Less than a month before the election, suddenly four women claim Trump touched them inappropriately. The timing isn't suspicious or anything, though. And women never lie about such things.

G33KoftheUndead · 2016-10-13T04:36:29+00:00

Saw this coming since Friday.

Shubrook · 2016-10-13T11:49:07+00:00

False accusations are a big problem.

Trump can die in a fire.

I don't care if the accusations against him are real or not. This dude is such a douche that if we defend him, we delegitimize the entire men's rights movement.

I'm going to wait for someone worth defending.

anticapitalist · 2016-10-13T08:02:58+00:00

This isn't the same as accusations vs normal guys, mainly because he admitted groping women.

I don't consider it very relevant to men's human rights.

bosh-head · 2016-10-13T08:32:41+00:00

Defending Trump on this isn't a good look for this sub. He walked into women's locker rooms at beauty pageants, including Miss TEEN usa. On the tape he said he would just walk up to women and start kissing them, without asking for permission. And that's exactly what he's accused of doing in some cases.

aokusman · 2016-10-13T04:40:32+00:00

CNN is holding marathon interviews on this topic and nothing on emails showing Hillary in bad light. The media is dead. Thank God for social media, for now at least.

NUMBERS2357 · 2016-10-13T05:04:03+00:00

Trump was caught on tape bragging about doing this sort of thing!

Fuzzpot · 2016-10-13T06:15:48+00:00

Trump boasted, in private, about doing this exact thing. So color me unsurprised. The timing's probably intentional, but can't blame Hillary (or these women) for leveraging their position for best effect.

Jimmymagill · 2016-10-13T12:51:54+00:00

I'm inclined to believe them.

I'm an anti feminist through and through, but Trump is the kind of guy we don't have to be associated with when the feminists harass us...

I'm concerned that there are so many people here who can't see Trump as the worst mistake the US could ever make.

deathdragon5858 · 2016-10-13T04:59:03+00:00

How dare you? If a women says they were violated, you must believe them. Innocent until proven guilty does not stand for that. That's just patriarchy women bashing to imply otherwise.

Odonata_Anisoptera · 2016-10-13T11:22:39+00:00

I hate Trump. But he's 100% innocent until proven guilty. That's our law. We don't get to crucify him because we have suspicions that happen to support personal feelings.

Edit: I should note that I disagree with OP's decision to suggest that there's a conspiracy against Trump and that these women are coming forward and lying specifically to burn him.

Just as Trump is innocent until proven otherwise, so are the women making the accusations. They are innocent of conspiracy until proven guilty.

boshin-goshin · 2016-10-13T11:49:00+00:00

This is entirely predictable and a sad commentary on what moves the uninformed public.

There are any number of substantive reasons to oppose and dread a Trump presidency. I'm not voting for him and I hope he goes down in a rout in November.

But I haven't arrived at my position because of something as flimsy and suspect as random, unprovable allegations.

Honestly, same goes for Bill Clinton.

girlwriteswhat · 2016-10-13T13:11:07+00:00

Okay, I think what a lot of people are not paying attention to is that he said on the bus that when he sees a beautiful woman, he just starts kissing her, yada yada yada. Then he sees the beautiful woman waiting for them outside and is all, "oh, I'm gonna need some tictacs for all the kissing I'm gonna do to her..."

Then he gets off the bus, hugs her with permission, kisses her politely on the cheek, and that's that.

Anyone who believes that he wasn't engaging in empty, hyperbolic braggadocio on the bus given that he acted completely differently just moments later, is out of their minds. He said one thing (the way lots of guys do when alone together), and then did the opposite.

cld8 · 2016-10-13T06:18:00+00:00

I actually think these allegations have merit. In fact, Trump has essentially admitted to them.

When we advocate for men's rights, let's advocate for the rights of innocent men who are being falsely accused. Defending someone who is very likely guilty is not going to help us, and serves to discredit the entire movement.

wiseprogressivethink · 2016-10-13T04:28:46+00:00

If this tactic is allowed to work this time, then going forward any and all men who run for political office will be at risk of having their reputations and careers destroyed based on unprovable allegations of mere "touching" from years earlier, with those charges being leveled in the days right before the election in order to inflict maximum damage.

