Talk is cheap.

PricklyGoober · 2023-08-19T14:40:24+00:00

Can’t wait for the “by other men” and “patriarchy hurts men too”, to dismiss these issues.

Lolocraft1 · 2023-08-19T15:38:12+00:00

I got banned from Feminism for this. I didn’t even talked about male issues, I simply said there are males issues to be adressed. And I was banned because "comment must have a feminist view"

So not only are they admitting they want to create the perfect echo-chamber and ban anyone who dare disagree, they also admitted feminism isn’t for men

Strangely, when I talk about MRM, feminist always tell me "but feminism is already for men! Men’s Rights is hateful and useless!"

Pure hypocrites

aslutforhumans · 2023-08-19T14:38:31+00:00

This actually made me cry. I've never seen this stuff in media. Thank you friend.

I'm too far gone now and resigned to my fate of suicide or military service in lieu of it. But I hope you can help young boys and men who are struggling before they get to the crossroads.

KrazyJazz · 2023-08-19T14:40:58+00:00

Of course "Men Matter Too". Who's gonna drive the trucks otherwise? Or pick-up garbages? Or maintain all the infrastructures? Or serve and protect? Someone has to do it if the now super-educated-but-oppressed want to enjoy their lazy girl jobs.

Unadulterated-Idiocy · 2023-08-19T15:02:06+00:00

Can someone explain "gamma bias"? This is a term I've never come across.

SleeplessAndAnxious · 2023-08-19T17:14:17+00:00

Really wish women realised how prevalent injuries and deaths are in blue collar work. I've had a broken ankle, possible fractured toe and numerous muscle strains and injuries in my line of work and seen plenty of other guys get injured too. There's always some news about workplace deaths in the OHS newsletter I get every few months.

No_Reaction_2168 · 2023-08-19T18:11:37+00:00

That's what I keep saying. Men's rights are more important to me than women's rights right now because men's rights are not even a mainstream talking point while everybody and their mothers (literally) talks about women's rights casually.

woodedoo · 2023-08-19T16:37:52+00:00

Something I NEVER see talked about is that the largest demographic of opioid overdoses are young-middle aged men doing contract work in trades. I’m in Canada where the opioid epidemic is a massive public health crisis (~20 deaths/day!).

We talk about “harm reduction” and naloxone training constantly yet no one wants to address the root cause: men in trades who work as contractors have no benefits, no PTO, no sick leave, no long-term disability, no job security, etc. so when they inevitably get injured on the job they have to find a way to keep working through the pain and the only option is opioid painkillers

TheTinMenBlog · 2023-08-19T14:07:47+00:00

If there’s one thing I’ve learnt about activism, it’s that talk is cheap.

“Oh we care about men!”, “feminism helps men too!”, “men’s issues matter to us!”

Such claims often come through the voice of faux compassion, and are (at best) followed my a handful of niceties said about men, urges for them to cry more, and perhaps a photo of Harry Styles in a dress.

I am not saying such things are unwelcome, but they are just a tiny corner of the problems that men and boys are experiencing – and such efforts are… well… “the bare minimum.”

So I ask, if such social justice pages really do care about men, and if feminism is for men too, then why do they never talk about what is happening to them?

Beyond said dress wearing and non-crying…

Where is the talk of family courts, or unequal parental leave?

What happened to the outrage, for the 49% of domestic violence victims who are not women?

Where are the cries for change to help our boys; who are now behind girls at every stage of education, and have been for decades?

Stop telling me you ‘care about men and boys too’, and start *showing* me.

Or if not, then hand back the self anointed mantle of ‘equality’, because equality is not just ‘equality for women’, but ‘equality for everyone’… yes, that includes men and boys.

(At least stop pretending that ‘mens issues don’t exist’.)

So who really does care about men and boys?

Who is ‘doing the work’?

Who will dare plunge their hands into the mud of men’s advocacy?

Who really cares, and who’s just pretending?

