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June 17, 2015
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Date June 17, 2015 10:10 PM UTC
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[–]TheRiverRunsRed 409 points410 points411 points 11 years ago (95 children) | Copy Link

This happened in 2009 in Lincoln, Rhode Island at a casino, Twin River. The officers name is Edward Krawetz and he lost his job and was convicted of felony assault. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison but didn't serve any time.

In 2012 he petitioned to get his job back but if I remember right he never showed up to the hearing.

It was huge news here when it happened. So many people wrote letters to the police chief demanding he not be rehired.

BTW, the women was in custody for being drunk and unruly, refusing to leave the casino.

[–]SkoobyDoo 321 points322 points323 points 11 years ago (47 children) | Copy Link

I want to just say that it was her fault for instigating it, but I think it's more important for LEO to not abuse people who are restrained.

[–][deleted] 408 points409 points410 points 11 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link

He chose to be a police officer. With that comes an inherent level of personal retsraint. He was wrong because he is supposed to be the professional. You lock the drunk up and go home to your family. You don't engage, you don't instigate, you don't react beyond personal protection. You don't teach people lessons, or pass your judgement. You uphold the law, outside of that you are wrong. You use only the amount of force necessary to control the situation. If you can't take the high road everyday then don't be a police officer. She is not a professional, she is a drunk and what she did is expected behavior. He is wrong because he is trained, and he didn't refer to his training. There is no second chances for professionals. If you can't accept that then do something else.

[–]SkoobyDoo 343 points344 points345 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

you pretty much said what i said in 5 times as many lines

[–]thinkweis 97 points98 points99 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I think /u/SkoobyDoo is pointing out that what /u/PabstBlueRibbobSmear just said conveys the same message. Your message, while being very similar in the actual message, was much longer and more detailed. While some people may appreciate that amount of detail, others will not, and would prefer shorter messages. The ratio of the response to the first message was approximately 5:1, which of course is makes the original message about 20% as long as the response. If the response comment was 1 dollar in length, the original was around two dimes, or 4 nickels, but /u/SkoobyDoo is saying they have approximately the same value. So the money analogy can really only be applied to the length of the comment, and not the comments inherit value.

[–]Teresa_Count 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of redditors forget that brevity is the soul of

[–]joemerlot -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

See what you did there. :)

[–]Gushin_Granny_4u9 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Details never hurt. TL;DRs are fine too. I like having both

[–]sapo9165 points 11 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Your statement was a Nissan leaf, his was a Tesla Model S

[–]GangnamStylin -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This analogy does not work at all

[–]9000_red 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A horse is like a man. If a horse is good, is like if a man is good.

[–]greenshrubbery -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This toast is like jelly. If it peanut butters it's friends, it's family would be margarine.

[–]CookieDunk 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

6.25 times more to be exact on the app and 5 times more in a browser.

[–]junseth -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Your statement was like no fault insurance.

[–]CookieDunk -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

6.25 times more to be exact.

[–]bigtfatty 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He is wrong because he is trained

Drives me crazy when people compare the behavior of cops to behavior of drunkards or criminals...is the standard for cop behavior so low they're all in the same group now?

[–]vmlinux 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She deserved to get kicked in the head for assaulting someone, and the PO deserved to get fired, and maybe prosecuted. Thank fucking god we don't all get what we deserve. You are absolutely right, the police officer showed a lack of restraint. It's not the polices job to "give us what we deserve", it's the polices job to make sure the court system can give us what we deserve, whether that be innocent or guilty. If that cop had done nothing in that situation other than perhaps restrain her legs then she could have been prosecuted for assaulting a police officer.

[–]Lose__Not__Loose 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"A lack of restraint" is a phrase reserved only for police. If I were to have done that to a handcuffed person that phrase would not be used.

[–]3randy3lue 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You summed it up perfectly.

[+]Icanus -7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Cops are humans too

[–]NavyAirVetHerbalist 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a difference. A big one. With ANY Job come perameters and one of the biggest is guarding your temper in a drunk situation.

We don't know what triggered her to try to do a ground sweep from the ground with no shoes on and the unequal position of having her hands cuffed behind her back, much less the fact that it overbalanced her entire body and, if she tipped over, that she wouldn't be able to stop herself from crashing her face into curb or pavement.

But he didn't hold back at all. THAT was a BULLY Move, one he's done before to others, only this time he got caught.

And no matter how much I'm a sailor who fights for equal rights and responsibilities, you can't KICK a women or anyone upside the head without causing traumatic injury.

[–]slingerg 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And what do we do with humans who break the law?

[–]gyro-robo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And those humans chose a job with great responsibility which they must uphold

[–]TheRiverRunsRed -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

" There is no second chances for professionals."

For this guy, there was. He had another on duty assault on his record plus an off duty simple assault charge.

[+]Securitybob -21 points-20 points-19 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

If you can't take the high road everyday then don't be a police officer.

there it is. act like a fucking robot or go work mall security. cops are just as emotional and fallible as any other person.

YEAH he was wrong. but fuck if anyone wouldn't be mad enough after personally being hit like that. It wasn't the job that was hit, it wasn't the uniform or the public. It was himself. assaulted at a personal level by some drunk cunt.

[–]Parade_Precipitation 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

whoosh...

you dont get it at all.

him not being able to control his emotions is EXACTLY the problem here.

reasons for your behavior are not excuses for your behavior.

people that have ridiculous amounts of power over their fellow human beings DO NOT get to have temper tantrums on the job.

its not about NOT having emotions like a robot.

its about being a RATIONAL person and controlling your emotions because you have too much power to do otherwise.

if you're too much of a pussy to shrug off a little kick like that, you're a horrible choice for a cop

[–]Securitybob -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

people cant have bad days?

[–]slingerg 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If their bad day involves doling out punishment outside the confines of the law while wearing a police uniform, then you get punished.

[–]Securitybob 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i think i was making the wrong point.

he shouldn't have kicked her as a law enforcement officer.

bitch still had it coming.

[–]slingerg 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with all 3 points.

[–]Parade_Precipitation 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

what an idiot.

y'know i guess that guy that just shot up that church down south was having a bad day.

lol, fucking imbecile

[–]Securitybob 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

your right, he shouldn't have kicked her as a law enforcement officer.

bitch still had it coming.

[–]TheDudeWhoKnocks 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

(Weakly) Kicked in the leg by a drunk handcuffed hag... I'd just write her up for assaulting an officer... Yeah yeah I'm just a keyboard warrior

[–]TheWiredWorld -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"there is no second chances for professionals"

This strikes home as a professional drummer. Couldn't be closer to the truth.

[–]Bobknows2727 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Both of them are in the wrong.

[–]Cross_of_Coronado 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, as much as I love myself a good pussypassdenied, this reaction was too much. You can't just KICK someone in the head. However she should have been less agressive. Kicking a cop is never a good idea. But still - Kicking someone in the head. Nah, that's going too far.

[–]TheLewdFlash1 point 2 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Pathetic opinion

[–]spiralnotebook1123 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, yes. That's not even sort of okay. If you have a job like that the entire purpose is to train to be strong so you don't need to use force. Part of being strong means training your reflexes, your psychological bearing, and your habitual reactions to situations exactly like that. He kicked her in the HEAD. There is contempt in that response. If anyone deserves anything, he as a police officer deserves what he got. I'm glad something actually did happen to him. Sad.

[–]Jramey97 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're just mad because you didn't get gold

[–]SkoobyDoo -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know if your comment predates it, but my next comment down actually got gilded. not sure why.

[–]Brobi_WanKenobiWatch out for my lightsaber -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Before Reddit LEO were just O

[–]Lose__Not__Loose -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I think our defintion of "at fault" is different. If I flick you're ear, I'm an asshole. If you beat the shit out of me in retaliation, you're a criminal. If I intentionally, lightly bump your car with mine and you slam into me as hard as you can as retaliation, you're a criminal. This cop is a criminal and at fault.

Edit: I deal with drunks everyday. Some have tried to physically assault me. Never once have I needed to lay hands on them aside from a slight shove. Drunks are insanely easy to avoid and pretty terrible at landing blows. I've never had to deal with one in handcuffs but I assume it's a lot easier to deal with.

[–]SkoobyDoo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't use the phrase "at fault" so my definition of it isn't in question here.

My only point in commenting was saying that while my knee-jerk reaction is to say she got what was coming to her for being an idiot, it's more important that we hold our LEO to a higher standard of conduct. It seems you, too, have managed to say what I said in even more words.

[–]Dustinfl 18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

its his fucking job to uphold the law, not break it when he decides its necessary...

[–]cheezy88 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Looks to me like it was almost a "knee-jerk" reaction.

[–]spank859 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It probably was but someone who is allowed to carry a gun and use deadly force if necessary is supposed to be better than that. If someone pops off a cap gun a knee jerk reaction would be to shoot them. We expect highly trained people to think before they act.

[–]Jesus390 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Watch some of those police training videos. They show mangled corpses of officers who let someone with a knife get too close or didnt shoot quick enough. Shits horrifying.

