What does she bring to the table?

loneliness-inc · 2021-09-26T04:48:26+00:00

Marriage is a business.

Yes it is.

A highly unbalanced business partnership in which there are vastly different expectations from and benefits to, the man and the woman.

Obligations on the man:

To financially support her. Yes, this is still an expectation.
To emotionally support her regardless of how turbulent her emotions may be or what impact they may have on you.
To do chores around the house.
To help take care of the kids.
To be faithful to her.
To make enough money while also having plenty of time for her.
To be happy as a clam when she isn't in the moooooooooooooooood for sex, but to be hungry for sex and last long enough - when she is in the mooooooooooooooooooood.
To take initiative and be responsible for anything that needs responsibility.

Obligations on the woman:

None! She doesn't owe you anything, you antiquated misogynist pig!!!

Benefits to the man:

Because there are no obligations upon the woman, no benefits can be secured for the man. He will only get what she gives him, when she feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeels like giving it to him.

Benefits to the woman:

In addition to the things for which her husband is responsible to provide for her - she has the full backing of family, friends, the media, social media, the police, several court systems, government welfare, special privileges, hiring quotas and bodily autonomy.

If anything goes wrong, she can always ~~quit her job as a wife~~ divorce rape his ass and make him give her half the assets + alimony and child support (that's paid to her).

Yes. Marriage is a business. A shit sandwich of a business for men. What big benefit do men get that justifies such tremendous risk?

bUt yOu gEt tO pRoCLaiM yOuR LoOOOooOvE tO yOuR fAmiLy aNd fRiEnDzzz.

STFU.

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STFU.

Cheers!

Typo-MAGAshiv · 2021-09-24T21:46:42+00:00

Woman, if you're so hung up on a goddamn rock with a value that's completely artificially inflated and that was most likely mined using goddamn slave labor, that it causes you to care more about that fucking rock than what you and your prospective husband mean to each other, you are not wife material at all, but a gold digging whore (or WHO-AAHHH for those of you from NY/NJ).

SocialAssassin4Hire · 2021-09-24T21:48:20+00:00

She is going to end up buying a ring for herself when she’s 45 with six cats.

yellomachine · 2021-09-24T21:53:27+00:00

Yeah it's a business. It's an industry and generally, a scam.

Aaod · 2021-09-24T22:05:36+00:00

Sorry but the Disney princess didn't have a partner count of 15+ and two kids so why should you get a prince charming? They also tended to be good looking, young, and with a good personality. You are below average, middle aged, and have a personality so bad you cause ear plug manufacturers to have tears of joy.

I don't even know where to begin with the pseudo spiritual nonsense you use to excuse your gold digging.

FUJB46 · 2021-09-24T21:58:24+00:00

Now do a rant about women need to stop bringing out of wedlock kids into relationships/marriages. I’ll wait.

Chip512 · 2021-09-24T22:02:28+00:00

3 carat for $3,500 is going to be a low quality diamond - might be big but the cut/color/clarity isn’t going to be very good. As far as the business aspect, the quote from the movie War Games comes to mind “The only way to win is not to play”. Our legal system does seem to favor the f**k boys who impregnate and flee leaving a lot of single moms in their wake.

panzer22222 · 2021-09-25T02:55:22+00:00

I have two female relatives that rejected marriage proposals from guys that werent willing to spend big $$ on a ring, we are talking +$20k level.

In both cases as soon as the woman brought a $$ value into the discussion it was like a light blub went off in the guys head. The whole thing went from something romantic to a business transaction....one where the guy would think 'umm i have my own business, own 3 houses while you travelled the last 5 years and are in debt...yea think I will pass'.

And yes both these women are still not married years later.

Jimdandy941 · 2021-09-24T21:57:48+00:00

Insisting on a big expensive ring is a deal breaker. Buy a regular, ring then have a killer honeymoon.

LegacyDust59178 · 2021-09-24T22:35:13+00:00

When she said inanimate object I thought she was about to refer to herself

Impressive-Cricket-8 · 2021-09-24T22:23:57+00:00

Yes, it's a business. And since you're demanding for some serious financial backing, what am I investing into? What are my projected returns? How am I protected in case the business goes south? I'm not signing on the dotted line unless I have a reasonable expectation of great return. Otherwise, my time and money are better spent in other endeavours.

Also, [insert argument about differences in return between buying and renting].

me_at_myhouse · 2021-09-24T22:24:07+00:00

Wait, what assets does she bring to the 'business'?

As most of you know, diamonds are not inherently 'valuable'. Their price is controlled by a syndicate and their marketing campaign inducing men to spend 2 or 3 months salary on a diamond has been one of the best (if misguided) marketing campaigns ever.

