Can incels be helped?

AssistTemporary8422 · 2023-06-25T01:23:49+00:00

That really depends on the individual. Some really can't be helped because their mental health issues are just too bad. Some can be helped with a lot of effort. And some can be more easily helped.

SweelFor- · 2023-06-24T19:37:57+00:00

Yes, why do you ask?

It seems like an obvious answer. It's possible for someone who is single to not be single at a later point in life. It's what happens to 99.99% of people.

Xade_Yt · 2023-06-24T20:51:34+00:00

inceldom is less of a lifestyle and more of a belief system. if they can break free of their toxic beliefs that hold them back, then they can find love

WWhiMM · 2023-06-24T22:48:33+00:00

Incels exist, yes; some people want a fuck partner but they can't manage to find a partner. To make a bad analogy, we don't say there's no such thing as "unemployed" people because we assume they might get a job with some more effort.
Everyone could be helped somehow... do you mean could they ever be in a healthy relationship? Maybe, depends on how attached they are to their insecurity and bad ideas.
People with all sorts of looks and situations manage to get into relationships. The only real requirement is that someone finds you likable.

vcreativ · 2023-06-25T15:23:31+00:00

Anyone can be helped. It depends on perspective and timelines.

But I fear you might be equating the state of having been helped with having sex. That's outcome based thinking, which, whereas useful on occasion, ultimately is too simple a metric to measure something as complex as life in any meaningful way.

Life isn't so much about outcome, it's more about perspective.

Self-discovery is a road we can all choose to travel on at any moment in our lives. And as we discover who we are, we develop into more than we were. And as we do that, all our wants, needs, hopes, and expectations of life change and refine with us.

Character is everything, never lose it in the pursuit of pleasing others.

Mean_Mechanic9889 · 2023-06-28T16:08:39+00:00

Some can, some can't. Some are romantics who won't settle. They deserve respect. Some are obsurd, mentally unstable mysoginists.

People are all unique, even within the same label

eefr · 2023-06-25T04:29:46+00:00

I'm sure they can be helped, but I'm definitely not signing up for that job. I don't need more misogyny in my life. They can take their angry unhinged rants to a therapist.

Edit: Oh, it seems like you want to know if they can get laid. Sure, if they can drop the misogyny.

Medium_Listen_9004 · 2023-06-24T21:26:08+00:00

Most people can be helped. They just gotta change their beliefs and judgements regarding people.

Convincing incels to shake the toxic beliefs concerning women and their supposed "roles" in life is going to be way easier said than done

pinealpresence · 2023-06-25T03:09:31+00:00

Furthermore do you think anyone is truly an Incel or is it all in the persons head because they refuse to try to do something about it?

I think some people are truly incels. I don't get why this would be a debate. All it takes simply put, is to like people who don't want you back.

After making more money, working on physical fitness, gaining wit, one could still struggle with dating if they can't find a mutual romantic interest.

Part of that struggle is their own standards, part of it is the competition.

spiraldinosaur · 2023-06-24T21:48:56+00:00

It's absolutely all in someone's head. It's not that they refuse to try to do something about it, it's that they don't understand what the problem is and so don't even know how to do anything about it. They typically think that it's their genetics and their looks when the reality is that it's their social anxiety, their situation, and their poor understanding of women and relationships that's holding them back. And all of those things can be changed with the right input and influence. It's absolutely possible to leave behind being an incel (and as before, being an incel isn't a real thing, it's a belief system essentially) with the right attitude, the right help, and the will to change.

xvszero · 2023-06-24T22:46:38+00:00

Sure they can be helped. Lots of people have specifically cited this sub as helping them.
This is a sort of impossible question to answer but I think most people can have sex if they want, especially if they're willing to pay for it.

MelissaOfTroy · 2023-06-24T22:31:16+00:00

When I hear "can incels be helped," I think 'can they be helped out of their warped state of mind?' and the answer is obviously yes. Incels can grow and stop being incels.

But when you say "regardless of their ...looks...etc." it seems like you are asking "can incels get laid regardless of their looks/age/situation?" So which question are you asking?

Naus1987 · 2023-06-24T23:09:47+00:00

No matter how shitty a guy is, there’s an equally shitty woman.

Whether those two decide to date is totally up to them.

I truly believe relationships are available to everyone. But no one is entitled to date someone above their quality.

WhiteGuar · 2023-06-24T22:05:24+00:00

Depends on the age and how many actual opportunities you got. If you are older than say 22-23 and literally no one has ever been interested in you, then I'd say it's pretty over. However, if your definition of incel includes people who actually got laid in the past and are just having a long period of sexlessness, then I think it's just a phase and you can always get back into business.

Feredi1 · 2023-06-25T03:50:56+00:00

Improve looks, get muscles, start jelqing

Those are literally the only things women care about lol as superficial as that sounds.

Those 3 things are the only thing you need and the only thing that matters

But if you want you can work on getting money/career so you can be a human atm machine. You’ll still get play but it will be duty sex

AbdelBoudria · 2023-06-24T20:06:05+00:00

The only thing that could help me is surgery. I'm saving up money to improve my eye area, nose and asymmetrical jaw.

I'm tall (6 ft), but I can't do anything with my current face and my race.

aberamax · 2023-06-24T21:46:48+00:00

Question for everyone: how many times did you try to match an incel friend with some female friend or acquaintance in a "casual" meeting?

To be honest, before judging incels, since we are all different, it might be insightful to look at how the incel behaves in real life.

For example, a friend of mine was totally clumsy with the girl I brought "casually" and he had a problem of "I'm too ugly even to talk to her". I helped him by telling her this fact, and she took the initiative and they were together for 5 years.

Another friend of mine, instead, was completely rude and angry, he started to rant at her and it was an impossible case.

I think most people are angry and sarcastic against incels but they are completely unaware of the personal situations and feelings of them.

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SufficientDot4099 · 2023-06-25T04:09:46+00:00

Yes, I have known people that have changed a lot. But I don’t think that online strangers can help them.

Title	Can incels be helped?
Author	-Seahawk
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Comments	74
Date	June 24, 2023 7:32 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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