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[–]00ogen 145 points146 points147 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
In my experience, Girls like guys who are improving themselves for themselves. Girls can sense when you’re too needy or overly concerned with what they are thinking. When I kind of like a girl but prioritize myself, they cannot get enough for me. When I really like a girl and all I think about is her and the next message I will send her, it kind of pushes her away. Forgetting about women may be the best way to make them attracted to you
[–]FaithInStrangers94 68 points69 points70 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It’s strange how they can sense it.
The moment I become a bit obsessed with a girl she’ll never reply to me - as soon as I forget about her guess who sends me a message.
Yet deep down they want someone who fawns over them, we all do.
[–]A_SilverFlash 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel like a lot of people are lying to themselves when they say they want someone to fawn over them, it’s a superficial ideal that people tell themselves. Yes it might be nice, but that feeling could quickly dissipate as the desired person realizes that they accomplished their goal. Especially in an environment where one could easily find another partner, the desired person may get bored with their new partner and long for another rush.
It feels like human nature to constantly be longing for someone/something/some goal. In a new relationship where one person is obsessed over someone else, that obsession to impress and win over that person is their goal whereas the other person already accomplished their desire.
[–]Caring_Cactus 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm pretty sure a lot of people can sense if someone is being needy and depends on others to determine how they feel
[–]HerosJourney00 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it's weird how it works opposite like that. Guess i just gotta show up and do me. If she fucks with it, cool. If not. Also cool
[–]bewaregravity 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In General a Human doesn't want to deal with another Needy human. The Longer your Single . Older you get. Less Clingyness you can tolerate. A stable Adult doesn't want to deal with a person that's " issues " . OP is issues. Drama. Shit people don't like or want to deal with.
[–]TheOldZenMaster 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What is appealing is Self obsessed, aggressive, narcissist. It’s very dominate, loose cannon. But charming, great charisma, charming without any hint of fear. Almost psychotic and yet it shows follow through. They like a man who can take action. This is also covered by ideas of men should be this or that. Nice or funny. But it’s a certain type of no holding back. Like you have faced death an no longer afraid of the outcome.
People find it mysterious, wild. Hell some even called it’s being ethereal like.
but when that person or woman comes in your life. It’s just not enough. Thus this type of man has many partners or lovers. Never satisfied by the easy picking of prey that are left over. Prey that has already been used like a toothpaste tube with no more cream.
[–]johannthegoatman 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah, I think really hot people are more likely to end up narcissistic because they can get away with it. And everybody likes really hot people regardless of their personality. I don't think it's that personality that attracts people.
[–]TheOldZenMaster 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Google “why do women like psychotic people?”
[–]StereoFood -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok but does this solve how entitled they are?? Lol nope
[–]Possibility-Puzzled 66 points67 points68 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Mmm.. initially I too thought the same. But when I started working on myself, I found it soo good that now my complete focus is improving myself. I am loving it to be confident. Somewhere in the way, I kinda lost interest on chasing girls and improving myself full time now
[–]HerosJourney00 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Interesting. So do u still care about girls? Or they're just a side thought now
[–]Possibility-Puzzled 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I do still care, but now I am working on myself because I wanted to, not to impress girls. I guess that would come as a sweet side effect of what I am doing now
[–]vioxxed 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have the same attitude I realized I like to work on myself and pursue my hobbies. I work a lot since I’m a surgeon so I really enjoy my free time. My issue is, now I don’t want to spend time with someone else.
[–]sanehussain 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I believe you'll find the right one. The thing is that, that one compatible person is quite rare. And I think that might be a good thing. If you think about it, it's not really wise to share the precious life you've worked hard to build, just wuth anyone and everyone. You save it for that one person who's "earned" it.
[–]thots_nprayers 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. That’s the best and only reason to work on improving yourself - to improve your own quality of life!
[–]leelbeach 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What sort of things you doing to improve yourself. I say this as what I'm doing right now is going to the gym and eating relatively healthy. I need to do more though like I want to find a hobby or two to do.
