Norah Vincent, author of Self Made Man, has died by assisted suicide (feminist tried to prove men have it easier and failed)

Surv1ver · 2022-09-02T19:16:22+00:00

No! Why did I first hear about her death now?

Her work as an author has had a huge influence on me and my view on sex and gender.

R.I.P.

CawlinAlcarz · 2022-09-02T19:20:31+00:00

Was she dying of some terminal disease?

I know very little about her other than what I just read at the provided link in the OP, however, I think I might like to read what she had to say. I suspect she gave an honest take on things based on her experiences based on the notable quote on the linked page.

RIP - it sounds like the world might be a lesser place without her.

Sbarjai · 2022-09-02T21:57:19+00:00

This is disheartening.

Most of us go through this day by day and get constantly told how much easier we have it, that we need to check our privilege, and that we should suck it up (similar as to how women handle false accusations)

Truth is, there is no privilege in being a man. At all.

Qantourisc · 2022-09-02T21:07:32+00:00

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/woman-pretended-to-be-a-man-dies-assisted-suicide-realizing-difficult

If this is to believed:it seems she never got over the mental difficulties and setbacks she faced from living as a man. In the summer of 2022, Norah finally succumbed to her pain and died at the age of 53 via assisted death in Switzerland.

So ... living in the shoes of a man can kill a woman ? (! Anecdotal non proven statement !)

DevilishRogue · 2022-09-02T21:50:37+00:00

Damn that sucks. She was someone I hugely admired.

tired_hillbilly · 2022-09-02T19:15:58+00:00

Norah Vincent is a hero. I will have no shit-talking about her.

chaun2 · 2022-09-03T01:39:52+00:00

RIP Norah. I wish she could have gotten a hold on her depression

LastSleep4274 · 2022-09-03T03:03:19+00:00

She was supposed to play pretend man for 2yrs and gave up after 18mnths. She said it was terrible, women treated her horribly, she also had to go to theraphy after the 18mnths. I guess we're strong lads, keep fighting

SteveBlakesButtPlug · 2022-09-03T16:27:58+00:00

One of the first comments I saw about this from a feminist sub was "it's hard for a woman to be a man. Men prefer their shitty situations"

Fucking scum.

narfywoogles · 2022-09-03T02:16:09+00:00

She was a legendary bro.

Shadowdragon409 · 2022-09-03T00:52:42+00:00

There is truth to the idea that she proved that the world treats men like shit, and it contributed to her suicide, but you also have to keep in mind that she was pretending to be a gender she wasn't. It wasn't the fact that she pretended to be a man, it was the fact that she was pretending to not be a woman. She was deceiving everybody she interacted with, and that can have some harmful side effects on the psyche.

I'm not trying to take away from her accomplishments, or trying to belittle the struggles men go through. I just think it's disingenuous to say that she killed herself because the world fucked on her too much.

Edit: her accomplishments. Not my accomplishments lol.

NormalITGuy · 2022-09-03T12:41:00+00:00

I always felt bad for her. The truth is, when she *actually* felt some of the pain it is to be a man that guys just harden against and are basically used to and over by her age, you kinda realize that that's not something anybody should ever have to feel, feeling like the world doesn't give a damn about you and you're basically just a workhorse. If that sets in it's a brutal realization, and without hobbies or family I can see why a person would have a mental breakdown.

Bergatario · 2022-09-03T05:52:22+00:00

Of course, men do have it harder. As it has been mentioned, men have to earn everything they get, but we get used to it as we grow into adulthood over many years. For her to go from an adult woman to a pretend man would have been brutal due to the lack of experiences growing up as a man and the coping mechanisms that men create with their friendships, sports, hobbies, etc. But another factor is that she wasn't a man at the end of the day. So you have to add that additional uncanny valley vibe that she carried along to every human interaction as a fake man. So her experience is always going to be artificial to a certain extent.

roninfly · 2022-09-03T02:42:39+00:00

She went through a lot to get the most genuine experience living as a man I suppose but I don’t understand how come it scarred her so much.

ChadWolf98 · 2022-09-03T12:59:08+00:00

I think assisted suicide is very dangerous to be legal. I dont know her mental status but I feel more shoudl have been done.

Morden013 · 2022-09-03T05:24:56+00:00

R.I.P. Norah. You have done a really important thing for men.

pappo4ever · 2022-09-03T18:10:07+00:00

Wanted to be a man all her life, finally died like a man: Depressed and alone, by suicide, for helping others.

2022-09-03T00:21:23+00:00

It's such a shame. I really liked her.

SnooMarzipans5669 · 2022-09-03T02:02:40+00:00

I saw her obit the other week (or more).

I am sad I did not get to meet her. Great book. Not perfect, but wow, for someone to be able to cross the gender line really helps us understand one another.

For faking a guy, she did a pretty good job. Not perfect, but still I recommend everyone get the book.

NightRespawn · 2022-09-03T03:46:11+00:00

Rip bro

HootsToTheToots · 2022-09-02T21:44:39+00:00

Man the way you worded this, is actually kinda horrible. Just making you seem heartless.

randomferalcat · 2022-09-03T14:23:35+00:00

I know it's men's right and everything but she had depression and it touches every genders.

women have it rough too sometimes and i don't envy them!

i like being a men!

