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Girl won't leave classroom when asked by the teacher, then resists arrest.

Iamthesnuggler69
October 27, 2015
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Title Girl won't leave classroom when asked by the teacher, then resists arrest.
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Iamthesnuggler69
Upvotes 784
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Date October 27, 2015 10:33 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 416 points417 points418 points 10 years ago (214 children) | Copy Link

Why you wanna stay in class so badly tho?

[–]MachineGunTeacher 414 points415 points416 points 10 years ago (205 children) | Copy Link

To prove a point - you ain't tell me what to do.

[–]the_driftless 173 points174 points175 points 10 years ago (204 children) | Copy Link

Go figure, no respect for authority. And of course this will be followed by this girl and her parents screaming racism. I will teach my kid to respect their teachers and other authority figures. If they don't then I expect this to happen to them.

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points38 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The cop was fired, not even other cops are justifying his actions and neither should you.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-videos/

[–][deleted] 71 points72 points73 points 10 years ago (57 children) | Copy Link

this cop reacted insanely inappropriately

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 10 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Luckily he was fired

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

source? if true thank god!

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

It's true. http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-videos/

What's fucking crazy is that even other cops are condemning his actions yet the fucking idiots posting here are still sucking his dick like he's a god damn hero.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I agree but I don't get why a cop was called in the first place. These are people trained to believe they responding to threats to public order and peace. People are so quick to call the police when they feel annoyed or inconvenienced but they don't think of themselves as dealing with those kinds of problems.

[–]jdgalt 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What else should the teacher do if she is no good at fighting and neither is the principal? Let the kid do whatever she wants?

He should have been able to get it done with less force. But he needed to be called.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's my problem with that, no one in her family could move her. No other individual in that school could. Everyone acts like there was "something" he could have done but her entire social network didn't care to do anything.

[–]berlinerbolle 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. What kind of society has this become, where something like this is police business?

Also, the cop did act inappropriately, but what to do? He was called, so has to act.

Here's a reasoning behind that:

link

[–]snapy666 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't even need to respect authority like a fine upstanding citizen. You just need to respect people and what they do for a living. (Given that what they do is morally good, of course.)

[–]bigheadgoat 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She doesn't have parents. Her mom died recently and she was taken into the foster system. She was also schizophrenic and bipolar from the reports i read.

[+]XxWITHAMxX -59 points-58 points-57 points 10 years ago* (53 children) | Copy Link

Teachers and authority figures can be wrong too. You don't have to kiss everybody's ass. Some people just have different views, and this is what happens for being different. I'm gonna get downvoted for this, because its not popular opinion. And I hope in that, you can try to understand from a different point of view. Watch, watch how these next comments will go.

Edit: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/28/us/spring-valley-high-school-sc-officer-arrest.html?referer=&_r=0

Fuck all of you. Cop was suspended. Fuck you. Fuck you.

[–]trollburgers 61 points62 points63 points 10 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

Just because a teacher may be wrong, doesn't mean you can refuse to leave class when told. And even if the teacher was wrong, doesn't mean you can resist a police officer telling you, lawfully, to come with them.

You may have a point about "blind obedience", but the woman in OP'S post does not deserve that defence. She wasn't "being different"; she was being a disturbance to everyone who was there to learn by not leaving when told.

[+]Pyehole -43 points-42 points-41 points 10 years ago* (20 children) | Copy Link

Refusing to leave did not justify that result under the continuum of force. That was unnecessary, brutal and disproportionate.

Edit: Go ahead and continue to downvote assholes - there is a well established principle on how an officer can react and when it is reasonable to use force

[–]trollburgers 39 points40 points41 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Refusal to leave led to the calling of the authorities for trespassing. Completely valid.

Refusal to accompany officer when asked led to being arrested.

Resisting arrest led to being taken down physically.

[–]samshady6430 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I wish everyone would learn this and stop believing that anyone getting beat up or killed by a police officer did nothing to bring it upon themselves. The media circus events over the last year involving police "brutality" likely could have been avoided if the "victim" was not resisting arrest.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you make the police work, best believe they're gonna go to work.

[–]XxWITHAMxX 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you bake potatos, you get baked potatos.

[–]Pyehole -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I do know this because there is a well established rule regarding how an officer can escalate a situation. This use of force continuum is the same reason it would not have been acceptable to just pull out his gun and shoot the girl. It is not the minimum needed to effect the arrest. In this case what he would have been justified doing is applying a pain compliance technique, i.e. grabbing her arm and placing pressure on the joint until she complied with the order to stand up. If his actions were considered reasonable by the sheriff he wouldn't currently be on suspension pending an investigation. When the sheriff saw that it was clear that this was not a reasonable and proportionate escalation, if it was there would not have been a suspension. Automatic suspensions only occur in cases where firearms are used.

[–]trollburgers 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'll believe there was excessive force when I see anything that shows that the girl sustained damages from the altercation. The officer grabbed her to get her to stand up. You see her react and grab the desk to prevent the officer from lifting her. The officer used force to get her to let go of the desk.

Looks dramatic, but I doubt it was as brutal as you seem to think. Again, I could be wrong, and she could be hurt. But I doubt it.

[–]Pyehole -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you fucking kidding? She damn near landed on her head and neck. He wasn't lifting her up, he was flipping the fucking desk over with her in it. The violence he used could have maimed or killed her had she landed wrong.

Clearly the Sheriff thinks his actions were not reasonable - there is a reason he was suspended pending an investigation.

Edit: your username tells the whole story.

[–]XxWITHAMxX 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These people wont listen. Look at their arguments. They just want to see a black chick get her ass beat.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yes it did. he was supposed to remove her and she resisted. dont like it tough shit... you dont make the rules. she had several chances for nice and she did not take them... totally on her and no one else.

[–][deleted] 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]elesdee 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ahh yes, sage advice from XxWITHAMxX, I think i met you on Xbox live before. How's my Mom treating you these days?

[–]CrazyLeprechaun 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When a teacher asks you to leave their classroom, you pack your shit up and leave. If they were in the wrong, you have a conversation about it with administration. Sitting in your seat when asked to leave is just stupid.

When a police officer gives you a lawful order, you follow it. Resisting arrest because "my teacher is in the wrong" is plain stupid.

There is a time and place for civil disobedience as a means of protest, if that's something you are into, but this doesn't even remotely resemble such a situation.

[–]holycrapolaness 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, whatever your viewpoint, job one is to figure out where the best place is to fight your battles and against who. This girl did not choose wisely.

[–]the_driftless 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

This has nothing to do with ass kissing though. Doing what your told is simply being obedient. If your boss tells you to do something, and you say, "I'm not kissing your ass", guess what, you are unemployed. If you want to do well in life, you have to do things you don't want to.

[–]Dynosmite -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just because they are wrong does not mean you don't have to listen to them. That is the price you pay for living in a society ruled by government

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

thats cause you are a dumb ass. you are not important enough to stay in class when the teacher and a police officer ask you to leave.

they may have been wrong but if they ask you to leave and you do not you are now disrupting the class and deserve what ever you get when you get removed.

dont want your ass busted then act like a human and get the fuck out

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wanted to hear you out- I was even prepared to upvote you- but your sentences were so jacked up that I want a cop to come in and beat up your comment like it was a defiant school kid

[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's funny that we have a job for people who are allowed to use physical violence against people being non violent. Our parents or grandparents agreed by voting to us being able to die for simply saying "no" repeatedly to someone.

[–]Sully9989 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

We aren't talking about people dying. We're talking about a (most likely) disruptive student. Yes, we need people who are able get physical to remove students like this from class.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's ok to be physically dominant over someone else, especially a minor, when they are sitting in a chair and nothing else? That's ignorant and primal. I hope you never accidentally miss your taxes or parking tickets so no one kicks in your door and shoots you if you don't move exactly how they tell you to. If this was my kid, I'd be dead for sure.

[+][deleted] -40 points-39 points-38 points 10 years ago (71 children) | Copy Link

Fucking nuts... this county and mindset is fucking banana's when you think its okay for a cop to police school students in this manner or any manner for the fact.

If people don't see how wrong this is, your fucking stupid, simple as or excuse me, brainwashed into believing all kinds of stupid shit. Think for your self Muppet.

[–]Celebit 14 points15 points16 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

*you're fucking stupid

[–]Median2 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What should be done when someone refuses to leave a place? I don't like when cops pull shit like this when they don't have the right, or authority, but I don't see how else they were going to get her to leave? I highly doubt this was the cop's first reaction, or the first recourse by the teacher.

[–]adrianjherman 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

List of alternative actions please? Please also consider that she has infringed on everyone else's rights/privilege's. So, go ahead, defend why she has a right to stay, to not be forcefully removed. She was given opportunity to do so peacefully.

[–]newgabe 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Like I said on imgur, u white cop apologists act like there's only 2 options: complete passiveness or absolute violence.. u are literally saying there is no other way he could have handled this. When it happens to u, don't cry for help

[–]Humdeee 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link

When you've been offered every chance under the sun to get up and move by request and you still aren't, what's the next step? I just want to see your thought process here.

[–]imissFPH 14 points15 points16 points 10 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

I wonder if u/dennisbergkamp10 would stand behind his comment if someone walked into his house and wouldn't leave. "No officer, don't force him out, just ask him to leave nicely, no need to use force."

Some people just don't understand that, while 99% of people are totally willing to comply with requests, there's a small percentage that says 'fuck you I do what I want!" and need a good smackdown to keep them in-line with societal standards.

[–]rx-bandit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Societal standards = getting violent with someone who isn't listening to you.... great standard there.

Your analogy doesn't work either. That is your house and your property, you have the right to protect it and if someone won't leave you have the right to do it by force. This a classroom that that cop doesn't own and is not protecting by throwing the student about.

[–]imissFPH 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"A municipality or government may own property, but like any other landowner, they have the right to exclude anyone (or everyone) from their property."

By your own definition...

That is your house and your property, you have the right to protect it and if someone won't leave you have the right to do it by force.

Since government property is under the same laws as personal property the officer had every right to protect that building by using force.

[–]rx-bandit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough, by lawful definition they're similar. But in reality they have different functions. This girl didn't just wander into a school that she didn't attend then refuse to leave, which would better match your analogy. She was legally allowed to be there, actually legally had to be there for her education, but because she was being prick, as teenagers often are, you think that gives that cop a right to aggressively throw her around like that? You're defending an arsehole abusing his power and effectively saying "it's fine for a cop to abuse a person for simply not following orders" which is not something i'd accept as a "societal standard".

They were both arseholes in this situation but the cop took that to the next level.

[–]imissFPH 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This girl didn't just wander into a school that she didn't attend then refuse to leave, which would better match your analogy. She was legally allowed to be there,

When they asked her to leave, legally she was trespassing. If I invite someone into my home, and then ask them to leave, and they sit on the couch and say "no". It's the exact same situation as what she did. If someone enters my home without my authorization and refuses to leave that's breaking and entering AND trespassing, two separate crimes, but one of the crimes is the same as hers. You've assumed that breaking and entering + trespassing was a single crime when they are not.

actually legally had to be there for her education

"Truancy is any intentional unauthorized or illegal absence from compulsory education. It is absences caused by students of their own free will, and usually does not refer to legitimate "excused" absences, such as ones related to medical conditions." She was legally required to be there... Until they asked her to leave. When they asked her to leave, they authorized her absence from compulsory education. Same as how students who are suspended aren't considered Truant.

as teenagers often are, you think that gives that cop a right to aggressively throw her around like that?

