TechCrunch groups TheRedPill with Stormfront as a "misogynist hate site"

arnieschwarz · 2014-07-19T15:52:59+00:00

Techcrunch and HuffPo share ownership. Enough said.

Oh yeah: Brace for another flux of new comers. Nothing works better than bad mouthing. Can somebody please put in a link in their comments?

whatsazipper · 2014-07-19T16:21:11+00:00

Not surprising. A red pill guy tried posting over at hacker news a week or two ago. Despite being polite and civil, he was still downvoted into oblivion and promptly banned by the moderators. Everybody over there saw it as a victory and celebrated. I, on the other hand, found a new contempt for everybody I have to do business with in Silicon Valley.

Wheatspin · 2014-07-19T16:02:13+00:00

If TRP is hateful because it looks at human interactions in a self-honest way without the tint of rose, then I'll gladly be labeled that way.

MyRedAccount · 2014-07-19T18:59:46+00:00

I have never seen a better example of someone trying to sound smart and deep when he/she had no fucking idea what they are talking about. He mentions TRP as if he is going to explain a connection with Stormfront and claims erroneously that Eliot Rodgers was somehow affiliated with us (despite having 2 main threads explaining what a pathetic little shit he was...) and he gets me thinking "well ok, I'm interested, let's see how he's going to explain thing."

But then he just ramps up the psycho babble, taking an extract from some barely relevant MIT publication about eigenvectors. I looked up the text and googled some terms I didn't know, and the philosophy piece has nothing to do with his question of "why would people join TRP."

A better question would be "Yo TechCrunch / gawker / huffpo, why are you so hellbent on driving more viewership here. We don't want it, but fuck it, we'll take it.

Meglomaniac · 2014-07-19T17:42:38+00:00

The one thing ill take from this.

Why.. in the fuck.. are we tied to elliot rodgers?

The guy was the complete opposite of what we believe in!

Evesest · 2014-07-19T17:03:25+00:00

Thanks TechCrunch for alerting more men about this sub. Somehow I don't think women are your primary audience, so you made a bit of a miscalculation.

Try_2 · 2014-07-19T16:14:26+00:00

Calling TRP a hate group is absolutely absurd. TRP is the exact opposite of a hate-- it is actually a strategy for making everybody happier because it counters the bigotry and isolationism of modern liberal/feminist culture. Feminism doesn't make women happy; it makes them miserable, lonely, bitter, angry, and sexually frustrated. that's why so many women reject feminism. TRP simply gives men a strategy for escaping the prison of Feminist cultural statism.

Kdevlin90 · 2014-07-19T20:03:23+00:00

Why is Techcrunch even writing about TRP and Stormfront?

trudatness · 2014-07-19T18:47:40+00:00

Did they just advocate for using Facebook as a morality rating system as a means of tracking people's online behavior and beliefs?

How is this different from neoreactionary corporate leadership?

Horussmx · 2014-07-19T17:16:20+00:00

More publicity to us, all this sites writing bad things about TRP only get us more subs that when they come here, they realize this is actually something totally different that they might like :)

GraphicSeniorNudity · 2014-07-20T00:18:10+00:00

Whatever.

Part of the red pill process is hatred. You have to hate something to seek out this advice. Be that women, yourself, the disney movies that lied to you, feminism, or whatever. When you recognize the way the world works and it isn't at all how people told you it did, your natural reaction is to get angry. "Well what the fuck?"

I remember when I first started realizing what I was doing was not working at all. I stumbled across the Black Phillip show, and it was like adding a spark to kindling. I would listen to that show and just get angry. But as has been mentioned, that is just part of the process. Eventually, I got over it and realized that the root of that hatred was being told bullshit that doesn't work for my entire life. It's like hitting your head against a wall at the behest of someone else. At some point you either realize it's not working or you give up, lest you beat yourself to death.

I wasn't mad at Women, I was mad at the mountains of bullshit that had been dumped on me since day 1 and had led me down completely the wrong path. If I believed it, then why wouldn't Women? Especially since they don't get to experience how completely fucking wrong that shit is, so they have no reason to doubt it.

From our pre-redpill angle we see a douchebag, cocky, showoff, rich guy who pulls girls like nothing. From the Women's side they see a confident, charismatic, strong, attractive dude who likes them for who they are inside. Then you ask "What the fuck is that about?" only to get yelled at for being a manipulative, machiavellian, sociopath, who tries to trick girls into bed by being nice to them. Then you get the "real nice guys" talk, and sooner or later you come to realize that everything you know is wrong. "Real nice guys" are just alphas in motion. And this "nice" thing that you've been doing because everyone told you to is essentially cutting your own balls off.

