A promiscuous past affecting a woman's otherwise happy relationship negatively. Have you seen it?

CisWhiteMaelstrom · 2015-08-03T14:36:10+00:00

I've seen cases where it's hunky dory from the woman's perspective but that man's only in the relationship because he's a beta without options, and then a slutty past ruins it. I've never seen a case where a man who could have his choice of women winds up with a lying slut and then finds out and has it ruin things. You've gotta see this from the beta's point of view. He's barely had any action, he doesn't know why he's so unpopular with women, he really only knows that he loves them deeply, and he kind of just has to take what he can get. He'll enjoy the relationship but he knows something's not right.

Hearing that it's not even special for her is just a lethal blow. He's waited 30 years for this and he's just her 47th dick. If he left, she'd find her 48th dick. All this build up, this specialness, and everything he's had didn't match reality but it's still special to him because he's unsuccessful. He could deal with the relationship being not quite what was advertised so long as they're going through it together, but now he just sees that he's with some whore and he's like a little kid. It's pathetic, he knows it, and he doesn't want to be a part of it.

RichardPalma · 2015-08-03T18:56:43+00:00

I went through a phase in last 2013 and early 2014 where I went into a bit of a manslut mode. I was having 3 new partners a week. It was a combination of free time, and learning more about how to open to women (not from PUA, just on my own, I looked at PUA stuff after and found a lot to be spot on and other stuff to be whatever).

I don't disagree with TRP that there is a "cock carosel" but not all women are riding it (seemed more like 10% by my estimate), and there are guys also doing the same thing. I just don't understand the focus on it in TRP, but this is not a comment about that.

What I found was this: it was a lot like being suddenly given access to a human buffet. At first you stuff you plate with everything because you want to try it all. But after some time, you start to know what tastes good, and you only put like 2 or 3 things on your plate, with maybe a dollup of another thing here or there. Truthfully, finding a willing sex partner is not hard at all, but finding one that is good in bed, is compatible with my kinks, is charming and nice to be with when not having sex (esp post sex cuddling), doesn't have a problem with me being married and respects my wife's role in my life, and a bunch of other things is not all that easy. So, I narrowed in on a few or the best people (for me) and spent my time with them because that was what was best for me. All of those women are gone now (still text them now and then, but no romance) and I have two others I'm seeing regularily, but the idea is the same: while it was a little fun to be a slut, it was ultimately empty and not really what I wanted.

babydocnorman · 2015-08-03T16:01:45+00:00

Happens all of the time. Women won't generally reveal their true N count to a guy they see as boyfriend material, so there's an element of deception in the relationship if she lies about her N count or an elephant in the room if they choose not to discuss it.

The truth will come out. It's hard to hide a promiscusous past and a woman who is used to getting validation by having sex with multiple men will have a hard time settling down and being consistently attracted to one guy so the relationship will be seriously tested at some point.

mcconnelldemasi · 2015-08-03T21:53:26+00:00

I have a promiscuous friend who just got married. Her N is in the 20's. She treats her husband like a king. She sends him care packages full of really romantic letters and homemade cookies every time he deploys. Fell for him very hard and really fast. She relocated to his city after only knowing him for a month.

She is obese and slept around to feel attractive. She got really hurt by an ex boyfriend who dumped her for gaining 20 pounds in their relationship. She gained more weight after that because she started partying.

The husband was a socially awkward intelligent type. His humor came out when he started dating her. His friends, coworkers and family, all saw a huge difference in his confidence. He seriously did a 180 with her. He even been getting hit on by other women due to his increased charisma.

He also use to live in filth. Couldn't do his dishes if his life depended on it. He decided to start cleaning up after himself when she came around. Started dressing better too.

She is the one out of a hundred sluts that found her prince charming to save her. They are the only couple that I know that made each other a better person.

All other past sluts I know is on the future divorce train.