Don't make assumptions about me. What the officer did was extreme. But it was also in the moment and a reaction to her starting to hit him in the head, Then he threw her on the ground. She wanted to start a fight, and he ended it. (in case you didn't see it, her right arm just as he puts his hand around her neck to pull her up. She hits him once and is about to hit him a second time when he starts to throw her on the ground.)

You're defending an arsehole abusing his power and effectively saying "it's fine for a cop to abuse a person for simply not following orders" which is not something i'd accept as a "societal standard".
They were both arseholes in this situation but the cop took that to the next level.

You're defending someone who's depriving everyone else in that class an education because she doesn't want to give up her phone for the rest of class. She's effectively taking away their right to an education. Her right to an education is dependent on her actions. If she doesn't follow school rules, if she doesn't do her homework, she's not taking advantage of that right. But when she has a negative effect on the rights of those around her, she needs to be removed from class. Have you ever had a class with someone like that? One of those people that has specific plans to go nowhere in life. Now imagine they dragged you down with them? You wanted to go to be an engineer? Too fucking bad, that one asshole decided you didn't need to learn math. You wanted to be a doctor? Too fucking bad, that one asshole decided you didn't need to learn biology. You wanted to be a writer? Too fucking bad, that one asshole decided you didn't need to learn proper sentence structure that day.

[+]officialnast -14 points-13 points-12 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Unlawfully entering someone's home =/= sitting in a classroom

[–]imissFPH 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

bullshit. If a teacher asks you to leave, and calls the police. It's not because you were being naughty, it's because they REVOKED your invitation, making you a trespasser. I am describing literally the exact same crime.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

yes it does. she was asked to leave.

i want to hear how you solve this. specifics please

//edit; weird no specifics by the crybabies

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

What was he supposed to do? Just say, "Oh, you're not going to comply? Ok. That's fine." And then leave?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. That is exactly what these people think. And it blows my mind that people think they have some kind of special power, or right to do whatever they want and no one can touch them. If they truly gave her every opportunity to get up and get out and she just refused, I say toss the bitch out.

[–]XxWITHAMxX 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Very well put. There people just like to see this kind of shit.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

your fucking stupid.

You're fucking stupid. A police officer cannot simply leave when someone refuses a lawful order. It's never worked like that.

[–]JDMjosh 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm with you. This is insane...

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

you are the dumbfuck here in this retard.

not her classroom, she was asked to leave, she did not. police come she is asked to leave, she did not. she put herself before the class and the school. when she refused the police he has a responsibility to remove her as she is now trespassing. she refused... she is now resisting arrest and gets pummeled.

you have no solution for this except sorry kids class is ruined because we cant remove her. maybe tomorrow you can learn but learning is canceled for today because of this one child... sorry everyone else

[+]Hibidi-Shibidi -26 points-25 points-24 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I think you got respect and fear confused.

[–]the_driftless 33 points34 points35 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Nope. She was asked by her teacher to leave the classroom. She didn't out of lack of respect. Her 'fear' came after ignoring the teacher and officer to leave classroom. It was completely avoidable.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, what /u/the_driftless said.

[+]infinitude -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's probably problems at home. But I mean that's not the school's problem clearly. Much easier to have the police come in and fuck with them. /s

[–]abdulzz 48 points49 points50 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

She looked like she was stuck in the chair.

[–]imissFPH 64 points65 points66 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

He was just helping her out, see?

[–]badtwinboy 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fox: Officer kindly helps woman out of desk, gets called a racist!

CNN: Officer literally assaults black child in desk for no reason!

[–]wogsy 40 points41 points42 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I love your username :)

I miss FPH too. That place used to give me some good laughs. And don't you fat twats go downvoting me. you can't downvote someone on their cakeday. Its the law!

[–]uncommonstupidity 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For them, every day is cake day

[–]imissFPH 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

DAMNIT! got them with your legal mumbo jumbo! side note, give voat.co a try.

[–]TowerTrash 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a fat person, I too miss fph and hate most fat people. I went from fat to fit once and I let myself go. I own it, and I'm trying to change it. Most fat people I know think it's their fate and blame genetics that eating fast food and sitting on the couch got them fat. Fat people are the worst at taking responsibility for getting that way.

[–]killer4u77 38 points39 points40 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The other kids are just like "k"

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The other kids are like "I don't want to be killed by this armed thug."

[–]Soupdaloop 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The armed thug who, as someone in this thread already mentioned and cited, has a suit against him for unfairly targeting black kids, and can squat nine hundred and forty fucking pounds. In their minds, those kids probably thought they were next if they didn't keep their mouths shut.

[–]PassionVoid 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

can squat nine hundred and forty fucking pounds

Got a source? I don't believe that for a second.

[–]dangleberri 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course he doesn't

[–]SozenSuberashii 301 points302 points303 points 10 years ago (56 children) | Copy Link

I don't think this is the denial of a pussy pass...

[–]Carvinrawks 43 points44 points45 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Correct. The police officer was fired.

[–]cjc323 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

which is total bs.

[–]Carvinrawks 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The officer who was fired was known as "officer slam," and was a repeat offender of breaking protocol in a violent manner while making an arrest on a minor.

Being fired is an underreaction. That man should be behind bars.

There is absolutely no justification for his behavior. Defending it is, quite frankly, despicable.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Such bs, sure it might have been a bit overboard but no one got hurt in the long run and I bet she and her classmates learned a lesson that day.

[–]Carvinrawks 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The officer who was fired was known as "officer slam," and was a repeat offender of breaking protocol in a violent manner while making an arrest on a minor.

Being fired is an underreaction. That man should be behind bars.

There is absolutely no justification for his behavior. Defending it is, quite frankly, despicable.

[–][deleted] 128 points129 points130 points 10 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

This looks more like assault to me.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

Please explain what you would do in this situation. The other students in the class said the officer repeatedly asked her politely to get up and come with him and she kept refusing. Once he had to grab her, she fought back.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Update: The cop was fired, not even his police buddies are defending him now. Still think what he did was justified?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/us/south-carolina-school-arrest-videos/

[–]efilFOURzaggin 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The sheriff of the county is not a "police buddy", he's an elected official who bows to the political winds like all the others.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

"Fields did wrong and was fired for his actions, Lott said.

But the student must shoulder responsibility for the disruptive behavior that escalated to the officer being called in, the sheriff said. "

I still believe the girl is at fault. The cop is too, but acting like the girl is innocent is just being naive.

[–]flip69 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that there's a lot more going on than in the video.

They have some crazy laws passed in that state from what I've been hearing it's a crime for a student to "be disruptive" in the classroom.

Her refusing to get off of her cell phone was deemed by the teacher to "be disruptive" enough for a campus cop to be called into the classroom.

Sorry, but there's a whole lot wrong going on here and that the teacher should have handled the whole incident differently. The low grade cop should have NEVER behaved this way. He clearly doesn't understand how to use authority to get the kid to leave the classroom with him.

and Finally, the whole issue with him muscling the kid to where she's sliding on the floor - as the police chief pointed out, that's a "loss of control of the perp" and against their training.

wow.

She's a fucking kid that was acting up and being defiant.. to even treat her like a criminal is so damn wrong minded, thankfully I don't live in that backwards state.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Innocent? She IS innocent, as far as I'm aware she wasn't charged with any crime. That, by definition, is innocent.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Innocent of any crime, yes. Nobody said she was committing a crime. Schools have every right to forcibly remove a student if they're not cooperating. Witnesses said the teacher and officer gave her plenty of polite verbal warnings and asked her to stand up but she refused.

[–]Mordred7 -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

she did not fight back in this clip. He puts her in a headlock, slams her out of the desk then drags her away.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I don't know what video you watched, she was clearly resisting.

[–]ChrissiTea 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm pretty sure he's referring to OP's GIF. There isn't a video link above these comments.

[–]Mordred7 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

she resisted getting up, but i dont feel that justifies what he did

[–]Creature_73L 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It definitely doesn't. The officer has been fired already. Link

[–]adriana_12995 -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The teacher called the police because she wouldn't let her phone be confiscated. Sure, she had s shitty attitude and could have just turned in her phone but calling the police and having her arrested AND assaulted just for that is pretty extreme.

[–]divorso 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

so what? the teacher should just ignore her?, the studen should have more power than a teacher in a classroom?, get your head out off your ass.

[–]Creature_73L 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Is this really where the country is right now. The mind set to fall in line or get the shit beat out of you.
How about try calling the parents.
You don't get to assault someone because they have a shitty attitude and don't want to hand their property over to you.
Also, the cop has been fired already.

[–]adriana_12995 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Call her parents? Get your common sense out of here! She should be beated and dragged for not turning in her phone!

Seriously, this subreddit is beginning to get on my nerves. As long as they see a woman being hit or something just for being an ass it is excusable because "she is a sexist piece of shit". Like I have said before, this subreddit should just become r/womenhate

[–]adriana_12995 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol you get your head out of your ass. The most logical thing to do was to call her parents and bring them right to the classroom if needed. Such unnecessary force is unneeded when all she did was being a teenage ass who wouldn't turn her phone in. I'm sure if she was a man you would be losing your shit at the thought of a guy being dragged for not turning in his phone. No pussy pass here.

[+]civeng1741 -11 points-10 points-9 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

She hit the cop at the beginning

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No she didn't.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No she didn't you idiot or else she'd be charged with felony assault of a police officer. Show me in the video where she "hit" him first. You can't so fuck off.

Also, the cop was fired, not even his police buddies are defending him at this point.

[–]civeng1741 -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Right before she flips back, she hits him with a fist.

I'm not saying the cop is right to just pull her out of her chair like. Just stating the fact that she hit an officer. Like in any other case, once you hit the cop, they don't stop till you're in the ground.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If any civil claim, it'd be battery. But authority of law can be a defense to intentional torts, and may apply here.

IANAL, though.

[–]ellen_pao 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed

[–]Shankymcpimp 122 points123 points124 points 10 years ago* (27 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, it looks like he escalated way to quickly. Yeah she may have been a bitch but that's like having a cop bodyslam you because you don't wanna leave the bar. It looks like he didn't follow the normal steps of severity and went straight to extreme bodily force. Again this is just based on the video, as its four seconds long.

Please note, I am not trying to justify her actions, as they were wrong. I'm just noting what appears to be the scenario.

[–]AugurAuger -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

The cop says, "now I'm going to get you up," because she's refusing to get up (I assume after several attempts to verbally to do). And gently tries to get her up. She's definitely the one who escalated things by flailing like a simpleton. The cop really didn't have much a choice after that.

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[–]abovemars 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

gently

What? He went from not touching her to yanking her out/slamming her on the floor in less than two seconds.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not exactly. He went from touching her (maybe a little more then gently but nothing rough) then she hits him, then he goes beyond gentle

Edit: I will eat my words. I saw another video someone posted that was not as clear. She definitely did not hit him, he went straight to being pretty rough

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The cop was just fired for this, his cop buddies aren't even defending him. You still think it's justified?

[–]howyalikdemapples1 points 10 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. People don't understand the difference between passive and active resistance. She stopped being passively resistant the second she didn't let herself be dragged out limply. Not to mention that outside of this gif length she hit the law enforcement officer in the face. This is why Monday morning quarter backing is unreliable. Unless you were one of those two people you are unable to know exactly what happened.

