Women don’t care if you can best somebody up or are trained in MMA etc, they just want somebody who looks tough and strong

bluestjuice · 2022-12-21T18:49:25+00:00

I don't think women want a guy that engages in drunken bar fights, but a guy that does boxing or MMA or whatever as a hobby is hot. Muscles from lifting things are cool. Muscles from a skill like fighting, or some other sport, is very attractive.

teeethpeach · 2022-12-21T19:37:26+00:00

If a guy is trained in boxing or MMA or BJJ I find it admirable and attractive. It’s hard work + they know how to fight, what’s not to like?

But I’ll keep it real, a 5’7 dude who knows krav maga isn’t magically more attractive than the 6’1 dude who casually lifts and has a decent build. Height is still way more attractive than fighting ability, esp because people don’t really fight irl anyway

gopher_glitz · 2022-12-21T19:19:20+00:00

Women want a man who looks tough and strong...

Titanic Leonardo Dicaprio, Timothée Chalamet, Tom Holland, Jungkook(bts), Pete Davidson etc etc has entered the chat

caption291 · 2022-12-21T18:42:59+00:00

They want a tall guy who just looks imposing.

And why is that? To me it seems like women would be attracted to tall and imposing guys because of what it implies about their fighting ability. That's fairly obviously the reason they would find it attractive.

So do you think the logic that "Literally 95 percent of couples in the modern world will not encounter a fight or the need to fight." applies there and disproves that women are attracted to height in the first place?

bigtoasterwaffle · 2022-12-21T21:57:20+00:00

I think one thing you're missing is that women are usually terrible at judging who would win in a fight, and often way overrate things like height or being lean. A lot of times they're probably trying to pick a good fighter/protector, they just don't have as much experience/knowledge about what that actually looks like. Girls who are involved in mma or other fighting sports often heavily prefer guys who actually know how to fight

BrummieAMN19 · 2022-12-21T19:02:43+00:00

Eh its in response to men who say short dudes can't fight, can't be tough, strong or KO a tall(er) man. And its not a hypothetical scenario when you've seen in play out IRL before for example I've seen an acquaintance of mine who trained at my former Muay thai gym KO a 6"4 man who started the fight/mouthing off and warned him multiple times in a smoking area of a nightclub. This is also plays out in prison consistently ex convicts say the most dangerous and toughest men are short(er) guys and they've beaten the type of tall men you'd think that would flatten them. My cousin who is 6"5, a former amateur kickboxer and is in prison atm says this also. But of course I wouldn't expect sheltered white picket fenced emaciated nerds on here who base their whole worldview on stats and theories to realise this.

It's not really about what women think.

hypotenoos · 2022-12-22T13:15:04+00:00

And after the swelling goes down and the bruises heal the tall guy will still be tall and the short guy will still be short…

Cjaylyle · 2022-12-21T21:56:24+00:00

all wrong and obviously from the perspective of someone who avoids fighting from fear of being beaten up.

Nothing is more fundamental to maleness than, "comfortable with violence against rival males."

anjovis150 · 2022-12-21T18:53:39+00:00

Never had to fight anyone in my life and got married

TOMTEXOMA · 2022-12-21T18:53:44+00:00

Sure but once the male has transitioned his body how long does he keep it up before he detrans?

2022-12-21T20:26:22+00:00

If a girl is literally hanging around men who fight often, you don’t want that woman, trust me.

TRP: But she’s hot and the wifey material isn’t hot

prizefighterstudent · 2022-12-21T22:55:59+00:00

Barely seen a fighter with a fox, rarely see a bodybuilder-type with one either. At least in the West.

cast-away-ramadi06 · 2022-12-22T01:26:17+00:00

I think women's attraction to height is more about social dominance than physical

TempoIndigo · 2022-12-22T03:26:14+00:00

I literally dont care how trained you are, I live in an open carry state and will shoot you if you’re a threat - being a violent guy in today’s day seems so stupid to me

God made some men tall and some men short. Colt made them equal.