[–]cheezy88 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well thinking from the cops point of view.... Their job is crazy with the crap they put up with and their safety is a priority. I kind of feel bad for him honestly.

[–]spank859 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think their safety is the priority. I think civilian safety is the priority with the cops safety being a close second. I meant they have billy clubs, mace, guns and are wearing a bulletproof vest. I know they put up with a lot of crazies and I feel for any officer harmed in the line of duty, but it seems it is more and more common for cops to resort to deadly force first. I don't feel one bit sorry for him. He kicked a handcuffed civilian in the face. It shows a total lack of self-control and I'm happy he lost his job because his next incident could be someone's execution.

[–]SSJ4MajinGogetenks -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This deserves more uplikes

[–]ThisVersionOfMyself 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

the funny thing is as much as im against police brutality ESPECIALLY when somebody is already cuffed, i look at that gif and think, huh, if only he had hit her in the shoulder

[–]tomdarch 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

But he didn't. He landed a solid kick to the head, which could have been fatal, paralyzing or caused brain damage. I think most reasonable people are willing to cut police a fair amount of slack when a drunk, disorderly person kicks them (like you say, by kicking her in the thigh or shoulder - not technically OK, but not OMG! freakout inducing), but kicking a prone, handcuffed incapacitated person in the head is too far.

[–]RedMist_AU 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

She is sitting. Sitting is not prone.

[–]Lose__Not__Loose 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Soooo, judging by your downvote, you still don't know what prone means?

[–]RedMist_AU 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Either "likely to suffer from" or lying down on your stomach. Lying on your back is supine and sitting is sitting. Idk wtf you think prone means.

[–]Lose__Not__Loose -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ok, I'm going to reference the OED . Hopefully you're not a tumblrtard.

Likely to or liable to suffer from, do, or experience something, typically something regrettable or unwelcome:

I, personally, think that the word generally means being in a helples state. This woman was in a helpless state. Argue semantics all you want, you can't argue against that.

Do you believe that the "officer" was likely to be harmed by this woman? Do you believe that kicking her in the face was a logical solution to some drunk bitch?

[–]dailyapple 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He is right, by the way. If someone says "I am prone to ___" they're using the definition you posted. If a person is described as prone, it is assumed they are lying prone, the position of being flat on the ground on their stomach.

Kind of how you can say "he is subject to bouts of depression", but you can't describe someone as just being "subject" and try to use the same definition.

[–]emotionalboys2001 -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She is handcuffed and sitting down, I'd definitely say she was prone. I think you are thinking about prone as in face down lying on the ground.

[–]Lose__Not__Loose -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't know what prone means, neither do many on this sub.

[–]slingerg0 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

What do you think prone means?

[–]emotionalboys2001 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://i.imgur.com/LRufQmU.png'

You're thinking of the wrong definition

[+]randomguy015 -35 points-34 points-33 points 11 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

.

[–]IamAOurangOutang 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

No, I'm all for hitting back, but death is not an equal punishment for a drunken kick while handcuffed.

[+]randomguy015 -12 points-11 points-10 points 11 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

.

[–]IamAOurangOutang 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She didn't but a steel toed boot to the head while handcuffed can easily kill someone.

[+]randomguy015 -11 points-10 points-9 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

.

[–]IamAOurangOutang 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People have fallen from 33,333 ft (Vesna Vulovic) and not died, doesn't mean there isn't a very high chance of death. Same with this, she might not have died, but there is a very high chance of significant brain damage or death from that kick.

[–]Cardboardboxkid 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

She didn't but very easily could have. This dude is supposed to be a professional. She is sitting and drunk. I highly doubt that kick even hurt him that much. If he can't contain himself enough to NOT KICK a restrained drunk female when she lashes out then he shouldn't be a cop. I restrained myself better then that as a circle k employee. I had worse drunks then that come through.

[+]randomguy015 -13 points-12 points-11 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Cardboardboxkid 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Eh. You are useless to talk to.

[–]randomguy015 -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]TheWiredWorld 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What an internet tough guy!

[–]J-roddy -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

hes not Ryu it was a light kick not a earth shattering one.

[–]OneSoggyBiscuitDA REAL LIMP BIZKIT 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He knocked her out with a kick, that's anything but light.

[–]Squez360 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He should have shot her out of self defense.

[–]ThisVersionOfMyself 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's comin' right for us!

[–]CuddleMyNeckbeard 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He did right kicking her back.

[–]JustKeepsHappening 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Hopefully she learnt a lesson about assaulting other people.

[–]I_hate_alot_a_lot 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He would have been better off flipping her over, and doing the knee-in-the-neck thing, and put a taser to her back. It would have hurt more and been in the scope of legality.

[+]dardanmm -7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Deserved it. She's a pos but he's a bigger pos.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]TheRiverRunsRed 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I think there was a deal. No charges for you if you don't sue the town type of thing.

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[–]TheRiverRunsRed 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Being kicked in the head. Police brutality. The local media was all over that from the beginning.

[+]ElDiablo666 -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He should have been executed for it.

[–]_BlueBomber_-3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Good by the people of Lincoln, RI to write to the chief. It was a totally unneccesary and unacceptable overreaction by the officer in this case.

[–]TheRiverRunsRed -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It wasn't just Lincoln. The whole state did it. We are a small state, but don't mess with us, we band together quickly.

[–]MakDak 493 points494 points495 points 11 years ago* (91 children) | Copy Link

"Of course no police officer should kick some one in the head.......but maybe, if you kicked them while in handcuffs, you might have deserved it."

[–]simjanes2k 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't think anyone has yet noticed this is an LCK bit.

[–]SteamApunk 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was wondering why I hadn't seen a comment about it yet

it was front page of /r/videos yesterday

[–]MakDak 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone mentioned it earlier, not sure what happened to their comment.

[–]G-Bat -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah you're probably the only person who's seen that.

[–]Caspasho 156 points157 points158 points 11 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link

People with as much authority as police officers should be sane and mature enough to be able to take some mild resistance from a drunk person (man or woman) without beating that defenseless person unconscious, possibly giving permanent damages. Dont you think so?

[–]MakDak 114 points115 points116 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I think that I've lived in an area that was full of these kinds of people and it's not about 1 incident. Cops deal with people like this everyday and I think the cumulative stress wears on them.

This is why we should be willing to invest money in our police. Instead of arming them to the teeth, we should be giving them more PTO, helping them deal with the stress, and providing them with top notch training. Since they rarely get any of those, I can see why this sort of thing happens.

That being said, I guess the officer on this incident had a history of aggressive behavior and probably shouldn't have been put on duty.

[–]bigtfatty 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why we should be willing to invest money in our police.

Damn, I've been saying this for years and you're the first person to mirror that sentiment.

[+]jameson_water -19 points-18 points-17 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Fuck this dog shit logic. If you can't take the stress, find another job. I'm sick of people acting like the cops are the victims. If cops can't be held to the same standards you are, what's the point? If you need 'top notch training' to teach you that you shouldn't kick someone in the face, you are the problem.

[–]Grammer_NotZ 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

everybody that does everything are just people.

if you've worked in retail then you know the soccer mom who bought a vacuum cleaner and figured it was a good idea to try to vacuum out a filled kiddie pool because the display for the vacuum display was within 200 feet of the plumbing department which, in some crazy world, is a clear indication that you can put water through a electrically exposed air pump. not only is this bitch full-blown retarded, but she insists that you are the cause of this particular instance of retardation, and extra steps need to be taken on your part to make sure that she has to do as little thinking as possible in the future, because she always seems to fuck up when she's put in that position.

policemen have an equivalent of these soccer moms, except they deal with them all the time. miller light is the breakfast of champions at the johnson's place on 1st and elm. it's thursday, tom barker's cashing his check and heading over the mickeys... we better head on over around closing time to walk him out again. barbara sue is out hooking for meth again... should we arrest her this time?

it's easy to assume that our entire society is chock full of upstanding gentlemen like you and i, but police almost exclusively deal with the scum of our society, and if not them then people like us at our most desperate hour.

their pay is modest for the work, it's a psychological nightmare. you spend 60 hours a week realizing that there's no hope for mankind. you raise your kids the best you know how, knowing even then that it's entirely possible they wind up sucking dicks for crack rocks despite your efforts.

they probably shouldn't go around shooting everybody they see, but if some insufferable wench in a skirt and handcuffs decides to kick you, kick her in the fucking head. next time, since there's almost always a next time for people who attack policemen, she might not kick whoever has to deal with her bullshit.

[+]jameson_water -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Still horrible fucking logic. The job, as shitty as it is, attracts a certain kind of person, and it's not their job to hand out punishment. So no matter how insufferable someone is and how much you had to deal with cause of your career decision, you don't get to kick someone or rough them up. If I have to restrain myself when I get pissed off, cops do too.

