I really don't like deadbeat dads

HoxHound · 2018-02-14T08:29:34+00:00

Some men and women don't place any importance into being a proper parent. To them, having a kid is like eating a donut, you just do it and move on.

My elder brother is exactly like that, he has only seen his kid once, briefly, since the kid was born four years ago. I'm fucking livid about it while he's like, "Meh, whatever."

From what I've noticed, deadbeat parents believe in nature over nurture. They believe that their kids are going to turn out the same way no matter what. If the kid turns out to be a criminal in the future, it's because that's how the kid is, not because of the way the kid was raised.

Willow-girl · 2018-02-14T13:05:44+00:00

It has been my observation that men seldom retain much interest in their children once they're no longer sleeping with the children's mother.

Seems to be the way of the world! I wonder if we'd be better off if we acknowledged this and based our laws, etc., on this reality instead of handling things as we do now?

nemma88 · 2018-02-14T11:11:06+00:00

There's a couple of people you look at a go WTF.

In my circle one of the guys brother has kids with his ex wife. It's his ex wife because he's mid 40's and was going to give up touring with his D list band. He didn't. He now skips out on child support while out of the country 'touring' and doesn't declare earnings. I get not letting go of your dreams but if you decide to have kids with someone you need to grow the eff up.

reluctantly_red · 2018-02-14T10:22:51+00:00

Kids don't end your "life plans". Indeed they can be great motivators. My college GF got pregnant when I was 22. It was a real oh shit I have to get my life on track moment.

Also, kids can be lots of fun. My youngest daughter always wants to race -- its a blast chasing after her. You also have an excuse to go to superhero movies.

Salty-Bastard · 2018-02-14T10:54:47+00:00

Shitty parents raise fucked up kids and those kids raise fucked up kids. Your "friend" sounds selfish and immature who thinks having a kid is something on a checklist. New sneakers? check, new rims? check, bio a kid into the world? check, backpacking Europe? check...

Men and women should not have kids until they're ready to adult enough to give kids a fighting chance.

dicklord_airplane · 2018-02-14T16:22:26+00:00

i agree, but women who make stupid decisions about who they have children with are equally responsible for the absence of good fathers in their children's lives. having a child with a guy you're not married to is idiotic. having a child with a guy who's promiscuous, emotionally or physically absent, abusive, or violent is extremely idiotic.

why are all these women choosing to force children on to men who never expressed a desire to raise kids? it's just plain dysfunctional decision-making. women have all the power to choose whether or not a child is born. with power comes responsibility, and a shit ton of women are making irresponsible decisions in this regard.

Whisper · 2018-02-14T10:06:04+00:00

Responsibility and power go together.

A man who has no power to avoid parenthood isn't going to take responsibility.

Cry about it if you want. Ain't gonna change.

HoxHound · 2018-02-14T08:40:59+00:00

If some girl carries my kid to term without my consent, that's her problem.

SecSlab · 2018-02-14T14:06:07+00:00

That’s why financial abortion grossed me out so much. If I was a man, and I had a kid (even with a random sex partner) you better know that after the paternity test I would fight for joint custody and to be an active part of that kid’s life. I would want to support my kid, even if it cost a few hundred dollars per month just so my kid has some level of financial stability.

InformalCriticism · 2018-02-14T09:55:43+00:00

Typically, governments shut the men out and wage slave rape them so these guys have nothing but their dreams to fall back on. But, if it makes you feel better to shit on those men, by all means. It's not like they're not used to it.

MercedesBenzoAMG · 2018-02-14T10:44:53+00:00

What's there to debate here? This isn't your personal blog.

LifterofThings · 2018-02-14T18:51:15+00:00

I just don't like garbage parents. I see them on the Facebook groups that I participate in for moms all. the. time. Women begging strangers for formula for their newborn with pictures of their hair and nails and makeup done. That shit's not cheap.

Blue_spugne · 2018-02-18T15:26:16+00:00

I agree, it is a completely irresponsible and selfish. I think it says a lot about that persons character in a negative way, I do not want be around people like either. Deadbeat dads are weak people.

Eastuss · 2018-02-14T11:00:04+00:00

Maikowski2 · 2018-02-14T10:10:10+00:00

I have the same feeling for such men. One part is rational, a parents must be around for his kid, and another part my own shitty childhood. It wasn't terrible, just not good enough. Otherwise I doubt I would have had so much troubles when I matured.

jeffersonsexmouth · 2018-02-14T15:45:56+00:00

And?

When I read stuff like this, I think, "Give me what I want and I'll go away."

Il128 · 2018-02-14T19:39:44+00:00

I'll come across a guy who has a kid or two and living life without a care. Sees their kids once in a span of months. They started families... and talk about their plans to backpack across the U.S. or move to another state and start a "business." If I had a kid, it'd be the end of my life plans. Nothing else would matter. That kid is now my life. Which is why I don't have a kid. I am extremely rude to these "dads," to the point I socially ostracize them. I don't want kids. But I also don't want to be around men that aren't in their own kid's lives

The majority of "Deadbeat Dads" start off as great dads getting a divorce and by the time the x wife is done, he by court order can't see the kids or ironically enough the x wife ignoring a court ordered visitation, leads to him not seeing his children.