2014-07-19T19:41:57+00:00

The truth will always cause anger because it breaks the bubble that they live in and removes all the lies they rationalized as truths.

~Father Bot who art in Trp hallowed be thy name, thy banning come, thy moderation be done. On trp as it is in other subreddits. Amen~

Geryon667 · 2014-07-19T15:40:27+00:00

I love how the author tries to be all scientific, but then pulls this out of his ass:

...the Internet allows people who would otherwise have been loner outcasts to band together.

Circa 99% of the time this is a very good thing. The other 1%, though, gives us communities like “The Red Pill,” the misogynist hate site which became infamous after Elliot Rodger’s killing spree in Santa Barbara earlier this year.

If Jon Evans, the TC hack that wrote that piece would point to some evidence of this claim, that would be cool.

1ww1ww1 · 2014-07-19T23:28:54+00:00

Due to the heritability of poverty and low IQs, we propose eugenics as the most effective long term solution for controlling entitlement spending.

So which part is she angry about, the premise or the conclusion? The premise has been shown time and time again to be true. The conclusion is for eugenics, or a science that deals with the improvement (as by control of human mating) of hereditary qualities of a race or breed. The thing about eugenics is that it's happening all the time, it's culture-imposed. The reason so many intelligent people don't have children is because they either don't have the time or the money (from living in areas that have absurd living expenses like SF and NYC). Right now we are facing dysgenics because high-IQ people typically have one child and low-IQ people typically have more than three. There's nothing wrong about organizing society such that the most intelligent have the most children. Don't attest this idea because of the oogy-boogy word "eugenics".

Circa 99% of the time this is a very good thing. The other 1%, though, gives us communities like “The Red Pill,” the misogynist hate site which became infamous after Elliot Rodger’s killing spree in Santa Barbara earlier this year.

I hope she isn't implying that Rodger was a fan of PUA-related communities. Because he wasn't. He hated them. He wanted to murder men because of it, and he succeeded in doing so.

Moresolater · 2014-07-19T20:04:32+00:00

Wolves care not for the opinion of sheep

slkrk · 2014-07-19T20:20:56+00:00

Circa 99% of the time this is a very good thing. The other 1%, though, gives us communities like “The Red Pill,” the misogynist hate site which became infamous after Elliot Rodger’s killing spree in Santa Barbara earlier this year

They should just say we're icky and save a paragraph.

Labore_Et_Constantia · 2014-07-19T21:39:36+00:00

And here come the subbbssss

62,550 as of now, I expect we'll soon be 63k+

Let them keep talking, at the end of the day the truth in this sub-section is so pure that if you guys notice, there ALWAYS is a "TRP changed my life" post 3-4 weeks after anybody writes some shaming article about us.

LET THE SUBS COMMENCE!

puaSenator · 2014-07-19T21:32:11+00:00

Oh more of this, "The Red Pill and the Manosphere is where Elliot Rodgers came from", bullshit. How long is it going to take until these people understand he was an active crusader AGAINST us.

LineOfCoke · 2014-07-20T00:13:36+00:00

bunch of women and no pussy gettin niggas. basically par for the course.

dallz_beep · 2014-07-19T17:49:22+00:00

They're mad because we fuck their girlfriends.

EDIT: Or at least, the women they wish were their girlfriends.

2014-07-19T18:55:24+00:00

If it's the internet, you might as well play to that misogyny to piss these idiots off even more.

DarkSayed · 2014-07-19T20:29:54+00:00

LOL, every time someone makes a ridiculous comparison the numbers here inflate.

chairmobile · 2014-07-20T00:10:08+00:00

Free advertising, thanks techcrunch!

srtor · 2014-07-19T17:38:12+00:00

When truth and logic destroys your falsehood, you resort to hate.

edit: As noted before, stop posting direct link to these hateful sites.

Satchmo84 · 2014-07-19T17:54:40+00:00

Nothing boosts subscribers like obvious bullshit. Good thing there are intelligent people out there that like to learn for themselves and not just take some morons word. Facts are for suckers, lemme just pull this anecdotal chart out of my ass to explain how this works. Elliot Rodgers was a frustrated lonely man full of hate, The Red Pill is full of frustrated lonely men, and nobody hates more than Stormfront. It's all comin together...

foodstampsforpussy · 2014-07-19T18:29:16+00:00

TRP really isn't for everyone anyway. Either you can distinguish the truth and work to improve yourself or reject it and live an "easier" life. Betas will be betas.

smile_e_face · 2014-07-19T18:13:01+00:00

The best part is how he simply states the connection between Stormfront - an actual hate site - and TRP without substantiating it in any way. He just sort of slides Red Pill into one of the middle paragraphs and moves along, hoping his readers will make the association without actually thinking about it. It's a classic tactic of politicians, marketers, and yellow journalists. What a shameless hack.