PemBayliss · 2015-08-03T14:45:41+00:00

Yes. I have seen this A LOT.

I know BPers never believe this. I know Bloops always say that if a slut is unhappy in her marriage, it's the man's fault - it's because he lost attraction, it's because of HIM HIM HIM. It could never ever ever be HER fault. It could never ever be the fact that she's a slut and cannot bond or will not bond and keeps him at arm's length. It could never ever be the fact that she is subconsciously comparing her husband to the objectively more attractive men she fucked as a younger, single woman. Nah, couldn't be that. No way.

/sarc

RojoEscarlata · 2015-08-03T14:42:11+00:00

The problem with promiscuity with women is that there is a relation with how many men sleeps a women and how likely (or less likely) she is able to pair bond with someone.

http://i.imgur.com/kjOqKwh.jpg

It doesn't matter how a whore rationalizes her own past (i did it for sex, I was hurt, I was finding myself) the end result is always the same, an used up empty shell of a "woman"

PemBayliss · 2015-08-03T15:14:12+00:00

•Many former sluts have told me that they "just like sex" and that it was the only reason they slept around. That would be cool if it was true. But years later they often talk about how bad it felt that men only wanted to sleep with them. I respect women who only sleep around because they love sex, but it almost always turns out that they did it for validation. This might even affect the relationship with her new boyfriend (high-value beta with some alpha traits) positively. But it often makes them jaded and bitter and their dating life harder if they haven't found a boyfriend yet.

This is the most common scenario, I think, even if women don't talk about it in precisely those terms. Women who fit into this category (which I think covers a lot, if not most, of AFBB former carouselers) don't say "I did it for validation" or use the word "validation". They'll say things like this:

"I just wanted to be a wife and a mother"

--"I was looking for love in all the wrong places" (cliché, I know, but I've actually heard this)

--"I just wanted to find a man who loved me"

I think they felt that deep down; but at a deep level as well, these women really got off on the validation of getting the sexual attention of very attractive men. They enjoyed it a lot for a long time; until the hard, visceral pull of baby rabies made them start looking for a man to actually stick around.

There's a couple of things going on there.

First is that a lot of these women are deeply disappointed at the caliber of men they can draw for long term commitment. For the first time they're getting a clear picture of their actual value as women and as human beings, and they don't like it.

Second, they aren't very good at actually having a relationship with a man. They're used to the relationships ending rather soon. They are accustomed to being able to escape and end the relationships once things get difficult or weird. They don't know conflict resolution, or how to communicate what they want or need. They don't know how to move past shit and let it go. They've never developed those skills because they've never had to.

exit_sandman · 2015-08-04T08:58:32+00:00

I didn't have extensive exchanges with women about how their past or present promiscuity affected their relationships, but what I do see is that in the cases where I got updates, their relationships mostly seemed to be short-lived if they had any at all. So the least I can say is that promiscuity correlates with relationship failure.

0473332002285 · 2015-08-04T19:34:00+00:00

Speaking from the male perspective, I can say that men are also suseptible to this issue of 'settling'. I notice a lot of dudes who were at one time Alpha in high school or college no longer are able to hold down relationships once they can no longer pull the same quality of woman anymore. They basically eschew commitment because none of their current partners look as 'hot' as what they had in the past, so they hold out hope that maybe the next one will be as good.

Women do this too of course, and yes all of your points have been observed by myself.

Scarlett_Begonias · 2015-08-03T18:29:53+00:00

Well I'm a 25 year old woman, quite a high n-count I'd say, so I may be qualified to share my experience.... I'm not married but I'm in a committed relationship (~3 years) and we have a kid. If either of us were inclined towards marriage we would probably have done it by now. Anyways I'll try to address some of your questions. I have some specific regrets about certain people I slept with, but I don't regret my number, and my number would be high even without those.

They talk about how her current boyfriend is doing well in bed, but can't live up to one of their former fuckbuddies. Literally saying "I am spoiled". They don't ditch him, but feel unsatisfied. Even though he is "doing well" according to them.

