Can an average man have chances with a higher-status woman?

Wrong_Bar_5158 · 2024-02-07T22:17:30+00:00

They want to sell you their product. You always need something to exchange. Attractiveness or high future potential for example.

marks1995 · 2024-02-07T22:15:24+00:00

Nope. Not if you view her as higher status.

99.9% want a man who is a leader and confident. And you can't be a leader and act confident when you view yourself as inferior to someone else.

knetwotheeeee · 2024-02-07T22:09:04+00:00

No they don’t. Especially with that attitude calling yourself average.

Excellent-Archer-238 · 2024-02-07T22:59:39+00:00

Of course. You ever heard stories about a rich wife cheating on her husband with the gardener? It happens a lot. But in most cases, when a woman hooks up down, it will just be a secret affair, nothing serious.

There are certain exceptions like when a rich girl meets some random dude in uni and they start dating. Sometimes they last, most of the time they don't because of the dude's insecurities regarding her status and his (Walter White comes to my mind lol).

So long story short: yes, an average man can have chances with a higher-status woman, but they are niche opportunities and usually nothing serious.

kingtechllc · 2024-02-08T00:55:27+00:00

Be the man the woman wants. That’s basically it. Be a combination of good looking, funny, wealthy, confident, leader, ambitious, etc. be a valuable man

OrganizationOdd1576 · 2024-02-07T23:00:53+00:00

In our country. We had a bootcamp seminar from a renowned “artist”. At the end of the bootcamp they showed an infield video of one of the guys from the team.

At the start of the video, the camera was showing a resto bar. It was almost packed with people but not too much. We see the guy who’s the subject of the infield video. He approached a girl that has a 2 or 3 bodyguards on the bar but the guards are not that too close to them.

Long story short, when the infield guy finished his routines he stood up with the girl to dance and the girl turned towards the camera, damn she was a famous local celebrity.

Fyi. They don’t know each other. I can tell because it was a cold approach. And damn, every one of the guys, including me, in the seminar was in fucking disbelief of what we’ve seen. I think it was their highest selling point among other infield demo.

Moral if the story: You can do what you think is impossible 😂😂😂😂

Dandys3107 · 2024-02-07T22:27:18+00:00

I guess you need to present extraordinarny value in some aspect. Average doesn't really exist, there are just plenty of people that did not find their niche in life. Or don't care.

Sudden-Conference-65 · 2024-02-07T23:02:50+00:00

Higher status looks wise only? Few things to consider:

They tend to be very high maintenance and live lives full of drama;
It’s cliche but you need to be very alpha to the point of borderline violent to “control” these kinds of women;
They get bored very easily;
They are accustomed to a certain type of life (eg. I don’t take Ubers only silver service taxis) and will rarely want to give that up so unless you chump up for expensive dinners, dates, trips away they view you as cheap and will find someone else.

Now because they look great there are streams of men willing to put up with this shit.

The other type of high status women is the already wealthy one. These are easier to get because money isn’t a huge factor for them, they have that, they are after connection, romance and love. There’s often a trade off in the looks department with these women though. Often very successful in business or career.

This has just been my experience.

cemj86 · 2024-02-07T22:54:37+00:00

Absolutely you do.they're all women at the end of the day and crave the same thing. But I'll guarantee that if you look at yourself as average and think that just because she has a little more money for a higher education that she's better than you then go ahead and just forfeit the thought right then and there.

Darkwriter22s · 2024-02-07T23:46:24+00:00

Are you funny?

ghrinz · 2024-02-07T22:52:53+00:00

Firstly, stop putting women under pedestal. Secondly, stop putting yourself under average. At least act to be the best version of yourself.

And finally, yes. Give value and don’t seek value, that’s what defines your social status.

TripleDigitNomad · 2024-02-08T00:31:53+00:00

He can, by becoming above average. Either through appearance or status. Or by convincing the woman he is above average even if he's not.

Miguell7 · 2024-02-08T00:35:26+00:00

Yea but you need to have strong inner confidence and self-belief.

mmxmlee · 2024-02-08T01:43:42+00:00

they fuck down in looks more often than not.

they date and marry up in financial status more often than not.

