Basing your life around sex/power/dominance dynamics and spreading those ideas is bringing the society backwards

Paranoidexboyfriend · 2020-09-19T13:09:47+00:00

Sorry, people respond to incentives. If hot women were attracted to scientists in droves regardless of appearance and social skills, we’d have colonized half the universe already. Same if men were purely attracted to brains. But the sex drive doesn’t work that way.

wtknight · 2020-09-19T15:51:23+00:00

The problem is that people are focusing on dominance. Power dynamics are important in relationships, but they should be approached from a perspective of compromise rather than of dominance. Neither men or women should be fully getting exactly what they want, and if a man is in a relationship where a woman is getting everything that she wants or a woman is in a relationship where a man is getting everything that he wants, then those are bad relationships. The approach nowadays from both genders (TRP from men, FDS from women) is too uncompromising and are not really ideals when it comes to fostering a healthy relationship between the genders.

Sid_Insidious · 2020-09-19T14:05:59+00:00

I also realized that society actually does an extremely well job about keeping sex/dominance/relationship dynamics as something not to be discussed, and I think for a very good reason, this talk makes people insecure, anxious, selfish, toxic, just generally unhealthy mentally.

Sex is a big part of people's lives but the whole mess is loaded with shame and guilt and pressure so society has a big "don't ask don't tell" think about it. If your basement floods, you can talk about it. If your mother gets sick, or dies, you can talk about it. You can even talk about a kid who's struggling in school. But you don't talk about sex problems. You don't talk about drinking problems. People have an image to uphold, and society is judgemental as all hell - we've not progressed in this regards, it's ten times work. Gossip, back stabbing and game playing is alive and well, especially in a workplace which is highly strained due to COVID and other forces.

But, this doesn't mean that just "not talkking about it" is a healthy thing. I think Blue Pilled sexual dynamics has about 90% of people in a state of misery. Unhappily single, or anxiously attached... same patterns over and over. Going through a divorce, or another divorce. Putting up with certain relationship dynamics that are toxic...

I really don't get or accept the notion that being a woke "Red Pilled" person is to be a selfish, immoral person and which would suggest... what exactly? That trying to become unwoke and put the blinders on and go back to Blue Pill mantra is somehow moral?

To just fall in line, be hush hush about sex, sexual relationships, and relationship power dynamics? I don't think every Red Pill guy out there is following TRP philosophy just to get laid or exploit someone. In my case, my Red Pill awareness is just a survival mechanism. I've decided that relationships with women are toxic for me. They take way more out of me than they should, and I end up being the bad guy after putting in considerable effort intot he relationship. I've just come to accept that I'm just really not "relationship material" and have spent too much time living as a single guy to be able to have a woman "fit" into my life.

I don't see how that's immoral or toxic at all. I think if anything it's better for me, better for the women who don't have to be with me, and better overall for my kids. Who's the loser in this scenario? Nobody. Or is it society? Well, society can really go to hell. I'm keeping my side of the street clean. My proverbial "back yard". I am not creating social problems or doing anything to harm anyone else.

AdolfGandi · 2020-09-19T17:14:49+00:00

I can't be redpill. I want to manipulate women like they've done to me but I just can't. I don't have it in me. I don't have the skill and I can't stand to hurt people like that.

Pontifex_Lucious-II · 2020-09-19T12:08:09+00:00

Feel free to go back to the Blue Pill Matrix anytime

revente · 2020-09-19T13:15:28+00:00

Bullcrap. You want to stay oblivious and stupid then do. But don't pretend there's any virtue in that.

fieldguy92 · 2020-09-19T11:30:02+00:00

If it wasn’t for hypergamy, men wouldn’t have to focus on power and dominance to get sex.

ex_red_black_piller · 2020-09-19T13:45:24+00:00

No shit sherlock. You think guys want this information to be true? Hell no, this pill stuff is bitter, depressing, and at times rage inducing. But it's a necessity at this point because women want it this way. Feminism, the CRM, and now social media have made the US pretty shitty unless you're a woman or a libtard SJW garbage person. If it makes you happier to go back to the puppies and rainbow blue pill, go for it, but going forward just makes things worse. If anything, we should try and keep going back to when things actually worked out well, but women and others will cry and stomp their feet. So welcome to the end, I suppose.

leftwingrightwingall · 2020-09-19T10:33:46+00:00

Man, so many people in here would be happy if a man died loveless his entire life if it meant playing the game women want them to play. None of the redpill or blackpill stuff wouldn't be spreading like wildfire if women didn't reward such behaviors.

jkonrad · 2020-09-19T14:13:40+00:00

It’s those power and domination attributes that builds nations and reshapes the physical world to our benefit and is responsible for all the nice things you have.