In my case my SO is definitely the best partner I have had. Maybe tied with the only other guy I've dated for over a year, but I'd have to fuck them both in a short span of time to really decide. In my experience in general, the "love connection" really seals the deal in bed. Sex with feelings, especially mutual feelings, is more satisfying than without. I should add though that a big dick, sex appeal, and at least slight interest in my kinks of choice are very important for a guy to have if I'm going to start a relationship with him.

They have to avoid certain places/bars/parties, because they might run into their former fuckbuddies and they don't want to have an "awkward situation". Sucks to be restricted like this.

Never been an issue for me really. Though I am not from the area where I live now, and only have a few former flings/boyfriends in the area. My boyfriend does have mutual friends with an ex of mine, and he tries to avoid seeing him, but they had history and beef before I knew either of them. BF never wants to go out anyways and is generally misanthropic, plus we have a small child and we have neither time nor money for partying.

They don't avoid certain places/bars/parties and do meet a former fuckbuddy. The situation really is awkward. Former fuckbuddy brags about fucking her. Might even say something like "I wouldn't fuck her anymore because she gained a lot of weight."

I hope that none of my past hookups would be rude or stupid enough to do something like that... That's just silly.

Being actually rejected for her n-count. Blue pill is correct that she should just move on if the guy is concerned about her former promiscuity. The problem is that it doesn't seem to happen much in reallife because "just move on" is not something many people can easily do. Most of the time I see both wanting to "work it out".

This has never happened to me. And I tend to be quite open about my past and about my mostly non-monogamous nature. Really though my lifestyle is so different than most guys who would give a shit that it's not surprising I never got to that point with one of them.

The woman overestimating her attractiveness because hot guys had ONS and fuckbuddy relationships with her. She has filed it away under "he just didn't want to commit" and thinks "I slept with a hot guy, that means I am hot, too". She feels like she has settled, but feels good about it at first. "I am not shallow". But the relationship dynamics that comes with her feeling like she has settled will destroy the relationship sooner or later. I have seen that countless of times.

I'm fine with how I look but I don't think being slutty has inflated my ego at all... I have health problems that have resulted in me being underweight and having increasingly bad teeth, but looks are just not that important to me. In 40 years even the hot girls my age will be old and wrinkly, and those who spent all their effort trying to look good will have some re-prioritizing to do. But regardless, in the here and now, my SO and I are pretty much on par looks wise and we are quite compatible both physical and emotionally. I don't feel that I've settled at all. In fact having dated a lot of other men, I feel very lucky to have found him.

"He is not concerned with my n-count". Yes, he is. You just don't see it.

He doesn't like it but it's not a huge issue. We've both been very open about our experiences and our feelings in this regard. (FWIW his count is not as high as mine but still above average). He gets a teeny bit jealous sometimes, and acknowledges that his concerns mostly come from my past, but nothing compared to many men I've seen and been with. He apologizes for small jealous comments that I don't even notice, and he does occasionally think that men in public are trying to hit on me, but he's never had a reason to suspect me and he doesn't cause scenes or anything like that. Both of us tend to be honest to the point of brutality, so I know this is his biggest issue in our relationship, and I also know he doesn't consider it very significant. You can't always leave the past in the past (as he knows since he has another kid from a previous relationship) but we are both content to take each other as we are. We fell head over heels in love with each other like this and neither of us wants the other to change.

Many former sluts have told me that they "just like sex" and that it was the only reason they slept around. That would be cool if it was true. But years later they often talk about how bad it felt that men only wanted to sleep with them. I respect women who only sleep around because they love sex, but it almost always turns out that they did it for validation. This might even affect the relationship with her new boyfriend (high-value beta with some alpha traits) positively. But it often makes them jaded and bitter and their dating life harder if they haven't found a boyfriend yet. So if they finally have a relationship, the beginning stages are much less fun and this might affect the relationship later on.

