Q4RP: Do TBPers hate men?

alreadyredschool · 2017-07-12T11:26:59+00:00

Edit: Apparently this was too direct (Even if comments like this regarding TRP are posted everyday) so here the nice version of it: Yes in my opinion I believe that TBP can be classified as a hate group. That could be where the belief that they hate men stems from. The whole purpose of the sub is to bully. Further explanations in the comments.

prodigy2throw · 2017-07-12T14:50:41+00:00

I think TBP feel like men have way more privileges than they actually have and it just spirals off from there. Fact of the matter is, wealth and class is the only real privilege. A black man who grew up in Calabasas will have way more opportunities to make it than a blonde girl from Flint Michigan.

bonerdude420 · 2017-07-12T12:52:13+00:00

As a casual observer it's pretty obvious to me that a large portion of TBP has an unhealthy relationship with and view of men.

And for members to participate regularly they must at least be comfortable in an environment which is bias against (or worse) men.

exit_sandman · 2017-07-12T11:20:53+00:00

TBP is a feminist hive that consists of people with SJWish tendencies being triggered by what they perceive as misogyny, and deviation from that party line gets harshly punished (with assloads of downvotes).

If you consider feminism misandrist, then you might also apply the same reasoning to TBP. Of course if you refuse to entertain that idea about feminism in the first place, then trying to convince you that TBP is misandrist won't work either.

[deleted] · 2017-07-12T14:19:15+00:00

They don't hate Chad.

BiggerDthanYou · 2017-07-12T12:09:25+00:00

After reading that, I'm more inclined to ask why do you hate TBP.

TheVanquishedOne · 2017-07-12T17:10:07+00:00

The problem is that the bar for hating men is so much higher than for women. It is similar to black and white people.

Just stating the facts about the black rate of crime, without adding a whole bunch of cushioning of "because of poverty" or "muh system", can result in a backlash similar to the one you'd get for shouting nigger at the top of your lungs. Meanwhile you basically have to be full on nation of islam to be considered anti white.

Making one comment that could even be interpreted as sexist can cause a massive backlash. Say women tend to be weaker than men or more prone to crying will earn you the sexist brand, but if you say men are more prone to violence I doubt they'd say its sexist. Even if they did call it sexist, they surely wouldn't have as much passion and emotional outrage at it.

UA_Hammer · 2017-07-12T13:31:28+00:00

I've seen you make logical leaps like "what I find morally correct is whatever the woman does, regardless of whether she wants to abort or doesn't because of religion"

When you give women this much power to do whatever the fuck they want you create negative consequences for men whether you like it or not

zayelion · 2017-07-12T14:07:24+00:00

Years of functional feminism, and a few decades of extreme feminism. Im understanding a BP as "average joe" not privy to our conversations. Male tendencies that foster traditional values later in life have been shunned by the women that raised this generation. Aggression, bull headedness, sexual appeitite. Women arent aggressive, women arent bull headed they communicate, women arent sluts, women arent hairy. Women raising children where the father chain has been broken or got an ultra dose of feminism are gonna make that an egalitarian statement. People can only teach what they know.

People arent aggressive, people arent bull headed they communicate, people arent lustful, people arent hairy. To oversimply, this oppresses men; or rather inculcates a negative view of masculinity. The "boogeymen" is that a male raised this way sees another male raised a different way be "naughty", and gets away with it. Rewarded even. How they process this is either the redpill rage, or a distain for masculinity.

keonkla · 2017-07-12T19:54:40+00:00

Well see from the time where i used to lurk heavily on both blue pill and red pill, There was defiantly some Hatred of men in the blue pill sub. See I 100% bet that the type of feminists/ women that use the blue pill are probably just as much as Bigots as some of the more extreme red pillars are. See from certain threads on purple pill debate that talked about the things that abusive men could do, Its highly obvious that From the stories that some blue pill/ feminist women told, Its not just red pillers that are the broken Individuals Who cant trust the other gender.

statsfodder · 2017-07-12T20:04:53+00:00

A sub that was specifically created to mock and bully men, specifically men who don't want to prostrate themselves on the altar of feminism can't like men especially "masculine" men, otherwise the sub wouldn't exist. It is like asking if FPH hated fat people or if MGTOW/incel subs hate women...