[–]Soupdaloop 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She didn't have a chance. He was far too forceful and didn't realize that the method he was using to try and pull her out of the desk was causing more resistance because she was caught up in it. His force caused the desk to fall backwards, not her flailing; her flailing was the result of the natural human response to grab at something when your center of gravity has been unbalanced. Watch closely; the officer was not punched in the face. Like at all. Let's also not forget that this is a police officer - not merely a security guard - supposedly trained in keeping the peace. Too many people want justice against criminals, but that is for the courts to handle, not the cops. The cops are supposed to neutrally mediate situations, using restrained force only when necessary, their tasers only when being threatened or left without choice to apprehend a runaway, and their guns only when their lives are at risk. Society's view on cops is skewed, they are meant to be protectors and preservers, not violent offenders "in the name of justice". People are dying unjustly because of it, and this girl herself is very lucky she didn't suffer from a dislocated joint or head trauma as a result of this man's actions. She was being a brat, probably running her mouth, and certainly deserved consequences for her actions; but this? Nah. She didn't deserve this, nobody does.

[–][deleted] 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

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[–]fooreddit[🍰] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

So, the next step is violence? This doesn't seem like healthy values.

[–]Shankymcpimp 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Technically, as was explained to me, police go in several steps

Physical presence,

Verbal warning

Strict warning with, threat or promise, of physical action

Physical removal (in the case of a nonviolent crime)

subdue the suspect(in the case of physical resistance often via the use of pepper spray or tazer)

the use of nightsticks

finally guns.

Violence is a logical step, but only once the previous steps have been adhered too.

[–]Shankymcpimp 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

ext. Sure it looks like he escalated too quickly, but he might've asked her gently multiple times to get up and she didn't listen, which I'm assuming is the case. Unless someone can prove otherwise.

As ive heard its goes verbal, then light physical, then hard physical. He skipped the middle for a nonviolent offense. Think of it this way, youre at a bar. Bouncer comes over and says you need to go several times, you say no. He grabs you arm and says time to go. You should go. If you don't, then he gets to physically remove you. he doesn't just body slam you then drag you out in response to you saying no. That's my opinion.

But on the other side, this may be a repeat offender so that could explain it as well. But currently I'm leaning towards the former.

[–]AugurAuger -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He didn't skip shit, fuck that kid.

[–]Shankymcpimp 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not trying to say she was correct in refusing to listen to him.

the steps the video went in are, he grabs her arm while shes sitting defensively, puts her in a headlock directly after, she flails because she doesn't get that then he flips her. Her flailing wasn't due to the arm helping her out of the chair, its a result of the headlock. If anyone one puts you in a headlock, you are probably going to resist in some manner.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why does someone have to prove you wrong? You should prove yourself right.

[–]Lawnmover_Man 134 points135 points136 points 10 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

As long as those videos stay so short, there is really not much what you can say about it.

  • Anything could have happen
  • Cop is getting rough to pupil
  • Anything could happen afterwards

Without context - this is just the part in the middle. You cannot judge any few seconds of a slice of live properly.

[–]spiller37 27 points28 points29 points 10 years ago* (22 children) | Copy Link

Both videos from the room. Youtube Another angle on this. edit: Additional angle.

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points64 points 10 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

30 seconds between the time he gets there and he's initiating force.

I know I'm in PPD but that's fucking bullshit. The cop needs to use his words and understand that dealing with a child may require some patience. She may be under extraordinary stress and a few minutes may be enough time to talk her out without a fight.

I'm distressed that temporary defiance is seen by too many police as if it were literally a physical assault. Passive resistance needs to be treated with a reasonable amount of passive coercion. In this case 30 seconds is an absurdly short period of time to begin initiating force.

I know the retort is "well if she just did what he said blah blah" and my answer is that maybe she would have done what he said with a little bit more patience. I'm not talking about a 1/2 hour of pleading, I'm talking about 5 minutes. Enough time to explain to her that she has to come with him and what the consequence will be if she doesn't. Force should be a reluctant last option, not the very first go-to option.

[–]Mandoge 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. I work at a school and the staff I work with is trained to deal with these situations in case they were to arise. They are trained to comfort and try and get the student to see that their way of approaching the problem is wrong. And could further land them in trouble and they don't want that. They have counselors for a reason.

[–]balisunrise 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I disagree with you. There's a reason the police was called, the teacher must have tried reasoning with her a lot before even calling him. Resisting arrest is never a good idea and should always be treated with forceful arrest. He's not "initiating force" he's not beating her or anything, he's simply trying to get her out of the desk and in cuffs.

[–]spiller37 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think he could have removed her from the class with a little more tact.

[–]Sully9989 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

THANK YOU! The teacher didn't call them for no reason. When security shows up their job is to remove the student. They aren't there to talk. Calling security is already the last resort a teacher has for a problem student.

[–]newgabe 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah bc obviously she was hazard, sitting all calmly in her desk. COME HERE COPS AND BODYSLAM THIS UNDERAGE BITCH FOR DISOBEYING. U police state loving neckbeards morons

[–]Sully9989 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

"You police state loving neckbeard" nice assumptions about someone you know nothing about. Go work in a school in a shitty neighborhood and then tell me if you understand a little more.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The cop was just fired for this. Stop defending him.

[–]z960849 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I bet if the officer was female she wouldn't try to manhandle her.

  1. The teacher is a pussy.
  2. The cop is a pussy.

[–]Creature_73L 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If the cop was a female it would have been a taser. But I agree with points 1 & 2.

[–]Sober_Brendan 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Cops do enjoy being called by schools to deal with little uneducated brats who refuse to leave class after acting like disgusting entitled twats and being asked repeatedly to do so by their teacher. That's their jobs, of them cops: being sweet social workers in nice blue uniforms, because that's what law enforcement is all about, right? Filling in for years of lack of proper education, social values and respect of others that this cunt's parents considered their degenerate offspring is not bound to be taught while she must have every right to be treated with the utmost consideration and niceness like her shit is made off pure gold. Yes, you're right, that's his job for sure, of this law servant.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, you're right, that's his job for sure, of this law servant.

He was just fired, obviously this was NOT his job since even his cop friends aren't defending him now.

[–]Please_Label_NSFW 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hood rat being a cunt.

Saw this bs daily when I used to live in the Bronx.

[–]InsomniacAlways 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thats not how media takes it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The cop was just fired, so whatever the "context" was, not even his cop buddies are defending him now.

[–][deleted] 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]ChopperGunner187 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Most accurate comment on here."

"I've seen enough public freakout to know how this went down."

um..

[–]Iamthesnuggler69165 points 10 years ago [recovered] (352 children) | Copy Link

hmmm I don't want this to seem like an ANTI girl post. This video has been plastered all over the internet, saying "how could he be so rough with a poor innocent girl" and "he's a big strong man how dare he touch her like that". Honestly I think the cop was a bit too overly aggressive, but this wouldn't have gotten ANY attention if it was a guy in that girls place.

[–]plumpasaurus 45 points46 points47 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

If it was a black guy it still would have received a lot of attention.

[–]MyNudePepPep 24 points25 points26 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

If it was an American Indian no one would give a shit.

[–]Chay-wow 52 points53 points54 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Raises hand How?

[–]MyNudePepPep 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ugh

[–]noneofyourbiness 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

boooooo

[–]fruxzak -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Native American or Indian American?

[–]MyNudePepPep 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

American Indian aka Native American.

[–]thelordofcheese 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Homer or Apu?

[–]red3biggs -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Indian American

Do they look like they could be Muslim? And did they have a watch on?

[–]thehypervigilant 266 points267 points268 points 10 years ago (148 children) | Copy Link

OR it wouldn't have got any attention if she just listen to her teacher. Literally none of this would have happened if she wasn't such a cunt.

[–][deleted] 10 years ago (123 children) | Copy Link

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[–]thelordofcheese 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Last week while cleaning the soup kitchen a woman clearly in her 40 comes in with her phone blaring some knuckleheaded mindless crappy ghettofabulous rap. This is against the rules, and was bothering other patrons, so a bunch of them told her to shut it off.

She responds by starting to bitch at the only male who told her to obey the rules: a man in his late 50s who requires a cane to walk.

What proceeded was a pitched battle to figure out which of the two was a 𝖓𝖎𝖌𝖌𝖊𝖗.

#BlackLivesMatter

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You went from zero to bigot in 1.1 Reddit comments

[–]Iamthesnuggler696 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude lighten up. People make fun of every race, but as soon as you make fun of someone black everyone starts screaming racist. Seems a bit... Racist.

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

A shame it is that these people have to come in an ruin this sub.

/r/pussypassdenied is not for misogynists, racists, or otherwise douchy types of individuals.

It used to just be about a specific kind of justiceporn.

[+]aknightcalledfrog -77 points-76 points-75 points 10 years ago (46 children) | Copy Link

You have no idea of the context. You are just being racist. If this was a white girl doing the same shit and getting owned by a cop, you'd be outraged. At the very least you wouldn't start mocking her skin colour.

Inb4 you accuse me of being a white knight/race traitor etc.

[–]gryts49 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (20 children) | Copy Link

The context was given, the teacher asked her to leave and she clearly refused because a cop had to be called. Seen the exact same thing happen in high school like 10 times.

[–]Bob_0119 21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You assume that he'd be outraged if she was white? Do you also assume Iamthesnuggler69 is white? Is that why you assume how Iamthesnuggler69 would feel if her race was different? How many "white" people expressed their outrage at the "don't taze me, bro" guy vs how many thought it was funny as hell? My expirience thus far is that all the white people I know that saw that video thought it was funny as hell.

[–]OneMe2RuleUAll 21 points22 points23 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would someone be outraged because she was white? I've literally never heard someone say "how dare they do that to a white person". When a cunt is being a cunt it doesn't matter what color the cunt is.

[–]Splatypus 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. You can find almost the exact same situation with a white girl instead. Saw one in reddit a few weeks ago. People still mocked her with bitchy white girl stereotypes.

[–]shoelie 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair white girls can be cunts too. The color part shouldn't be an issue.

[–]LN2482 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If it was a white girl nobody would give a fuck, it would be a non-story because it can't be spun into a "fuck the evil racis police" story

[–]Iamthesnuggler696 points 10 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Nope you're right. I watch a lot of publicfreakout so this is what I imagined happening. But you know skin color doesn't mean anything, it has to do with how you were raised. What guidance, values, and morals were instilled upon you growing up. However there is a strong correlation between certain types of people, and skin color.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I always tell my friends, "Stereotypes exist for a reason."

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're just being anti-white. If this was a jew doing the same shit and getting owned by a gas chamber, you'd be shitting your pants from outrage.

[–]JoshAndArielle 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You have no idea of the context.

Actually, YOU have no idea of the context.

You are just being racist.

OH NO DAS RAYCISS. Go find something else to use as a rebuttal because it's getting old.

If this was a white girl doing the same shit and getting owned by a cop, you'd be outraged. At the very least you wouldn't start mocking her skin colour.

Actually, I would. That's called white trash.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

you always assume people are racist?

that must suck

[–]aknightcalledfrog 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Imitating the speech patterns of a race in a derisory tone is racism, plain and fucking simple, much like mocking a facial feature or cultural practice. We don't tolerate blacking up for christ sake.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

who is this we? you got something as retarded as you in your pocket?

[–]mightybonk 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Of course. Of course he shouldn't be too aggressive with the girl. Of course.

... but maybe

If he had failed to get that girl out of the chair and out of the classroom, he's done.
In front of everyone, if you ask one kid to do what they're told and they refuse, and you back down - every other kid will walk all over you in the future.

I'm not saying this is the case here... but we all know there ARE schools in America where any weakness from teachers would be exploited and everyone else gets less of an education due to the constant disruption.

[–]Iamthesnuggler697 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right. I don't think this guy went 0 to 100 in this video. My guess is that she's been a problem student for a while, and there's lots like her that he deals with daily.

btw. Was that a subtle Louis Ck quote in there? "Of course. But maybe..." Man I love Louis CK

[–]mightybonk 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course!