Get ready to live under a literal matriarchy, gentlemen.

i_poop_splinters · 2016-10-13T09:04:24+00:00

The timing doesn't matter. This isn't the first case of "woman who are ashamed to come forward dont until someone else does". They are just allegations, but still. Its something to consider

TheChaosMachine · 2016-10-13T12:47:03+00:00

Wait. So is MensRights now TheRedPill and protrump? If so, count me out.

Meistermalkav · 2016-10-13T11:33:10+00:00

...

Wasn't that precisely what they did to Assange?

He got uncomfortsable, suddenly, there were those women who said he touched them?

wasabean · 2016-10-13T12:43:08+00:00

Listen and believe, aka feminism is literally going to ruin this election and the world. Any man does anything that the media and wealthy don't like? Hire a woman to say that that person raped/touched them. It will ruin everyone. Trump has no chance against this... I hate to say it, but it's over.

ThePigmanAgain · 2016-10-13T09:00:03+00:00

Four? This morning it was only two. By election time it will be thousands. If Amerikans are stupid enough to swallow all this shit, the world is going to end up being run by a neo-conservative, neo-liberal psychopath, and you know what that means, don't you? Yes, it's another fine example of feminism and the plutocracy working together.

timo103 · 2016-10-13T09:42:05+00:00

But ignore all those women that claim Bill Clinton raped them or "touched them inappropriately."

They're lying about that.

LibertyIsNotFree · 2016-10-13T13:05:01+00:00

So one of the women has already been clearly debunked. First the report was a straight up plagiarism of a woman's actual assault. The story the women stole, that the arm rest was lifted up so he could 'grab her right in the pussy'

All the planes that flew in 1980 by commercial airlines... none of them have movable first class arm rests.

And finally, by 1980 Trump already owned his airliner caliber plane so he would've flown privately on his own jet when she claims this occured.

This is how despicable the DNC and the liberal media is. They steal a true victim's story to try to execute a hatchet job.

2016-10-13T13:20:12+00:00

There's actually video evidence of Bill Clinton sexually assaulting a woman. There's video evidence of Barack Obama sexually harassing his staff. It's almost like the media don't care at all about women who are abused and just use certain women to push a narrative for political power?

Hypersapien · 2016-10-13T13:24:35+00:00

Or, they came forward months ago, and the DNC/media has been holding them in reserve until now.

rctdbl · 2016-10-13T08:04:31+00:00

The fact that first class airplanes don't have moveable armchairs, Trump flies a private jet and they're all coming out now, as lifelong Hillary supporters, rather than when they were supposedly traumatized is completely ridiculous.

go_fuck_your_mother · 2016-10-13T12:33:36+00:00

Good. Trump should have never made those ludicrous accusations against Bill Clinton.

wiseprogressivethink · 2016-10-13T05:10:48+00:00

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iHeartCandicePatton · 2016-10-13T13:21:22+00:00

Where was this level of outrage when R. Kelly pissed on an underage girl? Or does that not count since he's a cool black rapper?

Mens-Advocate · 2016-10-13T13:33:30+00:00

Everyone is missing a major point. A man who never takes sexual initiative remains alone, without sex and without relationships. Further, many women turned on by a man are actually turned off if he asks first:
http://thoughtcatalog.com/anonymous/2014/08/i-hate-it-when-men-ask-if-they-can-kiss-me-and-i-blame-feminism/

Thus, there is an argument that a man kissing a strange woman is no sin and should not be considered assault, providing he accepts being pushed away. In our grandmothers' times, if a man got too "fresh", the woman would either pull him closer if interested, or if not then push him away, sometimes with a slap. And that would be the end of it, providing the fellow respected the rejection.

I also suspect Bill Clinton, Martin Luther King, John F Kennedy, Moshe Dayan, and possibly even Dwight Eisenhower behaved similarly or "worse". If feminist puritanism has us eliminate all libidinous men from leadership, we'll all suffer.

Finally, at least one of the women "accusing" him became a lover. If a physical propositon were so horrible and traumatic, the "victim" would never become a lover.

That even one woman would then become his lover, and that the feminist left excuses Bill Clinton for doing similar things, proves that a male initiating aggressively is "normal" courting behaviour (however crude), providing a no or other objection is accepted and neither over-ridden by force nor (as in the case of Bill/Hillary) used to demean or attack the woman.

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