[–]Possibility-Puzzled 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lost 30lb of fat and gained 9lb of muscle Learning martial arts, dance, Gym, Reading books, Meditation
Finally enjoying life that I missed until now. By god’s grace I have a good job, so I don’t have to worry about that
[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Build a beautiful life for yourself and then some women will love to join in soon.
[–]WerewolfofWS -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yeah cuz $ lol
[–]Crosspatterns 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I used to be a 95%-er for my age bracket and that didn’t help. It’s more important to be a good story-teller, listener, seductive, and funny.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes both are important, money and soft skills.
[–]WerewolfofWS 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What’s a 95%er…
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yes money doesn't mean beautiful life, but without adequate amount of money we can't have the foundation to build either.
Both approaches are important, East & West together.
[–]WerewolfofWS 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I didn’t say $ wasn’t important my comment is the exact opposite , she’s joining you because of your $
Ok.
[–]b_a_d_r0b0t 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Women stay at the finish line and choose a winner.
Yeah so you win.
[–]b_a_d_r0b0t 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And what does she bring to the table? Why should I share my hard earned resources to someone who had sex with multiple men?
[–]sexthrowac 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
> I'm tired of just constantly trying to do things to get women to like me.
You shouldn't. You should just be the best and coolest version of yourself because YOU want that. Women will automatically like you for that.
[–]harrrrah 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
That’s the real pickup strategy right there. Certain as you get comfortable being alone (while not being shut in) then nice women will come your way. Life is sadistic like that.
[–]that1guysittingthere 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I’ve been alone all my life that it’s more comfortable than being around people. None have come my way either
[–]harrrrah 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
You are the black swan that destroyed my theory lol. Thanks for your input. Can you share what you do to make loneliness more palatable? I need help w that desperately.
[–]Ilovethaiicedtea 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not that guy but your best bet is to get a social hobby (hiking as a group, martial arts, dancing, yoga, Alcoholics anonymous can be good if that's your Forte). People aren't necessarily designed to be alone all the time, but if you aren't comfortable in your own skin people are gonna sense it. Also, personal experience if you don't talk to people in person often enough you get rough around the edges with it.
[–]that1guysittingthere 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn’t solve my loneliness, but I distract myself by finding an interest or hobby to obsess over. I’ve gone from comic books, videogames, guns, historical reenactment. Sounds dorky, I know, but these kinds of things keep me from depressingly sitting in my garage/car smoking cigarettes.
There was a time when I coped with loneliness by… doing whatever I wanted. Go into whatever restaurant I’m in the mood for, enjoy the food, get up and go. Go to a movie theater, watch the movie, get up and go. Go into a mall, find and buy what I’m looking for, get up and go. More efficient than moping around I suppose, and you can focus more on enjoying the food, movie, styling, etc.
I never considered myself confident, but strutting around looking fly could give that impression. Sometimes girls can compliment your style, or a guy compliments on how put-together you appear. Anyway that was pretty off topic, my point is that as much as loneliness sucks, you don’t have to make it look lame.
[–]HerosJourney00 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Much so
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hmmmm i've been doing this a while, particularly getting good at cooking and becoming prettttty muscular and lean. But it's at the point where a girl will walk by me stare and smile and i literally just give a non emotional death stare back. Kinda shit honestly but it happens haha
[–]diegggs94 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This whole sub is guys that think having a ton of women will bring them happiness. It fucks with your mind and it’ll fuck with you when you get into an actual romantic relationship. I want to get in all of these posts and say personal development for personal development sake is the way to go. Find the values and interests you have and develop there along with a base of exercise, eating, and work. And if you don’t wanna do any of that, you’ll find someone that does the same. Careful what you ask for though.
[–]Marcioszka921 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Just have your life and live it. Do you constantly chase your mother around so she'd love you? Are u unnecessarily intensive around Ur grandpop BC u do want him to accept you as you are? I don't think so. They are people - u love em but give them space to live.