It is because of our dominion over this earth that we even survive as a species.

So to put it bluntly, your theory is shit.

lepetitdaddydupeuple · 2020-09-19T17:34:33+00:00

Sex is overrated
Happiness is underrated
The chaddest thing you can do is to live your life your own way and dont give a shit about what people think of you

domperina · 2020-09-19T12:26:34+00:00

Ultimately you’re going back to these views because they make YOU live a happier life. You said so yourself, you’re feeling better and many aspects of your life have improved.

Other people aren’t living happy that way and go on to do what works best for them. They can also find a way to say that they’re helping society by exposing the power dynamics or whatever it is they believe. Unless they are being assholes and deliberately hurting other people, you can’t imply that they’re selfish as opposed to you.

TheSnowyPlover · 2020-09-19T14:29:53+00:00

“Sex/power/dominance”

Soooo feminism basically?

HODL_monk · 2020-09-19T14:27:34+00:00

Society is oblivious, one way or the other. Only a fool would not be aware how the family court system has a huge anti-male bias, and could destroy your life, if you come into its crosshairs.'Society' would be a better place if we were free to live our lives as we see fit, but its gone down a dark path instead, and now we have to maneuver around it, to be free.

priestMarX · 2020-09-19T19:03:11+00:00

The reason people become toxic is because people have a schism in their psyche between the new red pill truth and their previous view of reality. Then you see that many people don’t have the self awareness of how the power dynamics have influenced their own life from childhood and all of their decisions and they don’t like feeling like they aren’t in control.

Once you can accept your own flaws and grow from there, you really can become more assertive naturally and voice your opinions in healthy ways. People in society like holding on to knowledge so that they can maintain power though. That’s why the views get shamed so much. And once you realize that, then you can really see how insecure people are. Just gotta be patient with them and let them know that that’s ok to feel that way. We are all just people trying to figure it out in our own way

runningvicuna · 2020-09-19T19:33:53+00:00

It’s a disgusting mentality. People are narcissistic and stupid.

AidsVictim · 2020-09-19T21:18:37+00:00

If you were socially successful before and trying to adopt this stuff doesn't work for you...then sure stop. Who cares?

Most people who latch onto pill analystics stuff are not successful - that's why they're here in the first place. And it's spreading because society is filling up with people who aren't successful.

You are mistaking the effect for an cause - TRP and the like are purely reactionary. TRP will continue gaining in popularity because every other social model has become so exclusive or simply doesn't work anymore that it becomes appealing as an alternative.

BlackPorcelainDoll · 2020-09-20T10:41:06+00:00

Yeah, there is other stuff to do, like play beautiful music.

Gackt · 2020-09-19T19:44:42+00:00

Yes society is going to collapse because I don't splurge on dates or let myself get cucked LOL

2020-09-20T00:01:00+00:00

I think it's healthy to keep the animal nature of our reproduction in mind; being aware of the differences between the sexes and not slipping into comfortable idealist fantasy.

However, I think using that as an excuse to slip into cynicism and hedonism is destructive, inauthentic and lonely.

Cockslap81 · 2020-09-22T20:01:18+00:00

Unpopular opinion and unrelated but religion is driving us backwards trust me

Sir_manalot · 2020-09-19T10:35:07+00:00

You are right, but here is the thing...

Those who base there life around it get what they want, those that don’t end up losing instead.

The only ones who are winning without focusing on it are those that are following it naturally.

So the only thing that will work is for incentives to change. Until then toxic masculinity will increase.

maid2kil · 2020-09-19T11:10:21+00:00

No one should "base" their life around those things. And no one should constantly be a projection of their views. That's pretty fucking obvious.