[–]TheChrisCrash 54 points55 points56 points 10 years ago (51 children) | Copy Link

The thing is, the people yelling "he shouldn't have done that!" have no rebuttal on what he SHOULD have done. I've seen kids like this in person who don't listen to any authority.. They need a little ass whoopin' to bring themselves down to earth.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

One girl who does yoga said to me "I would have talked to her and understood her even if it took all night, but I guess they don't have time for that. But maybe that's it, maybe they just don't want to make time for it" Yeah ok

[–]aknutty 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So basically your instructor is ok with a teenager taking hostage an entire classroom/school.

[–]reddit4getit 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This wasn't Columbine, chill with the hyperbole.

[–]JT91733 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

taser taser taser

[–]SAD_FACED_CLOWN 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link

He could have used all that muscle to move the entire desk into the hallway.

[–]imissFPH 22 points23 points24 points 10 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

And then what? just leave her out there? what if she stands up and goes back in the class and just sits on the floor? How much of everyone else's time does she get to waste? At what point does her feelings stop being more important than everyone else's right to learn?

[–]ChrissiTea 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What happened when you were at school?

If someone was being disruptive in my school, you were either put in the hallway or taken to one of the department heads for detention or whatever.

Why is everyone acting like calling the fucking police for one disruptive teenager, which I'm pretty sure we all had in one of our classes, is the only possible thing that could have been done in this situation?

I completely agree with /u/SAD_FACED_CLOWN. He should have just pulled her desk into the hallway and then have gotten physical if needed, which it really wasn't, whether she hit the cop or not.

Seriously people, what happened to the disruptive kids in your school? Were they just allowed to do whatever they wanted? Were they removed from class without physical means? Or, did they have the fucking police called on them?

I can't believe some of you genuinely think a kid should be arrested for refusing to leave a classroom.

[–]Buzz_Killington_III 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm with you completely. I think these peoples anti-pussypass stance is clouding their judgement.

I look at it as compared to civil disobedience. The girl wasn't being violent or dangerous and the cop only does it specifically because she wasn't a threat. Let that be a 170 lb fullback on the varsity team and he would have taken a different approach.

If this were a group of people sitting on the Police Department steps and refusing to move as an act of nonviolent disobedience would this be an appropriate and acceptable response? History says no. So then why is it acceptable for violently escalate the situation for a student who refuses to move in school? It's not. Very plain, very simple.

[–]SAD_FACED_CLOWN -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Hmmm "what if she stands up and goes back in the classroom?" I think the 200+ pound police officer would be there to stop that plan.

[–]imissFPH 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

So... That officer just spends the rest of his day there? Great plan. A+.

[–]SAD_FACED_CLOWN 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

No silly ass he could cuff her when she stands up from the desk. Wouldn't you agree that it's easier to arrest someone who is standing rather than sitting in a desk? THINK MC FLY!!!!!

[–]imissFPH 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

No silly ass he could cuff her when she stands up from the desk.

So... That officer just spends the rest of his day there? Great plan. A+.

So... That officer just spends the rest of his day there... waiting for her to stand up? Great plan. A+.

[–]SAD_FACED_CLOWN -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Use your thinking cap. Why would the officer have to stay there all day? he could simply arrest her in the hallway or escort her to the office once he gets her out the desk. I think the student would be more willing to comply away from her classmates. Sometimes children show off when they have an audience.

[–]imissFPH 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Use your thinking cap. Why would the officer have to stay there all day? he could simply arrest her in the hallway or escort her to the office once he gets her out the desk.

I did. See, if she wouldn't stand up in the class and the officer just pussy-footed around her and dragged her into the hall, she thinks she won. She has control over him. Now she doesn't want to move because she's already exerted power over the officer and thinks she can continue to control him. So now she just sits there and the officer has to force her out of the desk anyway, but now he's tired because he just dragged 150 lbs 15 feet.

Sometimes children show off when they have an audience.

Sometimes kids need a reminder of what happens if they want to be little shits. If she gets away with just a talking to, what's to keep the next kid from doing the same thing? "She disrupted the entire class and got away with it. I don't want to take the this test today, I'll do the same thing." all the sudden... You have this happening more often. Look at that, one incident turned into four... which turns into twelve.

[–]SAD_FACED_CLOWN -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Once in the hallway The officer can attempt to reason with her. Children tend to try to show off when they have an audience. If all else fails he can use force in the hall way away from the cameras.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You should go be a cop.

[–]SAD_FACED_CLOWN 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a Dean at a community college with a peace officer program. I'm doing my part.

[–]imissFPH 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's... Scary. In the event I ever needed to use force, I'd rather it be on camera. Since that way it's easier to explain. Had he dragged her desk into the hallway and then did this, she could have simply said "oh I was going to comply" or "for no reason he started beating me, he hit me over and over and he stuck his finger in my ass, so he raped me too!"

This at least has a chance to be reviewed by other officers, and if he's considered to be using excessive force is likely to be punished. Even if it's a slap on the wrists.

[–]reddit4getit -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Goddamn is it that hard to just take her by the arm and escort her out? He also could have thrown her on his shoulder and walked out of the building. There were many options and he chose to subdue her like she just robbed a 7/11.

[–]imissFPH 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

goddamn is it that hard to give your phone to the teacher for 40 minutes and get it again after class?

See this? See how simple one thing is compared to the other. None of this wouldn't have happened if she wasn't a cunt.

[–]reddit4getit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying one is the adult and one isn't. Someone needs to keep a cool head and the person with the gun should have acted accordingly.

[–]imissFPH 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She's 15, we trust her with a 3000 lb death machine. Yet we can't trust her to behave? Imagine what would happen if she decided "fuck it, I can drink and drive?!" I would have been fine with the officer straight up bitch slapping her, but that would cause even more hate Ironically.

[–]reddit4getit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

See, I can't agree with you there. My whole point is that the officer could have been the bigger person and could have kept a cool head but decided not to. What good would slapping her have done? He might as well have because it probably would have ended the same way anyway, him being fired. All that comes from this is more distrust for the police. What's worse is that this happened in front of kids, who are the most impressionable.

[–]imissFPH 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. They're probably less likely to act up though. Shit like that would give a kid with helicopter parents even more PTSD.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

yes because the hallway is a place of magic that automatically turns little cunts into proper students that shoot rainbow sparkles out their ass.

so put disruptive student in hallway, with no supervision. nice work Socrates

[–]badtwinboy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

escalation is the only answer?

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They need a little ass whoopin' to bring themselves down to earth.

I saw teachers handle this exact situation without the aid of a cop and without violence a million times while I was in school. I'm sure she was being a total fucking bitch but the cop was WAY worse here.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How did they handle it?

[–]spiller37 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Another angle and longer video here.

[–]pkkid 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. GIFs have a place, and this isn't one of them.

[–]lorri789 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it was fine.

[–]pkkid 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think what he did was fine. The only other alternative I can see is the cop standing there while she shows off to all her friends that she has more control of the situation than he does.

[–]youdonotnome 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's not true. Police brutality gets attention, man or woman.

And this woman was in no way trying to use a pussy pass.

Stop trying to turn this sub into beating women.

[–]BreakDownSphere 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you. I don't want to be subscribed here if it turns into more of this. Good denials put a smile on my face, this just made me slightly disturbed.

[–]mikihoshii 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

omgz but women are SOOOO OPPRESSED HOW COULD YOU SAY THAT!!!!!1 /s

[–]RadicalBoner698 points 10 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Fuck her, she just needs to wise up

[–]Webonics -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

He is to overly aggressive. He is not under threat of bodily harm.

There is no reason to flip the table and slide the girl into the wall because she is being disobedient. It's fucking crazy.

That's what bothers me about these mens rights and subs like this.

You have a legitimate point, but you people border on championing the abuse of the weak by the strong. This is abusive. No question.

[–]sEcKtUr8 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here is the issue with being a police officer. When you are an officer and have to remove someone from some place like we see here, often times the subject is belligerent and unwilling to follow simple commands or orders. In situations such as these, the officer must gain control over the subject in order to carry out his or her task. This involves a fair amount of man-handling, to a varying degree depending on how complacent the subject may or may not be. Often times, the subject is aggravated by the contact involved in this action, and tends to fight back. Because the officer must carry out his or her task, the officer must show enough force to neutralize the subject and force them into complacency. (The whole face down on the ground, pulling the hands behind the back and cuffing them thing)

The officer here grabbed her by the arm to entice her out of the desk, and when she wouldn't come, she was forced out. The amount of force the officer used was what he deemed necessary in order to force the subject into complacency. How he reached that decision is unknown to us because, as often times is the case, we don't have the full context of the situation. We are not at liberty to say that he used too much or too little force, since we do not have the full picture. Was she a threat to him? Doubtful, but a subject does not necessarily have to be a threat for them to be on the receiving end of forced complacency. They simply have to show enough disobedience to warrant it.

The fact of the matter is that police officers have a job to do, and that job very often involves getting a subject under their control. If the subject believes they have done nothing and that the officer's suggestion otherwise is offensive and unacceptable, then the officer is going to have a tough time, as with this girl, bringing the subject under control so he can do his or her job. An easy way to avoid this is to listen to the officer, do as he or she says, and sort out the details later. If you have done nothing wrong, then they will let you go. They just have to keep you in one place until they can confirm that, just for simplicity's sake.

[–]googltk 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Do you know how to avoid that? By her not being an entitled little shit. Just listen to the lawful commands by cops the first damn time and she wouldn't have to be treated like a criminal.

Those desk flip insanely easily anyways and its hard to pull people from them. He didn't punch her or choke her out. He did what he had to to gain control over an unruly kid.

Act like a fool, you gonna get treated like a fool.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you know how to avoid that? By her not being an entitled little shit.

We could also avoid this by not having dipshit cops get violent over the smallest fucking shit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But violence and bullying are literally the only reason most cops join the force. Or at least videos like this and the people who defend them make it seem that way.

[–]rootyb -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How, exactly, does "being an entitled little shit" (which, really, the video doesn't show at all, so... you're just assuming) equal "deserving to get your ass kicked by a police officer"? Cops are not Judge Dredd, getting to dole out punishment as they see fit. That's a police state, and is the kind of thing we invade third-world countries for allowing.

In what way was she a danger to anyone around her? Because that is the only situation in which that much force is warranted. He literally threw her across the room. It's fucking absurd.

"Being kind of a shit" is part of being a teenager. Getting the shit beaten out of you by a police officer should not be, and it's fucking ridiculous that so many redditors are acting like it's okay.

If the student was, say, protesting CISPA, you'd all be lining up to jerk each other off about how awful the cop was and how he should be fired and posting his home address and the fact that he was investigated in 2007 for the use of excessive force.

Since it was a girl, though, it's okay, cuz she clearly deserved it, right?

[–]SomRandomGuyOnReddit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. It would still gain attention if it was a dude. Its a cop throwing a kid around in a classroom.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The girl had just lost her mom or both her parents, she was clearly going through some personal issues that all her teachers should've been made aware of. Especially with her being new to the school and being in foster care

[–]TankVet -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (87 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. I think his job is protect himself and get her under control. When you're in a fight like that, you fight to win, THEN you worry about the other person.

This isn't a friendly dispute gone wrong. This a woman violently resisting, she's not off the hook because she got her ass kicked. She's not the victim because she lost.

[–]rootyb 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think our definitions of "violently" are really fucking different.

[–]brentwilliams2 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago [recovered] (38 children) | Copy Link

This a woman violently resisting

Did you see a longer video showing this, because I don't see how you can call that violently resisting. She just sat there, and then only reached up after he had grabbed her by the neck.