[–]Grammer_NotZ 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

i work in automation. ideally i never have to do anything. when i do have to do something, i have to do it well and do it fast. everybody is looking over my shoulder, wondering how long it will take, wanting me to hurry, making comments about production loss, parroting how much money our business loses every minute i spend fixing something. sometimes this happens often and the nagging does not relent.

during one of these times, one of my peers threw and broke a $5000 piece of equipment out of frustration. why on earth would somebody who professes in a logic-based field do something so illogical? he chose his profession, he is generally not supposed to break stuff. how could this have happened?

the human condition is irrational. robot programmers, cashiers, policemen, social workers, firefighters, salesman... they are all vulnerable to this weakness. i'm sure you could throw money into training programs to raise people's tolerance of bullshit, but the limit is always there somewhere.

he probably shouldn't have kicked her, but he wasn't necessarily wrong in doing so. if that makes any sense.

[–]jameson_water -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's a huge difference to getting frustrated and smashing a piece of equipment and hurting someone. You think I give a fuck if a cop gets pissed and kicks his car? And, if your friend kicked you in the face cause he couldn't hack it at work, I don't think you'd be defending him or using that story as a reference. If you can't keep your cool you shouldn't have a gun and be in the position of keeping order. I don't know why you are defending this. If you have a rough day do you kick your dog or beat your wife?

[–]Grammer_NotZ 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

if my dog* bites me or my wife smacks me, yes, i would probably kick either of them.

[–]Occassional_Troll -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lion trainers are people too and they know not to stand too close to the animal

[–]MakDak 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, I wouldn't last a day as an officer. Also, there are good cops who can do the job right, but we don't give the police what they need to hire ONLY those types of people. It's a high stress, low gratitude, mid-pay job. That's not exactly a strong sell to the patient and courageous.

Edit for grammar.

[–]Zerocyde 52 points53 points54 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

No. Everything anyone ever does drunk is 100% their fault and they are 100% responsible for their actions. Drunkness excuses NOTHING. Don't like that? Then don't drink.

[–]ThisToastIsTasty21 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I hate it when people say "she was drunk" as an excuse... like really dude? so if i want to kill someone and i get drunk before i do it, it's completely fine... right?

[–]greenshrubbery 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well it can downgrade it to manslaughter in some circumstances. It certainly contributes to a lessening of sentencing.

[–]Totallynotahost -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a difference between killing someone and kicking someone. I agree that this woman should get her punishment for kicking the cop, but that shouldn't be getting kicked in the head.

[–]bigtfatty 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Excuse it? No, but it's certainly still relevant to motive/state of mind at time of incident.

[–]Cyno01 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But you still cant consent to sex while drunk.

[–]LordOrgasm 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I never got that logic. If a lady friend and I got drunk and screwed, what the hell happened? If both of us couldn't consent to sex, did we just rape each other?

[–]ThisToastIsTasty 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

according to /u/Cyno01 , yup.

[–]Zerocyde 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yea you can. Touching the drink to your lips says; "I'm choosing to ingest a liquid that alters my behavior and reasoning, which means I may choose to do things that I otherwise would not. Such as driving drunk which can cause the death of myself or others, or engaging in sexual activities with people I normally would not. I CHOOSE to drink this, and CHOOSE to be responsible for whatever that brings."

It's like, "I'm gonna drink a bullet fired from a gun which may cause bullets to fly out the back of my neck and hit people behind me, but that's not my fault if it does because that's just what this drink does." Stupid.

[–]Aarondhp24 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that kind of person needs someone to teach them a lesson. They've been doing it far too long if they think they can kick a cop.

[–]WillBlaze 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I think they should but if they get hit and strike back with a reasonable amount of force (which is what happened in the video) then I got no problem with it. Regardless of how drunk you are, you should have the right mind to not strike a cop especially if you are cuffed and defenseless because of this.

And to call this a "beating" is going way too far if that is what you are trying to say.

[–]Caspasho -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

You're crazy if you're calling that a reasonable amount of force...

[–]WillBlaze 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

You're crazy if you're calling that a beating, that involves more than one hit. And yes that was reasonable, it was unreasonable for her to think she could strike a cop and expect nothing back. It was unreasonable for her to make an aggressive action against a cop when she had no way to defend herself.

The only reason I dislike this is because he is a cop and needs to keep a cool head as much as possible since he is the professional here. Other then that she deserved what she got.

[–]zzoyx1 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I agree, it was one shot. Maybe it shouldn't have been to the head, but if you strike anyone expect to get a strike back. This cop might deal with people who do this all the time. After the 100th person kicks me Id fucking retaliate as well. It's not like he didn't just go back to writing once she's unable to bother him again. He doesn't add any more than one shot, big deal

[–]Jesus390 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Also she committed a felony for assaulting an officer which basically allows him to fight back. A cop got away with picking up and slamming a dude in a wheelchair on his head because the guy technically assaulted an officer. Dont commit felonies and youll find officers likely will not beat you senseless well within their rights of the law

[–]ajdo -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Is beating people senseless a legal form of punishment now?

[–]Jesus390 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Its a legal consequence of committing a felony when resisting arrest.

[–]ajdo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Here man, just so learn and so that you don't sound like an idiot.

http://www.nij.gov/topics/law-enforcement/officer-safety/use-of-force/pages/welcome.aspx

[–]Jesus3901 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Literally all that says is IT DEPENDS. Read teh article next time so you dont sound like an idiot and youd realize thats not a law, just a suggestion.

[–]Squez360 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He might have done that out of instinct. I know I would

[–]OneSoggyBiscuitDA REAL LIMP BIZKIT -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That wasn't instinct. Instinct isn't looking down and seeing l that you were kicked and then deciding to kick her back.

[–]Squez360 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I didnt say it was a reflex. If you watch the gif, he had less then a second to instinctively decide to attack back.

[–]OneSoggyBiscuitDA REAL LIMP BIZKIT -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That isn't instinct and I didn't say it was a reflex. Instinct is the tendency to lean towards a certain behavior, you just said he decided to do something. He paused, looked at the situation, and decided to kick her back.

That's not instinct, he paused and made a decision.

[–]Cynicalraven 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not necessarily. If I hit anyone and I'm drunk or sober, I should expect the same in return. I got what I deserved. If it escalates or if the cop then presses charges afterwards then he truly is an asshole.

[+]Turksarama -10 points-9 points-8 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Seriously, kicking someone who's been handcuffed in the head isn't ok, I don't care if they shot your partner.

[–]wingmanly 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Unless they shot your partner while in the handcuffs. Then you probably need to stop them.

[–]Turksarama -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd have to wonder how they got hold of a gun, that wouldn't reflect well on you or your partners competence.

[–]WooPeedOnMyRug1 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

........but maybe

[–]FrostytheSnowColt 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Someone needs to watch more Chris Rock.

[+]fellowfiend -41 points-40 points-39 points 11 years ago* (27 children) | Copy Link

That was overkill. a simple takedown while forcing her to the ground would've sufficed.

Edit: so I assume this is the normal reaction for someone who barely taps you. Literally like a tap on the shin guys. I know she's a drunk bastard, but there's no reason to knock her the fuck out.

I bet you're the same type of people to be outraged by the police doing corrupt things, killing innocent people.

Edit 2: so I'm at -14 downvotes so far, I forgot to see what sub I am in. PPD is just as bad as FPH now apparently. How immature.

Edit 3: this sub is basically /r/beatingwomen at this point of this many people think she deserved that.

[–]CarlosWeiner55 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Or just ignore it and add assaulting a police officer to the charges.

[–]Prime_was_taken15 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Or kick her in the head and add assaulting a police officer to the charges, win win

[+]fellowfiend -12 points-11 points-10 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah she's drunk, got in trouble, going to jail for it is punishment enough. Apparently these fucks think she deserves to be knocked out as well.

[–]KillermooseD 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If she can't handle drinking and assaults a police officer, maybe she shouldn't be drinking. You choose to drink and what happens to you while intoxicated is no one's fault but yours.

[–]ThrowArtAtGoats -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If he can't handle drunk people and decides to possibly fatally injure them if they resist arrest, maybe he shouldn't be a police officer. You choose to be a cop, and annoying drunk people are part of your job description. A police officer is a man of the law, and while many criminals don't, he should have a lot more respect for a human life. Just because criminals choose to be break laws, doesn't mean you get to, too.

[–]fellowfiend -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's what you think. Many people think they can handle most things yet cannot. Point is that the officer used way excessive force on a person that's handcuffed and too drunk to cause any actual harm. She is capable of doing as much harm as a 3 year old at that moment, and who's going to kick a 3 year old in the head?

This sub could be good like justice porn but it's really like FPH

[–]Parade_Precipitation 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

this sub has completely stopped being about women getting their comeuppance after trying to get out of consequences because they are women

Now its just about enjoying seeing women getting any sort of retribution...and theres clearly a lot of guys that just want to see women get hit like men.

[–]fellowfiend 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Sad that's true

Welcome to /r/beatingwomen3

Enjoy your stay!

