"Red Pill" Men: Your problems would not be solved if a woman was willing to have sex with you whenever you wished.

parahacker · 2021-11-19T06:46:11+00:00

In this thread:

Self-important 2 dimensional moralizing by OP, based off of variant B subtrope 3 of "money won't solve all your problems!"

(variant B being "sex won't solve all your problems!" see The Definitive Guide For Unassailable Arguments in the [redacted] collection for use cases of this variant)

MotiMorphosys · 2021-11-19T05:26:56+00:00

Pretty sure if I had like 10 beautiful women were willing to have sex whenever I wished, then my problems will be solved though!

/s

I do think that learning to improve your own sexual desirability is a good place to start working on yourself, and for the kind of men that come to TRP, one of the few things that could first motivate them to better themselves. That's honestly the way it was for me.

Along the way though, you find life has quite more to offer than sex, and that relationships have quite more to offer than sex.

It's only natural to hyper focus on the things we don't have.

Mark_Freed · 2021-11-19T09:45:01+00:00

As a rich kid, I am careful not to tell poor people money can't buy happiness. I know money is just means to an end but that is because I have enough of it to realize how it is overhyped after a point. This awareness is a luxury I have due to my wealth.

Non - incels telling incels their problem is not the lack of sex/physical intimacy/people of the opposite gender finding them undesirable is tone deaf.

I think Jordan Peterson put it well when he said - if a women rejects you its fine, but if most women reject you then you need to sit down and do some real soul searching. Women are intuitive and if you are undesired then it is a good reason to figure out what to change - maybe to workout, to simp less, to find a good job, to become a more happy/less toxic person.

I don't think it is smart to tell them its ok to stay this way and be complacent. You see a problem and directly offer the solution. What matters is how they get that solution. In your counterfactual, why is that women willing to have sex everyday? What changed? don't you think in the real world for things to go from incel to that sort of situation the guy should have "improved"? Or do you think women in general has shit taste and incels can turn into larger burdens on society by pursuing physical intimacy?

ledatherockband · 2021-11-19T08:40:44+00:00

Most of the complaints I see about RP in this sub are about things that aren’t RP.

You’re accidentally confessing that you don’t really know RP entails.

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michael1962-01 · 2021-11-19T07:20:37+00:00

You are young.

As being old and being chased since puberty I have always seen behind the curtains even I tried to ignore it.

That was long before the internet.

Let me tell you - RP is true to the core in most aspects it describes. Ignoring reality may make you happy - til reality bites.

RP is a amoral toolset of things men found out and describe.

You have different experience?

OK.

Fine.

I don't.

The girl of my best buddy with a ring on her finger direct and open showed me AWALT and Hypergamy first hand asking me to fu$$ her telling open "he does not have to know".

This is only ONE example of countless women approaching me and offering the self to me - in times I was rich and even in times I was broke.

Grow up a little - you will see the world different, especially if you burned your hand enough times.

My now young spouses acquaintance always was/is in a hoe "go girl" phase as single mom (she dumped the baby father who still has some 15 or more years to pay for them) and is now with a one putting her on a pedestal and proposing.

She?

She already cheated (officially she confessed only one to him) while engaged as she was so bored....

He is a real nice guy with a good income and not ugly or fat and genuine loves her and forgave her?!?!?!

I can go on for hours giving AWALT samples I experienced first hand.

So teaching RP or manospere to every young man would at least center our society a little more away from that woke nensense which Hollywood and feminism teaches.

And - most women are not really happy in the roles they have to fulfill now.

WilliamWyattD · 2021-11-19T09:17:10+00:00

Red Pill means many things. This argument is only accurate for some who might call themselves red pill.

But there is a grain of truth in that what men want is not just sex, but to be attractive to women in general and all that comes with it. If an unattractive guy somehow found two magical supermodels who for whatever reason found him very hot it would by no means fix all his issues. But it would be pretty fucking awesome lol

TheMailmanic · 2021-11-19T09:40:21+00:00

Trp is about sexual strategy. It's not about blaming your problems on lack of sex ffs

TheJim66 · 2021-11-19T06:41:18+00:00

Well, women are VERY willing to have sex with me because I use the red pill so I don't really understand your thought process.

There is no toxic mindset. You are just closing your eyes to how reality works and want to be told what a good boy you are for doing so.

ToughAnswers · 2021-11-19T05:21:41+00:00

Ignoring sex drive is folly. Of course "all problems" aren't solved by solving one problem lmao

Teflon08191 · 2021-11-19T06:51:28+00:00

I mean, it would solve the specific problem that draws men to TRP.