[–]imissFPH 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link

She's definitely non-violent, but she needed to be removed from the classroom.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link

Then find a non-violent way to get her out. I saw this situation many times in school with a kid being a fucking brat and magically the teachers were able to handle these situations without violence and punished the kid properly.

[–]imissFPH 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link

Then... tell me a non violent way to get her out. I mean, you're so much smarter than the officer. Asking her to leave didn't work. You want to tear gas class? Drag the desk into the hallway like so many others have pointed out? What then? She walks back into the class? Bangs on the door. Solve this problem for the many many others who couldn't solve this before force was involved.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Violent is not the right word but she was definitely resisting in some manner

[–]brainiac256 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link

This isn't a friendly dispute gone wrong

This is pretty much exactly what it is actually, if you watch the longer video you see a girl sitting in her seat saying "I don't want to leave" then all of a sudden getting beat up, if it were anybody other than a cop they would be facing serious charges.

She's not the victim because she lost

No, you're right, she's the victim because an officer of the law used wildly unnecessary force to cause injury to a person who was not a risk to himself or anybody else. He beat her up because he wanted her to know who was in control, not because she was going to fight him.

You disgrace this subreddit by thinking this video belongs here.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i want you to go into a public place like a restaurant or a library and you just sit there. when they tell you to leave refuse. when the cops come refuse. when he or she puts his hands on you resist.

and then come back here and tell us about how it went

[–]imissFPH 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link

So, they asked her to leave... and she didn't want to leave. She just gets to do what she wants?

There's a chance the teacher was like "lol fuck blacks! get out bitch, you don't get to learn". But it's more likely she was distracting other students and was asked to leave. What's more important, everyone else in that classroom's right to an education, or what she wants?

[–]brainiac256 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

No, but "she didn't want to leave so she gets body slammed and dragged around on the floor" isn't quite right either... try again.

[–]imissFPH 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

So, how would you remove her?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I saw this exact situation several times while I was in school. The teachers always handled it without violence.

[–]imissFPH 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You saw this exact situation. Where teachers couldn't resolve an issue and had to call the police... but the teachers always handled it without violence?

[–]red3biggs -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

IMO the amount of force appears to be excessive. Any use of force can look to be too much in many peoples eyes, and its very difficult to look at something and make a determination.

This cuts both ways as people see either a person resisting and most cases of force are justified by the viewer, or people see overly abusive officers avoid using minimal force when subduing people.

[–]imissFPH 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's not an answer to the question. It may look excessive, but then again, many people think spanking a child for hitting someone is excessive. All of this could simply be considered moot since it would have been resolved if the girl had just got up and left when she was asked. Even if you consider the police brutal, I sure as hell wouldn't piss of a bear because I know the bear can fuck me up.

[–]red3biggs 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not of a position to express what are and are not acceptable restraining tactics.

And I'm also trying to acknowledge the problems with outside people judging what is and is not acceptable use a force.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

many people think spanking a child for hitting someone is excessive.

No, it's just fucking stupid. Why would you think hitting a child would teach them not to use violence?

Even if you consider the police brutal, I sure as hell wouldn't piss of a bear because I know the bear can fuck me up.

Maybe we shouldn't have bears in the classroom around children.

[–]FullRegalia -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes, how exactly would one remove her without physically removing her? Shall we buy her ice cream?

[–]brainiac256 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

False dichotomy. There are plenty of ways to physically remove a noncompliant person without seriously damaging them, to wit, pressure point or joint manipulation, which is commonly taught to cops expressly for situations such as this.

Are you one of those people who thinks we should immediately nuke off the face of the earth any country we go to war with?

[–]FullRegalia 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I'm somebody who believes in following orders and dealing with any wrongful orders in the courts.

[–]aknightcalledfrog 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He grabbed her round the fucking neck. Plus, she is at most 15-16 here, which is still a CHILD. She wasn't putting the cop at risk, and if he couldn't handle a small weighs nothing girl without slamming the fuck out of them then he doesn't deserve to be a cop.

[–]SAD_FACED_CLOWN -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This is not a woman it's a CHILD.

[–]thelordofcheese 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That's not how biology and physiology work.

[–]SAD_FACED_CLOWN 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Whatever....anyone under 18 is a child in this society.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Violently resisting? It doesn't get anymore peaceful than a young unarmed girl sitting down calmly.

What is sad is that the police actually do see this thing as "violently resisting" and then they meet that perceived force with actual force, causing unnecessary violence and drama. All while damaging the public perception of the police and making society more dangerous as a result.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree. I think the below comments are a little weird, maybe even a bit backwards. The use of this kind of force does appear aggressive.

Apparently the school cop is known for being aggressive towards students. Obviously she shouldn't have been a "cunt" but the School's SRO definitely shouldn't have had to use that much force.

Whatever happened to calling the parents to pick up a bad student? The mom or dad would be pissed off enough being called from work to give em hell.

[–]robroy78 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe it's a recurring theme and they can't do anything either?

[–]dogfacedboy420 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bullshit. It would still be on Good Morning America just like this one was today.

[–]Saskyle -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck yeah it would have gotten attention. I saw this earlier and had no idea it was a girl and I thought it was fucked up. I don't think this is a ppd and IDK why you would post this if you didn't want it to seem like an "anti girl post". Bring on the downvotes but this is not funny and its not a ppd. There s no reason for an officer to treat a minor like that, while sitting down especially. She didn't appear to be resisting in any way whatsoever. I don't get why you and others think that anytime a female gets roughhoused or beat up that it is a ppd. That's not how this works.

[–]Snowfire870 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your right and I dont disagree that he should have used force but that was alot more then a bit. Its like he had no clue how strong he was. Most normal people would understand that something had to be done but not turn her into a ragdoll

[+]Creature_73L -30 points-29 points-28 points 10 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I disagree, guy or girl in that students place the cop was way out of line. Hope he not only loses his job, but gets sued as well.

[–]Iamthesnuggler6913 points 10 years ago [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

He's been suspended pending further investigation. I think people are a bit overly sensitive now a days. I mean he didn't HURT her. He just kinda slid her along the ground. I think it looks more violent then it actually was.

[–]Creature_73L 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's been fired now. Which didn't take them long to come to that decision.

[+]Creature_73L -10 points-9 points-8 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I don't see it as being overly sensitive to say you don't get to assault someone just because they don't stand up when asked. The genders of the participants do not matter.

[–]gryts17 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

What should the alternative be to a student who just sits there saying no I won't get up over and over? Just cancel class and wait for her to get up on her own? She's trying to make a point.

[–]Creature_73L 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe I live in a crazy world, that you call the parents when student is acting in a childish manner. Rather than throwing them across the room when their no threat to anyone.
Also, he's been fired now.

[–]Iamthesnuggler6911 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Well at that point she was resisting arrest. That technically gives the police officer the right to "assault" her as you put it. But no he was arresting her, not throwing her to the ground for the hell of it.

[–]insickness 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In case anyone wondering whether this is PPD, it is. Reuters: Sheriff seeks probe after video of violent arrest of South Carolina student

"The amount of force used on a female student by a male officer appears to me to be excessive and unnecessary," said James Manning, chairman of the Richland Two Board of Trustees.

[–]insickness 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah but if the student were male, this would have been okay.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If it was a white male the entirety of reddit would be chanting "lol punk" and that would be that.

[–]thedanyon 34 points35 points36 points 10 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link

In the longer video, it shows when she hits the cop in the face. I feel like that's not getting mentioned.

[–]spiller37 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Several angles here and I don't see where she hit him at all.

[–]Tqbfjotlds5 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

That would change the context completely. Right now it looks like she was just sitting in class and was attacked.

[–]thedanyon 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why it's super irresponsible how it has been portrayed. I still think he went too hard but she wasn't just some bystander.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

i like how all the brothers are like "i seen nothin"

[–]ash-leg2 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I think that's evidence that she was asking for it. Notice how none of the kids react, probably because 1. she had it coming and 2. it looks worse than it was. If it was unjustified they'd be freaking out.

[–]abovemars 13 points14 points15 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Its because the cop is well known at the school. Theres a lawsuit against him from 2014 for unfairly targeting black students. He's also the power lifting coach and can squat 940 pounds.

Another angle of video

lawsuit source

Squatting video

Also he was threatening students while in the room, would you stand up to some guy who has a history vs. black students and can crush you that easily?

[–]ash-leg2 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Well that changes things.

*Never mind, I just had a chance to watch your videos and I'm going back to my first thought.

And no, I didn't expect anyone to stand up to the guy, "that'd be silly. I was thinking more like cowering or making an "OH SHIT" face. The kids in this video don't react at all."

[–]abovemars -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, and actually one of the girl's classmates was arrested because she was "distraught". I don't blame the kids for not doing anything. If you're around 16 years old and you see some authority figure beat the shit out of a classmate, what are you going to do, fight him?

[–]AdziiMate 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Beat the shit out of a classmate"

What?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How can you target a specific type of person when it looks like every single person in the room is of that variety?

[–]abovemars 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently the school is 52% black

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

She was asked to leave by a teacher, she refused. They asked her a few times. The cop comes and tells her to leave on her own accord. SHE REFUSED. What do you SJW's want them to do? Just say "ok, you win and don't have to listen to authority." Get real. You people make me sick. These little fucks in their teens and twenties are raised by shit parents who don't know the first thing about respect either.

[+]bsutansalt -6 points-5 points-4 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Call the principle. When that person shows up and the kid is still unruly, call the parents. Calling police on a misbehaving child just demonstrates the teacher and principle's incompetence and having zero business in those positions of authority over children.

[–]Sully9989 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Haha. Seriously? If the kid is acting like this, her parents won't do anything. It's not like the school called 911. The cop was the one assigned to the school.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good luck saying the same thing over in this thread teens like this who have no respect for teachers, law enforcement don't really care what the parents say

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. In these days if that teacher had done anything he'd be the one in trouble. Now it's all on the one person who decides to act which was the cop. Yes he over reacted but are you saying the teacher calling police makes him incompetent? In these times where everything is posted all over the media and these dumb kids think they can say or do anything without any consequences. You want to call the teacher incompetent because he doesn't want to get involved with all this bullshit from parents and the community that all have an agenda more so about the justice system than their own kids. That is a ridiculous statement to make. He (the teacher) made the right call to get a higher authority involved.

[–]bsutansalt 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes he over reacted but are you saying the teacher calling police makes him incompetent?

Yes. What dire crime did she commit that needed on the scene police response? She pulled out her phone and mouthed off. Woooweee, that's a major crime she sure done did. /s

This is an administrative situation and requires parental involvement by way of notifying them she got detention/suspension, NOT police being summoned to... do... what exactly? What reasonable need is a child being disruptive by using a phone in ANY WAY reasonable calling the police? This is right up there with a McDonald's employee calling police because someone was on their phone when it was their turn to order thereby holding up the line.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my state (New Mexico) every school has uniformed officers on campus and they are basically security for the school. They are generally older officers about to retire unlike this one obviously. But they are there acting as security and have the powers of the police. To get them involved is no more than a simple radio over to them, usually just parked in the parking lot, and they are there right away. No way this teacher actually called 911, and it was probably told to him by the principal to call security if a situation arose. After everything that has happened in schools these days do you really fault (or call incompetent) a teacher that goes to a trained security guard to handle a disruptive student? And I will say again this guy was absolutely in the wrong for what he did! I'm just saying the teacher is not in the wrong.

[–]joey_diaz_wings 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The principle can't get her to leave and would have to call police.

The parents don't care, which is why the kids don't bother doing homework or studying. They blame the teachers for not getting their little idiot educated.