[–]fellowfiend -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't think I've ever seen a man get knock the fucked out for nothing like this from a cop. Sure guys get thrashed harder, but it's not like it's exclusive to men.

[–]Parade_Precipitation -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i mean getting hit like they are the same size and strength as a man

[–]RedStarDawn 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome to equality.

[–]sillyjewsd-6 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

I don't even care. That was funny as shit.

[–]Parade_Precipitation -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

another edgy reddit-kid...

[–]SellingSomeShit 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

FYI yours is the comment that reeks of edginess

[+]Parade_Precipitation -8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

lol.

you need a dictionary kid

[–]SellingSomeShit 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

edginess increasing

[+]Parade_Precipitation -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

nice trolling

...summer on reddit...

[–]joemerlot 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Goddamn, dude...

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–]depakoitvs 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My mother or sister wouldn't be drunk at a casino making whatever mess that lady was doing and then kicking a police officer bigger than them. Not saying he did right.

[–]LBCvalenz562 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then I'd tell them they are stupid and deserve it.

[–]sillyjewsd-1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Nice try, but still funny.

[–]LBCvalenz562 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Edit 2: so I'm at -14 downvotes so far, I forgot to see what sub I am in. PPD is just as bad as FPH now apparently. How immature

How about you go tip your fedora somewhere else?

[–]fellowfiend -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh sorry so I can't point be a normal human being without pointing out how cruel this is and how It isn't related to the sub at all?

This sub is about women being denied a "get out of jail free card", not getting fucking beat the shit out of them unnecessarily. Fuck you guys honestly.

[–]moomanjo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no point. This sub has become r/beatingwomen3

[–]LBCvalenz562 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://imgur.com/r/highqualitygifs/Ir905bR

[–]SkeeterMcgyger -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, a police officer should never be allowed to kick someone in the back of the head, if a civilian kicked another civilian and barely hit someone's shin like that and they responded by knocking them out cold with a boot to the back of the head they would be charged with assault for sure, I don't know why people think a cop deserves to get away with it, they already get away with too much as it is

[+]hmmillaskreddit -124 points-123 points-122 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Do you? A bare foot swipe from a sitting position is equal to a standing booted kick in the head?

You're pretty stupid aren't you.

[–]TaylorWK 90 points91 points92 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

You deserve a kick to the head.

[–]tigrn914 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well...

[–]Fallen_Angle 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was hoping to see this song here! Aaand I'm already jazzed up for Fallout 4.

Today was a good day.

[–]bugattikid2012 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A boot to the head!

[–]hmmillaskreddit -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Calling out excessive violence makes me deserve to be assaulted. Cool logic.

[+]gamernamer69 -20 points-19 points-18 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's funny so it's okay

[–]CharlieBuck 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If it were a man he would have an extra charge, shut the fuck up

[–]mancira 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, I don't feel bad for her

[–]NerfJihad 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

nnngh! "take that, ya big meanie!"

"wanna know why you're not supposed to do that?"

BAM

"oh shit dude, she's fuckin dead"

[–]billiambobby 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not about whether or not the two are equivalent. It's about the woman being an idiot. Anyone in their right mind doesn't kick, punch, or even threaten a police officer. Maybe she doesn't deserve to get a kick to the head, but she better have expected it.

[–]CharlieBuck 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE KITCHEN IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT

[+]professional_stoner -13 points-12 points-11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Too bad somebody didn't kick a comma into your last sentence, you fuckwit.

[+]6F6A9O9 -36 points-35 points-34 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sure you shouldn't Tase child rapist in the junk when they're restrained. . . but maybe

[–]dichotomies 17 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

...you should wait for the trial?

[–]6F6A9O9 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's from a Louis CK bit.

[–]Rphilmacrac 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fatality

[–]buddabuddayoyo 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So I've never been to this sub and have two questions. What's a pussy pass and what's a white knight?

...well I guess that makes it one question with two parts.

[–]michael1026 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't look for the answer to those questions in this sub as there is rarely even a "pussy pass" used. It's where a woman tries pulling the, "You can't...because I'm a girl". There's nothing in this .gif that says that. It's just a woman kicking a cop, then the cop kicking her in the face. White knighting is a guy sticking up for a girl hoping he'll get with her.

[–]buddabuddayoyo 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sweet thanks.

[–]SellingSomeShit 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

White knighting is when guys 'protect' girls that are the instigators of a conflict. A girl might slap some guy around for three straight minutes or throw a tantrum where she's trashing someone's property and the white knight will stand by doing nothing to stop her. Then the moment someone retaliates the white knight swoops in to her defense because he's just that pussy-whipped that he'll stick up for an asshole if the asshole has a vagina

[–]FuncuzCapt-Save-A-Ho 65 points66 points67 points 11 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

I was born back in the Jurassic where if you kicked a cop you knew a beatdown was in the mail and really just waiting for you to sign for it.

Police brutality ? Well...sort of. I mean, yeah, technically. On the other hand cops aren't robots and still have human reactions. What about dumb-criminal-brutality ? Whatever happened to that ? Back when I was born it was just sort of common sense but today apparently we've de-educated people to the point that they actually think they're allowed to provoke cops and even strike them.

I'm not defending a cop kicking a handcuffed individual. I still think he was right by all natural justice.

[–]3randy3lue 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. She kicked at his legs with her bare feet from a sitting position while handcuffed, which clearly did not hurt him. She shouldn't have done that but I feel his reaction was way over the top. In return he kicked her in the head from a standing position and with a booted foot.

[–]I_AM_THE_LIQUEUR 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guess she'll never do that again

[–]J-roddy 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

and now she knows better than to kick someone while down cuffed and weaker than the opposition.

[–]OneSoggyBiscuitDA REAL LIMP BIZKIT 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And no he knows better, because he was rightfully fired for this.

[–]_YouDontKnowMe_ -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Probably steel toe boots.

[–]CharlieBuck 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Well if you won't I will. Fuck that bitch. If that were a man he would have an extra charge but because it was a woman the officer got fired and charged. Hahahahaha equal rights my ass.

[–]TerryAndYourWife 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. If this was a guy it would be on /r/justiceporn, but because it's a woman, it'll only get seen here, because apparently equal rights still means women get the privilege to kick an officer and not be hit right back.

[–]Cormophyte 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

If it was on justiceporn it'd still be a bad post because the cop would still be wrong.

There aren't many situations where it's okay for cops to be kicking people in the head (or kicking people in general, really) and anyone who thinks this is one of them is a moron.

[–]TerryAndYourWife -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

There aren't many situations where it's okay for cops criminals to be kicking people police officers in the head at all (or kicking people in general, really) and anyone who thinks this is one of them is a moron.

[–]ThrowArtAtGoats 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

But criminals are criminals. And police officers are police officers. This guy turned from lawful to unlawful and thus, is a criminal and should be treated as one. The police is protected from legal consequences when they have to use force to do their job in some situations, but only if the force used meets the danger they were facing. A cuffed person, sitting on the ground barefoot, no matter if male or female, that tries to kick you, is a danger, but none that you need to subdue with a kick to the head. A simple step back would have been enough. Retaliation is not a cops job. Retaliation is not the laws purpose. And he needs to uphold the law while on the job and wearing uniform, what he does in his free time is completely different.

[–]TerryAndYourWife 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There is no context to this gif. Meaning anything could've happened prior. She may have fought, kicked, punched etc. being arrested. But then again the cop could have been overly forceful and arrest her for a shitty reason, causing her to kick out. But from what we see, it's a person handcuffed while an officer is writing out a report of the situation. He doesn't provoke her to kick him. When anyone, even an officer is being hit, they are allowed to retaliate in equal action, meaning if he were to pull out a taser or bat and start beating the shit out of her, it would definitely be police brutality. She kicked him, he kicked her back. I wouldn't expect anything less or anything more than exactly what happened.

[–]ThrowArtAtGoats 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In my country, resisting arrest (without harming anyone) and prison break (again, not harming other people) are not illegal. The legal argument behind it is, that the will to be free is so strong, any human will fight to keep their freedom.

An intoxicated person will probably lash out, and as a police officer, you need to be prepared for an arrested person to fight for their freedom. What you are allowed to do, legally and morally, is to use just enough force to regain control over the situation and prevent any harm being done to you or any other person involved, but no more than that. In this situation, stepping back or putting her in a car would have sufficed. Off the job, whatever you do is your thing, but as a police officer acting in the function of a police officer, you do not get to act unlawful. No matter what happened, retaliation is not a cops job, and it is not the laws purpose. Laws are made to prevent harm being done to the rest of society, nothing more, nothing less.

And even if he retaliated, a kick in the shin does not equal a kick in the head. One hurts, gives you a bruise for a few days and is annoying, the other knocks you unconscious, gives you a concussion and is possibly (and not unlikely) life threatening. If he pushed her away with his foot while making sue she is not going to hit her head, fine. But he kicked her in the head, which can have really (really really really really) severe consequences. This is excessive force, and the guy is on a power trip. It is disgusting, and he should never be able to ever work in a position where he has that much responsibility, because clearly, he doesn't honor it.