I dunno about this one... Some of my sluttiness was just liking sex for sure. In some ways though I slept with a lot of my guy friends just to make them happy. I'm kind of a "giver." As I get older it's easier to try to please myself first and not be a doormat, but I still have a tendency to want to do people favors and have a hard time saying no. Before I had a kid and a lot of financial responsibility, I was the one who would lend anyone money, get up in the middle of the night to pick someone up, help you move when no one else showed, bring enough booze/drugs to share with the party, etc. It makes me happy when other people are happy. You could call this searching for validation I suppose but I see it in a better light than that.

Another factor was also rebellion against anyone's expectations for me. Just rebelling by being sex-positive, by initiating contact with guys and therefore in my mind keeping control, would at least make me "different." I did plenty of things in my late teens just to be different that didn't turn out as well as fucking a lot. In some ways I am glad though, because I wouldn't want to play the typical female role in courtship and relationships. I don't want to be hunted, I'd rather be the hunter. I don't want the guy to buy me drinks and take care of me - I want to take care of myself. (In past relationships I got a charge from taking care of him financially, but that actually gets old super quick.)

All that said, I have no idea what other women's experiences are like. From my conversations with female friends, coworkers and family members, I've noticed that my attitudes and lifestyle are atypical. I'm a sort of nerdy tomboy, I don't wear make-up or girly clothes, don't go shopping for anything but food, and my taste in TV, movies, and books is more like that of an old man than a young woman. My family and I are basically hippies (vegetarian-ish homeschoolers who smoke weed, have a bunch of guns, and distrust the establishment in general) and I was raised in a rather different environment than your average working class white kid. So I'm guessing life would be different if I came at it from a "normal" point of view.

buttlollipop · 2015-08-03T20:50:52+00:00

I haven't seen any of those things, honestly, but I have seen the reverse. A girl I was friends with had a one-month sex affair while dating her serious boyfriend because she was a virgin when she met him, and she felt she would be "missing out" if she married him before seeing what else was out there.

On the flip side, I know a girl who had sex with quite a few guys in college and is now in a great, very sexual long-term relationship. The guy she's with now isn't any less attractive than the guys she slept with in college, and she doesn't need to worry about "running into them" because she now lives in an entirely different part of the country. She also wasn't promiscuous on purpose- she wanted relationships, but often guys only wanted to stay at "FWB" level. I think he may have been with a similar amount of people, but she hasn't really gone to great extents to hide anything from him.

As for me, I'd probably be promiscuous by some TRP'ers standards (my partner count is lower than anyone else I know, but a lot of you guys think anything over 2 is high, so...) and I'm happily married, having great sex every day, with a man who is way more masculine and better looking than anyone I had been with before him. In fact if I could just completely erase all memories of being with anyone before him I would.

ETA to say my husband knows my number, probably wishes it were 1 or 2 or something, but I think he got over it back when we were dating. His number is 4x mine, so it's not like it makes him feel inadequate.

Of course, these are just a few isolated examples from my personal experience, so I can't purport to say "Well, none of this is true." It may be true, just nothing I've personally seen. That said, if my personal examples are pointless (which they very well may be) nobody else's anecdata gets to matter either unless they're a sociologist reporting on their personal experience running a grand scale study.

PemBayliss · 2015-08-03T14:57:19+00:00

What I have seen most often is the situation where a former slut (N>15 or so) gets married. She's vaguely dissatisfied with her marriage. It's just humdrum, ordinary. She can't put her finger on what's bothering her; she's just not happy. Most of them stay in their lackluster marriages mostly because of finances--they have kids and a divorce would ruin them both financially. A few of them divorce.

What's going on there is that hubby is a good man. She's just not all that sexually attracted to him. Oh, she is attracted enough to tolerate sex with him; and sex is OK, nothing special. But he doesn't really rev her up like Harley McBadboy and Biker McTattoo and Fuckbuddy Rockbanddrummer did. She misses the exciting, animal passion sex she had with them, that Beta Goodman just doesn't give her.