Panzer_Geist · 2014-07-19T17:42:22+00:00

Don't be surprised. People love to live in their little bubble. They don't want to be told the truth - they want safety. Even if that safety is only an illusion it's still much more comfortable than the cold hard truth. It REALLY is the red pill from the Matrix. Would you really want to know that your whole life is a computer program? Wouldn't it be more comfortable to live the lie? You have to realize that the vast majority of humanity are followers and non-achievers. The do-or-die:ers only make up a fraction of the population. The followers will go along with whatever zeitgeist is currently favored by the masses be it it communism, fascism or feminism.

A lion does not concern itself with the option of the sheep.

GayLubeOil · 2014-07-19T20:53:26+00:00

All the girls I show my posts to think they are hilarious. Id like to see these sjwtards explain that.

ZyklonBen1488 · 2014-07-19T21:01:55+00:00

Did someone seriously say stormfront was part of the Dark Enlightenment? Stormfront is a literal joke. Fucking /pol/ is a better fit to the Dark Enlightenment and it's 90% shitposting.

rolfsaurusrex · 2014-07-19T21:30:56+00:00

cooperation matrix

objective morality

I know using data makes one think "empirical" = "objective", but that doesn't make it so.

I challenge anyone who claims to have objective knowledge to show me how, in this case for instance, getting along with people I agree with (and subsequently shunning those I dont) makes my viewpoint somehow objectively right.

He's referring to the tyranny of the majority. Nothing objective about flawed mortals banding together and agreeing on shit.

It's ludicrous. I'm of the thought that there's no knowable, objective truth at all, but that's another topic all its own.

EDIT: formatting

rockmasterflex · 2014-07-20T00:57:39+00:00

Is there a reason why anybody would value TechCrunch's opinion on something entirely philosophical and distinctly nontechnical?

thepillwastaken · 2014-07-20T02:38:47+00:00

Im a little surprised some TRP members are making Facebook comments on that page and identifying themselves so openly.

No necessarily the best idea. Tread carefully.

Jovianmoons · 2014-07-20T05:49:38+00:00

Screenshot and post it. Dont give them clicks!

Entrefut · 2014-07-20T06:13:15+00:00

FEED ME MORE HATRED. THE MORE HATE I GET THE BIGGER MY GAINS WILL BE.

manofadventure4 · 2014-07-20T06:13:20+00:00

This is ridiculous. No one at theredpill hates misogynists...

vaker · 2014-07-20T07:24:53+00:00

some of these people are clearly highly intelligent, and pour an enormous amount of effort into their work

It didn't occur to the author that these highly intelligent people are maybe, you know, right...

juanqunt · 2014-07-20T15:24:59+00:00

Damn I'm disappointed. Thought TechCrunch was pretty cool... jokes on them, but a lot of the entrepreneurs they feature are redpillers.

bongwaterblack · 2014-07-19T18:25:42+00:00

They offered no explanation why TRP is a hate site, just a passing reference and nothing more.

2014-07-19T22:11:12+00:00

Which is just a reminder to everybody:

Don't talk about TRP to anybody. People online who act like us are demonized by idiots, but in the real world people who act in a RP way are the top of the food chain.

Don't worry about what people say, worry about what they do. If RP is working for you in real life, don't worry about what anybody else says about it.

MooMooMooN · 2014-07-19T23:31:46+00:00

ok.. so.. men talking openly about women = misogyny ?

yeah. no.

Glenbert · 2014-07-19T19:32:52+00:00

WTF, Stormfront is by no means misogynistic!

drewbaccha · 2014-07-19T16:50:10+00:00

It's amazing to witness the sheer propensity of ignorance pouring out of the PC charged SJW cube. It isn't difficult to imagine TRP being mis-alinged with a pariah when the people assigning the labels haven't the faintest idea about whom they are chortling about.

TRP is to a hate group as Jenny Craig is to being a proponent of osteoperosis.

sniperhiding · 2014-07-19T19:46:53+00:00

This is a shit test. Agree and amplify, or just ignore.

cdp0 · 2014-07-20T04:31:18+00:00

Leftist scum are ruining the interwebs.

ohsweetword · 2014-07-19T21:05:35+00:00

Well gee, I guess I should just stop because these cunts wrote a silly article.