DisasterPeace7 · 2022-12-22T03:58:47+00:00

Incorrect, if you look like a million bucks and she sees you get your ass whooped handily, she'll dry up faster than the desert, all that muscle and training is little to no good if you can't actually protect the one you love if the situation never arises

GhostofCamus · 2022-12-22T07:55:41+00:00

Beating the dog shit out of loud, imposing men has gotten me laid a bunch. Sounds like you just had a soft upbringing, and not much life experience outside of it.

TATA456alawaife · 2022-12-22T09:56:26+00:00

This checks out. A really tall and imposing figure doesn’t get threatened and doesn’t need to fight, so their capacity for it doesn’t really matter. A small guy may need to fight.

MistyMaisel · 2022-12-21T20:15:49+00:00

Dude, you're so wrong. Even before I was a woman training in martial arts and guns, I was way more impressed and attracted to guys who could actually fight than guys who are just big. Just big isn't interesting at all compared to actually knows what they're doing.

This is why women love men in uniforms (cops, army, navy, etc.) or MMA fighters or action movie stars. Jason Statham and Keanu Reeves fuck all day every day compared to any other tall male celebrity you can name. Cuz it is so fucking cool when a guy can legit fight and protect you compared to "just be intimidating and hope that works".

Women love when a guy can back it up. Especially any women who also train. Guys I went out with that would try to be protective cracked me up. Like, you're just big. You're asking me to bet a big guy against a big guy that my big guy wins. Not a toss up I want. Now, my short trained guy against a big untrained guy. All day. I'll take him to Texas Roadhouse and pay for his dinner. That's a man with something real to his name.

ZealousidealAd7191 · 2022-12-22T08:25:22+00:00

Disagree. Women are really good at reading social queues in men, historically they had to be able to discern a man who was dangerous from one who wasn’t quickly and based on minimal info.

That said being a big/tough looking guy who has no intention and/or no ability to stand up for or defend himself or by proxy his woman would be immediately obvious to your average woman and would be a huge turn off.

Its true a woman doesn’t necessarily want her man fighting in the streets all the time, but she absolutely wants him to be willing and capable of it. And the willingness and the capability is something a man carries with him at all times. Its the inherent threat of violence that actually keeps the peace and creates the safety that women crave.

Cookielemon · 2022-12-21T19:25:28+00:00

No woman wants a guy who isn't going to put his money where is mouth is. It doesn't matter how imposing he looks. If he doesn't stand up for himself and runs from confrontation. I don't want him. There is literally no point in dating a dude that won't physically protect you. If he isn't scrappy when he has to be he is unattractive.

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2022-12-21T19:43:11+00:00

i'm waiting for the " even if i am 5'11 people respect me " comments

2022-12-22T03:13:36+00:00

you have to clarify what type of women you mean

some of us are lesbien, dyke, butch, etc

ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2022-12-22T03:28:55+00:00

Eh. Partially true but mostly false. Women do care if you can defend yourself and her. If you guys get attacked and you get curb stomped guess how long she's gonna be with you? Not long

full_stack_maxx · 2022-12-22T14:19:46+00:00

well trained MMA short guys could take out a tall guy

false

you're average 6' guy would take a trained 5'2 - 5'7 guy out in a fight.

Administrative-Lie85 · 2022-12-22T18:39:53+00:00

Most men who I see with women look the opposite of "tough and strong."

Dstar538888 · 2022-12-23T05:58:49+00:00

I've personally never been attracted to the whole short and muscular look at all....just not my thing....I'll take tall and lean/fit over short and muscular tbh...

thisreallyisnotok · 2022-12-24T07:00:43+00:00

Men who think women want the same thing have shit dating lives.

leginsstuffLOL · 2023-01-15T17:22:08+00:00

Are u mad that volkanovski beat holloway lol

full_stack_maxx · 2023-03-25T12:48:36+00:00

i don't know why you keep bringing the "sheltered sport" thing as it doesn't relate to my argument.

the point i have issue with is that a midget can take out a 6' person, which, unless i see with my own eye, not going believing for a second

Title	Women don’t care if you can best somebody up or are trained in MMA etc, they just want somebody who looks tough and strong
Author	Cjaylyle
Upvotes	24
Comments	154
Date	December 21, 2022 6:29 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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