[–]TerryAndYourWife 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In my country, and most, resisting arrest is illegal and you will be punished for it. As is an attempted prison break. And I agree completely with both rules. I for one respect police officers and would never in my right mind even think about kicking one. I think this woman is very lucky the cop DIDN'T use excessive force to apprehend her such as a taser, which is more than likely what a male would have got in that situation.

I don't agree with police brutality, I'm totally against it. This however is justified. Nobody has the right to assault an officer, and no officer should go to work scared to use necessary force to protect themselves.

[–]ThrowArtAtGoats 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Police officers need to honor human life. Their sole purpose is to protect society and uphold the law. Society includes criminals. Society includes a lashing out cunt that got shitfaced and peed her own pants. They are there to protect everyone. They do not get to retaliate, they do not get to throw a temper tantrum, they do not EVER get to break any law. Necessary force, by definition, means just enough to regain control and prevent harm. This was excessive. This is never justifiable, neither morally nor legally, no matter if the person cuffed is male or female. This police officer risked KILLING this person in his custody, that he was responsible for at that time. He risked KILLING someone that has been arrested for being drunk. Not a child molester, a shop lifter, a burglar, a robber. This was a drunk. Not a danger to society that needs to be eliminated. He had many other choices of how to control the situation. This, what he did, should have been a last resort, but instead, he made it his first response. Retaliation is childish, immature and solves nothing. You don't get to hurt people cause they hurt you. And you don't get to kick anyone in the head with steel toed boots and not face the consequences.

[–]Cormophyte -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So you're saying that you think this woman deserved to be kicked while handcuffed and sitting on the ground as personal retaliation by the cop for being kicked?

You're a moron. You're exactly the moron I was talking about.

[–]TerryAndYourWife -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You did it again. You said 'woman'. There is no reason to state that she's a woman. If equality is what we're aiming for, it's just a criminal assaulting an officer. Nobody should be able to get away with this.

[–]Cormophyte -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fuck are you talking about? I used the word woman because that's the person in the video.

You need to get back on your meds, kid.

[–]darbbycrash 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck those who fuck with cops

[–]rj20876 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm not defending a cop kicking someone in handcuffs...I'm just defending a cop kicking someone in handcuffs.

[–]FuncuzCapt-Save-A-Ho 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes. I'm not defending him on legal grounds. The law also says that a joint is more dangerous for you than a 12 pack of your favorite suds. I am defending him on a basic sense of justice. If somebody kicks me, I'm going to kick back. Seems fair to me and %99 of the population.

[–]ThePerdmeister -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

not defending him on legal grounds.

You're trying to justify his actions on moral grounds, which I'd argue is worse than trying to defend him on legal grounds.

If somebody kicks me, I'm going to kick back. Seems fair to me and %99 of the population.

And if some drunk, largely subdued individual kicks you (a person in a position of authority, mind you) feebly in the shin, it's fair to forcefully boot that person in the back of the head? You've got a warped notion of "natural justice." Stop acting like a child, and learn to control yourself; "b-b-but she started it!" is not an adequate justification for this sort of escalation of force.

[–]emotionalboys2001 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank god you're not a police officer lol

[–]ThrowArtAtGoats -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I get that you are coming from an "an eye for an eye" perspective, but it's "an eye for an eye" and not "an eye, your firstborn, your heart on a silver platter and your head on a pike outside my front door for an eye". Cops are there to protect and serve, and he clearly showed he has no respect for human life whatsoever. He has no place on the force, and he is not the kind of man that deserves as much responsibility as cops have.

[–]ASeekerOfTheTruth-1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This, this a fucking thousand times over. I can't believe how many fucking people in this thread are getting all up in arms about, "omg, police brutality, cops are evil, etc." I welcome you to come live in Jersey City as a law abiding citizen and see how quickly your views change in the hostile environments within. Go ahead and experience getting attacked, having ribs broken, having criminals think they run everything and can do what they want. I'd like to see how many would still be complaining about Police "brutality"

[+]Parade_Precipitation -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

ahh yes. the good old days when a cop could beat the shit out of people.

and the niggers and the faggots knew their places, women stayed in the kitchen.

'natural justice'. you gotta be some kind of pussy to think kicking a person who is on the ground with hands restrained behind their back is justifiable.

glad you and your ignorant ilk are dying sooner than later.

heres hoping a cop kicks your stupid teeth in someday you pathetic nothing of a man.

[–]FuncuzCapt-Save-A-Ho 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Call it whatever you want to then. If you can't piece together how kicking somebody will earn you one in return then you wouldn't survive very long without those cops you think are robots.

By the way, how do you know I'm not female or homosexual ? And, if I deserve a kick in "my stupid" teeth for saying I understand why a cop might have a perfectly reasonable reaction to being kicked , what do I get if I actually try to kick one ?

You have a very strange sense of justice indeed so I'm not surprised how this is all going over your head.

[–]Parade_Precipitation -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

whatever pussy.

apparently your scared ass needs cops so bad that you're willing to defend one kicking a defenseless and restrained person in the head.

what a boot licking coward. just pathetic.

that you dont think cops should be held to higher standard really shows what a scared idiot you are.

''b...b...but...she kicked my shin! i get to kick her in the head now!''

moron

you're dismissed

[–]FuncuzCapt-Save-A-Ho 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Sometimes I wish I could actually meet internet trolls who talk tough.

That aside, you're a very angry person. Something is wrong with you. Seriously, I'm not saying this to provoke you but it's pretty obvious to me that you have some emotional health issues you need to deal with.

And, of course, you didn't actually address my question regarding your cognitive dissonance. If saying that something disagreeable to you deserves a kick in "my stupid" teeth (sorry, they never went to school :( ) then how can it be that actually kicking somebody on any part of their body doesn't deserve any retaliation ? You really don't see the inconsistency of that ? You can't really be that un-self-aware, can you ?

More importantly, how do you know I'm male, age of majority, heterosexual, or anything else you care to assume about me ? Well, given your hit to miss ratio I'd say that you actually have no clue at all.

I know...don't feed the trolls. I enjoy it though. You talk like a 15 year old kid with mommy issues. Don't know if you are but it's definitely how you represent yourself. Has this gotten you laid yet ? Is it paying off ? Really, I'd like to know. Even a whiff of pussy pass your nose yet ? Well, don't give up. Fight the good fight. Sooner or later some chick is bound to take pity on you and offer her wares after copious amounts of beer and pot. Unless you just decide to rape her. Hey, I'm not judging. I'm just saying you seem like the kind of guy who couldn't get laid under normal circumstances.

[–]Parade_Precipitation 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol, tldr pussy.

you're fine with defenseless people being beaten by cops.

you're a pussy. run along now.

[–]WHAT_IS_SHAME 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly she's a dumbass, but so is he. A police officer should be held to a higher standard than that.

[–]Georogeny5 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

How is this pussy pass denied? It's a person kicking another person in the face while they are restrained.

[–]badboidurryking 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

lol this gif must tear reddit apart, it loves to see women hurt under the thinly veiled guise of "justice" yet hates police brutality.

[–]coolman1913 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy gets it.

[–]MakDak 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I think all of the conflicting opinions here highlight 2 different problems:

1) Too many cops see themselves as above the law and treat average people like criminals when they've done nothing wrong.

2) Too many people treat cops like assholes and then get pissed when one retaliates.

[–]Warphead -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Those aren't two conflicting opinions, those are two examples of bad cops. It's illegal for cops to retaliate, they're not being assholes they are being criminals.

The fact that you said cops should be allowed to retaliate when they're angry is actually the problem. Why is no other profession allowed to hurt people when they're angry?

Your post annoys the shit out of me, but I'm not kicking you in the head.

[–]MakDak 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

When I said retaliate I meant in any form. I watched someone who was getting a ticket spit in a cop's face and then get upset when they ended up getting arrested. She acted like he was the asshole in that situation.

[–]Warphead 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not retaliation, that's enforcing the law. if he had broken her jaw and then arrested her, that's the illegal retaliation we're discussing.

And a person who is being arrested is always going to act like they're unhappy about it.

[–]HitachinoBia -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Don't feed the sjws they eat enough already.

[–]MakDak -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I just like to clarify things if I think a lurker might misinterpret my meaning. Most of Reddit is actually level headed and reasonable about these types of discussions, despite what the comments might suggest.

Hi lurkers!

[–]Warphead -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Keep sniveling, tell yourself you're being brave.

[–]HitachinoBia 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alright chub.

[–]TurtleRanAway 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh goodie, where getting to the point where any woman getting hit qualifies as pussypassdenied. If that was a guy, would we feel any better? That was police brutality. She was cuffed, sitting down, and probably not mentally well/sober/what have you. Giving a fucking round house kick to the back of someones head for a pathetic attempt at kicking your feet is fucked up.