If a women was truly business smart, she would demand pure gold (not 14k or 24k). The price of gold continues to go up, yet diamonds are like a new car. They depreciate in value as soon as they leave the showroom.

manfrom-nantucket · 2021-09-24T22:44:17+00:00

Sorry I have better things to do with my money and no, I have no interest in starting a business with a woman.

MelkorHimself · 2021-09-24T23:33:48+00:00

If you want us to see things with our "third eye", then you better be prepared to use your brown eye. Fair warning: I'm very thick.

BusinessBear53 · 2021-09-25T01:08:02+00:00

Business deals normally require justification of a return on investment. You don't drop 10K on a heavily depreciating asset. With a piss poor attitude like hers, she not even worth buying an onion ring.

I foresee cats and a cheap ring she buys when she 'marries herself' because no sane man should wife that up.

Joaquino7997 · 2021-09-24T22:15:36+00:00

The only ring she deserves that's 3ct. or more is an onion ring.

Actually, no. She doesn't even deserve that.

No-Statistician1362 · 2021-09-24T22:50:58+00:00

I'll do you one better how about I don't marry you or any woman at all. Sounds better.

2021-09-24T22:18:08+00:00

Yes what can you do? Other than be a liability?

nillafrosty · 2021-09-24T22:45:10+00:00

She is so far off on what rings cost good lord

UncleDad_AuntMom · 2021-09-24T23:27:41+00:00

Marriage is legal prostitution without the happy ending so she has a point there, but damn she a how.

youthatguyoverthere · 2021-09-25T07:02:58+00:00

My history teacher had parents who survived the holocaust. Her dad made two wedding rings out of two coins. Not even silver. They died of old age together.

Marriage is a union, a bond, a pact and a vow. It is a family.

FUUUUUUCK THAT STUPID FUCKING CUNT!

Gaiinahat · 2021-09-24T23:40:12+00:00

Offers her a $.35 Ring Pop...

Corn_in_your_pussy · 2021-09-25T02:50:30+00:00

Odd how women ask for this, but go silent when you ask them about what they're offering

asdf333aza · 2021-09-25T05:22:25+00:00

Better yet stop getting married. Marriage in the modern day is basically just a government sanctioned transfer of wealth from men to women.

DefiantFlatworm4833 · 2021-09-24T22:55:03+00:00

3500 is cheap! My Audi’s wheels are more expensive!

PopularBug5 · 2021-09-24T23:43:10+00:00

That's right. What can you do for each other? So what do you have to offer?

Nothing. So you GTFO.

BANTTIMMY · 2021-09-24T23:48:58+00:00

Imagine the total shit 3 carat stone you can buy for 3500... If the ring is also in that price good lord.

She would cut your balls off if you got a lab grown one and she ever found out but apparently a cloudy poorly cut stone that should have ended up on an industrial bit is what she is after.

Keep in mind its all a racket but her ignorance is hilarious.

ganjakhan85 · 2021-09-25T01:07:25+00:00

And this is why I'm single. I know what I bring to the table, and after they showed up, it didn't get any fuller.

Harry_Teak · 2021-09-25T01:31:09+00:00

I do agree with her that marriage is a business. It's one of the worst business decisions a man can possibly make, if not the worst.

What does she bring to the table? Three holes that will be available for your pleasure up to and possibly including the honeymoon. After that, well, your mileage may vary. The saddest bastards of all I think are the lads who marry because they think they've secured a sex partner by doing so.

DonnyBomeneddy · 2021-09-25T04:32:37+00:00

Who hurt her?

ArrowGantOne · 2021-09-25T05:02:44+00:00

If someone gave this gold digging thot a loose 3 carat diamond she'd try to put it in a pipe and smoke it.

A high quality 1 carat will cost $3500+ and she sure as hell isn't worth 3 months of MY pay.

Disney messed HER up making her think princesses still exist.

I-am-the-lul · 2021-09-25T07:05:32+00:00

The laws concerning marriage as well as the massive bias in favour of women make heterosexual marriage quite possibly the shittiest of all contracts that a man can ever sign up for.

He is expected to fulfil his side of the marriage contract, while she can pretty much say "Nope, I don't have to do shit for you" and you more or less have to lump it, even worse, she can end the contract and you still have to pay most if not all of costs of divorce, this is why the rejection of marriage (and even cohabitation) is core to men of a MGTOW mindset.

PatnarDannesman · 2021-09-25T07:41:59+00:00

The depreciating asset thinks it's a business transaction. Oh, the irony.