All the men I know who don't see their kids go through the five stages of grief and move on, a lot of times stopping child support payments because mentally they are no longer father's to the children and they just feel like a slave everytime they make that child support payment.

X drives him away from his children then she wonders why he's such a shitty dad...

dthlist · 2018-02-14T23:13:36+00:00

a bachelor divorcee dont kid yourself, you are a cuck. Are you or are you not paying alimony?

BearSaint · 2018-02-15T03:06:56+00:00

I'm supposed to care about your feelings for what reason?

Jammerly1 · 2018-02-14T09:58:27+00:00

Bless you, you’re doing the lord’s work.

These men need to be named and shamed.

Aaren_Augustine · 2018-02-14T08:45:17+00:00

But I also don't want to be around men that aren't in their own kid's lives

Make sure you call up their baby's mama and bitch her out for failing at being a good parent too; shitty chooser at very least. Bonus points if you know she was married to the dad and completely fucked up being married too...oh, well, maybe not that last part for you specifically

I mean, can't be too strong about your ostracizing as a divorcee with no kids, which seems to be the only element distinguishing you from the guys you ostracize.

Wait...are you bitchy to them because you are a chick?

darkmoon09 · 2018-02-14T08:53:13+00:00

No offense but you sound like a jealous hater. Of whay exactly? First of all what are these guys in your circle like? You say you don't want kids but why hate on guys who do have kids? Me personally i don't care for kids either and I don't care much wether someone i know if being an ideal parent or not. What are you judging them on? That these particular guys aren't fullfing the "dad" role that you believe they shoukd be fullfing? What about it?

Here's ba better way to look at it..who allows for this to happen? Women. They're the sexual gatekeepers. They're the ones who choose to get knocked up by these guys.

Butt in my circle of people, I'll come across a guy who has a kid or two and living life without a care. Sees their kids once in a span of months. They started families... and talk about their plans to backpack across the U.S. or move to another state and start a "business."

Thats the life of a guy DGAF hardmode I guess, he may or may not genuinely care about his kids but either way I think it only means people should be more responsible before knocking someone up or getting pregnant but of of course people aren't. Society is fucked on thay level. I don't see any point in getting worked up over it.

If I had a kid, it'd be the end of my life plans. Nothing else would matter. That kid is now my life. Which is why I don't have a kid. I am extremely rude to these "dads," to the point I socially ostracize them.

This is your downfall. Being that good beta who would fulfill his expected beta role to a T. As you can see, men who aren't anything like you are the ones banging bitches and having kids. What does that tell you? stop being that guy who supposedly makes an ideal dad/husband and be more like the kind of guy who bitches like to fuck and get knocked up by.

GayLubeOil · 2018-02-14T10:58:56+00:00

By not wanting elite alpha males to breed as many children as possible you are litteraly slowing down human evolution to promote your bizzaro egalitarian dream. Also this post I very disrespectful to military fathers. Which is why I think you should apologize.

DaphneDK42 · 2018-02-14T09:02:40+00:00

They started families... and talk about their plans to backpack across the U.S. or move to another state and start a "business." ... I don't want kids.

The reason those dudes have kids and you don't is probably that the other guys are more interesting that you. Girls like outgoing risk-taking dudes; girls don't like risk-adverse complacent guys like you. The women who had kids with those kind of men knew perfectly well what it was they went in to.

If I had a kid, it'd be the end of my life plans. Nothing else would matter. That kid is now my life. Which is why I don't have a kid.

Good thing too you don't have a kid. That sounds like a classic helicopter parent scenario. You'd suffocate that kid.

Ordinate1 · 2018-02-14T15:07:35+00:00

I really don't like non-parents who tell parents how to parent.

Actanonverba11 · 2018-02-14T16:47:33+00:00

Deadbeat dads have certainly contributed to the decline of our society. They're douchebags who refuse to take responsibility for their actions. On the flip side, make sure that this "deadbeat dad" is actually a "deadbeat", and not just because the ex calls him that.

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newName543456 · 2018-02-14T23:53:30+00:00

Being a "deadbeat dad" is a very efficient strategy, you get to procreate, while keeping your resources, since someone else is spending them. Or at least it would be so, if not for law system getting in the way...

lazyanhedoniac · 2018-02-14T12:05:09+00:00

Why don't you like them? It's not like the single mum couldn't easily get a substitute beta to provide a father figure for them. Also, do you mean to imply that you disapprove of two women raising children, if a father figure is so necessary?

Of course, there is the possibility that you just feel stupid for being such a "good" man, while those men get much more pleasure byt shitting on everything you value. In this case, you shouldn't be so obvious about it, because all your disapproval amounts to is the expression of your lower level, stupidity, and frustration.

Title	I really don't like deadbeat dads
Author	Malarki101
Upvotes	25
Comments	177
Date	February 14, 2018 7:57 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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