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Because nothing says "dignified" like exchanging insults with year 10 boys.
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I live not far from this college. We once had a woman's rights ambassador come in to run a workshop with some of the boys in my year level (yr9) of which I was included.
she would ask questions to us like:
And to her utter amazement, not a single person raised their hand. It goes to show, many preconceptions that feminists have about men simply arn't true. There is a lot of misinformation out there.
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I guess it would be wrong if your intent of breaking up was to intentionally hurt the other person inorder to recieve sex. So basically black mail.
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If you're making someone have sex with you and they don't want to its a form of manipulative behaviour. It may not sound like much but its how domestic violence begins.
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No you don't. Again, it depends whether your specific intention is to harm the other by leaving the relationship.
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Not really. You can generally tell by the content and manner of private conversations between the two individuals.
Simply choosing have sex with someone knowing that they feel uncomfortable about it is unethical.
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Because if you said:
In this situation you have three options:
Leave the relationship. You don't get sex. She gets hurt.
Have sex with her anyway. You get sex. She gets hurt.
Stay in the relationship and don't have sex. You get a little annoyed and she is happy.
This is definitly not an easy dilemma. But my personal moral compass would point me the 3rd option. If I really love someone, am I willing to make them feel pressured into doing something they don't feel comfortable doing? Or am I going to put my sexual desires aside? I pick the latter?
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I just think its unethical to have sex with someone if they are uncomfortable about it. If you are more willing to leave a relationship than recieve sex, it indicates that you don't have strong romantic connection with that person. This becomes decieteful if your only reason for being in the relationship is to recieve sex from your partner.
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I think you are exagerating her position. As I said before, it is abusive if the person wanting to have sex is threating to leave as a means of causing harm to get sex.
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Ok well thats what I mean't when I said it. Its not exactly a difficult thing to misunderstand.
Technically humans have evolved patriarchy because males who keep control over their partners (i.e. preventing them from reproducing with other males) have a higher chance of producing more offspring. That is why in nearly all cultures across the globe males are dominant over woman. Does that mean we can't change our behaviour? Not at all.
I think its interesting that simply because I didn't explicitly say "threatening to leave with intent to cause harm..." you therefore assume that the woman's rights activist that asked the question didn't mean that, even though its sort of implied in the question.
It would be like if she said:
And then you say:
The point is, you are applying your own preconcieved notions of what feminists actually believe and stand for, and applying that onto your interpretation of what feminists are actually saying. Obviously a majority of feminists believe that exiting a relationship because you are not sexual satisfied is fairly ethical; obviously they believe pressuring someone into provided sex is wrong.
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