[–]Spark277 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From the perspective of someone who doesn't support this police behavior for any gender, I can definitely see your point of view and why it wouldn't seem like PP material, but from a lot of people's perspectives this police officer's behavior would have been fine if it were a man.

This thread would be full of "He attacked a cop, he deserved it" if that were a guy and posted in some other subreddit. I agree with you that this is really shitty behavior from the police but I don't think that makes it incompatible with being PP material because she did get the exact same treatment that any man would have received from that officer if they had kicked him instead.

[–]One10soldier1 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No. That cop was way out of line. He could have charged her with assault on a police officer for sure, until he kicked her in the face. Lawsuit for sure now at the tax payers expense.

[–]bigtfatty 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He was fired.

[–]GrizzlyLeatherBut I dindu nuffin!!! 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

''Just play dead, maybe I'll get my pass that way''

[–]tphire 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like Ed Gooberman... she too wished to be schooled in the art of Tak Kwan Leap

[–]noott 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://youtu.be/vaj6YGOLskQ

[–]greatslyfer 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol ok people need to calm the fuck down if this was a guy doing it to a guy you'd be pissed at how the officer overreacted.

Thing is I've noticed that in these very rare instances of this subreddit, people automatically go on auto pilot and blame the woman for being in the wrong and using her PP. This article clearly shows it's not the case, and it's just a matter of a police overreacting over a drunk PERSON (not male, not female, person, cause it's fucking irrelevant).
The thing I fear right now is that a tendency to auto-blame the woman without actually understanding what's going on is spreading slowly through some people in this subreddit. Some people, not all.
Do you know what that tendency reminds me of? Feminists. Yes, that's right, some of you are becoming fucking hypocrits and becoming the movement you despise.

[–]depakoitvs 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Kind of agree. But if it was a man he would probably get beaten or worse.
You don't just kick a cop, or anyone, to be honest.
Jumping to conclusions: I bet she was used to do that to other men, like boyfriend or whatnot, but she didn't realise that not every person on earth is there to stand for that crap. In other words: you don't just kick strangers.

[–]faded_jester 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I love how the cop calmly goes back to writing stuff down after the kick.

[–]billiambobby 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So goddamn nonchalant.

[–]Stickrell 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Cops are supposed to be better than that.

[–]J-roddy -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

don't hit people if you aren't ready to get hit back. the other person can put a stop to what you start.

[–]Karlzone 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That pathetic kick did in no way equal the forceful kick with a boot to the face from the police officer. Just because there is "kick" in the description, doesn't mean they are the same. That was a HUGE escalation of force on his part and he's a cop, for god's sake, and should know to show restraint.

[–]MelodyMuns 19 points20 points21 points 11 years ago (100 children) | Copy Link

So much fucking justice in one kick.

[–]MarlinMr 145 points146 points147 points 11 years ago (98 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, this is policebrutality. She is in a sitting position. Kicking at his legs. She is cuffed. All he has to do, is step back a few feet and ignore her. Instead he kicks her in the head, seemingly knocking her out. For all we know, she might have died. What then?

This subreddit is supposed to be about justice and justice is blind. Facts are that a sitting cuffed person is kicking at an officers legs. The officer retaliates with a kick to the head.

I don't think you could get that of as self defense. It's just two pissed off people kicking at each others, where one kicks the other with a potentially fatal blow to the head.

[–]AJ34 59 points60 points61 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

she's also a dumbass.

[–]truthlife 26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So is he.

[+]AJ34 -21 points-20 points-19 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I disagree, you do not have enough evidence to make such a conclusion.

[–]truthlife 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He was an officer of the law combating assault with assault. That wasn't his job. That's why he no longer has that job. He was unfit.

[–]GreatSince86 -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are trained to combat assault with assailt.

[–]rattrayc 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't care what it was. Watching it makes me feel a sense of wellbeing

[–]DiscoMike 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

WhiteLivesMatter

[–]Onthegokindadude 30 points31 points32 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

HandsCuffedDontKick

[–]gizmoluvzu1 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But for all we know she could be like Rachel Dolezal and identify as a black woman. lol

[–]killers455 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You racist fuck!

[–]billiambobby 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't expect anything less if I were her though...

[–]supafly208 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She kicked. He kicked. Tomato tomato!

[–]snobord 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed 100%. But I still enjoyed the hell out of that justice kick.

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[–]Asshole_Poet 41 points42 points43 points 11 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't say it's white-knighting though.

In this case, the officer's actions aren't out of order because she's a woman; they're out of order because it was a huge, unnecessary escalation of force from being kicked in the lower leg by a person in no position to do any real damage to striking the same person in the head with enough force to knock them down.

[–]Teller8 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm glad this is being upvoted more than the previous comment. Shows that a majority of people in this sub have a brain instead of just mindlessly yelling, "OHMGH, WHIT KNITE1!@1"

[–]Fallen_Angle 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

It's all very subjective, because what she did was assaulting a police officer.

In some states, a police officer has absolutely no restrictions in responding to assault law officer.

In fact, I believe Texas has the Fleeing Felon Act, which legalizes lethal force to be used when a felon tries to escape, and assault law officer is a felony.

Edit: These aren't my opinions, these are facts. Look them up yourself if you don't trust me.

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[–]Fallen_Angle 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Here's what you are missing: I don't actually support those laws, I'm stating the facts.

FACT ONE: SHE ASSAULTED A POLICE OFFICER

FACT TWO: IN SOME STATES, COPS CAN USE LETHAL FORCE IN RESPONSE TO THAT.

FACT THREE: THE FLEEING FELON ACT AUTHORIZES SUCH FORCE BECAUSE ASSAULTING A COP IS A FELONY.

I don't believe these should be laws in most cases, so stop trying to hide the bare facts by downvoting my comment.

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[–]Fallen_Angle -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

sure they can

And thus you admit that it's still a fact.

I don't see why you're being so argumentative, we're on the same side. I'm merely pointing out the truth, don't hate the messenger.

justify the force you used

I'm not siding with the cops, why is that so hard to understand?

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[–]Fallen_Angle 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THEY SHOULD, I'M SAYING THEY CAN.

[–]Jesus390 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

She couldve kicked out his knee cap if she hit it right, no matter how you look at it its assault and resisting arrest.

[–]Billy_bob12 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

If this was a man Reddit would be up in arms about police brutality.

[–]Jesus390 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

No they wouldnt, they would be pointing and laughing at that mans poor life decisions and the consequences of such.

[–]HazMat68W -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

I am not sure why you are so jaded, but nothing you've said in this thread is worth the time it took to type. Complete bullshit and nothing more.

[–]Jesus390 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Post a source that proves me wrong. You cant because there is none.

[–]HazMat68W -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I will as soon and you provide any evidence to your statements.

[–]Jesus3900 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Burden of proof is on the accuser. Not that you would know anything about the law if you think its okay to assault an officer simply because you are wearing hand cuffs.

[–]HazMat68W0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

First off. I, nor anyone here, said that it was OK to assault a police officer.

Two, you still haven't provided any evidence for your statements.

Three, this isn't an issue of "burden of proof" here as its on the Internet for the world to see both sides.

Put the weed down so you can make some sense bro. As I've actually worked in the COJ, I have some clue as to what I'm talking about. You're not even being consistent with your argument. Good day.

[–]Jesus3900 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

"hurr im right because I say I am" Yeah you got no clue. Assualting a police officer is a felony and is considered resisting arrest. Even if you are hand cuffed. http://www.assaultandbattery.org/assault-battery-on-a-police-officer/

[–]HazMat68W1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What she was doing ISN'T THE DISCUSSION! It's the fact that the officer was also at fault. No one here is talking about her and her future. Other than KICKING HER IN THE FACE is also unlawful. You're a fucking idiot.

[–]Jesus3900 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No its not, when you assualt a police officer they have the right to hit back. What she was doing is the entire discussion. Its not like she was minding her own business when she this officer drop kicked her out of nowhere. She committed a crime, got put in hand cuffs, assualt a police officer (felony) during the arrest (resisting arrest) and he defended himself from further attack. There is defiantly a crime here and it was committed by her. In some states he couldve killed her and gotten away with it because that very much is how the law works.

[–]HazMat68W1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

And that is where you're wrong. Kicking her in the head was in no way "defending" himself. He had plenty of other appropriate options and he chose to bash her face in. He most certainly at least got reprimanded. Go back to bed.

[–]Jesus3900 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It doesnt have to be a real threat, just a perceived threat. Not that I would expect you to know the law. Thats why I cant shoot at an officer with a bb gun and expect everything to be peaches

[–]HazMat68W1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

except not once did I defend her actions. No one is going to take you seriously when you completely fabricate information.

[–]Jesus3900 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Just like how you are fabricating that the police officer wasnt operating entirely within the law

[–]HazMat68W1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Try again

Police brutality is the use of any force exceeding that reasonably necessary to accomplish a lawful police purpose.

source

He exceeded.