Why a girl would be interested in sameone that is focused on girls overall? Nothing special about that, no adventure no nothing. The idea "Welp if I don't do him, then other girl next week might" is not hot, not nice, doesn't wanna make u keep that or just have good time.
We live in society of feeling as individuals but we live as a mass. Just be your own part of it, do what u like, when u like and if someone will turn out to be interesting, treat them like a human not an object or a trophy. (Tho some ppl like that - can't talk for everyone)
To shorten it up - enjoy life with yourself BC that is the most important - u live with that till the last day.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Your mother is the only woman that will truly ever love you so it's a different case
[–]Marcioszka921 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sadly not always true statement. Overall thought of that was that you don't put on a show to make people truly love you.
Parental love is the only unconditional love across all species. It's the purest form of love. Very few people in your life will love but none of it would be unconditional
[–]Kiff88 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Cutt off all your social life for 3 months. If you drink, dont. If you smoke, dont. If you do drugs, dont. Dont watch porn and dont masturbate. Do workout many times a week. Stretch and relax daily. And figure out yourself.
[–]malcom_ambedkar 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's currently what I really am doing now. But a thought of getting to know what's happening in her life is restricting from cutting down on social media. Because definitely after a year or so when I be like a "desired men" i don't want to regret that I completely lost my touch on her. Tho she ignoring my msgs for now. But I am just confident.
[–]thebigfishstick17 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah man you have to cut her out. She’s not messaging you, checking up on you, wanting to see you, or eve thinking about you. Use that in the gym whenever you don’t feel like lifting. Good luck to you
[–]malcom_ambedkar 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
she does message me but i have to initiate although she has lost interest in me but also checks on my insta stories.
[–]Adventurous_Gene_692 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't chase but don't compain about getting no pussy either
[–]MoOsT1cK 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm trying to do so, and forget about girls. I had spine surgery twice, and although I still manage to have a life where my handicap is not obvious, I can't stay up for a long time after a working day, or do sports other than light gym and yoga. So I have no more hobbies where I could meet someone, or just pretend to have an interesting life. Event sex is not the real thing any more. Not that I could'nt do it at all any more, but I'll hurt myself if I do it frequently or simply if I let go and abandon myself to it. Being several days in pain just after getting laid isn't worth the hassle any more. I'd prefer to forget about it completely.
Also, my sentimental life has been ruining my mood and my self-esteem over the last 30 years. Sometimes I had no luck, or went in toxic relations, and sometimes I have to admit it was simply my fault.
So I'm trying to exist for myself, and doing the best I can with the time I have before I die.
And I honestly have no fucking idea what I'm doing, nor why.
[–]Yuva0 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't become blackpilled.
[–]Calamity__Bane 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I want to just forget them, go live my life and be happy. I'm ready to just let go of trying to get their approval.
Excellent. Lean into that feeling. It is your best friend.
I'm just afraid I'll fall into a toxic ideology by not caring anymore
You won't, you'll be the exact opposite.
[–]HerosJourney00 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just gotta figure out what makes me happy now
[–]YoDaddy1069 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the best advice I’ve seen so far
[–]wakawah 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (39 children) | Copy Link
You will live a much more meaningful life taking risks and possibly getting rejected rather than giving up and sitting on the sideline saying "what if?". I always feel good after approaching women even if I get shot down. Like going to the gym. I may not feel like working out sometimes, but I never regret it afterwards. Try listening to the "book of pook", and "mystery method". It will help you understand. Pick your head up, don't get fed up young buck!
[–]HerosJourney00 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I tried to take this srsly but I honestly don't care about game or women no more. Gonna just do me now and create a happy/beautiful life like someone else said
[+]wakawah -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I had a feeling you would say that. Enjoy complaining on reddit and being alone.
[–]HerosJourney00 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Will do man thanks
[+]slimyslag -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (35 children) | Copy Link
Instead of wasting your time or money on some shit PUA advice you could just learn some basic respect for women and be a decent and interesting person. Literally all it takes.
