The case of Billie Eilish's open dialogue about masturbation and her observation of the oversight of men's bodies in societal discourse is reflective of broader cultural attitudes. The contrast in reactions between men and women openly discussing sexuality underscores the disparities in societal perceptions. Eillish is a good way to enter into this broader conversation.

Additionally, the framing of sexual crimes in media and public discourse often perpetuates gender stereotypes and biases. The example of the article "Cougars in the Classroom" highlights how language and narratives shape our understanding of sexual misconduct, with women being portrayed as emotionally conflicted and men as predatory. It's crucial to examine the underlying biases and motivations of individuals shaping these narratives, such as Dr. Michael Oberschneider, and to question how these biases influence the portrayal of gender and sexuality in the public sphere.

We see these negative body and sexual views more when take the many different intersections of identity. Historically especially have been viewed as little more than rutting animals sexually and men have many negative body stereotypes related to penis size both showing how we view men's sexuality as animalistic as opposed to the more holistic views of women and how we do negatively speak on men's bodies. When we move to trans amab/afab individuals we have more complex views to examine. Transwomen are derided as men who fetishize women and transmen are traitors with internalized misogyny by many TERFS and conservatives view trans individuals as being mentally ill or sexual deviants. There is a strange overlap in how transwomens appearance is discussed because it is often along the lines of not passing.

The lack of backlash on Eilish's open masturbation and the underwhelming reaction to her comments on men's bodies is a good way to start a conversation on these issues.

While women do have legitimate areas they should have cultural focus on it seems whenever men wish to bring up and focus on issues relating to sexuality and body image we are maligned for ignoring women, while when trying to add to the conversation already happening and join conversations women are having its "taking focus". The current state of the manosphere is a direct result of predominantly feminist and progressive attacks on any men's groups that were healthy, by disregarding men's issues, it forced these groups to feel intense anger. That is what happens when you are marginalized. Those groups that derided healthy men's movements use today's toxic ones as justifications to continue to suppress men's issues. If we seek healthier masculinity these issues need to be taken up by at least progressives. We need to treat these as real issues that are deserving of attention.

In what ways can we push these conversations in progressive spaces?