R/Feminisms SECRETLY censoring even relevant, informative, and well-cited comments if the facts contradict feminist dogma.

TicTokCroc · 2011-06-08T16:44:59+00:00

I guess you just aren't an "awesome people".

I think the fact that any feminist discourse on the web needs to rely so heavily on censorship despite being a hegemonic social meme is indicative of its lack of truth value.

TicTokCroc · 2011-06-08T17:14:00+00:00

This is sadly nothing new. You should cross-post to r/feminisms_unremoved. Hopefully we can start getting a good collection going to quiet all those who would dismiss the concern as being petty.

Eogan · 2011-06-08T16:47:16+00:00

Deleting abuse victims and hiding abusers.

Feminism is an abuse culture.

cuteman · 2011-06-08T18:25:40+00:00

The easiest way for a flawed opinion or perspective to gain traction is to avoid information that might detract from the individual's goals.

If you're wrong, but you want to be right-- you lie and cheat as a means to your ends.

If you're right and what you say is true-- your words can withstand complete and total scrutiny on a factual scientific basis.

There should be no redacted comments in an honest and open debate. Censorship fears truth... it usurps the censor's control.

ExpendableOne · 2011-06-08T18:27:29+00:00

/r/feminisms is pretty extreme even by feminists standards. Check out this little exchange. According to their moderator, sexism against men doesn't and cannot exist.

kloo2yoo · 2011-06-08T17:11:48+00:00

this happens often enough that it's worthwhile to keep track of, for future study.

/r/feminisms_unremoved

ignatiusloyola · 2011-06-08T20:04:47+00:00

Yes, this is part of their FAQ. Any denial of patriarchy and the benefits of feminism is against the rules and will be removed.

Gigafrost · 2011-06-08T17:57:42+00:00

I think deleted comments with no replies might simply disappear. It was something briefly observed here in a recent /r/MensRights topic concerning /r/Feminisms's censorship. In other words, they're probably not doing anything other than their usual bullshit.

AnnArchist · 2011-06-08T16:46:41+00:00

They are now like religious organizations

omniamutantir · 2011-06-08T19:23:21+00:00

True feminism should be about equality for all, not victimizing women and blaming men for everything. Men in the past and in the present are to blame for many things, but so are women. Why can't people accept reality rather than try to skew it one way or another to fit their ideas?

2011-06-08T21:03:49+00:00

Your comment and resources were valid and presented in a non-confrontational rational way. You also are the only commenter to actually answer the original poster's question. For what it's worth you get props from me.

ManThoughts · 2011-06-08T17:04:29+00:00

The Goddess Cult must not be questioned. We'd better not draw any illustrations of a feminist, or they'll have us beheaded.

muchachomalo · 2011-06-08T18:57:00+00:00

Somebody needs to tell those women that mens rights doesn't hate women and most can't live without women.

GunOfSod · 2011-06-09T03:50:48+00:00

That's low.

If this is a moderator function change that allows comment be "stealth" deleted, it has serious implications for the transparency of reddit as a whole.

InfinitelyThirsting · 2011-06-08T16:59:12+00:00

As far as I know from my brief, disastrous foray into moderation, what you're showing is actually impossible. I have no idea how they're doing it. You can't ninjaban from individual forums, unless something changed in the last two months--only the admins can do that, and it's for the site as a whole. Deleted comments show up as deleted, and that's how it is.

Maybe they have set up codes to hide the deleted comments, along the lines of rage faces and such in f7u12 or all the crazy stuff in circlejerk? I'm at work, I can't turn off custom content right now, can someone check that?

masonmason22 · 2011-06-09T00:50:34+00:00

Out of interest, have you messaged their mod's to see what they'll say? They'll probably just use the excuse of saying you were trolling, but it's worth a try.

I guess if that turns up no positive results, try finding out what happens if you post in /r/feminisms or /r/feminism exposing their censorship? I guess that has the problem of maybe most people already know about their blatant censorship.