~

Images by Midas Hofstra, Gradienta, Mick Haupt, Matthias Redding, and Black Kiwi Hug.

CDC Domestic abuse stats

Sexual Offences Act

Boys in education

DrunKeMergingWhetnun · 2023-08-20T00:15:20+00:00

Miss the obvious free center of that bingo card: "misandry doesn't exist"

2023-08-19T14:37:04+00:00

Another good post!

2023-08-19T16:51:00+00:00

Men are important.

zarek1729 · 2023-08-19T16:19:11+00:00

On a separate note, in the bingo, the only things I couldn't cross out were police brutality and gamma bias. What is gamma bias? And I know and discuss about police brutality but never in the context of men's rights, can somebody explain that context?

Shadowdragon409 · 2023-08-19T17:00:09+00:00

This is beautiful.

porcelainfog · 2023-08-19T15:07:59+00:00

Thank you for making these. I always stop to read every page.

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2023-08-20T03:28:21+00:00

Add a square about male victims of rape/sexual assault.

jaypb182 · 2023-08-20T06:58:00+00:00

I don't see why feminism, an inherently misandrist ideology, should be the one advocating for men. Feminists don't five a fuck, and in fact, hate men? No shit? It's a feature.

peasey360 · 2023-08-19T18:26:37+00:00

The 5th one should be the first one. Holy fuck that hits

Tanman55555 · 2023-08-19T15:36:02+00:00

Pretty solid post Graphic designing was well done the words used overall pretty solid Message was straightforward Also whats a bigger issue than these supposedly female issues is the human trafficking That shit is wild We all need to talk more about that specifically

Due_Regular3329 · 2023-08-20T04:14:02+00:00

It’s about the only thing that’s cheap these days.

CrowMagpie · 2023-08-20T08:44:37+00:00

A bit of feedback: On slide 7, I couldn't read the word 'still' (bad eyes) and assumed it said 'not' and thought you were contradicting your usual points.

Otherwise, great points! :D

Chemical_Weight_4716 · 2023-08-19T22:27:21+00:00

As a woman, I definetly can say Ive talked about all of these issues except male disposability. I never really thought of it because I dont really view any life as disposable so its a super foriegn way for me to think.

I will say this, when I speak about these issues the men I speak with have little to nothing to say in response.

Im glad you posted this because in my opinion these are valid af but nobody talks about it. Men dont talk about it, nobody does.

Nothing can change without being a common topic where the problem solving stage has a chance to emerge.

Tedee16 · 2023-08-19T17:33:03+00:00

If boys can't wear dresses, then, girls should stop wearing trousers/pants.
STOP WITH THE DOUBLE STANDARDS.

Mobile_Lumpy · 2023-08-22T22:10:19+00:00

Shit I got bingo B4 the game even started.

Tedee16 · 2023-08-19T17:34:38+00:00

Why did I get downvoted when I commented about Alimony some days ago?

Cheetahfan123 · 2023-08-19T15:45:47+00:00

Most men don’t even really care

your_local_loser564 · 2023-08-19T14:44:14+00:00

I would try and stay away from the word "woke" as it generally has no meaning, in the least, besides the vague umbrella term of social progression that can still be interpreted. I love these posts but the word woke can sometimes devalue a statement and is generally reserved for people who have no idea what they're talking about and cannot give specifics and are mad for being mad

Tedee16 · 2023-08-19T17:38:55+00:00

Alcohol is a sin and leads to Hell Fire (lava).
Suicide is a sin and leads to Hell Fire (lava).
Please, repent before it is too late.

DrewYetti · 2023-09-30T19:37:21+00:00

This is one of the main reasons on why I will never call myself a feminist and will never believe the words that comes out of feminists mouths whenever they say feminism is about “equality” or how women are “oppressed” and men are “privileged” because they are so full of sh*t.

Title	Talk is cheap.
Author	TheTinMenBlog
Upvotes	1221
Comments	189
Date	August 19, 2023 2:07 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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