[–]wakawah 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
Nice guys have tons of respect for women and are decent and interesting people. All those things are a perfect match for a bff
[+]slimyslag -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (28 children) | Copy Link
I know many truly nice men, all in happy relationships. My fiancé is a great guy that really does respect women.
There are also many out there who THINK they are nice men who respect women, yet go out and seek advice from PUA and end up treating women like a trophy to win.
If you don't value the friendship of a woman, you're not respecting her. If she's only useful to you when you can fuck her, hint hint, you're not a "nice guy".
[–]wakawah 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
But what if the guy isn't interested in a friendship?
[+]slimyslag -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
If you're only interested in women for sex then you're not respecting them as people. That's not a nice man.
[–]wakawah 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
So you are saying make friends with women, and don't have sex with them. I think he has figured out how to do that part well by now.
[–]slimyslag -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Nope, I'm saying if you're interested in who somebody is then you'd be happy with a relationship or friendship.
[–]wakawah 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
So a lady being only interested in him as a friend is fine. However, him only being interested in a sexual relationship with her is not okay.
[–]slimyslag -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yeah.
[–]Mrcopeland25 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
don’t know why your being downvoted. To back you up tho women i have been somewhat friends with before we got together are usually the best relationships because you know all of each other’s boundaries. the mutual respect between y’all is there.
[–]slimyslag 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, right? I have no idea why you'd want a relationship with somebody you don't respect as a friend first anyway 😂
I'm just being downvoted by the losers who don't respect women, don't want to and then come here to bitch about how nobody will sleep with them.
Thanks for proving my point tho that there are plenty of men out there who are genuinely nice and get women because of that! ☺️
[–]YoDaddy1069 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Because the advice you’re giving out is trash. What happens to you if you try to be friends with a woman you want to be intimate with? You go right for the friend zone.
Yes, there are some cases where a guy and lady are friends and develop an intimate relationship. But to act like this is the norm that happens all the time is so disingenuous. Women don’t want to get in relationships with guys they are friends with, that’s why women start wanting you after you cut them off and they see you with another woman
[–]slimyslag 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm not giving advice. I'm also not saying you have to be friends first, I don't believe that, I wasn't friends with my partner first. You're upset because you've misunderstood.
[–]wakawah 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Trust me when I say there are tons of women he does not view sexually and is fine being friends with that he isn't attracted to.
[–]slimyslag 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I never said there aren't, I'm not talking about one specific person. From what OP has said in his comments I don't believe him to be the kind of man Im describing.
[–]wakawah 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
He isn't trying to make friends. He wants to get laid.
[–]slimyslag 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly, he's not respecting the woman as a person. He's not a nice guy.
[–]YoDaddy1069 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are so ridiculous. How is OP not respecting women?
I already said in a comment that I'm not talking about OP. Read what is said before flipping out.
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[–]slimyslag 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
As I said, lots of men think they're nice and respect women but really just treat them like objects. I am yet to meet a genuinely nice man that has your issue, so I'm going to guess it's a you thing.
[–][deleted] 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't think what I consider myself matters, I care more about the opinions of the important people in my life. I get great feedback from them, so I suppose I do.
[–]FatJesus13908 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like you're trying too hard, and for all the wrong reasons. You probably come off as fake as fuck and insincere. Just be yourself, and if you notice your toxic traits, change them for you. Or not. There's so many women in the world, there's bound to be someone into you.
[–]Robofrogg1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The problem is, you’re doing all that stuff to try to get women to like/want you. You need to be doing all that stuff for YOURSELF. Be a man, live your best life, be confident, happy, and love yourself for who you are, first and foremost. The rest will follow.
[–]whiplash81 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tired of get this, get that. Women like this women like that. Behave like this. Be more confident. Be well dressed. Get some good status. Get a great job. Get a social life. Be passionate about things. Flirt like this. Play sports. Behave like this. Be a gentleman.