Nighttime_Song · 2021-09-25T19:03:34+00:00

There was actually a study by a pair of economists at Emory University that found that the more money spent on the wedding and engagement ring, the less likely the marriage was to succeed.

See: Francis-Tan, Andrew and Hugo M. Mialon. "'A Diamond is Forever' and Other Fairy Tales: The Relationship Between Wedding Expenses and Marriage Duration." Economic Inquiry. Volume 53, No. 4. https://doi.org/10.1111/ecin.12206

Abstract: In this study, we evaluate the association between wedding spending and marriage duration using data from a survey of more than 3,000 ever-married persons in the United States. Controlling for a number of demographic and relationship characteristics, we find evidence that marriage duration is inversely associated with spending on the engagement ring and wedding ceremony. (JEL J12, Z1, D1)

However, they did find that having a reasonably priced engagement ring is better than having a very cheap ring ( < $500), or none at all. Their estimates place the optimal amount spent on a wedding ring between $500 and $2000. Any more or less than that, and you increase your probability of divorce.

The purported causal mechanism is the obvious one. Basically, if you spend a lot of money on the engagement ring and the wedding, the resulting financial stress puts a strain on the marriage and makes it more likely to end in divorce.

So from a business perspective, it seems this woman's assertions about an expensive engagement ring providing a strong foundation for marriage are not supported by the data.

thedukeinc · 2021-09-24T22:40:45+00:00

Used up something something

OG-Bradley-D · 2021-09-25T00:27:21+00:00

She wants a 3ct. ring does she ?

https://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5387129/il_570xN.197102405.jpg

Here you go bitch , start sucking ...

reignoferror00 · 2021-09-25T01:13:58+00:00

Which would be a better business decision an expensive ring and fantasy wedding that will put you both in debt right from the start or say perhaps a down payment on a house which, unlikely your dream fantasy Disney wedding, is more than a one day "investment". Disney messed whose head up????

Yes, what can we do for each other? Get back to the drawing board and figure out what you can offer him other than your rapidly depreciating body (which you will take away whenever the mood strikes), and a personality that starts off as I'll very charitably call it, subpar. It will only get much, much worse as hard as that is to believe. If this is you putting your best foot forward, remember there is only so much room in your mouth no matter how big it seems.

Adalmodus · 2021-09-25T01:20:33+00:00

Marriage is a business, that's why I want stay out of it lol

littlestminks · 2021-09-25T02:00:24+00:00

This is the stupidest shit I’ve ever read. Idk where to even begin… lmao at the financial backing to start a business. Okayyyy so if this is a business, what’s her job? Dumb. Depends on the man. If he can afford it, why not. But seriously not everyone can, wants to, or finds it practical and that should be respected as well. Whoever she marries will be miserable af married to her.

Also ain’t no 3ct gonna be $3500. Try 0.5ct. My main center diamond is 2ct and it was well over 10k. But this was the least of the dumb shit she just spewed. And while I’m at it, happily ever after marriages are real. People fall in love and spend the rest of their lives together.. def not unheard of. Shit I’m one of them. But for her, won’t ever happen.

HurrDurrGrammurr · 2021-09-25T05:08:11+00:00

Well my "business" partner would have better grammar than

Disney messed y'all heads up

Katowice_to_gdansk · 2021-09-25T09:09:01+00:00

Lmfao why would I want to start a business with a woman y'all can't manage money for shit

breadcake5245 · 2021-09-25T17:59:23+00:00

My husband got me a $2,500 engagement ring and I thought that was so expensive, I felt bad. Then I had a co-worker almost laugh at me, and said she told her boyfriend he had to propose with a $10k ring from Tiffany’s or she would say no. He worked at Papa John’s at the time. When she asked me to be in her wedding, I said no because my husband hated her. I am shocked at how entitled some women are. Also I’m sorry if women aren’t allowed to comment here, please delete if so.

Jeviok · 2021-09-25T18:41:46+00:00

"Nothing says I love you like a lump of carbon, mined by wage-slaves in Angola."

PopRevolutionary1475 · 2021-09-25T03:05:11+00:00

She don't bring shit to the table except drama and demands of a materialistic lifestyle

Bob_and_Virginia · 2021-09-25T04:21:02+00:00

FDS Kween! Yaaaaasssss! Respek!

taavidude · 2021-09-25T04:58:09+00:00

I can smell the gold digging from here.