Ishmael999 · 2011-06-09T02:42:09+00:00

I agree with your message, but as a piece of advice, putting the word "secretly" in all caps makes you sound like a conspiracy theorist. As a tactical decision, I recommend putting it in lower case next time.

That said, the mods at /r/feminisms often are embarrassing in their censorship. Despite being a feminist, I think that that subreddit, and many other aspects of feminism, have some serious flaws.

capntightpants · 2011-06-08T22:26:25+00:00

sorry, but is it really a secret that they do this?

MAcFuzion · 2011-06-08T17:14:17+00:00

welcome to fox news.

anillop · 2011-06-08T19:49:22+00:00

Come on really is this even news to anyone at this point. How many articles do we have to see about this. This happens all the time over there because they do not actually want debate they merely look for reinforcement of their opinions. Al least in /mensrights the articles and comments get downvoted to all hell for different opinions but they are not removed by the mods.

Mumberthrax · 2011-06-08T16:51:44+00:00

Is it possible that this was caused by an automated process? The spam filter, perhaps? Did you try messaging the moderators and asking if the comment was caught in the filter?

shadowofthe · 2011-06-08T19:00:00+00:00

I'm confused...why in the world do you care? Did you honestly expect to have an intelligent and reasoned conversation on r/feminism? Also, do you think that you're going to change anyone's minds?

Much like anyone who openly admits bigotry, the only real option in these cases is to simply refuse to acknowledge their existence or respond to them at all.

kloo2yoo · 2011-06-08T18:38:36+00:00

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skooma714 · 2011-06-08T19:58:56+00:00

We know. Why do any of us even go there? What kind of reception do we expect?

2011-06-09T12:27:24+00:00

Getting banned from that piece of shit subreddit is an MRA rite of passage.

edit: spelling

steel13 · 2011-06-09T14:39:18+00:00

Can you provide me link you are referring to in your post?

2011-06-09T02:14:55+00:00

Why would anyone even visit there ? Its the one thing I don't understand about feminist is that they delete comments that they don't agree with.

They do the same thing on a lot of other feminist sites and its sad. If you can't come up with a real rebuttal then why hide the persons comment? For me it just makes the feminism movement look weak, they are hurting themselves by using censorship

If they disagree with the comment, then leave the comment and post why they disagree and show some facts, thats all.

TicTokCroc · 2011-06-08T19:09:30+00:00

Kettle, meet pot.

frakking_you · 2011-06-09T05:25:42+00:00

just like a woman to pull some shit like that...rabble rabble rabble

gbagly · 2011-06-09T05:39:16+00:00

Hahaha they're our rivals!

LeSpatula · 2011-06-09T09:17:42+00:00

I imagine the mods of r/feminisms as some angry, discontented, ugly lesbians.

enavin · 2011-06-08T18:32:51+00:00

There have been plenty of posts regarding this topic, it is a pretty well known fact.

Also, it is their right to do whatever they want as mods in r/Feminism.

Please stop making posts about this.

transgenderobot · 2011-06-08T19:41:38+00:00

I love how you guys (and girls) have a back and forth instead of working together towards actual solutions to inequalities regardless of gender. Hilarious.

Alanna · 2011-06-08T20:45:32+00:00

i mean, i get WHY in theory, but why not just write them off as a lost cause? people who don't want to see the truth will never come around. Like Christians, Muslims, Republicans, Democrats, all the people out there that delude themselves in order to make themselves the victim or blame their current state on someone/something other than themselves will never come around due to facts or reason or logic. And by attacking and debating them, even if they lose, you only reinforce their perception that their efforts are valiant and necessary to protect against "them".

Alanna · 2011-06-08T20:00:32+00:00

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TicTokCroc · 2011-06-09T03:53:10+00:00

Kettle, meet pot.

nanomagnetic · 2011-06-08T23:41:18+00:00

False. The page shows deleted comments.

Title	R/Feminisms SECRETLY censoring even relevant, informative, and well-cited comments if the facts contradict feminist dogma.
Author	Celda
Upvotes	217
Comments	136
Date	June 8, 2011 4:29 PM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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