[–]DogPawsCanType 20 points21 points22 points 10 years ago (52 children) | Copy Link

Its so weird as a non American to see police in a classroom like that.

[–]sosorrynoname -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (49 children) | Copy Link

When you have people on welfare that don't give a fuck you get criminals in schools.

[–]whydoievenreply 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

The implication being that US is one of the few countries that give welfare?

[–]adrienr9 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (37 children) | Copy Link

Ehh I lived in a VERY wealthy city and a kid whose dad makes easily over a quarter of a million a year shot a friend of mine over some weed.

*Whose not who's

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Pretty sure who's is the correct usage there?

[–]adrienr 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who's = who is

whose = possessive form of who

[–]ellen_pao -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

When its white, its mental illness

[–]adrienr 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Did anyone say he was white?

[–]potehtoes 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's weird as an American too

Every school bigger than say, a thousand students, has at least one cop. But they're never required to come into classrooms

[–]Bak8976 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The teachers black, all the students are black and minorities and no one moved an inch. Maybe, just maybe, she's the asshole and everyone wanted her gone. Why is this so tough?

[–]Drunken_dog12 points 10 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget, when a black criminal is killed by black police officers in a black city with a black council and black mayer in a country with a black president… its white peoples fault.

[–]Bak8976 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the funny thing. Unlike a lot of white people, I live currently in the hood, the Germantown section of Philadelphia. If none of you guys know it, it ain't too pretty. There are a TON of assholes and a bunch of awesome dudes. Racism isn't the fucking answer, it's assholes being assholes. I wish people would realize this.

However, I've lived all over the city and never walked into a restaurant where there is a sign that says "no spitting on the floor". I'm a bit more racist from living there, but it's shit like that which cements some of my ideas.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She isn't made of glass. Jesus CHRIST! Was she told to get the fuck up and get the fuck out? If so, she gets tossed. Oh well. This looks more like someone not getting her way.

[–]abovemars 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It started because she got her phone out during class.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It usually does. Same thing when I was in high school. However, I'm sure she didn't take her phone out and then immediately have a cop kicking her out of class. I have been in the classroom a million times when this happens. If it's like all the other times, she deserved to be dragged out. She was probably given more than a few options and she chose to stonewall the teacher and then a cop. Fuck that. She broke a rule and then when it came time for consequences, she basically just says "no.....I don't do consequences" and continued to escalate it.

[–]justaquicki 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I heard on a news channel that the teacher told her to get out, but because she refused the teacher called in a higher up and the student still refused. Then is escalated to getting the school cop involved. I think the cop went a little overboard, but she definitely isn't innocent anyway you look at it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. So what people are saying is completely wrong. The YouTube video says it's an "attack". For fucks sake, should they have sent in their smallest officer so they could physically fight it out???? No. You send in the person that can get it done in 30 second or less. She has held up class enough.

[–]Mandoge 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

This isn't a pussy pass. This is assault. I work with students. And the staff I work with is trained to first confront and try to get the student to step down. Speak to the student and try to get them to see that their attitude is not getting them anywhere. To prevent any brushing with the law. Shame on the school administrators for not taking the steps to prevent this. They should be sued.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

We saw...5 seconds of the "incident" before he went hands on. How do we know he wasn't there for 15-20 minutes doing the standard "let's go, you have 2 options, don't make me do this" speech?

[–]Mandoge 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I mean I understand some people are difficult to deal with but from what I see in the video there were no steps taken to try and de-escalate the situation. Like I mentioned before in my workplace we have staff that is trained to approach a student and calm them down. So force won't have to be used. So the student can avoid being in trouble with the law. Who knows what that girl was going through. Maybe she's having problems at home? I'm not saying it's not justified for her to act that way but she's a kid. She's still learned on how to deal and control her emotions.

Edit:Learning.

[–]JokerUndead 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guy in the red just wants to cheat in peace and dis bitch is fucking shit up.

[–]outpRaYed 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The class is so calm, its like they are used to this stuff happening all the time LOL

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My guess...same chick causing the same problems and they're just like "really? Again?"

[–]galacticjihad 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

It's family tradition to resist arrest.

[–]Aware_building10 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder what would have happened if he just started cuffing her. I'm sure she would have went without question. She is so peaceful and probably an A student. Wow, I hope that pig dies of anal cancer. That poor little girl

/s

[–]thebabbster 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Relevant: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/10/30/student-walkout-backs-fired-deputy-sc-school/74874920/

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 10 years ago (55 children) | Copy Link

Hear me out,now this might be a little extreme but just hear me out. How about... you just fucking listen to the authority and be respectful.

[–]brentwilliams2 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

Here's the thing - I don't think people are saying that he shouldn't arrest her. They are arguing about the amount of force he used. And frankly, it is good for the cop to learn new ways of de-escalating a situation, as evidenced by this video. You absolutely never know what is going to happen once things get physical, so that should be the absolute last option for the cops - for their own protection.

[–]Lose__Not__Loose 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cops very rarely deescalate situations.

[–]potehtoes 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's because cops are typically a last resort.

Relatively few situations (especially in school) that require cops can be deescalated

[–]zeny_two 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She hit the cop in the face immediately when he touched her and kept swinging.
check it out
He responded quickly, but it wasn't unwarranted.

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[–]brentwilliams2 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's really my point though - once you begin a physical confrontation, you don't know how it will turn out, so it is best to avoid that and find different ways to handle the situation. Too many cops are not trained in the slightest to do so - their go-to approach is to intimidate to gain compliance.

It really comes down to this: Do people care more about the result or the justification? In other words, if we care about the result, then we hope that all interactions end peacefully to reduce risk to everyone. In this way, it doesn't matter if someone is a dick, we still have the one goal of ending it peacefully, because if we don't, the police officer's life is in more danger. That doesn't mean we don't sometimes have to use violence, but this girl was posing no threat to warrant it. On the flip side, if we care more about the justification, then we say it is ok for the officer to do whatever he was doing because she was being disrespectful. Therefore, the police are justified, which is all we really care about. But with that line of thinking, we have more risk to everyone.

[–][deleted] 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Sully9989 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She most likely wasn't arrested. That was probably a school police officer. He removes her from the class and takes her to the office, not to the station.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

you just fucking listen to the authority and be respectful

You're basically advocating a police state. Cops should not be allowed to assault people just because they didn't follow orders. You realize what kind of country this would be if we just let cops get away with shit like this?

[–]Agent-A 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's laziness all around. The parents are too busy to raise their kids right, so they dump the responsibility on schools. Schools are too lazy to treat kids with dignity and teach them properly, so they reduce freedoms and treat kids like criminals, but with even less agency. Everyone acts surprised when kids act like rebellious little shits. Then we're too lazy to deal with it right, so we call in cops, who are too lazy to de-escalate the situation so it only gets worse.

The public in general is too lazy to tackle these difficult problems so we end up with some silly, easy to tweet positions on complex problems. People pick sides like it's a football match: We should just listen to cops or cops shouldn't use force.

We break it down by race because that's the hot button of the day, but meanwhile parents and schools are failing kids of all colors. Sure, it started first in poor black neighborhoods but once the country saw how easy zero tolerance was, how easy it was to put a police officer on campus, how convenient it is to implement stricter rules and harsher punishments, it spread everywhere.

Plenty of people are willing to place blame here or there, on her or on the cop, sometimes maybe on the teacher. Sure, she should take some responsibility, but I wish more people would recognize that she got failed by a whole lot of people long before she got to that classroom, and there are no simple solutions to that.

[–]InternetSafety101 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

COMPLY OR DIE MOTHERFUCKERS! -Cops

[–]bryanrobh -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah forget listening to the cops. These dumb ass kids watch too much vines and bull shit videos with people disrespecting authority and think it's ok to do.

I bet this butch won't do it again.

[–]superraiden-4 points 10 years ago [recovered] (36 children) | Copy Link

And that's exactly what Nazi officers said

[–]bryanrobh 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

Yeah because asking a kid to leave the classroom is the same as asking the Jew to watch their step as the head into an oven

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link

I'm under the impression that you don't know the context of this story at all. You need to understand that just because someone is being ignorant and not doing what the police say, that does't mean they should be body slammed.

A better situation to compare this to is the civil rights movement. Peaceful protesters being brutally beaten the the police.

[–]bryanrobh -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link

I understand it just fine. But in all reality if the kid would have just got up and left when asked none of this would have happened. There is no peaceful protest going on here just a defiant asshole kid.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

Please don't misunderstand me. I am not saying that this student is in the right but I do believe that if someone is not physically doing anything then they shouldn't be met with physical force.

[–]Th4Freak2 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

if someone is not physically doing anything then they shouldn't be met with physical force.

So if the person won't cooperate, according to you what should be done? Let that person do whatever he/she wants?

[–]Lethal_Papercut3 points 10 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you saying that you know of no other way to get a defiant child out of their chair than to act how the officer did in the video?

[–]Th4Freak0 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm asking for a solution for a person who refuses to move/cooperate.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

This is what the parents are for. These days in school you have to fill out a parent contact form at the beginning of the year. If the student continues to show this kind of behavior then they should be in ISS (In school suspension) or be OSS (Out of school suspension)

[–]Th4Freak0 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

What are parents for? If the kid is a thug/asshole whatever you wanna call it and refuses to move what are the parents going to do? "Assault" her like the officer did? Not to count the fact that her parents are probably at work and the class could finish before they arrive, which would result in both students and the teacher losing their time (and class).

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Calling the parents is better than her gettinng body slammed for sitting in a chair

[–]bryanrobh -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you are right but what should the cop do in this situation? Sure maybe they shouldn't have body slammed her but has to get her out somehow

[–]brentwilliams2 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's hard to know what approaches were used by the cop prior to the video, so we don't really know. But in my experience, if you show someone respect who is not used to getting respect, you will get a much more positive response.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This child's parents should have simply been called. Even if you had her mom on speaker phone that child would have easily gotten up and moved.

[–]bryanrobh -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Possibly and probably not. The kid seemed like a defiant asshole. I don't think the kid would have been scared of her mother over the phone and maybe would have tried to show off for the other kids.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think that you give that kid to much credit. I'd say that's better than her getting body slammed.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I've seen teachers handle this EXACT situation several times, the most "violent" it got was when one of my teachers just dragged the student's desk (with him in it) outside without touching him.

[–]bryanrobh -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well maybe the cop just wouldn't put up with the disrespect and lost his cool

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then she shouldn't be given a weapon and authority if he can't even handle a child being mean to him.

[–]howmuchisdis -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How dare you, this is Reddit. The land of anti cop neckbearded SJW's. Respecting authority will not be tolerated here.

[–]Baalinooo 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

This is fucked up; there was no PPD, just a violent cop.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You play stupid games you win stupid prizes.

[–]Chieffartsandlaughs 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just to point out to some of the people on here, he didn't body slam her. He didn't hit her. He flipped her in the desk which caused her to fall out of it, then he slid her across the carpet away from the desk and handcuffed her. I don't know if people on here have ever experienced sling from a desk but I assure you, it doesn't hurt all that bad. Neither does it hurt to be slid across a carpet in clothes. The only pain she received was the blow to her ego. But yes, a fall does look violent when your feet go over your head and you hear the crash of a desk on the ground.

[–]Running_Noodles 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How is this pussypassdenied?

•She wasn't claiming since she was a girl she didn't have to leave.

•She wasn't "asking for it" by initiating contact.

•And this cop should be ashamed. There is nothing that you can say to me to make me do that to someone half my size and less than half my strength.