Paellamonster · 2021-09-25T06:32:00+00:00

3ct is much, much more then 3.500 $ (it’s more like 30.000 - 200.000 depending on the diamond “C”s)

Moral of the Story: If you are a goldigging entitlement queen, at least get your facts right. what a moron!

liberalbutnotcrazy · 2021-09-25T06:48:35+00:00

I totally understand that the diamond market is completely inflated and controlled by cartels, but do you have any idea what kind of shit quality diamond you are going to get if you pay $4K for 3 carats?

A “quality” diamond that’s 3 carats is anything from $30K - $120K

OwenWentFullMGTOW · 2021-09-25T07:05:35+00:00

It would be lovely if all men began insisting on a dowry as a condition of marriage*. In so many ways...

^\ If you) ^must ^{get married}

MastermindX · 2021-09-25T09:31:10+00:00

You're investing in a business.

Think of it like this: you're an investor, and she's Evergrande.

Wtfbyamey1 · 2021-09-25T10:34:06+00:00

A pussy used by 3000 men

That’s why you gotta 1$/men she’s fucked

ShakenMemeMagic · 2021-09-25T10:37:38+00:00

I mean... Technically she's not wrong about Disney twisting views on marriage...

'Cause there's a bunch of 2's and 3's (with multiple kids sometimes) that think they're Cinderella and should be treated as such.

bryonwart · 2021-09-25T10:57:01+00:00

And yet she offers nothing for the contract.

PhantomCowboy · 2021-09-25T11:58:32+00:00

Risk and Pain are the big ones

PhantomCowboy · 2021-09-25T11:59:07+00:00

wahmen are a business and business is booming!

tikanderoga · 2021-09-25T13:50:14+00:00

Sounds like someone has no idea how a business works. A ring is dead capital. And this one looks like she will kill any kind of capital with this attitude.

soytuamigo · 2021-09-25T14:03:29+00:00

There's some truth in the second paragraph, she's just way overestimating the value she brings to this prospective business. But I digress, men in general would do well to heed her advice and see marriage as a business, and realize how lopsided and risky that partnership is for men nowadays.

xcalibercaliber · 2021-09-25T14:52:49+00:00

And I would thank her for telling me upfront what a bad investment she is.

vtec__ · 2021-09-25T15:13:20+00:00

shes not wrong. this is why men are opting out of marriage today. whether you're making 50k a year or 500k a year, most of us do not want to give up half of our assets

wanderingNotLost1980 · 2021-09-25T15:35:34+00:00

Aside from being a gold Digger; she also just clearly showed she knows nothing about actual quality diamonds. 3ct is a HUGE diamond. A 3ct diamond that sells for $3500 will be garbage, just a step above industrial grade, and will look no better than a piece of cut glass (a CZ that size will actually sparkle more). For reference, the central stone in my wife's ring (just the stone, before adding the band) was $1600 and that was in 2008. It is 0.62ct. A QUALITY 3ct stone costs about 10x what she seems to think it does.

Xaedrek · 2021-09-25T16:13:02+00:00

If marriage is a business, spending thousands of dollars on a functionally useless item isn't very sound business practice

alldaycray · 2021-09-25T16:42:47+00:00

Haha and what exactly is my ROI if I fork over 3.5k?

If it's a business you need to convince me you're worth 3.5k otherwise why am I investing money into this "business."

Hunk_Maggot · 2021-09-25T22:29:42+00:00

What does she bring to the table?

Baggage, depression, headaches, insecurity.

Affording this woman is like paying to have cancer: constant dates to get quimio, suffering for trying to live another day.

Individual451 · 2021-09-26T00:12:13+00:00

I'm confused? She wants to give me a non-materialistic $3,500 ring?

ltde5150 · 2021-09-26T00:28:53+00:00

Ah.... pretty certain you're not going to get any sort of decent quality 3ct diamond ring for $3500. Maybe 1ct. 2ct, if it's yellow and dull as a turd.

tokats · 2021-09-26T01:16:26+00:00

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t a ring supposed to cost 3-6 months of your salary in most cultures?

Reorx2112 · 2021-09-27T14:40:15+00:00

my wife choose a 300$ topaz gem stone ring. And was happy as fuck.. Diamonds are fuckery. If your woman loves you. The ring thing is nonsensical. She bought my ring and it fits around my cock .... so

Typo-MAGAshiv · 2021-09-25T04:54:37+00:00

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Alturius · 2021-09-25T11:13:09+00:00

What sane business person is going to 'invest' in over-inflated assets? If the business is "all fur coat and no knickers" - just for show, then it won't be viable.

Business is about taking risks! If this woman is not sure about a ring less than 3ct, then she isn't a risk taker, she's trying to play safe. She's not a business person as she cannot recognise potential, and lacks the patience and maturity to wait for that potential to be realised. Businesses develop and their potential is realised over time. Not straight up at a start up, go fund me meeting. This woman is talking at business start up level but wants Apple Inc.

