The solution to the Deadbeat Dad is simple!

wtknight · 2023-09-07T00:31:41+00:00

Re-flaired CMV as this post is making an affirmative claim

justmyredditskin · 2023-09-07T01:02:43+00:00

Destigmatize women using birth control & accessing abortions + women staying single + women choosing to being child free

Nobody stigmatises birth control nowadays.

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2023-09-07T10:23:28+00:00

Women already have easy access to birth control and abortion, so what are you saying really?

Here is how you avoid a pregnancy: a)don't have sex, b)don't let him finish inside, c)use condoms, d)use contraceptive pills or have a diaphragm installed, e)plan b pill. If everything for some reason fails, then get an abortion, it's legal in most places, and if it isn't, then go somewhere where it is. Any man who doesn't want the kid, assuming he makes a little bit of money, will very be happy to pay for the abortion because the alternative is paying 18 years of child support. And if a man refuses to use protection, don't have sex with him. It's that easy. Women have the final say in when, how and where sex happens, not the guy.

The problem with most single mothers is that they don't pick the right guy. They don't pick a guy who is financially stable, can afford a kid and is serious about raising them. They don't actually wait to marry the guy before they start having kids with him. The people who are somehow "pressuring women" into having kids are also the people who are pressuring women to GET MARRIED to the right guy before they even attempt to have kids. Most single mothers get pregnant from a guy who they barely know, who is a deadbeat with zero upwards trajectory and have only dated him for a couple of years. It's all about the tingles in most cases. Then they whine about the "deadbeat" dads and try to dodge accountability for their poor decisions and choices.

operation-spot · 2023-09-06T23:30:25+00:00

There are already less deadbeat dads because there are less new dads in general due to the low birth rate.

begayallday · 2023-09-07T04:37:35+00:00

Are we just going to pretend that every single mother with a deadbeat dad has been a single mother since day one? Lots of dudes who are not paying child support were just fine with supporting their kids while they were married to or still in a relationship with their kid’s mom.

Safinated · 2023-09-07T00:25:58+00:00

We already have child support

MasterTeacher123 · 2023-09-06T23:53:54+00:00

Dudes have always clowned guys who raw dog random chicks and don’t use protection Lol

Are you claiming there’s not a stigma against that right now?

TheRedPillRipper · 2023-09-07T00:25:49+00:00

women can truly have 100% responsibility for the children they have?

If this is true, how much responsibility does a man have pre-conception? Is it 50-50? 40-60? If a woman is on birth control, is it still 50-50?

Conversely post-conception? Is the man 50-50 responsible?

The fact is women do have 100% of the choice.

Godspeed and good luck!

BeautifulThoughtes · 2023-09-06T23:16:39+00:00

There are currently 18 types of birth control available. There is also the option of remaining completely celibate. If you get pregnant in this day-and-age, you're either incompetent, or you wanted it to happen.

The solution to the deadbeat dad is actually stigmatizing hookups/ONS, culturally enforcing monogamy, and celebrating sex within marriage. I agree also with stigmatizing men who don't use BC.

Strong family units are the key to eliminating fatherless homes.

FutureBannedAccount2 · 2023-09-07T00:32:05+00:00

Then 100% of the decision should be up to women and men should have no say in having children

This is already the case in many places. First there's the obvious one which is abortion. Then there's safe havens where a woman can drop their child off no questions asked with no duty to inform the father. Then there's adoption where as long as a woman isn't married she's able to put the baby up without consent of the father.

more women who don’t want children can stay away from men who do

more women can remain child free

fewer men will have the possibility of being deadbeat

women can have truly 100% responsibility for the children they have

There's nothing preventing women from doing this right now.

jay10033 · 2023-09-06T23:27:03+00:00

With all the birth control available to women, this post is meaningless. Abortion is available if you move to where abortion is available.

Women currently decide whether they have children or not. Who exactly is preventing them from making that choice?

FlightOfThePigs · 2023-09-07T00:28:49+00:00

This easy, women shouldn't settle on a guy who is a deadbeat and have a kid with them.... the women in these scenarios are usually dead beats too. Takes 2 to tango.

Happy_Nuclear_End · 2023-09-06T23:45:18+00:00

Unless it comes with financial abortions no, this is just giving more advantages to women.

John_Oakman · 2023-09-06T23:52:36+00:00

Guilt tripping & shaming are all the remaining tool left in mainstream society to coerce behavior changes. Based & redpilled real men of the manosphere are immune to those, women will not stand for such oppression. Therefore all that's left to do is to guilt/shame productive but undesirable males to step/cuck up and become platonic aromantic asexual coparents.

And the best part is, neither real men or women need to change their behavior in any significant fashion.

bluestjuice · 2023-09-06T23:37:53+00:00

Is the idea that women will have 100% of the choice to have a child and therefore take on 100% of the responsibility to support and raise the child?

It’s an interesting idea I suppose but the birthrate statisticians would probably freak out.

Mobrowncheeks · 2023-09-06T23:36:54+00:00

I’ll add.

Women should only date men who have abnormal amounts of wealth so that it can be certain that he can financially support those children.

Also, women should only date men who already currently father children. So that they can see which men who definitely already take there children.

They should even marry into families where children and wives are already present to be sure that the man fathers his children and honors his wife.

Maybe the parents of the women can even aid in finding these men who are marriageable . Maybe even make deals with those men or their families…

Wattehfok · 2023-09-07T04:50:53+00:00

You’re thinking too small.

Mandatory semen harvesting and vasectomy at puberty for all men.

Children can only be conceived via IVF through binding contract after a 12 month cooling-off period.

Mandatory abortion of all accidental conceptions(thru vasectomy failure, etc).

I’m probably joking.

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TopNYJeweler · 2023-09-07T13:42:42+00:00

Two things:

Birth control is not stigmatized, not even by religious people anymore because it prevents abortions.
Over 70% of childless old women actually wanted to have children. Childfree women exist and considering that soon half women in their 30s will be childless, it is not a big deal either. You are not special for having or not having kids.
You cannot regulate "stigma" so anything you say about it is nonsense.

Title	The solution to the Deadbeat Dad is simple!
Author	sweetbrown89
Upvotes	2
Comments	62
Date	September 6, 2023 10:58 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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