I don't think you thought this one out very well.

jasonology09 · 2021-11-19T05:39:10+00:00

For them it's not even that wouldn't be enough. The girl would also have to a virgin, but put on a pornstar performance in bed, have multiple orgasms at his slightest touch, think he's the most amazing man on earth, never think any other man is good-looking or charming, and go Dutch on all their dates.

Chuckles131 · 2021-11-19T06:37:57+00:00

I always disliked the "All it takes is one yes" claim. Women tend to gravitate towards men who are liked by other women, and if you've only got one "yes", she's probably not giving you a strong "yes". Also, it puts guys in a very scarce mindset. If you only have one "yes", then a guy can get clingy and worried about losing her. This can cause him to put up with a lot of shit that he shouldn't put up with in a relationship. It can shift the balance of power to her. And if it's not working out, he's afraid to leave because - even though she can find a new relationship in 6 months, it might take him several years: It's just a bad place to be in. I will even admit there were times I stayed in relationships for too long because I knew the dating world would be shitty for me.

It's easy to just say "have confidence bro, and you'll get women", but when women are turning you down and you don't know why, it can affect your emotional state which undermines your confidence, too. If someone grew up in a home that was unkind and negative, you tell them "think positively about yourself and you'll get further in life". Sure, it might be true, but changing to a positive mindset about yourself when you've grown up in a negative home isn't something that can be easily accomplished.

WheelIntelligent1354 · 2021-11-19T10:15:35+00:00

I'm confused by the post. I agree that sex isn't everything but our minds are literally designed to be okay with everything as long as we get tons of pussy.

stats135 · 2021-11-19T05:33:24+00:00

Yes. It will. This is because not having enough sex to many men is their only problem.

In response to the edit: TRP mindset is amazing. The claims of it being "toxic" are just BS.

Philip8000 · 2021-11-19T06:11:46+00:00

I expect when you've been lonely for a long time, even raw sex seems an improvement, though I don't think it'd lead to happiness in the long run. Speaking for myself, I'd rather have a genuine, loving relationship.

SleepingBoomer · 2021-11-19T06:26:12+00:00

Being wanted by Women and the dopamine release from sex probably does contribute a bit to happiness levels though. And because of the way society treats Men who DON'T get Women (basically as incompetent/weak/ugly/genetic garbage); it DOES contribute.

I don't care when some chick online calls me an Incel; I think it's hilarious. But I already did my sleeping around; so it's similar to some random White Social Justice type calling me a "Racist" even though I'm darker than they are.

To a dude who HASN'T gotten a lot of sex (or any); and who society has told consistently that he's basically genetic garbage BECAUSE Women aren't interested in him. I would imagine it has more of an effect; you know what I mean?

Women are constantly and consistently validated for pretty much everything; including body shape (even if they are obese), low career prospects and just being toxic in general. This is done by Journalists, Academics, Entertainment and pretty much every other facet of Society.

By contrast Men are put down in all of the above categories; even though if you look at the stats Women are objectively doing much better than Men (and the trends show that growing even more).

Gabrielvrape · 2021-11-19T05:37:33+00:00

Mine sure would, I don't like most people, and really don't like women either. But I do like to have sex every now and then so free sex, whenever I want, is a literal godsend. Speak for yourself.

sarkington · 2021-11-19T05:28:34+00:00

It would if they don’t really like women or people. Or doing anything but pursuing pussy

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purplish_possum · 2021-11-19T07:49:08+00:00

Doesn't solve all life's problems. But it certainly does take your mind off them.

No_Exercise_8670 · 2021-11-19T09:29:13+00:00

I am pretty successful with women and still believe in RP ideas, now what?

VasiliyZaitzev · 2021-11-19T09:48:38+00:00

I don't expect women to "solve my problems", I expect having a soft harem to satisfy my sexual appetite to solve the "sexual appetite" problem. And that's it. Oh, and it does. And by maintaining sexual relationships with multiple women, if one of the ladies gets out of line, then I can put her on the shelf indefinitely. Whether it's women, or an employer or whatever, when you have options, nobody can rattle your cage.

I'm rather quite happy with my - SHAMING LANGUAGE ALERT - "toxic mindset" - in which I put my needs first in my life rather than engage in 'nice guy' type sacrifice with a covert contract underneath.

And before anyone leaps to the wrong conclusion, putting my needs first does not mean to the exclusion of all others, it means I look out for Numero Uno. Sorry, not sorry, or whatever the kids say.

TheSmallerGambler · 2021-11-19T11:21:13+00:00

Actually their problems would be solved if they were having sex everyday. The issue is this normally comes in the form of a relationship which would not make many people here more satisfied with life.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-11-19T12:00:32+00:00

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