Again with the "all men are the problem".

63daddy · 2025-04-16T17:41:00+00:00

Blaming all men for the actions of a few is basically the Nadir logic fallacy or guilt by association, same with viewing all women as victims. Sadly, such clearly flawed logic is becoming far too accepted, and is the basis for modern identity politics.

When people use such logic fallacies, call them on it. Feminists especially, love their logic fallacies.

Miserable-Most4949 · 2025-04-16T17:33:21+00:00

She's German. Ask her if she's ok with someone saying "all jews are the problem" cause that's no different than saying "all men are the problem".

Suspicious-Sleep5227 · 2025-04-16T17:53:30+00:00

There is no patriarchal system. When men do something wrong, they are typically lone wolves and if they operate in groups, they are usually part of gangs. There is no legitimate institution through which men as a group undertake any kind of endeavor let alone inflict violence upon women. If men were allowed to have their own institutions, they might actually be able to hold bad men in check or keep them accountable for bad acts, to include, violence against women.

No_Reaction_2168 · 2025-04-16T18:06:31+00:00

I mean, more women than men off their children. Should we make a similar post about all women?

DerKleinmeister · 2025-04-16T19:04:59+00:00

Here in Germany theyre discussing a revival of the mandatory military service. Some want this for both genders. Most want this just for man. Oh boy, i cant wait to die for a country that sees me only as a fucking problem.

But i guess a well known Politician of a well known green german party will chuckles in joy when we die, cause she thought its a good thing when men blown of their hands by accident, because they cant hit their wives anymore.

I dont want to live on this planet anymore lol.

Sirpatron1 · 2025-04-16T18:10:44+00:00

The victim card is the only special move they repeatedly use.

KarateInAPool · 2025-04-16T18:00:57+00:00

Oh sweet irony… She says that, yet most violent crimes occur against men (both men on men, and women on men)—doubly, that’s what patriarchy looks like? You mean it gets worse??

xaliadouri · 2025-04-16T18:55:54+00:00

They're not so scared when they beat their kids more than men. They're fine targeting weaker people.

Also interpersonal violence between lesbians seems about as common as among heterosexual couples. (Some say more.) Maybe they just know how violent they'd act if they were stronger?

ADDaddict · 2025-04-16T17:55:26+00:00

And she probably wonders why men won't vote for her party.

gre2704 · 2025-04-16T18:09:32+00:00

Or maybe women are just too brainwashed by feminism.

Just in front of the apartment complex I live is a bus stop. For nearly three years now there's a woman taking the same bus as me in the morning. I never approach her, mind my own business and keep a normal distance. She's always earlier at the stop than me so she can see me exiting the door of the apartment complex. Yet every time she acts like I'm gonna assault her or something. However much trauma she might have experienced, that's just irrational and dumb.

thrownaway9090000 · 2025-04-16T17:36:56+00:00

Context: She's a Bundestag member (Germany's federal parliament), and is the parliamentary group leader of the leftist party Die Linke ("The Left", the post-communist party descended from the East Germany's Socialist Unity Party). She was also the party's list leader candidate in the last elections two months ago.

The quote is from a podcast she did on March 25.

Those elections also showed a massive gender gap between men and women aged 18-24. According to an exit poll, ⅓ of young women voted for Die Linke, and overall, women 18-24 voted 65% for left-wing parties (The Left, Greens, SPD, BSW)/28% for right-wing parties (CDU/CSU, FDP, AfD). Men 18-24, on the other hand, voted 49% for right-wing parties/44% for left-wing parties.

TrilIias · 2025-04-16T21:48:14+00:00

"The problem is men... she is afraid when she meets men"

Women, and especially feminists love to do this. They take women's emotions or imaginations as concrete evidence. Women are afraid of men? Well clearly that means men are the problem and did something to warrant women's fear. It cant possibly be that women are timid or paranoid, it must be men's fault because women's emotions and imaginations cannot ever be wrong.

Right now there are also obviously a bunch of women who think that "Adolescence" is a vindication of the vilification of men, as if it's a compelling example of male behavior that warrants women's fear and demonization of both men and boys. Never mind that it's a fictional drama.

Then there was also the time that women pulled the whole man versus bear argument, and when confronted with the concept of "per capita," the counterargument that bears are more likely than men to act violently towards women when per encounter, they did the same thing. "Well it should tell you something that women are more afraid of men than the bear, you should be listening to women when they explain why they feel that way." I'm not wondering crap, it's because a lot of women are timid, paranoid, and socially encouraged to express contempt for men. Women's fear isn't automatically justified.

Then there was the other time that a lot of women seemed to think that "Barbie" was a compelling feminist argument. Once again, don't you mind that it's fiction or that all of the social commentary contained within was shallow and substanceless.

It's just the whole "wife gets mad at husband after dreaming that he cheated on her, because if he was better she never would have had a dream like that" scenario, but played out on a societal and ideological level.

jack_avram · 2025-04-16T19:24:34+00:00

What is she gonna do? Genocide all men? Ok, and then what? Respectfully follow up with your strategy in its entirety mam...

Magical-Hummus · 2025-04-16T20:11:31+00:00

Ah yes, the so-called "patriachy" a.k.a. a bunch of rich old farts that make the life of all miserable including all men.

Ancient_Loan_7 · 2025-04-16T21:15:36+00:00

I always laugh when I read stuff like this because I can tell you numerous occasions where I’ve been walking at night and a woman has walked towards me in the very middle of the sidewalk and refused to budge towards the other side so I can easily pass (remember that “sidewalk chicken” trend around 2020 when they refused to move out of the way of men on the sidewalk?). But then they’ll run to social media and act like they’re about to be slaughtered in a fucking horror movie because they saw a man minding his own business in their vicinity after dark.