She has everything else; she just doesn't have the hot sex. She might get some hot passionate sex if Beta did what he wanted in bed instead of having vanilla formulaic sex of "suck tits, eat her out twice, get on top, missionary, cum after 10 minutes of long slow sweet soft "lovemaking", then thank her afterwards for doing him the 'favor' of having sex with him".

grendalor · 2015-08-03T15:02:39+00:00

Yes, I've seen it, but it isn't common that a woman in this situation will connect the dots that way. Every other possible reason is trotted out for her current malaise than the elephant that is on the table.

ECoast_Man · 2015-08-04T02:27:16+00:00

A ton of times.

A classic one for me as well is that former sluts tend to not have friends. I mean, long term friends that you've been friends since high school. This is because they've fucked up the friendship somehow, literally, by fucking someone's boyfriend, friend, brother, love interest, whatever. Or their sluttery caused the other women to slit shame them or caused herself to be surrounded by drama.

If I meet a girl and she's only known her 'besties' for the last 2 to 3 years and she's in her mid to late twenties? Slut.

susandeath · 2015-08-03T15:34:40+00:00

Well I can speak from my own experience. My current Bf knows how many people I have slept with 15 including him. He knew that before we had sex so I am gonna presume that it isn't an issue for him. If it is I can only know if he says so.

We have a good relationship, we do things to make sure our sex life stays good and spicy. We check in from time to time to make sure we are getting what we want out of it.

I have no issue going anywhere whether I may or not meet an old fuckbuddy of mine or not.

I don't think I am anything special lookswise.

I haven't met anyone who had a problem with my number, but if they did I'd move on.

The beginning stages of mine and my BF's sex life was FANTASTIC! I had fun having casual sex.

EDIT: I'm happy, my BF says he's happy.

GuitarsAreGettingOld · 2015-08-03T21:22:12+00:00

No. I've experimented with casual sex in the past and found it to be very unsatisfying. But I'm certainly not walking around full of regret, guilt or shame about it. I've lived and I've learned.

I could even argue that it has had a positive affect on my relationships because I have something lesser to compare relationship sex to. Sex with someone who I love and am emotionally invested in is a far better, richer, and more pleasurable experience in every single way (at least for me). I can't imagine any scenario in which I would be tempted to engage in casual sex again.

I've never been rejected for my sexual history. My fiancé has been aware of my past since our early stages of courtship and it has never been an issue. However, he was very promiscuous himself so that could be a contributing factor. He is very good looking and popular with women so he's certainly not just settling for me because he doesn't have any other options.

I've no concerns about running into a man I've slept with and him bragging about it. I suppose that could be awkward or embarrassing, but it's not the sort of thing I'd let dictate how (or where) I live my life. Besides, I can't imagine anyone I've slept with behaving in such a crude, juvenile fashion.

Anarchkitty · 2015-08-04T00:23:40+00:00

Huh. Redpiller asks the question, and of the top ten replies, six are from Redpillers, and four are from women of unidentified pill status (WUPS).

Of those, 100% of the Redpillers agree that it happens all the time but 0% provide any specific examples. 100% of the WUPS say that for them it isn't a problem and describe their own experiences with this.

I don't know if this is really meaningful from a statistical standpoint, but it is interesting.

belletaco · 2015-08-03T15:33:33+00:00

This sub is basically a red pill echo chamber at this point so im not sure why im responding but, my best friend was a big ol slut up until about a year ago, she met a guy at a bar and they've been together ever since. He has a biiiiit of an anger issue that I find off putting but other than that she's completely in love and borderline obsessed. I guess as per usual, it depends on the person/relationship.

camyland · 2015-08-04T13:22:39+00:00

I would like to see one woman who thinks a one night stand will turn into the love of her life. Red pill obviously thinks we're retarded brain dead lying sluts.

