CMV People that dont have real life Experience/functioning Social Life should not talk about Dating Strategy, it is just annoying how deluded those takes are.

not-a-dude-at-all · 2023-09-26T10:23:38+00:00

A lot of men aren't that interested in dating and just looking for excuses to not to do that. Because there's expectation and pressure on men to not to be single and initiate everything all the time. And easiest way to deal with that is to find a reason why it's impossible. Instead of just admitting that you aren't that interested or just can't be bothered.

pegthepatriarchy_ · 2023-09-26T09:03:32+00:00

this is the most important post in ages here.

I love that it comes from you as a man because when I tell this same stuff guys do not believe me but maybe they will believe you

El_Don_94 · 2023-09-26T10:08:20+00:00

These takes are rare here and are contrary to red pill beliefs.

13choppedup2chopped · 2023-09-26T12:02:05+00:00

I agree with the overall point of this post but I think it goes both ways. Most marriages are not occupied by oafish men leeching the life force out of their wife. Most men take fatherhood seriously and help out, as they always have. Many men, if not most nowadays, cook and clean. In fact, marriage is fun most of the time. Men aren’t looking for some crazy supermodel level girlfriend. Men are not porn brained, if that means anything. Scary men are real but the vast majority of men that women encounter are just trying their best.

Proudvow · 2023-09-27T00:30:16+00:00

Status > looks but let's be real there are way more dudes with good looks than guys with any meaningful status in the adult world. The latter is very hard to achieve.

Woko127 · 2023-09-26T16:28:22+00:00

Couldn't agree more. You'll have men on this sub who clearly don't leave the house trying to argue about dating dynamics. It's laughable and people don't even have the self awareness to realise how childish they come across to other people.

throaway2s1fsfsf4 · 2023-09-26T09:23:03+00:00

You can have no real life experience and still talk accurately about dating strategy. It just require to be intelligent and observant about the world aroud you, it really isn't that complicated.

KlingKlangKing · 2023-09-26T10:47:57+00:00

Ya most red pill guys are autistic and never go outside. Real life doesn't work like that

Leaving-trunk · 2023-09-26T14:57:56+00:00

You can be the total package but if you’re not in the showroom nobody is gonna buy it. Conversely a good salesman can sell a bunch of a lesser product with strategy and work. It’s why you see hideous dudes with cute girls, they’ve sorted out some niche where they fit. Whether that’s “rich guy” or “club access guy” or whatever.

purplish_possum · 2023-09-27T00:25:59+00:00

Money doesnt make you genuine more attractive

It doesn't. It makes you a bigger target for exploitation. Women put up with rich unattractive guys to get cash and prizes. Women don't lust for rich unattractive guys.

Busy_Ant_8160 · 2023-09-26T15:08:33+00:00

insta followers etc doesnt matter

How much do IG followers actually matter then, in your opinion?

Ok_Smile_60 · 2023-09-26T21:54:36+00:00

You don’t like all the Indy folks here talking about relationships? It’s hilarious

Able-Imagination3695 · 2023-09-26T21:05:11+00:00

I think that a lot of the men you're talking about struggle with homosexuality and joining the redpill/incel/manosphere gives them plenty of excuses to not actually go out there and date women. For a group that centers women as much as it does, I've never seen a group of supposedly straight men as fixated on conventionally hot guys and their sexual activities. Legit, the only groups I've seen that talk about hot guys and their dicks as much as they do have been gay men. I have never - and I mean EVER - witnessed this many "straight" men go into great, specific detail when it comes to describing sexually attractive men aka Chads.

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MrQuiteLimited9 · 2023-09-26T12:50:18+00:00

Dating apps get the attention, but the biggest detriment to society and especially dating is social media. You are now judged not based on the person you are, but the number of follower you have on Instagram.

BigCollectionFor · 2023-09-26T15:22:04+00:00

If you are forever dating, something is wrong. Only long term married people should give advice.

letsridetoglory · 2023-09-26T18:02:14+00:00

Good take but your not accounting for the internet, the internet has massively skewed everything. Everyone can cheat at any moment now, its literally insane.

Epiphanic_Eros · 2023-09-26T19:07:51+00:00

Completely. It’s ready doesn’t seeing the depth of delusion of these guys. And the degree to which they cling to it!?! What’s the comfort?

jay10033 · 2023-09-26T19:32:03+00:00

No dude, that has any reallife experience will EVER claim that a average looking 5'11 NBA Player

Good thing a 5'11 NBA player is largely a fiction.

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2023-09-26T20:06:47+00:00

a 6'5 goodlooking Mcdonalds worker has more SMV then a average looking Premier League Soccer Player

Depends on the guy's goals and what he is looking for. A really hot young guy who makes average money has higher chances of getting a low bodycount loyal hot girl if he wants family and kids, quite simply because he can get to her far earlier. The soccer player can probably bang more instathots, but he will be stuck with gold diggers and clout chasers most likely.

Status like insta followers etc doesnt matter

Status and social proof matters to some degree, noone is denying that. The level of that degree is debatable though.

Social skills make ZERO change in you're smv

Social skills are mandatory, generally no shy and socially awkward guy with a small social circle is successful with women. That being said, once you are on a average/decent level, it has severe diminishing returns. Getting to Casanova levels won't make much difference.

Money doesnt make you genuine more attractive

The argument is that money doesn't make you more sexually attractive by itself, not that it doesn't make you more attractive. For long term, obviously money matters a lot for most women. Money can also be used to buy better looks, for example suit from wallmart vs. tailored suit, prepared meals/supplements/personal trainer, and cosmetic work, whether it's veneers, hair transplants or more invasive things. Also it helps a bit with first impressions because money facilitates more expensive exclusive forms of fun and entertainment. But it generally doesn't make you more sexually attractive by itself.

As for the threshold, I'd personally go with 7/10, that's where physical attractiveness starts to have diminishing returns, not 6/10.

MECHA_DWEEB · 2023-09-26T21:03:24+00:00

Puzzleheaded_Pin4857 · 2023-09-27T00:20:43+00:00

Yup. Was just on a thread with people asking questions about why something won’t work. Go to a club and try it a hundred times. That’s why.

Title	CMV People that dont have real life Experience/functioning Social Life should not talk about Dating Strategy, it is just annoying how deluded those takes are.
Author	No_Incident4004
Upvotes	20
Comments	88
Date	September 26, 2023 8:24 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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