Sandvicheater · 2024-02-08T04:25:31+00:00

Yep if there's one thing all PUA, colored pills, feminist, alpha male school, democrat, republican, etc can agree upon is the concept of hyper-gamy. Average looks can be compensated with above average finances. Same goes for average finances can be compensated with above average looks.

Happyseducer · 2024-02-08T01:10:13+00:00

Sigh. Game is dead isn’t it lol

soapergem1 · 2024-02-08T01:58:56+00:00

Are you familiar with a TikTok / YouTube creator called hoe_math? He has a ton of great content and I think his video on evaluating how attractive you are will kind of answer your question.

EOD_Bad_Karma · 2024-02-08T03:25:48+00:00

Can? Sure. Your chances are like winning the lottery. Keep trying and maybe you will some day.

Really though, women don’t date down in general.

So, if you’re average looking, you better be rich, fit, be famous and/or have some kind of status and/or influence.

bennettca3 · 2024-02-07T23:03:06+00:00

Only if you have muscles. But it won’t be serious.

IDhl89 · 2024-02-08T01:36:07+00:00

What’s makes her higher status?

Rogitus · 2024-02-07T22:08:51+00:00

Attractive. You have to be attractive, have the right dna.

starkrebel · 2024-02-08T01:34:40+00:00

Average? No. Only if you're in the top tier in looks, & she could be using you as a trophy f-boy. Kind of like in Good Will Hunting:

" You just wanna have your fling with like, the guy from the other side of town, and then you're gonna marry some rich prick who your parents will approve of, and then just sit around with the other trust fund babies, and talk about how you went slumming too once."

rockdude625 · 2024-02-08T01:05:45+00:00

Sure, money is a hell of an aphrodisiac

No-Historian-6391 · 2024-02-08T01:19:15+00:00

Yes there is a slight chance, right place right time and good game (mostly right place right time but you still need to make it happen)

Beyond that no not really and for a relationship even less and then for a relationship to last pretty much not a chance LOL

Just be as high value as you can, working towards higher value continuously and take it as it comes. Maybe you’ll find a good one at the end.

Also status and value are two different things ovb but even more so when it comes to women. Status is useless value is key and hard to find.

Any hoe can get status if they got good cards.

Even-Promise-7266 · 2024-02-08T02:42:39+00:00

It's possible, but rare. You have to have something to offer. I'm not saying you need to be rich, but having something about you that tremendously stands out. Whether this is personality, looks, skills, status, or something else.

Just_Party96 · 2024-02-08T02:46:26+00:00

Yes but only if she is older and the man has top looks and charisma. Male sugar babies for women is a thing.

Realdavidlima · 2024-02-08T05:15:10+00:00

What are you bringing to the table? Are you ripped 6 pack, better looking than the dudes in her circle? That’s one of ….if not the only way it would work

Pedro_Moona · 2024-02-08T07:32:14+00:00

If a women has a better job then you just play of off like no big deal and don't count myself out. Let her decide but don't put her on a pedestal.

Big_Accountant8489 · 2024-02-07T22:51:10+00:00

Define higher status for me

Because from what I’ve seen, they’re not all hot stuff like you think they are

But to answer your question. YES.

Men don’t need high status to get a “hot woman” is what I guess you’re referring to?

Men just need game and confidence. That’s really it.

High status is for you and you only, not women. Women don’t care about status. They care about how you make them feel & if you can make their thingy tingle.

When you play the field some more you’ll realize what I mean.

Osiris_Raphious · 2024-02-07T23:40:31+00:00

Absolutely, provided he earns well above average.

Material_Course3006 · 2024-02-08T05:29:38+00:00

When I go to the mall I see tons of guys with taller / more beautiful girls than them all the time. I'm actually so confused how they do it. Plus they're young too so they really don't have any sort of money / status yet so I disagree with all these comments.