My boyfriend is well aware of my n count and we talk about everything. He accepts me and I him. Period.

Play this pill game and the pill game will play you. Desire a healthy equal relationship and hopefully you'll be as lucky as we are.

krunka · 2015-08-03T17:48:36+00:00

My personal experience is that a woman's partner count is directly related to how unstable they are. ie; the higher the count, the more likely they are to do things like lie, gaslight, neglect responsibilities, have no foresight/planning abilities, can't empathize with people, have depression, suicidal tendencies. Can't say though that the instability is due to the partner count, or the partner count is due to the instability.

iliketurtlesdurr · 2015-08-04T00:29:23+00:00

I think the whole "she overestimates her value because she thinks fucking a hot guy means she's hot" is one of the main things.

If I was a girl, my girl self would be out of my guy self's "league" when we are in our 20s and early 30s. Then in late 30s and onwards, my guy self is out of the league of my girl self. The net result is, though we are the same on average, there is never a point in time when we would date each other. That is kind of depressing to think about. But that is the dynamics of hookup culture.

am_thro_way · 2015-08-04T01:33:13+00:00

Just gonna speak for myself here as I don't know enough about other people's sexual history to comment on any trends.

Anyhow I'm not sure if I qualify as a slut because I've had casual sex but only with one guy. Still, my experience is similar to /u/Deny_Ignorance, in that the casual sex was very lackluster compared to relationship sex, and it's definitely done away with any fears of missing out.

I don't think I'd go out of my way to avoid my former fuckbuddy. It would be somewhat awkward to run into him, but I assume we'd probably just ignore each other or just say hi in passing. Though if he busted out this line

"I wouldn't fuck her anymore because she gained a lot of weight."

I would lol forever since he's married now and his wife is twice my size.

re: settling, I definitely don't feel like I've settled. I mean, it's hard to rank people on an objective scale but I feel like my boyfriend is just better for me in absolutely every way.

"He is not concerned with my n-count". Yes, he is.

Hard to say. We've never actually had a discussion about our sexual pasts, but I'm pretty sure he guessed that I wasn't a virgin when we first had sex. He mentioned something about expecting me to be more innocent. Didn't seem to bother him too much, as I didn't notice any change in his behaviour or attitude towards me afterwards.

Many former sluts have told me that they "just like sex" and that it was the only reason they slept around.

Well I actually do like sex. Just not casual sex, as I found out the hard way.

MrsPound111 · 2015-08-04T05:59:44+00:00

Never experienced this. I've always had successful relationships despite a triple count and my profession as a sex worker. My husband and I are doing great and love each other very much.

crestind · 2015-08-03T20:04:40+00:00

Maybe birds of a feather flock together.

sibeliushelp · 2015-08-04T03:07:54+00:00

wombatinaburrow · 2015-08-04T10:14:04+00:00

Low count older (pushing 40) chick here. I have several friends who played the field when they were younger. A few have had regretful sexual encounters. But then, we've all had regrets. Shagging a dickhead is just one bad experience; kind of like getting a bad haircut, crying in front of your boss or hitting your thumb with the hammer: it hurts for a bit, you learn, and you get on with your life.

A new lover who isn't as skillful as your ex? Teach him what you like.

Yes, bumping into an ex lover while out clubbing is awkward. But so is bumping into your boss, your mum or a drunken friend of a friend who wants to cry on you.

I have not known anyone who has rejected someone for their notch count alone. For being a flake; a heavy drinker; too much of a party animal; too high maintenance; too much hard work; poor hygiene or just irritating, sure. But ex partners alone? Nope.

Some girls just want to have fun. Yes; some are playing at sex while looking for love. But others just enjoy having a root.

My most promiscuous girlfriends are the ones who have become the most settled and stable as adults; with husbands who don't object the her knowing some extra techniques, whilst all of the "high school sweethearts" I know have fallen apart as they have mid life crisises.