/r/shitpost

[–]ninjoe87 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ITT: Pussy Pass Denied vs. "Fuck Da Police"

[–]Gyissan 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is good.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She didn't learn anything from the teacher, but the cop sure taught her a lesson.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Bitch was playing with fire, but that RKO though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OUTA NOWHERE!

[–]ozman69 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks to me when she wouldn't get up and he started to make her get up, she started fighting back. Then as she fought SHE pushed her feet up which caused the chair to fall backwards and then she began flailing her legs around like some kind of idiot, which forced him to escalate it and get her out of the chair and onto the floor. So, to me at least, the majority of the hostility was coming from her, not him.

[–]JurassicParkss4 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Resist arrest. Get fucking choked and slammed. Same thing would happen to a male student. I see this as equality in action.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you ever give that guy his pizza and a six-pack?

[–]Lemonr 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Uh, wrong sub... This is a video of assault, with no context.

[–]kellast -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wrong, there is another video from another angle where you see the female elbow the officer first clearly assaulting him first.

[–]youdonotnome 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

this comment section is vile. dont do it

[–]Moveover33 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If the school didn't want someone to get physical with the useless wildebeest, why did they call them? Did they expect the cop to engage in some type of Socratic dialogue with the damn fool student? Do blacks study anything other than victimology nowadays?

[–]Tqbfjotlds1 points 10 years ago [recovered] (14 children) | Copy Link

This is so fucked up. Teachers are not allowed to discipline kids or lay a hand on them. Yet they can call the police to do the same thing.

[–]MyNudePepPep 33 points34 points35 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You must not have gone to school where this sort of thing is common. I have and I never saw a single instance of a teacher striking a student but I have seen plenty of the opposite. I have also been harassed by plenty of shitty resource officers, but I was smart enough to recognize they, and their threats of force, were necessary.

[–]Tqbfjotlds12 points 10 years ago [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

I meant, what is ridiculous, is the notion that teachers cannot discipline children, so the schools have to call the police in to do the same thing. As a society, we need to accept that children sometimes behave badly and need to be disciplined.

I grew up in schools where the teachers could punish kids when they misbehaved - and I agree, some kids really deserve it. The reason kids act out so badly nowadays, is that the schools cannot punish kids when they misbehave.

[–]thatthingyoudid 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Political correctness caused this. Likely at least partially the reason the child doesn't leave and completely the reason the police are required to step in because the teacher has been prohibited from doing so.

Political correctness is destroying American society.

[–]MyNudePepPep 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Kids always acted out and always will. Shit kids grow up to be shit adults, often, but it is amazing what a good asswhooping will do for many of them.

You'd need police officers regardless because some teachers cannot discipline their children. I have seen elderly female teachers assaulted by 6+" tall student athletes. The amazing thing was that their friends didn't ostracize then for assaulting an old woman... That's when you know the culture is completely fucked.

[–]lildozer74 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

great comment. sad world nowadays.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And what do you think would happen if the teacher tried to physically remove her you idiot? That teacher would have gotten the same social justice shit storm thrown at him/her too!
Please, use some common sense you prick.

[–]the69thply -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know if you noticed but that's a cop

[–]sosorrynoname 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's what happens to ratchets.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is assault, she wasn't playing the female card she was just being defiant

[–]sm753 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

For all the people screaming about excessive force. There are multiple videos of this incident circling around the internet. One of the ones taken from a closer distance from a slightly different angle. In that video you can see the officer try and get her out of the desk - he puts his right hand on her shoulder and his left hand under her leg to try and lift her up - just like you see in this video. In the other video, you see her KICK her legs upwards when the officer tries to left her up, if you know anything about physics, the officer lifting her up, and HER kicking her legs up caused the desk to flip the way it did.

TL;DR - she caused the desk to flip backwards, not the officer, he was just attempting to pull/lift her up.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly what I saw, the cop didn't flip her over. But to all the crazy people this is assault and extremely violent

[–]razezero1 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit this thread is so salty I'm forming a kidney stone!

[–]Wobbly_Red_Snappa 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get fucked you stupid ratchet bitch.

This is some real caveman shit. He threw her around like a rag doll LMAO. Next time don't cause so much trouble and you wont get beat up

[–]Lethal_Papercut1 points 10 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

ITT: Americans who are indoctrinated to the idea that cops can do what the fuck they like to you, usually violence.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, that mentality is absolutely nuts.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And these idiot, self entitled kids refuse to listen to authority. Were they suppose to let her go by her own rules? Rules are rules, since when do we let kids break the rules. She was told numerous times to leave. You sir, are absolutely insane if you don't see that she was refusing to leave.

[–]brentwilliams2 -4 points-3 points-2 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, it's really crazy that people who see the video think this is a reasonable amount of force.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hes pulling her out of her chair and she starts flailing around and topples over. Yes that completely reasonable force for an arrest.

[–]Dre063 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well the FBI is investigated "officer" Ben Fields. He's had a history of being a cunt. Looks like his pussy pass was denied.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To all you bleeding hearts in this comment section. Yeah, let's tiptoe around this disobedient child. Until your kid is in that classroom trying to learn. Then come back and tell me what you would like to be done. Yes, she should be getting counseling for her anger toward authority figures...but until she does...do what you are instructed to do or get out.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But she din du nuthin

[–]twofaze -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That was totally uncalled for. I had heard about this video and the description did not prepare me for the visual. Not surprised by some of the reactions posted here and around the internet. Minorities are subhuman in some people's eyes. This man could have broken her neck flipping and slamming her in the desk like that. Disgusting.

[–]leftajar 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Dear Black people,

If are compliant and don't act like an asshole, you probably won't encounter police brutality.

[–]xProperlyBakedx 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tell that to Tamir Rice or John Crawford. Neither broke a law, and weren't even given a chance to comply, they were just shot on sight. Cops are the problem, not black people

[–]VanceAstrooooooovic 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://wgnplus.com/2015/10/29/mans-facebook-post-about-traffic-stop-goes-viral/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_WGN_Radio

[–]HublotKingCole 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

that's right. 100% of those assaults/murders they were asking for it

[–]leftajar 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

straw man, hyperbole. try again.

[–]hubieftw 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

I'm all for grabbing my pitchfork against police brutality but I don't see it in this one. He needed to get the girl out of the chair to arrest her and she was resisting. He did what he needed to do, and was a little rough in doing it, but if you're resisting arrest you should expect cops to get a little rough and rightfully so. I don't get where all the outrage is coming from here

Think about it. If you had to get someone out from sitting in one of those desk/chairs and they didn't want to get out, how exactly would you do it? It would be extremely difficult to do

[–]texture -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He needed to get the girl out of the chair to arrest her and she was resisting.

Why is a cop arresting girls in school? It's so normal to have police in school in 2015 that we just completely ignore the context?

[–]AdziiMate 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's more common than you would think. She was told to leave by the teacher and then a higher up (principal?) and refused both, so the school cop was brought in to force her to leave. She refused. and then she got made to leave.

[–]abovemars -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I didn't realize you can arrest people for getting their phone out in class

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just don't go to this post, everyone will assume you worship abuse

[–]UltramegasaurusMy cunt reeks of glory 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Love how the others in the room give no fuck

[–]youdonotnome 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

dude it's probably a school for kids that are in big trouble already

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Her classmate recounted the event http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/spring-valley-high-school-officer-tackled-teen-phone-article-1.2412665?utm_content=buffer31f24&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw

[–]aknightcalledfrog 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got chewed the fuck out here for suggesting that it was the school's responsibility to deal with bad behaviour, and that this interaction will colour every relationship with an authority figure from here on out. What she did initially wasn't a crime (and I'd argue the reaction to her resistance was grossly disproportional). Plus there was a load of racism in the thread, which is always nice to see...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I want two new Heros for Dota.

The Girl

And the Cameraman!

They're pretty weak on their own, but they are AWESOME together. With a super effective combo.

The standard stun of Cameraman would be to take a "picture" of someone. This freezes him for 1 - 2 - 2.5 and 3 seconds. Depending on Level.

Now: If the Cameraman takes a picture of an enemy that is in that moment, when the picture is taken, hurting "the girl", that's social instant-kill for him. And no other of his teammates can help him for the next 3 Minutes. Because of the shaming.

[–]Alpha100f 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Less of pussy pass, more of an Age pass, I think.

[–]lordaloa 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this is a little bit too much I mean it is just a little kid for christ sake she doesn't know better

[–]thelotusknyte 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Uhhh.

[–]Teqnique_757 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Regardless of what the situation is here. The officer should not have gotten involved. She committed no crimes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The cop doesnt act very professional.

[–]Chamba94 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love the part where it does not show how she spat and punched him in the face before everything.

[–]fooreddit[🍰] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unneccessary violence in school. Way to go America.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link

/r/mildlyinfuriating

holy shit that is way too fucking aggressive. I don't think context even matters here. What could she have ever possibly been doing that would warrant him literally forcing her out of the chair and throwing her on the ground when she wasn't even fighting back?!! I can't think of a single scenario where this is okay. This isn't even pussypass, this is some jackass asserting more power than he's supposed to have.

[–]AdziiMate -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

You're an idiot.

She was resisting arrest. Refusing orders, when the cop grabbed her to get her out of the desk, she hit him in the face, and then arched her back and made her desk flip over. He then dragged her away from it and cuffed her.

Nice over-reaction you've got there.

[–]dungeoneeritems2 points 10 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

I hate how much bad press this is getting. You don't know what happened before. EVERYONE in the class is calm and doesn't react which means she was a cunt or THEY deemed it was appropriate force considering they were they the whole time. She BARELY got out of the chair even with that amount of force so how is it "unnecessary"? It seemed like the appropriate amount of force. She injured herself by resisting arrest.

[–]abovemars 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No one reacted because the cop is well known in the school. He had a lawsuit filed against him in 2014 for discriminating vs blacks. And hes also the power lifting coach and can squat 940 lbs. I sure as hell wouldn't want to get involved, and then get my shit pushed in and thrown in jail. A classmate was arrested for being "distraught"

[–]Dontblameme1 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Saw this on /r/badcopnodonut and it honestly belongs on there more.

[–]flowgod 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm all for a pass denial, but this isn't it. This is straight up assault, and that cop should be arrested.

[–]Cyrino420 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

This is exactly what should happen to kids that keep other kids from learning. He asked her to get us and she refused. Was he supposed to say pretty please?

[–]Diluxx 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

Id imagine there is some middle ground between saying pretty please and violently somersaulting her out of the desk.

[–]s0v3r1gn 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It looks more like she caused the desk to flip, not the officer. He was lifting her, and like a bratty child throwing a temper tantrum she arched her back to resist being picked up. This resulted in her desk flipping, at that point she would be lucky not to her face broken for being a little worthless piece of shit.

[–]Cyrino420 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Typical black teenager disrespecting law enforcement and then wants to cry victim instead of owning up to the fact that she disrespected her teacher and fellow students.

[–]Diluxx -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Don't be stupid there is nothing typical about her behavior regardless of her race, for every kid instigating a confrontation in a classroom there are a dozen children of any number of races and religions that are at school to learn and do what they are supposed to do. Clearly she instigated this thats not in doubt but you don't think maybe there were other options besides body slamming a ninety pound girl to the ground?

[–]AdziiMate 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You realise when he grabbed her she hit him in the face right? He didn't body slam her, she flipped her own desk and he dragged her away from it.

[–]Diluxx 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Is there a gas leak in here or something? He clearly levers her backwards, she grabs the desk to stop herself being pulled from it and he knowingly decides to keep on levering her it doesn't take a physicist to know what will happen next. This is a child and a female to top it off against a fully grown man clearly in his prime years and he cant handle her without slinging her to the ground? I like pussy pass denied but wow is this community full of creeps sometimes.