All of that stuff points at one thing - appearing less needy.
Don't worry about the "do xyz and then say this" crap. Just understand what actually attracts women - confidence and non-neediness.
Don't ever chase for the approval of a woman. Set your sights higher - improve your own quality of life by identifying your values and chase that.
Attracting women comes naturally when you aren't trying to.
[–]Ysfysfd 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't think that's the right mindset. As some others already commented you're doing all those things for you and improving yourself. Only you stand to gain from your personal growth and improvements. It's okay to be done with chasing after women but never be done with progressing and having a rich, full and interesting life. Everybody is different just like in real life so be aware that not everybody is compatible with one and other. Just keep working at it, stay social and the women that are right for you will naturally gravitate towards you
[–]appmanga 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
After reading these posts I've never wished so much I could be 25-years-old again. The incredible lack of competition would make my past look like life in a monastery. Youth is indeed wasted on the young.
[–]SnooMachines1406 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what do you mean lack of competition
[–]appmanga 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This whole thread is full of guys talking about how they're going to quit going after women.
I've heard it gets better for men as they get older though. Bcuz women like well established men
Ya just focus on yourself don't worry about women if one catches your eye talk to her and try and get her number other than that. You got problems you know how to make yourself happy. Don't look for a girl to make yourself happy. Fix your own problems
[–]HerosJourney00 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel like I don't even want to Chase any girl. I don't wanna live up to people's expectations I want to just be myself
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only gotta live up to your own standards. Got nothing to prove but to yourself. Truth be told these girls will cause you more problems then try and help you out. Don't chase anything cause it will run away. Gotta let things fall into place.
[–]Valuable-Factor-5468 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I guarantee that if you forget about women for a year and focus on yourself you will end up attracting more women
[–]that1guysittingthere 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I focused on myself almost the entirety of undergrad. No results.
[–]Valuable-Factor-5468 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And this relates how? did you chat to girls, did you at least be proactive? focusing on yourself does not equate to locking yourself away...
[–]HerosJourney00 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ok. It's a weird shift bcuz I've been doing it my whole life
[–]Valuable-Factor-5468 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I did this last year, after a bunch of failed dates and frustration I said fuck this, I have far better things to be doing than chasing women who want to play games. Life improved drastically and dating was so much easier, women had more respect for me and behaved differently.
You shouldn't give two shits what women like if I'm being honest, you present yourself as a high value man, if they don't want it, their loss, bye bye
[–]SnooMachines1406 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you have to care to a degree or else you won't try and women won't come to you. Its a balancing act I think , care enough to go after them but after that left the chips fall where they may.
Yo bro message me what you look like etc?
[–]cronasminate 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, you are either the type of dude women like or you are not. There is a lot of genetics associated with it that people won't admit in terms of your looks genetics (assymmetry), but also your behavioral genetics (i.e. aspergers, ASD). Some people may look normal but they behaviorally can't connect with people. If you are having so much trouble with women that it reduces your quality of life then just move on.
I've had success with women even before I got into seduction but it my success waxes and wanes. I can't imagine doing this without having any kind of base information on what a interested girl looks/feels like to begin with.
[–]Snakehead004 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As soon as you forget they'll be way more interested
Mhm. Why is that relevant lol
It's an annoying loop but eh, the needs subverts the annoyingness
[–]Blackmetalpenguin90 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Here's an alternative: be who you want to be and who you feel comfortable being. And find someone who accepts that man.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Meanwhile fat women are beautiful. If you don't agree then you are fat-phobic and mysogynist.
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'd have supported that movement if they have included the fat guys. But that didn't happen.
I am a fit guy so I cannot comment on how well the body positivity movement is working out for men. FWIW as an immigrant brown man I can tell you that most of the subtle form racism I face comes from woke women. Naturally I'm skeptical.
[–]itisman2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Escorts.