Honestly mate, you are old enough to know all this.

SmurfESmurferson · 2015-08-04T12:16:58+00:00

I doubt anyone's still reading this, but I'll throw my hat into the ring. I have a high N count, and am successfully married to a man with a very low N count (just celebrated our sixth anniversary, though we've been in each other's lives in various ways since 1999).

Does it bug him? Not at all now, but yes and no in the beginning. It wasn't a surprise - he knew me from the time I was 19 and bartending (that's how we met), and I never tried to keep that part of my life a secret. He had some moments of jealousy, but eventually realized that while I have 0 regrets about that part of my life, I have no desire to repeat it.

I should probably note here that I lost my virginity at 15 to my HS LTR. Only had sex with two people (both multi-year bfs) before graduating and going to college. After the second relationship fizzled out, I spent a year and a half celibate before going "fuck it, I like sex" and jumping on what RP would refer to as the CC.

After graduating and going to work, I got consumed with my career and went celibate again for another year and some months. Afterwards, the now-husband (with whom I had stayed good friends during that time) and I had a couple false starts - false because we were living states away from each other and were both obsessed with the beginnings of our careers. It just wasn't the right time.

7 years ago, life got easier and I moved a state away to be with him. Never looked back.

Anyhow, flash forward to now. The N count thing is something we laugh about (we literally tell stories from each others pasts for and laugh over it). It's ancient history, and it stays that way.

When you've supported each other through deaths (specifically, his grandmother/last living relative, and the unexpected death of my mother a couple months ago), bought houses together, planned your life and you death (e.g., doing your wills) ... It puts the N count in perspective.

Anyhow, I don't avoid places, and we've never run into a past partner of mine. We do, however, live in the town that he spent the past 20-odd years in, and occasionally run into his exes. They're all married now, or (if they are single) have way more class than to make stupid comments. I've chatted with a few of them on different occasions, and they're lovely.

Our sex life is great. Like anything else in life, it ebbs and flows from once every couple weeks to every damn day (sometimes multiple times). But that's basically unavoidable with life when you're middle aged. We make it a point to have passionate, lust-fuelled sex whenever we have it.

Do I think I'm overly attractive? I'm quite pretty for 35, and I'm a marathon runner who keeps in shape. While not a model, I was on the cover of a national magazine in my mid-20s, so I think it's fair to say I'm conventionally attractive. In the immediate wake of my mother's death, I gained 10 pounds, but I'm actively working it off. And he never noticed - I mentioned my diet off hand one day, and he was shocked.

Just one last thing, and it's something I sometimes see an undercurrent of with some of these "N count" posts: we came to an agreement pretty quickly that our close friend group would be restricted to people who were "friends of our marriage" (this includes men and women, single, committed, and married, parents and nonparents. They just need to be supportive of both of us, even if they prefer one of us over the other). Minimizing our interaction with toxic people has had a huge halo effect on the rest of our lives.

wtknight · 2015-08-03T15:20:55+00:00

No, I've never seen it, but I've never been friends with or dated any promiscuous women. Promiscuous women are usually extroverted and I tend to associate with introverted women.

gaylooboil · 2015-08-05T08:33:10+00:00

In my own personal experience, promisicous women tend to get in relationships with promiscuous men, who ultimately don't give a fuck about their past. Only weirdo "Red Pill" type guys make a big stink over it. There is nothing more beta than seething and harboring contempt for your partner because of their past relationships of your partner.

Statistically, marrying the young virgin who has since grown up and realized what a pathetic loser you are is more dangerous for relationships than marrying any ol' promiscuous girl.

Title	A promiscuous past affecting a woman's otherwise happy relationship negatively. Have you seen it?
Author	GuitarsAreGettingOld
Upvotes	26
Comments	267
Date	August 3, 2015 2:09 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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