These ideas should absolutely be spread though. I can never quite understand why people underestimate just how influential sex is to society. We may live in a developed civilisation but we are fundamentally animals driven by a primal desire to reproduce. Freud, the father of psychoanalysis, said that the psyche revolved around sex. It's where the whole idea of "sex sells" comes from. This goes way deeper than what most people think. Unfortunately, these are difficult conversations that's too provocative for PC culture to deal with.

Men who do engage in these spaces, not just the red pill but in general, will hugely benefit. Women too, but the emphasis is particularly on men who have the odds stacked against them. Men are so out of touch with their masculinity these days and the beauty of the internet is providing men with the gentleman's cigar club type space they need as an outlet. Why? Because every man deep down knows why it is men who dominate society and drive civilisation forward. There's too many simps and betas around and women will lose out if men do wake up to the reality of things.

FilmIsForever · 2020-09-19T13:33:18+00:00

Great post, thank you. I relate strongly to what you’ve written.

Mr-X1 · 2020-09-19T13:27:22+00:00

Personally, I realized that when I had an innocent mindset where I was not even thinking of dominance, sex, relationships at all, I was at my best (mentally, how much people liked me, and even attention from girls),

Of course "positive vibes" often rub off onto others. This is one way of having them. Though notice that plenty of non-naive people can have such vibes without denying reality.

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creamypouf · 2020-09-19T17:26:37+00:00

Your main objection seems to be towards selfishness. Do you really believe in anyone that is purely altruistic? As in completely selfless, or even self-destructive, for the benefit of others? I think the majority of people doing acts of charity or good deeds do it for some form of reciprocity, whether it's direct or pseudo-reciprocal.

How many people do you know that share and talk about social issues (e.g. BLM comes to mind recently) and how many do you know that actually DO anything about it? It's because talk is cheap, and it's easy to feel like we did a good thing and we're a better person if we just talk and share things for "awareness". Also, nice guys tokens.

Apart from that, I don't believe in anything because it makes me feel a certain way (re. anxiety, positivity, etc). I believe in something if I think it is true. I can want and wish for power struggles to not exist, but it wouldn't change that I believe they exist. "One can do as they want, but they cannot choose what they want."

Fortessio · 2020-09-20T00:47:09+00:00

Yes.

Expensive-Guitar3609 · 2020-09-20T15:49:05+00:00

Thing is, even with all the banns, the sensorship, the feminists, all the mass media and the ideologies against it, these "pills" keep spreading.

In just a decade they have gone like fucking mainstream and I can't stop wondering why.

Roachcluster · 2020-09-22T19:22:38+00:00

Society has made this so. As an individual I can bury my head in the sand and hope everything will be okay or I can accept it and guard against getting fucked over. We all want to believe that happily ever after is where we will end up, but it is not the case.

SeemedGood · 2020-09-19T13:57:09+00:00

Ignorance is bliss?

Sigma1979 · 2020-09-19T13:43:47+00:00

Basing your life around sex/power/dominance dynamics and spreading those ideas is bringing the society backwards

"You get the behavior you incentivize"

"Don't hate the playa, hate the game"

DerekMorganBAU · 2020-09-19T13:44:49+00:00

If you have to "base" your life around it then it's not congruent and not sustainable. If it is your life then it's easy and effortless.

It won't set society back because you'll attract people who are into what you're into. I.e. submissive women who don't mind being treated like dog shit

gopher_glitz · 2020-09-19T15:01:00+00:00

Men are starting to realize that being told we're like birds (mate for life, loyal etc) was a lie and it's really like elephant seals, baddest most violent men attract the most women.

michael1962-01 · 2020-09-19T11:01:08+00:00

You go for the "society thing" i go for my mission with my young female at my side.

I achive my goals - you get the type of man you will be lucky wirh.

You depend on society taming your male to a neutrum.

I will not fall for that shit ever.

Title	Basing your life around sex/power/dominance dynamics and spreading those ideas is bringing the society backwards
Author	Honisalivebitch
Upvotes	136
Comments	119
Date	September 19, 2020 10:08 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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