An officer’s use of force is “excessive” if it is likely to result in unjustifiable great bodily harm (serious injury).

source

I like this on in particular because it also addresses what you were trying but failed to say. The point is, the female kicked and she could have been further restrained, placed in a vehicle, etc etc, but instead the officer caused her physical hard and knocked her out. that is unacceptable.

And this one is also worth a read: http://thelawdictionary.org/article/what-is-police-brutality/

Now, before you go making up bullshit about what I'm saying, One truth doesn't negate the Other.

Meaning: Just b/c the officer was at fault of his actions, doesn't mean the detainee is innocent...no in the slightest. She most certainly should get charged with assaulting an officer, on top of whatever she was arrested for in the first place. That being said, what PO's response to her kicking his leg was excessive. No doubt about it. Thus in the realm of police brutality and against the law.

So to sum it all up. You made up BS statements again and again, not only about the laws you know little about, but also about what I and others in this thread have said. You also have provided little to no proof to back up your statement, and it seems like you don't really know what your argument is in the first place.

[–]Jesus3900 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Just because that was the ruling doesnt mean the law was properly followed, it just means it wasnt worth the legal cost of dealing with the consequences of an angry population who doesnt understand the law.

[+]bugattikid2012 -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't really matter. She's in custody and resisting arrest. She's pissed because she was caught doing whatever it was she was doing, and her arrogance deserves some repercussions, otherwise she would do it again in a heartbeat.

[–]Asshole_Poet 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't say that repercussions entail getting kicked in the skull. There exists a court of law for determining the correct repercussions.

[–]Jesus390 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair as a result he likely will have exchanged a kick to the head for an officer assault felony. Which is a deal id take every day.

[–]bugattikid2012 -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He may have hit her a tad too hard, but if you notice he did a side swipe exactly like she did, not a full blown kick. If he wanted to really hurt her, he obviously could have. He didn't even stop writing his ticket or whatever, just did a side swipe kick just like she did to him.

[–]lazar7797 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

10/10

[–]MelodyMuns3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

If I were being arrested, the dumbest thing to do would be to assault an already pissed off cop. Granted he could have handled it differently but it was a definitely a hair reaction.

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[–]adinadin 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where did you find that she wasn't charged for that kick?

[–]twerps 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah that was way over the top. "well I guess we have to cuff your feet as well and then carry you" would have been way more fitting.

[–]Jesus390 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or add a felony to her list of offenses and add 5 years jail time.

[–]Vaginalpuppetry 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying I agree or disagree but it's interesting that the comment under the top one got downvoted so much while yours didn't. Maybe because of the insult?

[–]cablebent1988 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So, if she kicks him in the balls or kicks his knee and he tears a ligament, it's ok? You should never kick someone when you are down.

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with what the officer did. No story link, so maybe she killed someone, like another police officer. Maybe she was resisting arrest which make everyone, even trained personnel like police, more hostile and the clear assault on an officer was just more than that individual was willing to put up with from her.

What would you have done if you had maybe worked doubles for the last 6 months to make ends meet, you respond to a call, struggle to subdue the perpetrator of some crime, and she kicks at your balls? At what point would you break? We all have breaking points, we all only put up with so much until we have had enough. Maybe this officer just hit his. When would you have hit yours in this situation?

Also, story link anyone?

[–]renegade2point0-2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

He should have just tased her.

[–]MahSelectah -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

No. She is obviously in trouble and decides to kick a COP. She got what she deserved. And it breaks down like this. Had she NOT kicked the cop, she would not have been kicked in the head. No sympathy for a shitty idea. Fuck her.

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[–]Fallen_Angle 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Be careful kids, that's a really slippery slope!

Getting a near-equal reaction to your action is no where near seeing your family murdered.

[–]GreasyAssMechanic 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She kicked him in the shin, he kicked her in the side of the head. There was no "near-equal" reaction. They weren't even in the same ballpark. Do you realize how easy it is to kill someone with a blunt force to the side of the head?

[–]Fallen_Angle 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It was a kick, thus equal. Should he have taken the time to kick her in the shin, or did she do a violent act against him and he reacted?

kill someone

MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T ASSAULT COPS WHEN THEY CAN EASILY JUSTIFY USING NEAR-LETHAL (OR LETHAL) FORCE AGAINST YOU.

[–]GreasyAssMechanic -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry kid, but that's not how that works. She's already restrained, any further assault against the officer is simply tacked on to her charges. Cops are not allowed to attack perpetrators. They are simply allowed to respond to attempted attacks in appropriate manners of self defense. She kicked him in the shin. He could have stepped out of the way or restrained her legs in shackles. The kick to the head was not only potentially deadly, but also unwarranted. It was not done to directly counter her kick to the shin, but rather to retaliate for the kick. Cops are not allowed to retaliate. There is no justification for an officer of the law employing any sort of retaliatory force.

[–]Fallen_Angle 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

any force is tacked on to her charges

Oh, it will be regardless of whether or not the cop hits her back.

cops are not allowed to attack perpetrators

Yes, they are. Where is the law stating they can't? What legal action could possibly follow that cop's retaliation?

unwarranted force

I agree, but that doesn't mean to cop can't do it. If he feels threatened in any way, he is authorized to use any force he deems necessary. In all honesty, he could've tazed her.

cops are not allowed to retaliate

Ha, maybe in whatever country you live in. Definitely not the USA.

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[–]adinadin 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even between two citizens the one kicking a freely standing person in most jurisdictions commits lesser offence than the one retaliating by kicking a restrained person instead of stepping away (and calling the police if he wants to press charges for kicking him in a leg likely with no actual harm).

[–]MahSelectah 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, you're so fucking stupid....." whole family murdered"....wtf?

She kicked a cop, cop kicked her. OMG WTF POLICE BRUTALITY.

[–]Jesus390 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"If he let her get away with kicking the cop, whats to say she would not have bit his dick off?" See how that works both ways?

[+]faded_jester -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

I bet you wouldn't have felt the need to write any of that if it had been a man doing the initial kick.....the thought would have been close to "lol what a dumbass for kicking a cop".

white knights......ugh

[–]HazMat68W 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Disagree 100%. In any situation this would be police brutality. That is a fact not an opinion. And not dependent on gender.

[+]Jesus390 -8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

She committed a felony and resisted arrest. You can call it brutality but its totally not. You know she isnt gonna get the charge for it, if she was a black dude and they tried that shit he would possibly be dead and get the felony charge had he lived. I think a kick to the face is a fair trade for making 2 major charges disappear.

[–]HazMat68W 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

You should probably brush up on your law degree before making statements like that. People may think you have no clue what you're talking about.

[–]Jesus390 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Its felony to assualt a police officer. Assualting a police officer while handcuffed is resisting arrest. There is no wiggle room here.

[–]HazMat68W 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I don't think a single person is arguing that the female is in the wrong for kicking the PO. HOWEVER, the PO is also in the wrong for kicking a retrained suspect in the face! There is NO wiggle room there and I'm not sure how you cant see that. Police Officers must hold a high standard of themselves and they are not exempt of the laws.

[–]Jesus390 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Assaulting a police officer when "restrained" is an attempt to escape. Police officers exist to enforce the law and for no other reason.

[–]HazMat68W 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Kicking the detainee did nothing to ensure the detainee was still restrained. You're not making any sense.

[–]Jesus3900 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It stopped her from being violent. She couldve hurt him, just because someone has handcuffs on doesnt mean they cant hurt you. She couldve been trying to kick out his knee cap and then have made a break for it, we dont know what she was thinking. She was clearly still a threat and he snuffed it. I think we saw different videos.

[–]HazMat68W1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

You don't seem to understand how law works or have any experience in law enforcement.

[–]Jesus3900 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Maybe its different in your country. But based on the video it seems that is how the law works. Maybe if it works differently hell get in trouble? But I doubt it. Because that is how the law works.

[–]HazMat68W1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Because that is how the law works.

Based of what information? B/c this is completely false.

[–]Jesus3900 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Based on the law

[–]HazMat68W1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

what law? Since you're so keen on your law (US?) you should know specifically what law.

[–]Jesus3900 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Post a source that proves me wrong. You cant because there is none.

[–]dodelol 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If the guy above you only said that because it is a woman

does that make his point invalid?

Is the really necessary for the cop to kick that woman so hard?

I agree that she probably had it coming but a cop should be above petty feelings about people acting like shit.

[–]USMCLee -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Odd. Nothing in that comment about the woman not being a dumbass. The phrase dumb cunt does appear in the comment. You couldn't figure that out?

[+]faded_jester -8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I figured out you're both the kind of people who defend anything a vagina attached....I'm surprised you're on reddit with all that nice guy pussy you must be getting....or maybe your busy hitting men who had the audacity to defend themselves from a dainty harmless princess.

Your so quick to defend any all vaginas that you don't even comprehend that the only reason the woman did that....is because she assumed she could get away with it. (it's called a pussypass)

And also you might want to get your eyes checked.....I don't see the words "dumb cunt" in the comment that I commented on. You couldn't figure that out?"