[–]thelambofdeth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm right a the brink of quitting
[–]VDKay 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd consider giving up. 1 less competition for somebody else who is still trying his best
you just have to let the chips fall where they may when you do that it set you apart which girls like. I struggle with what you're going through to and it frustrates me as well.
[–]the-dan-man 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You sound burned out. Take a break. The chase isn't easy for any man. Look after yourself. Women aren't special.
[–]bmunger718 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would say focus on yourself to the point you become a narcissist. Improve your financial life by getting more skills if that means going to school then do it or get a good paying trade. Also, start going to the gym so you can have a positive place to put your frustration. Don’t be so focused on your failures with women treat it like a fun game and you just know most women are bullshit so anything regards to them should not surprise you or hurt your feelings. Be patient things will come to together.
[–]KaleWeekly 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would do all of this, but still talk to women and ask them out on dates IF you feel chemistry, if not don't even bother and just treat them like friends. That way you don't waste time. That's what I'm doing now after a breakup, just learning and practicing socialization and flirting even though I know it's going nowhere.
[–]Squez360 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People are just moving the goal post on what women like. In reality, looks then personality is what really matter.
[–]Sensitive-Permit-877 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ignore them they start coming out of the woodworks when you truly ignore them
[–]GluckTruck 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You’ll probably cultivate more quality relationships just by adopting the constitution of this post. And be happier.
[–]Egeste_ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm right there with you bud. After several months of struggling with the emotional and psychological turmoil of feeling like I just wasn't _____ enough, i just stopped trying. I'm a lot happier now.
[–]hachapurik 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro, change country. Suddenly all priorities will change.
[–]Zeto12 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“ I just want to forget them, go live my life and be happy.”
Once you do this, you will find your woman. Or more precisely your woman will find you
[–]bewaregravity 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
go live my life and be happy
You Should ALREADY be happy and living life prior to finding an SO. Nobody wants to be the " piece " that magically makes you happy. Why ? Cause your happiness is then directly tied to another person and that is a massive emotional drain on a person. A GF is a Partner to ride along with you on a path you've already been traveling , Not one to help you find the way. No girl wants to be a mans surrogate Mommy.
[–]New_Manufacturer_802 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
man, in my opinion u are thinking in the best way possible. just dont give a fuck to anyone and dont try to get their aproval. focus on your own happines and forget all this shit.
Hey man, I agree with you. I've had success with women by all definitions, but after my last relationship ended, I just don't give a shit anymore.
It's like a full-time job and I already have one of those.
[–]Here_4_the_bad_ones 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Well my experience is pretty much exactly like this. I started learning about human nature, power, seduction, positive mindsets, resilience, the stock market and crypto. I started saving money, cultivating new relationships, going to new spots (on my own) and going to the gym minimum 4 times a week but usually 5-6 times. I stopped seeking attention and validation, I stopped coasting and trying to pick up chicks. I changed my look. I improved my diet. I started sleeping more. The crazy thing is I haven’t read the comments but I’m sure there are other that will report the same as me. The second I turned inward I felt stronger, more confident and less needy and therefore women found me more attractive. I would say I’m nearing a whole year of work and at this point everyone around me sees it and compliments me. The hardest thing for me now is not getting complacent with positive external validation. You gotta keep going like you can only look up, your future self will thank you. Don’t forget to stop and have a little fun every now and then too. Go to the movies alone, pick up a hobby, develop a skill. You’re at the point where you say enough is enough and if you harness that energy nothing can stop you. Question is, are you willing to make sacrifices? When I started to change my life, a lot of people couldn’t handle it. “Friends” start to show their true colors, girls who rejected you come back and people around you will start to test you because they see your value. It is vital that above all you value yourself, your health (mental, emotional, physical) and your time without inflating your ego. If you don’t take your life seriously, not only will people not take you seriously but you’ll set yourself up for anxiety and depression the way a grandmaster sets their check.
[–]Swarley--stinson 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The thing is: that is the reality game. You cannot escape. It is like being tired of having jobs, earning money, etc. It will eventually backfire and you will see that you only lost time.
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