If marriage is a business then she should have no problem signing a prenup contract. After all, businesses use similar contracts to protect their interests during mergers. So if she cheats or fails to deliver on her end of the contract, then she forfeits the said ring and everything else.

I presume that she is also going to be stumping up a 3ct ring to show her commitment to the new business venture? To be in on the profits you have to be a shareholder and/or business partner! That means stumping up some of your own cash. So, unless she is also bringing something of equal value, then we don't have a business deal, just a list of demands.

gfgdhj5784yu8 · 2021-09-26T07:12:18+00:00

Reading that gave me a headache....... both heads.

Hy3w_mong0u5 · 2021-09-26T08:32:09+00:00

How about no, you absolute leech.

Let me guess, he's expected to pay all of the bills, pay all of her debts, pay for her kids from other men, pay for her gas, pay for her car repairs, pay to take her and her kids out on vacation/days out, lavish her with gifts and now he's being judged on how much he spends on a ring? And HE'S deemed the loser after making himself ill chasing the approval of a freeloader? Nope xInfinity!

karluvonne · 2021-09-26T10:29:15+00:00

Marriage is a really shifty business for men. No way to come out alive.

GundamZero83 · 2021-09-26T13:40:24+00:00

Show me a 3ct diamond ring for 3500$ and I’ll buy it right now lol, I’m so glad I married a girl I went to school with, and grew up with the same values, I fear for my sons having to deal with this kind of woman.

BluepillProfessor · 2021-09-26T14:05:52+00:00

Darling want a business analysis?

For $3800 you could trade in that 36y year old harridan for two 18 y/o sugar baby yearlings and put them on retainer for nearly an entire year.

full_control · 2021-09-26T16:33:54+00:00

What is laughable is she doesn't know crap about diamonds. A 3c for $3500 is either stolen or completely horrible diamond quality. Size is only one aspect, a good quality diamond at 1c will cost way more than $3500.

Strider_Tolstoi · 2021-09-27T16:06:18+00:00

These degenerate women love to say "it's just a business". No it's not you Godless wretch, you fool no one.

maruadventurer · 2021-09-28T14:49:23+00:00

Well sweetie that's no problem. I won't marry you and I will take the $3500 and buy some gold coins. Paraphrase Churchill --

Madam, you will be uglier a decade from now, I at least will still have the gold.

braucifur · 2021-09-28T15:17:29+00:00

I'm guessing she's one of those types that is always talking about "starting a business" because she is a "big boss lady CEO". But her business is non-existent: there is no way she is capable of filing the forms and actually having a viable business that brings in customers or even has one employee.

People that incessantly talk about "starting a business" aren't real businesspeople or entrepreneurs, both of whom realize starting a business on paper is super easy. It's growing and running one that is the hard part.

Maybe she did get a small business loan and open some sort of retail space, but I rather doubt it. People that even go that far don't talk about "starting a business" once they have one to run or have ran one before.

ghoulcreep · 2021-09-28T16:24:59+00:00

A 3ct diamond is gonna be way more than $3500. I'd imagine even a garbage diamond that big would be more.

Vikingbeard1 · 2021-09-29T05:45:16+00:00

A business...how? The only way this metaphor even works is if she is literally saying "Your love as a couple needs an initial investment of all this cash on HER finger to grow into anything substantial" which would literally mean it's 100% based on materialism. But even then, it doesn't quite match what she says, as she seems to be implying even MORE investment is needed--I realize she is actually a gold digger, but I am trying to figure out what she even thought she was saying that, in her head, did not seem like gold digging 101.

WalnutManTrader · 2021-10-02T02:39:04+00:00

Women will never understand that it isn’t that we don’t have the money, it’s just that we don’t want to spend it on THEM.

kerty7 · 2021-10-02T23:01:08+00:00

Better to buy stocks than a ring, at least stocks could appreciate in value

ThrownAwayAcc1407 · 2021-10-05T10:51:45+00:00

"Disney messed y'all heads up with the, "happily ever after," phase" LMFAO the irony -> her dense stupid mind filled with romcoms and she thinks she's the leader of the relationship.

YesYesYesVeryGood · 2021-10-11T02:54:36+00:00

A vasectomy costs less than $3,500 (USD).

Treat yo self.

Title	What does she bring to the table?
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Date	September 24, 2021 5:01 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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None! She doesn't owe you anything, you antiquated misogynist pig!!!

STFU.

STFU.