GroovyEFS · 2017-07-12T11:18:43+00:00

Hate men? Nah, not the majority of the bloops here on PPD.

Hate masculine behaviour? That's a different matter.

LewisCross · 2017-07-12T13:36:28+00:00

Yes.

More specifically, Blues hate certain men who act, or attempt to act, in certain masculine manners. Blues believe there is a certain class of men (betas, unattractive men, ugly men, unassertive men) who should never assert themselves in any way, shape, manner or form. This class of men is "not entitled", according to Blues, to act in a masculine way. "How DARE that beta approach that woman!!!" "How DARE that beta stand up for himself and tell someone else to stop mistreating him!"

BPremium · 2017-07-12T12:21:07+00:00

Ehhh, BP ( not to be confused with my magnificent self ) tends to support keeping the staus quo. I mean, why not? Its working for them. So RP comes along and provides a road map designed to upset the applecart. Not necessarily a bad thing on an individual level, but the advice comes packaged in an ideology that many find to be... uncouth. When both the good advice and "bad" ideology are so intermingled its nigh inseparable, people tend to throw out the baby with the bathwater. To the baby being thrown out, it can be seen as hate.

Thats my take anyway

OurThrownAwayDreams · 2017-07-12T14:25:01+00:00

I'm a man and I think most of misandry is justified. Women don't hate men for being men, they hate them after being repeated negative experiences with them.

Women would have no excuse to hate on men if we treated them better.

IIHotelYorba · 2017-07-13T03:09:08+00:00

Because you guys always talk about "toxic" masculinity, or things clearly influenced by this idea. Toxic masculinity takes two forms:

Bad things people in general do for all manner of reasons, that feminists call "masculine" for no fucking reason. (War, greed, terrorism)
Normal things that are part and parcel of being a male human, which feminists pathologize, and make fearmongering slippery slope arguments about. (Air conditioning, sitting, men like to look at boobs)

In regards to men becoming more masculine in order to increase their dating success we are all like "yeah that's common sense. I don't even know any guy that doesn't know that nor do I know any guy that's ashamed of being a man" so it should be even more obvious that we don't despise masculinity.

Ok but this is a recent happening. +/- 2 years ago it was uncommon for anyone not RP to say they thought RP ideas made sense. It was far more unusual for a straight up BP, and fucking unheard of for a feminist. Especially if we're talking about things like "be more masculine." THAT went over like a lead balloon.

fufususu · 2017-07-13T12:48:53+00:00

this might seem like an off-topic question, but do you think MRA's hate women? The reason why I'm asking this question is because as a TBPer, I would assume you're a feminist, and feminists would generally agree to this statement. The same case goes the other way around

Although they don't explicitly mention this, they generally identify with feminist ideology, and so do its users [not saying it's a bad or good thing tho]. A few characteristics include intolerance to "hate speech" or stressing safe spaces. For the same reasons that a feminist would be lead to believe that an MRA hates women, an anti-feminist would claim that feminists [or TBPers] would hate men.

alreadyredschool · 2017-07-12T11:20:10+00:00

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HiDefFX · 2017-07-12T13:59:25+00:00

I think the hate stems from the content that is posted, which is more of showcasing RP content and satirizing it, at least this is what I have gathered from r/thebluepill (which even says its satire).

Which actually confuses me a bit, because I still not sure if BP is a direct counter thought to RP or if its just content made to joke about it (I have seen both types of content)

sublimemongrel · 2017-07-12T15:00:32+00:00

It's just a shaming argument they pull out of their back pocket when they have nothing else. It would be like me asking a RPWi if she "hates women" because I disagree with her personal thoughts on the role of wife or SO.

cuittler · 2017-07-12T22:05:08+00:00

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despisedlove2 · 2017-07-14T01:41:53+00:00

No. They are, if male, internally ashamed of being male.

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Title	Q4RP: Do TBPers hate men?
Author	BiggerDthanYou
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Date	July 12, 2017 10:48 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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