Warren Farrell protest at the University of Toronto - Full version - YouTube

theskepticalidealist · 2012-12-01T15:12:27+00:00

Warren Farrell neither said nor implied that rape is ok. He was talking about how certain scenes in movies and books, which were (and still are) considered romantic and exciting, are technically rape according to a good number of feminists. Going by their criteria, a lot of real life consensual sex also counts as rape.

Here's the quote in context:

"If a man ignoring a woman's verbal 'no' is committing date rape, then a woman who says `no' with her verbal language but 'yes' with her body language is committing date fraud. And a woman who continues to be sexual even after she says 'no' is committing date lying. "Do women still do this? Two feminists found the answer is yes. Nearly 40 percent of college women acknowledged they had said "no" to sex even "when they meant yes." In my own work with over 150,000 men and women - about half of whom are single - the answer is also yes. Almost all single women acknowledge they have agreed to go back to a guy's place "just to talk" but were nevertheless responsive to his first kiss. Almost all acknowledge they've recently said something like "That's far enough for now," even as her lips are still kissing and her tongue is still touching his. We have forgotten that before we called this date rape and date fraud, we called it exciting. Somehow, women's romance novels are not titled He Stopped When I Said "No". They are, though, titled Sweet Savage Love, in which the woman rejects the hand of her gentler lover who saves her from the rapist and marries the man who repeatedly and savagely rapes her. It is this "marry the rapist" theme that not only turned Sweet Savage Love into a best-seller but also into one of women's most enduring romance novels. And it is Rhett Butler, carrying the kicking and screaming Scarlett O'Hara to bed, who is a hero to females - not to males - in Gone With the Wind (the best selling romance novel of all time - to women). It is important that a woman's "noes" be respected and her "yeses" be respected. And it is also important when her nonverbal "yeses" (tongues still touching) conflict with those verbal "noes" that the man not be put in jail for choosing the "yes" over the "no."

Regarding the video.... I can't stop laughing at this guy!

DerickBurton · 2012-12-01T14:06:32+00:00

This is nuts. Seeing these fanatics in all their close minded glory regurgitating feminist lies and half truths makes me wonder if they will ever cede ground to the MRM. The female who was calling the one guy fucking scum and a rape apologist pretty much sums up the aggressive, deluded hateful nature of the whole protest.

ForExternalUse0nly · 2012-12-01T16:09:10+00:00

"THIS IS WHAT MEN'S RIGHTS LOOKS LIKE"

You mean a bunch of angry feminists with shaved heads having to be held back by police so they don't beat a man to a bloody pulp?

EDIT: I'm sorry, and I do'nt care how much downvotes I'll get, but many of these women look like they need to be slapped in the face. Not for being feminists, but for being dickbags.

ifinallyreallyreddit · 2012-12-01T17:47:48+00:00

Fucking hell at the woman who told a guy whose two friends committed suicide "but, there's like feminism."

SwanOfAvon22 · 2012-12-01T21:13:33+00:00

hahahahaha wow... I hadn't seen such childish behavior except from caricatures of feminism before, and these people are being completely sincere

ComradeFurious · 2012-12-01T17:05:49+00:00

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2012-12-01T16:02:53+00:00

I'm glad to finally have a video that shows how rediculous the whole situation was! Great camera work and editing~

2012-12-01T20:40:20+00:00

I can't even watch this. It makes my heart race and my stomach churn.

2012-12-01T18:11:58+00:00

Two of my friends committed suicide and I want the peace of understanding why that happened.

This broke my fucking heart.

A_Nihilist · 2012-12-01T23:22:37+00:00

Notice the girl saying she's there with her women's studies group. These are the people who come on Reddit and say their programs are fair and balanced.

gwolf100 · 2012-12-02T04:42:23+00:00

That woman calling that guy scum...if we lived in actual patriarchy she woulda been shot in the head

2012-12-01T17:51:43+00:00

Farrell is definitely the most mild mannered and reasonable guy associated with the MRM. These people are complete fucking retards trying to attack him.

AnthonyZarat · 2012-12-01T15:13:46+00:00

This video is VERY important, and deserves sustained attention and widespread publicity. Feminism is hate, violence, and silencing. They are not interested in dialogue, not interested in disccourse, and completely intolerant of any opinion that does not suppot their supremacist agenda.

double-happiness · 2012-12-01T19:48:38+00:00

I don't understand how the woman who is calling a man who wants to go into the meeting 'fucking scum' doesn't get arrested. I can't imagine anyone getting away with that in the UK, you'd get a warning (if you were lucky) then nicked for Criminal Order, Breach of the Peace or whatever. The Canadian police seem pretty laissez-faire.

JonLR · 2012-12-01T21:42:33+00:00

That is what Feminism looks like.

Close-minded, hate-filled bigots, out on full display for everyone to see.

theskepticalidealist · 2012-12-02T10:41:16+00:00

Wow they are actually lunatics arent they? There was a women at one point literally looked like she was crazy or on drugs or something

kanuk876 · 2012-12-02T06:35:27+00:00

Warren Farrell has dedicated his life to bringing men and women together and ending the gender war.

This is how Feminism responds.

Warren Farrell was disowned by feminists when, in couples counselling, he began to listen not exclusively to the women, but also to the men's view and lived experiences.

bananafanabobana · 2012-12-02T01:50:14+00:00

If you pause at 3:36 you'll see the demeanor of people protesting..hh

quasimotor · 2012-12-08T17:12:15+00:00

Holy Shit. Shocked. Shaking. MRM is most definitely needed.

WeAreTheLeprechauns · 2012-12-01T20:52:46+00:00

The video would be better if it made some reference to what the talk was actually about. It doesn't actually refute the false claims the crowd was making about it being hate speech and people not familiar with Farrell will have no idea that he isn't actually inside promoting rape/hate speech/etc.

Tralan · 2012-12-02T05:48:05+00:00

That's it. I'm done. I do n ot care about men's rights or women's rights. I hope someone opens up fire and spray kills that entire crowd of fuckwads. I want everyone present to just die. All of them.

Fuck equality, freedom of speech, and anything anyone stands for.

I'm, from this point forward, no longer a men's right's activist. I am now forming an anti-Hate Group Hate Group. We're going to go seek out violent hate groups (yes, those women and Flying Monkeys were violent, both physically and verbally) and we're going to beat the shit out of them in the name of Chaos.

unsubscribe. Goodbye, and good luck.

typhonblue · 2012-12-01T17:21:26+00:00

I don't disagree with the fact that women should say what they mean and what they want. But this:

"If a man ignoring a woman's verbal 'no' is committing date rape, then a woman who says `no' with her verbal language but 'yes' with her body language is committing date fraud.

Are you people seriously supporting this bullshit? If you believe this than a good percentage of men who were raped are guilty of fraud for getting a boner. This, folks, is why people don't like you.

I know this is going to get downvoted but I don't fucking care. You need to hear it.

Title	Warren Farrell protest at the University of Toronto - Full version - YouTube
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Date	December 1, 2012 1:14 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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