Edit R.I.P Norah

Chemical_Custard6365 · 2022-09-05T08:48:06+00:00

😭 RIP Norah, I have the utmost respect for you, and have had it since i heard of you, I hope you found peace in the end of it all.

2022-09-07T01:03:31+00:00

She's our Tony Stark who snapped the gauntlet.

Dedianator65 · 2022-09-17T17:08:41+00:00

I just read "Self made man", I can't adequately describe how angry I am at the person that helped her end her life!

tha_Graet_King_Nub · 2022-09-22T06:08:17+00:00

Im glad to see so many people in the comments not shit talking her death. I just saw a tiktok clip like this one with a dude laughing at the news in a meme compilation, and I immediately had to knowmore about the situation that was going on. I read as many interviews and other articles related to her as I could in these past 2 hours, and I have to say I have gained massive respect for her and what she has done. Some of her views about her newest book, 'Adeline' also seemed to have struck a chord with me pretty hard. I have absolute respect for what she has done and am sad to know she is no more. Rest in Peace Norah Vincent.

2022-09-29T18:34:13+00:00

This title is very misleading. Firstly she was a true feminist, even if the title suggests that's bad. Secondly and more importantly, she didn't try to prove men had it easier. You clearly don't know shit about her or her work. Fuck off.

evilgorillamask · 2022-10-25T18:33:53+00:00

Lmao

Henry-Hamburg · 2022-12-10T12:58:32+00:00

The book containes revelations, revealed inconvenient truth for the feminist storytelling, and squashed the utilization of the patriarchy lie with facts.

needalife94 · 2022-09-02T22:02:25+00:00

Was she trans ? Went from women to man ??

R.I.P.

periodicchemistrypun · 2022-09-03T05:17:08+00:00

Lets put a little more recognition for Norah than that, she isn't just 'some feminist' or a random woman.

I think many of us remember watching that video on the book and really appreciating the compassion.

Man_of_culture_112 · 2022-09-03T05:30:45+00:00

~~"and post-modern feminism refuses to acknowledge their suffering"~~

A garbage article, we don't need acknowledgement we need better lives, we need material improvements to our lives. We need actual equality not for women give hollow "there, there" while making life hard for us.

odysseytree · 2022-09-03T07:28:50+00:00

We need women and transmen like her.

2022-09-03T01:48:35+00:00

Why no pictures of her being manly?

jesusandpals727 · 2022-09-02T21:47:44+00:00

Pretty disgusting title, Idk what else to say but be a better person.... please.

theuberkevlar · 2022-09-03T13:56:39+00:00

Can somebody translate OP's title for me?

2022-09-03T10:08:47+00:00

Good Fucking Riddance

stacyxxluv · 2022-09-03T11:28:51+00:00

Why do y’all keep bringing this story up as if it proves anything? This is just the experience of a single person who was, as it seems, severely mentally ill.

SweetMatty · 2022-09-03T00:53:04+00:00

So sad to hear about her passing. Does anybody know if she ever posed nude before?

Authorwannabe69 · 2022-09-03T08:38:20+00:00

Has anyone read the book here? How did it read?

R.I.P

MerchantFromTheVoid · 2022-09-05T10:51:50+00:00

Flip it and reverse it. What you get is a gold medal, championship title, woman of the year award and even maybe a nobel price. Gynocentrism at its finest.

These-Ad-2619 · 2022-09-07T16:42:35+00:00

That's highly disingenuous because she herself said men had it harder after she lived 18 months as a man.

Papist_The_Rapist · 2022-09-16T20:31:17+00:00

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2022-09-24T17:25:55+00:00

This is hateful and has nothing to do with men’s rights

CalmGhosts · 2022-10-04T04:45:03+00:00

After reading some of these comments, I’m just curious. You all love that she walked a mile in your shoes, but how many of you are willing to do the same with posing as a woman and telling the truth of your experience? Forgive me if I’m wrong, she never said men had it worse, just that women and men have some totally different issues to deal with.

Practical-Type7120 · 2022-12-02T19:37:55+00:00

Lies she didnt do it to proove men have it easier she did it to experience it first hand as an experiement but she took pretending to be something shes not too far and the added strain aggrevated depression she developed

Kseniya13 · 2023-01-26T05:39:32+00:00

I think it all depends on how strong mentally the person is.

Relevant_Drink8049 · 2023-01-30T22:06:45+00:00

The title is misleading. She wasn't a feminist trying to prove men have it easier. She was a lesbian who wanted to know what men are like. Many are saying she was radical feminist. She wasn't.

Also, she died 15 years after she disguised as a man so we can't conclude it was because of the experiment. What is true, though, is that she checked in to a hospital after the experiment (she said it herself in an interview).

Title	Norah Vincent, author of Self Made Man, has died by assisted suicide (feminist tried to prove men have it easier and failed)
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Date	September 2, 2022 7:04 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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