Kraou · 2014-07-19T18:20:28+00:00

How is this meta?

It's a bit boring to see any shitpost being quoted here "lookie those random people say bad stuff about us", but I must say this article had generally interesting things in it.

Even though eigenmorality might be a misnomer (eigentrust would be more adequate - "trustworthy people tend to reciprocate"), the idea that (software) tools can be made to reduce the circle jerking "power" (google filters circle jerk-linking more or less effectively) in discussion spaces is interesting. Surely, there is some circle jerking in TRP, aswell as elsewhere.

One serious, but apparently insufficient, downside to eigenfactor (for medical and scientific publications, like the impact factor - but this is applicable for anything similar) is that "The observator influences the observation". On a micro level, you can apply that to physics, on macro level you can apply this to the concept of "Double Blind Experiment": the observer has its bias, the observed know they are observed and will act differently. So, as soon as we know about an eigenfactor that is used to measure your morality, or trustworthyness, or whatever, we will start "waste" our time cheating. People write empty publications to gain impact factor points. People who don't and focus on real skills (other than writing good publications) are devalued: building the metric becomes a chore (in a sense, school function like that aswell).

Anyway, isnt it nice to read the author bashing "Grey enlightnement" because they are proponents of eugenics, and in the same time think about a world scale eigennumber that would help detecting the origin of "bad ideas", I guess so we could abort them? Controlling genes: no; controlling ideas: yes.

SmallEyesRoughSkin · 2014-07-20T01:38:48+00:00

You've already lost and it would be time to take it guerrilla over the internet if it was for prism making all that null & void. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

OrpheusV · 2014-07-20T04:34:50+00:00

No such thing as bad publicity, so the saying goes.

IDefyAxioms · 2014-07-20T04:47:45+00:00

So, I haven't quite figured this out yet:

What's with tech groups/sites and being extremely BP?

2014-07-20T06:07:50+00:00

If youre a white male who believes you have rights youre a terrorist!

mormon-virgin · 2014-07-20T06:25:13+00:00

The author is Canadian. What do you expect

Dreamtrain · 2014-07-20T06:40:53+00:00

The hilarious thing is, this sub gets bad-mouthed, people go to see what's all about, starts reading some posts and holy shit, something clicks, they start to realize why it was their fault they were friend zoned that one time, why their crush keeps dating "assholes" but don't doesn't even sees him as a male, why despite being so nice and selfless people keep walking over them, or for some older guys why his fiancee or wife just up and completely ruined his life. And they see how much of this is within their control to take responsibility instead of blaming women about it (but oh wait, this is supposed to be a misogynist sub).

Just look at the number of subscribers, not long ago the 50k mark was hit and topic were made to put things in perspective to the newcomers. Right now its at 60k...

Hopefully the mods here won't make the same decision r/twoxc mods made if this ends up being offered to be a default.

dvidsilva · 2014-07-20T07:47:03+00:00

Is it only me, or do you find it disgusting that he used the word circa twice in the article.

dirtboxchampion · 2014-07-20T08:54:59+00:00

Elliot Rogers was against they Manosphere, just like TechCrunch and feminists.

johnnight · 2014-07-20T09:44:59+00:00

By the way, since when did "MRA" become a slur on the level of "nazi"?

hipst · 2014-07-20T13:25:57+00:00

It's interesting these articles coming out now.

They must be at stage 3.

At stage 4, we win.

2014-07-19T18:59:14+00:00

the author fails to make a point. thanks for the free advertising, well except for stormfront, not that stormfront is unknown online due to their shills.

thesaltysoup · 2014-07-19T18:46:19+00:00

Hello publicity, and thank you progressives.

"That nasty wasty Red Pill: their worldview directly threatens ours, so they must be mentioned in the same breath with Jew haters and Nazis".

2014-07-20T00:23:10+00:00

Both sites promote an important awareness.

Beardsman2 · 2014-07-20T03:52:10+00:00

Stormfront isn't a "hate site" either.

DonAdy · 2014-07-20T02:35:57+00:00

Well...you are a hate site. I've seen very few sites that are as hateful as redpill. Maybe once you guys realize that being a piece of shit will only get you the shit woman you complain about you can enter the real world. You guys attract the worst kind of woman and then claim that all women are the same. They're not. Get over yourselves. You'll never be truly happy until you do.

GoodTimesDadIsland · 2014-07-20T05:40:07+00:00

FYI over half of your subscribers are people like me who come for the sheer cringe of your content, lol.

thesubtleshill · 2014-07-19T18:47:56+00:00

Maybe you guys should just embrace it, give the enemy the left so desires and see if they still act the same.

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