[–]USMCLee -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow you're a bit of an asshole aren't you. Not hugged enough earlier in your childhood?

[+]MahSelectah -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree 100%

[–]lordlicorice -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Obviously the cop was in the wrong, but come on, is that kick not glorious? She absolutely got what she deserved in this case.

[–]rarely-sarcastic -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree. Bitch should have been pepper sprayed not kicked in the fucking head. She did assault a police officer which in this country is one of the worst things you can do but he should have used common sense since he wasn't in any danger. But I really strongly feel that she should have been pepper sprayed for being such a dumb cunt. And this belongs here because she thought she could easily get away with that because she's a girl.

[–]Poles_Apart 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd rather get kicked in the head then pepper sprayed, pretty sure Johnny Noxville said that was the most painful thing he has to do, and he's done some fucked up shit.

[–]LifeizAmazing -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Bananas are weird

[–]Billy_bob12 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This subreddit is supposed to be about justice hating women.

[+]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is not /r/police brutality. Nor is is white /r/knight cunts.

Police Officers face enough danger on a day. Stupid fucking cunts, male or female, that increase the danger then fuck them.

Got a problem with that?

[–]conquererspledge 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Being an officer was found to not even be in the top 10 of most dangerous jobs.

[–]Vaginalpuppetry2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

How dare you insult our heroes /s

[–]DrDeth666 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. It's THE BIG BUST THEY'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR...!!!

[–]bigtfatty 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Justice? Even by the most barbaric laws of lex talionis this is excessive. This isn't eye for an eye, this is eye for a hair. Nothing about pussypassdenial here.

[–]NavyAirVetHerbalist 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He broke at least her orbit on the left eye, her nose and may have shattered her jaw as well as either blinded or deafened her in her left ear.

Consider.

She was handcuffed, sitting on a curb, shoeless.

He kicked her HARD with Steel toed boots shoes on. She has to STILL be having serious health repercussions from that even 7 years later.

I wouldn't be surprised if he damaged her teeth tongue and probably some vertebrate plus possibly also her collarbone.

[–]J-roddy -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

with that description if he full force kicked her she would cease to exist. it was a light kick she's not made of paper.

[–]JustKeepsHappening -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which probably means that she shouldn't have kicked in the first place. When you hit someone, you're gambling with equal or worse response and I find it completely justified.

[–]Dark_Ronald_McDonald -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good. Maybe she'll think twice next time.

[–]sakkara 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Kidding me? She barely touched his legs + is handcuffed and he kicks her in the head? That's not /r/pussypassdenied that's /r/badcopnodoughnut .

That kick was no self defense it was an unnecessary demonstration of violence.

[–]OneSoggyBiscuitDA REAL LIMP BIZKIT 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Good news is he is no longer on the force, because of this incident.

[–]sakkara 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you have a source for this information please?

[–]OneSoggyBiscuitDA REAL LIMP BIZKIT 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sorry for mobile link, all I can do right now.

[–]sakkara 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks!

[–]nophoney 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

/r/policebrutality

[+]The_Hippopotamoose -19 points-18 points-17 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sometimes police brutality just feels so good and righteous.

[+]fade2black28 -17 points-16 points-15 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sometimes it's funny when a drunk idiot tries to kick a cop and gets knocked the fuck out!

[–]jkhockey15 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Life is hard; It's harder if you're stupid"

[–]Cartortus 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

See...police brutality doesn't only happen to black people

[–]arkindal 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is over reaction.

Not pussy pass denied, at all.

Besides, it's ppd when the woman ASK for it, we don't know if that happened in this case due to the lack of audio.

[–]K_Swaggy 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I get so excited when I see things about my state on reddit.

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

what state?

[–]TheRiverRunsRed 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The beautiful Rhode Island

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well there goes my South Carolina hill billy joke.

[–]K_Swaggy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Rhode Island

[–]WolfeBane842 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

She's white so no one in the media will care.

[–]Harmster 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry but how is this a pussypassdenied. This cop is way out of line, you NEVER kick someone in the face, that is just not done. This isn't a pussy pass denied at all.

[–]kurisu7885 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I love it when people think mouthing off or acting off gets them out of trouble.

[–]rarely-sarcastic 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People don't realize how much more shit they will get if they don't just calmly accept their punishment/ticket. You can fight your offense in court later with a lawyer.

[–]Turd_Ferguson420 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Her head smacked against the pavement after the initial strike, that is definitely some police brutality even if she did egg him on with a little kick at his shins (which he mostly dodged btw.)

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[–]Remainselusive 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Makes me happy. Epitome of what needs to be done.

[–]TheLewdFlash1 point 2 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Did that piece of shit get hired by a new police force yet?

[–]Traditional_Pear_5071 point 2 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If she were my family member, that cop would regret the day he were born

[–]legion511 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

An eye for and eye, a kick for a kick. Equality at its finest.

[–]_Polite_as_Fuck 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm glad you aren't in any position of authority.

[–]redincan 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Assault is assault. She had it coming for being a dumb shit. Three things you NEVER do to a cop: Never run from a cop; Never lie to a cop; Never hit a cop. The first two will give them probable cause to do almost anything, the third will allow them to hurt you bad. In my city, those who resisted arrest in public (or on camera) often "fell" down the stairs at the cop shop.

[–]bryanrobh -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It should be this simple. The three rules work well.

[–]ajdo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

That cop is a piece of shit, not because she's a woman, but because she's a human being.

[–]HEY_ITS_ME_UR_BROTHE 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

So is he.

[–]ajdo 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

When one human being kicks another human being in the face, who happens to be handcuffed, the human being doing the kicking becomes a piece of shit. This is especially true when the human being doing the face kicking is a police officer in charge of upholding the law.

[–]HEY_ITS_ME_UR_BROTHE-1 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

I personally wouldn't resist arrest.

[–]ajdo 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't matter.

[–]HEY_ITS_ME_UR_BROTHE-1 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Why? If you do something wrong, or even if you didn't, you will never have a chance to get from the handcuffs and run.

Not resisting arrest is a key to not get kicked in the face in the first place.

[–]Lose__Not__Loose 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So you believe that the proper punishment for resisting arrest is getting kicked in the head by a police officer? I agree. We should just get rid of these courts and let the police be Judge Dredd.

[–]Lose__Not__Loose 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever gone above the speed limit? I believe your punishment should be a kick in the head. You're logic is as good as mine.

[–]HEY_ITS_ME_UR_BROTHE 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes, once, i went on at 20km/h when there was a sign saying "9km/h"... on a bike.

does that count?

Also, how does resisting arrest make sense with speed limit?

Did you ever got arrested for going above the speed limit? I guess not.

[–]Lose__Not__Loose 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You can easily be "detained" for exceeding the speed limit. You can definitely be arrested for going a certain speed over the limit. Judging by your km/h, you're not American and don't understand how easy it is to be put in cuffs there.

[–]HEY_ITS_ME_UR_BROTHE 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I understand cops can be a struggle in USA, but wtf..

[–]Lose__Not__Loose 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

wtf?

[–]ninetwosevenfour 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Notice how the cop continues writing without stopping to see if she's okay?

[–]BhedaI fuck SJW up the ass all day. 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Drunk people who can't handle their liquor and have a good time without being belligerent deserve a kick in the head every now and than to balance out all the stupid shit they do.

[–]hillary210 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If she had been black we would still be hearing about this... After the rioting of course.

[–]damitbobsaget -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She deserved it. She attacked an officer.

[–]michael_1998 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she was on the ground. In handcuffs...

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol

[–]HogNutsJohnson -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not a big fan of cops. But I don't mind this incident.

[+]Born2dodishes -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Awesome.

[–]bryanrobh -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How much do you want to bet she never touches a cop again? Some people need to learn the hard way.

[+]likely_wrong -10 points-9 points-8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Falconnnnnn KICK!

[+]chriscerr -7 points-6 points-5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She got what she deserved. Let's go cops!

[–]treytable -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Have a steel toe, bitch!

[–]Baba_OReilly -4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I wish I was noble. Like Redditors. Sitting there in their underwear. Being noble and shit.

[–]Lose__Not__Loose -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Fucking redditors posting on reddit. They're pieces of shit, amirite?

[–]Baba_OReilly -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You said it chief, I didn't.

[–]Lose__Not__Loose -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Takes one to know one!

Yes. You're a faggot.

[–]Baba_OReilly -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Takes one to know one!

neener, neener, neener! :P

[–]Lose__Not__Loose 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, that was my point.

[–]OnlyOCfromThisOP -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All those facts are great.. All I think when I watch this is " Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!

[–]Its_ok_to_lie -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Such a clean, swift kick to the dome and then simply continues writing.

Edit: lol downvotes.

[–]SSJ4MajinGogetenks -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right and wrong aside, that was some sweet kung fu action! Wapaaaa!!

[–]Edidel -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Roundhouse!!!

[–]thatagent34 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Roadhouse!

[–]riotguards -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you kick me? here's the boot of JUSTICE!

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