[–]AdziiMate 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Of course she's going to stop herself from being pulled from the desk, thats the whole reason she fell backwards in the first place, because she was resisting.

She flailed around, and assaulted the officer (heres the video of that https://twitter.com/HIFTBABG/status/658849452552290309) when he attempted to grab her and pull her from her desk to remove her forcefully, as was his job to do so.

Dont know how you figure i'm being a creep when i was just stating the facts. She was being unruly, and not following orders to leave to the point that the police were called to remove her, and then she didnt listen to the police and then assaulted him! As far as i'm concerned she deserved everything she got for being a cunt.

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[–]Diluxx 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you blind she doesn't knock the desk over herself he has her pants leg which he uses to lever her over to the ground when he gets hit by her. He does this as an angry reaction to being hit not because its necessary to restrain a child, the guy is an idiot and I'm sure hes being told as much by his C/O. And whether she deserved it or not isn't the point,its not the polices job to mete out just deserts its their job to restrain a suspect with reasonable force and this shit was not reasonable at all.

[–]AdziiMate 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying she knocked it over herself. I'm saying the whole reason she fell backwards is because she resisted him grabbing her from her desk and was flailing around.

Pretty sure if you assault a police officer, no matter who it is, they will get very angry. I'm not sure how being assaulted by an unruly teenager and then using semi-reasonable force makes him an "idiot". He was restraining her. She refused to leave her desk, so she was made to leave her desk by whatever force the officer deemed necessary. People in this thread are acting like he pulled out a taser and shot her 5 times. He picked her up, dragged her across the room and cuffed her.

She's not in hospital, being treated for head wounds or unconcious or probably even sore after that. Even if she was sore it would be bloody well deserved. Unreasonable force would be a taser, a night stick or a gun. Forcefully and physically removing someone from where they are being unruly and unresponsive is not.

Just like if a police officer asks you to get out of your car for good reason, he can physically remove you after asking you verbally.

[–]Cyrino420 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You think if he would have grab her and said "get up" she wasn't going to put up a physical fight?

[–]texture 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Cops should come into the classroom and assault them?

[–]Cyrino420 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

When a person doesn't follow police orders this happens. He could have tased her to protect himself from any fight she was about to put up. Teens like this don't need to be in a class with other kids.

[–]texture 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The police don't need to be in schools. What about that is not obvious?

[–]Cyrino420 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Most schools have a resource officer. They handle escalated situations like this and drugs,weapons, etc. A teacher shouldn't have to police this asshole kids.

[–]texture 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You don't seem to understand what police are for, or what schools are for.

[–]Cyrino420 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So a teacher should handle violent students?

[–]texture 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So a teacher should handle violent students?

Police were put into schools after the mass shootings. Not to police daily student behavior. If you can't remember a time when police officers weren't on school campuses I can understand your confusion. But they're not there to manhandle students who won't listen.

[–]Cyrino420 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I graduated highschool in 2001. My school was an nice mostly white school and we have a resource officer. So I don't know where you're getting your information.

[–]texture 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So I don't know where you're getting your information.

I graduated high school in 2000, and distinctly remember when officers were put into schools. It was after the Littleton shooting in '99.

[–]holycrapolaness 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Here's more on the story for those of you who're interested. Looks like the cop's in trouble now ...

[–]carlbandit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fucking american news. Why the emphasis on the fact he is white and she is black. They also put emphasis on the fact she is female.

She is being a little bitch, he goes to remove her, she hits him in the face and pushes with her legs, flipping the chair. At this point, he just wants the arrest over with quickly and without risk to himself or others, so he pulls her away from the chair and to an open space.

[–]HublotKingCole 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lmao. mad as fuck

[–]Confle 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feel sorry for the cop... Though

[–]Evil_Cushion -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/video-cop-violently-attacks-peaceful-high-school-girl-sits-desk/#L4wQxHdwv3leSL0j.16

Cop violently attacks peaceful highschool girl. smh at this white knight news site

[+]PsychedelicKyle -27 points-26 points-25 points 10 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

No. This is fucked up.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

[–]ItsOnlyTheTruth 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You have no idea what the context of this short clip is. You have no idea what that girl is under arrest for, and no concept of how to arrest someone who refuses to cooperate.

[–]brentwilliams2 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

You don't either. But apparently you think it is reasonable to body slam someone right away when they don't comply.

Edit: Ok, technically not a body slam - just throwing someone across the room. As if that makes a difference...

[–]GuyAboveIsStupid 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

right away when they don't comply

Yup, people are known to comply when you ask a second time.

[–]brentwilliams2 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you see the volume of overly aggressive tactics from other developed countries? Nope. Because they are trained in other ways to obtain compliance. It is a ridiculous argument to say that since she didn't immediately comply, it is reasonable to do just about anything to get her to comply. There are other strategies to gain compliance without a physical altercation that could easily escalate the situation. What if the other kids hadn't sat there quietly? What if they came to her "aid"? Then you have a much bigger problem where the officer might feel his life is in danger, and he might feel the need to use deadly force. That's not an unrealistic progression of events. That means that by using excessive force, the officer has actually increased the risk to himself.

[–]ninjoe87 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where do you see a body slam?

[–]ItsOnlyTheTruth -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He could have been standing there for an hour and asked her a thousand times before this clip.

[–]harrys11 -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree, but I guess I'm a minority. She didn't seem to be physically aggressive, I don't know that she needed to be thrown around like that. Whenever anything similar shows up on the internet, an alteration between a teacher and a student, 9 times out of 10, the student is to blame, no one seems to be considering the age difference and the fact that shit like this will not address the problem here, which is her attitude, it's just more likely to make her even more aggressive. You can't treat people like dogs. I can imagine how overwhelming it must be for a teacher to try to control a class of 30 people, I was in one few years ago as were most of the people here, but I seem to remember a handful of teachers whose class harmony wasn't easily disrupted, point being, many teachers just suck at their job.

[–]ninjoe87 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you watch the gif closely, the reason she fell was because she was resisting, she lurched backwards in the desk, the cop did not throw her down from there. You can see her legs kick up and forward as she pushes back off the cop and that's when she goes backwards.

[+]aknightcalledfrog -9 points-8 points-7 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Call the parents. Punish her. No cop should be called into a school for somebody being disobedient, because this is what happens. Heck, I've said and done some stupid shit while at school, much worse than this girl, but my school and my parents dealt with it.

[–]gryts 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some schools are different and don't really give a shit.

[–]ninjoe87 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Two questions for you.

  1. Why do you assume that she didn't break a law, despite the fact that there is an officer present?

  2. Why do you assume that the parents have any viable way of controlling the "child"? Or that this "kid" even has parents to call?

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Look here is my issue, I'm from Europe living in America. I remember when my kid started middle school and I went to the open house. First thing I seen was a cop car. I asked my kids mother, what's which the Cop car? Out reach or some shit like that? Nope she said, school always has a cop present.

This blew my fucking mind. Cops in schools, WTF? I could not get my head around this.

Several thoughts come to mind.

  1. Is America's school system so fucked up that a cop / police office needs to be present each and every day.

  2. No cops present when I was schooled back in Europe, The "Christian" Brothers taught us, 30-35 students all male in a class.

  3. When a student misbehaved, if the teacher could not solve the issue, the headmaster would and parents would be called.

  4. I've seen teachers beat the shit out of kids for messing ect... Never a cop beating a kid.

The cop in this video is a prize fucking cowardly prick. A cop has no place in a school, let alone dealing with a school issue. Oh yes, people will say she was running her mouth, not a fucking crime the last I looked.

Is America so fucked up that this is what happens to kids who act out? No crime was commited therefore no need for a cop to be present doing his thing.

It's fucking disgusting and a sign of how fucked up this country really is.

[–]Xanderab3 points 10 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe if 100+ schools weren't shot up per year there wouldn't be a need for them

[–]AugurAuger 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word.

[–]Phy1on 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

School systems can change within a decade man, also the usually not every school has a damn cop in them.

[–]squirtmasterd -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Cool police brutality but the victims female so it's funny.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oooooooooooh man. If your gonna do the "You aint the boss of me" thing, you need to be waaaaaaaay bigger.

[–]denart4 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Can't wait for the POLICE BRUTALITY and RACISM comments...

scrolls down.. oh okay

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

this whole comment section is filled with racism, misogyny, and hateful people in general. fucking gross

[–]SAD_FACED_CLOWN -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Her pass was granted. This douche lord was fired.

[+]BrotyKraut -6 points-5 points-4 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Little shit no doubt deserved it.

[–]abovemars 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that cop is totally in the right for beating the shit out of a girl for sending a text message.

[–]BrotyKraut -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

When's the last time you were in a high school classroom? Kids are disrespectful as fuck.

[–]abovemars 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

5 years ago and yeah i know they are, but some guy that squats 940 shouldn't be slamming a teenager onto the ground because she was texting in class and refusing to get out of her chair.

But it seems a lot of people in this country believe in a culture of beating their kids for not following their every order, so no point in arguing.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't see why you're being downvoted but you're right, high school teens think they can do whatever they want.

[–]NotAKiddieDiddler 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Youre disrespectful as fuck too. Does that mean you're a kid?

[–]InternetSafety101 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh damn! We Better beat the shit out of them.

[–]BrotyKraut -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Only way some of them will ever learn. No punches were thrown here so I wouldn't call it a beating...more like a wrangling.

[–][deleted] 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

ITT: racist people from /r/TheRedPill

[–]GizmosArrow -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is all over the morning news. From what I understand, she was asked to leave by the teacher, then the principle, then, after refusing both, the officer was called in. He's treating her like an adult criminal, definitely being forceful, but at what point is forced allowed? She wasn't listening to any authority figures.

[–]dendaddy -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The cop has been suspended.

[–]Sully9989 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I had to call security 3 times today. For one class period.

[–]joey_diaz_wings 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, but you were probably enriched by diversity.

Diversity is our strength!

[–]Sully9989 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha these black girls were in the back saying I was racist and only going after black kids. The kids I had removed were, in this order, white, Hispanic, black.

[–]z960849 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The cop is the real pussy

[–]kellast -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why for doing his job?

[–]z960849 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why he got fired. The dumbass need to learn how deesculate a situation not the opposite.

[–]fptp01 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what the cop or teacher should have done is drag the desk out of the class not body slam her like that.

[–]filthgrinder -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is not pussypassdenied. It's a very disturbed police officer and police violence.

http://www.wltx.com/story/news/local/2015/10/26/spring-valley-high-school-incident/74645568/

The office is assigned to the school and apparently abused the teens a lot.

[–]farkenell 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

having an officer assigned to the school doesn't speak much for the school...

[–]filthgrinder 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most schools in USA have an officer assigned to the school. They may not be at the school 100% of the time, but they are responsible to respond if needed.

[–]treytable -3 points-2 points-1 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

GTFO BITCH! Lolololol

[+]thebabbster -6 points-5 points-4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dat bodyslam, doe.

[–]adrianjherman -5 points-4 points-3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why in the world do people keep calling her a child? She is not in primary school. She is definitely immature of mind but not body. That's about the age where humans in our society think they can challenge those who are older. There is injustice and then there is society just being soft.

[–]faithle55 -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hard not to think that there were better ways.

If I was the teacher I'd rather take the whole class somewhere else and leave the silly cow to feel stupid sitting on her own.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's stupid, so everyone else has to leave the classroom because one idiot doesn't want to.

[–]faithle55 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's another way of looking at it, yes.

Perhaps she should have just been shot?

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