PUNCHCAT · 2024-02-08T02:05:47+00:00

It's all supply and demand mates. A good looking, high status woman can just find a millionaire version of you.

halfozinmysock · 2024-02-07T23:33:45+00:00

Everything external aside, everything, as long as you can be with her on the same mental thought process your chances are fine.

Angelmintscy · 2024-02-08T00:12:05+00:00

NO. Don't delude yourself. Improve or accept average.

daysinnroom203 · 2024-02-08T03:47:45+00:00

Why should they?

Fresh-Inspector-527 · 2024-02-08T03:55:46+00:00

if she's physically attracted to yeah then it doesn't matter what your status is. a woman can only genuinely love a man she has physical desire towards

Fresh-Inspector-527 · 2024-02-08T05:24:13+00:00

most famous example of this was Mary Kay Letourneau and her student Vilii Falaau. the reason it was famous is cause she stayed with him more than 20 years after she did time for sleeping with him when he was a teenager.

Superiority-Qomplex · 2024-02-08T04:38:25+00:00

Of course he can. Traditionally, women with a higher status (even if it's just looks) would date dudes who were working their way up the ladder. I mean if you're in Uni or Trade School or just got your first job as an intern for an Investment Company, your status can be low at the time. But if you're invested in yourself to succeed, you can get the girls of higher value.

If it doesn't look like you have ambition or a path in life, don't expect much though. I mean, if you're just living in mom's basement smoking weed and playing vidya games all day, probably not going to get the A Class Women in your life. But if you're working on something, even if it's not going to make you rich (like say you volunteer to rescue animals or something) you'll be fine. Just make sure that YOU don't consider yourself average. You do want to have some self esteem too.

Soft-Ad3140 · 2024-02-08T07:50:20+00:00

be confident and you can have any woman you want :)

ssdd_idk_tf · 2024-02-07T23:41:46+00:00

Haven’t you ever seen Kurt Russel’s 1987 classic Overboard? The answer is yes.

briefbrisket · 2024-02-08T00:07:11+00:00

Yes.

dasitmane85 · 2024-02-08T00:14:37+00:00

What do you mean by higher status ? I’ve phooked girls waaaay hotter than me for sure

DaygameCode · 2024-02-08T00:24:10+00:00

I have fucked hotter girls than me if that’s what you mean by higher status.

mister_k1 · 2024-02-08T00:25:53+00:00

"higher-status woman"

a women that makes lots of money isn't like a man making money, she is in now way higher status because of that, plus pretty sure these women like most have a high bodycount so no they arn't "high status" in any way shape or form.

kuteb · 2024-02-08T00:47:20+00:00

Anything is possible friend

devilkingx2 · 2024-02-08T00:56:38+00:00

Equal value is true but it doesn't mean you have to be equally hot or rich. She can think you're a catch without you having to match her on every level.

For example if you're a white man you can go for the races of women that love white men. (All Asians, Indians and whitewashed latinas)

There's inspiring examples of average men getting incredible women like:

Dani Daniels (top 10 pornstar millionaire) marrying a chubby bald guy who looks like her dad.
Eugenie Bouchard (semi-famous tennis player who looks good in a Bikini) going out with a Twitter fan she made a bet with (he looks like a normal college boy)

Epiphanic_Eros · 2024-02-08T02:02:58+00:00

Definitely not true

Kobe_curry24 · 2024-02-08T03:51:58+00:00

No can a average basketball player in the NBA no lmaooo but if you train work hard yea you can

MephistoPhoenix · 2024-02-08T04:06:24+00:00

SteveJabbaUK · 2024-02-08T05:20:45+00:00

In general a good rule of thumb is that a man with his shit together can get 1-2 points above his SMV. SMV for men is of course multi-faceted, and is based on his own self-perception, whereas a woman's is based almost entirely on how hot she is (if only for a hookup).

In a relationship it's a bit different: no - one really wants a hot mess long term.

Jazzlike-Prune-1222 · 2024-02-08T06:56:45+00:00

Yes I did, it is hell.

DrayvenBlaze · 2024-02-08T07:26:10+00:00

From experience, yes you most definitely can. If you can give them a thrill or something they've never experienced before, they can be yours even if it's just for the one time

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