AmuseDeath · 2025-04-16T20:26:26+00:00

Generalizing all men as monsters, aka sexism. This is why nothing is getting done.

The point is GOOD men and GOOD women need to band together against BAD men and BAD women. Notice the label is GOOD/BAD, not the gender. People like this woman encourage people to think in terms of gender rather than each person's moral compass. The awful logic of this woman and many others is why nothing gets done and we resort to gender conflict.

GodHand7 · 2025-04-17T05:49:16+00:00

Normalized misandry once again

PoliteCanadian · 2025-04-16T21:00:12+00:00

I thought this kind of hate speech was criminalized in Germany.

voric41 · 2025-04-16T21:51:30+00:00

Immigrant men cause far more crime.

And without local men, more immigrant men will come in

These women complain so much without realizing they’re the ones causing the issue. Soon they’ll have to wear burkhas

Fair-Might-5473 · 2025-04-17T02:24:18+00:00

Have these broads ever actually managed to fix their issues? We had Feminism for decades. Don't they get bored of hearing the same thing over and over at this point? Create your own system then and leave?

BowtiepastaMasta · 2025-04-17T03:02:11+00:00

Stop giving her hateful heart a platform.

AnuroopRohini · 2025-04-17T06:54:48+00:00

Women are the one who commit most child abuse then men as per 2022 US Department of Health

So all Women are the Problem here

henry_nelson7 · 2025-04-17T11:51:00+00:00

Historical experience has shown that any society that respects and honors its MEN will reap the (blessed) fruits of this practice first.

💙♂️🩵

walterwallcarpet · 2025-04-16T18:20:07+00:00

Translated from the German: "The problem with all men is that none of them fancy me. Therefore, I can't attract one, and have him bend to my will. Also, I quite like ladies...especially those exotic migrants.."

Mojo_666 · 2025-04-17T00:04:31+00:00

Why are they always ugly? Seriously I’ve never seen an attractive femenist, not once not ever. 🤷‍♂️

annoyinglyAddicted · 2025-04-17T03:03:14+00:00

Men in the military: don't give your life to protect politicians like these.

RealStarkey · 2025-04-17T03:21:08+00:00

All violence stems from the feminine.

grimpaaj · 2025-04-17T10:35:15+00:00

She looks like someone who would say that

Then-Ad3638 · 2025-04-18T00:43:51+00:00

The problem is women. No man is afraid on the streets at night when he meets immigrant men, but he is afraid when he meets women, regardless of whether they are immigrants or not.

Disastrous_Average91 · 2025-04-18T10:54:26+00:00

I’ve always known anti immigrant rhetoric is often only applied to men

Away_Entrance1185 · 2025-04-19T09:28:42+00:00

"Male immigrants are the problem", yet these very same women also protest against mostly female immigration, as in Sweden the Feminists wanting to limit immigration from Thailand and the Philippines because it's mostly female immigration and obviously "Swedish men are exploiting them".

ControlOk8832 · 2025-04-16T18:11:23+00:00

Have the Germans learned nothing about the consequence for having a blind hatred of a specific group of people?

Unreal_Daltonic · 2025-04-16T17:29:13+00:00

translation?

Clan-Destin · 2025-04-16T18:07:59+00:00

Am I the only one who thinks it would be enough to say “des hommes” instead of “les hommes”?

thrownaway9090000 · 2025-04-16T18:15:40+00:00

EDIT: Can't change the post title, but looks like I may have made a problem with the translation. It should be translated as "the men are the problem".

Touchinggrasssomeday · 2025-04-16T18:44:59+00:00

Have they ever thought we said" not all men" reason? Because they definitely heavily imply that

jack_avram · 2025-04-16T19:16:16+00:00

Cannot at all possibly take anyone serious who blames an entire sex. "I shall blame 100.00% of the entire group, bwahahahaaaaw - ego mega stroked, dopamine receptors heavily engaged."

These humans evolved together, BUT... not anymore! hehehehe

Absolutely dystopian like some episode of Black Mirror, this mass wave of narcissism

Valiantay · 2025-04-16T20:17:24+00:00

She hasn't won and won't win anything.

Who cares what a delusional candidate says

ragebeeflord · 2025-04-16T21:05:38+00:00

this is very likely an unpopular opinion here but in Germany we have problem with migrants being over represented in crime statistics (primarily sexual and violent crime). I’m specifically talking about migrants from muslim countries. Their culture is vastly different than ours in Germany which is imo the main problem. Many people (like her) are ignoring this problem, letting in millions of people from countries where non-muslims, homosexuals and women are seen as less worth. Instead of a cultural problem she sees it as a male or patriarchal problem which is imo the wrong way to look at it. If she’s against the patriarchy then why is she in favour of letting in (uncontrolled) so many people from countries with actual patriarchal systems. Germany, however, is not a patriarchal country. I’m not at all saying that foreign people are all bad. There are many great people with foreign origin that are well integrated or aim to be and are an enrichment to our country but I think that Germany would definitely benefit from a stricter migration policy. What we have right now is not it and many people here are unsatisfied.

mildbuzz · 2025-04-16T21:11:19+00:00

probably the same sort of person that would claim that sexism against men doesn't exist. that argument always pisses me off.

PrivatPirat · 2025-04-16T21:45:11+00:00

According to official statistics from the BMI and BKA, the majority of murder victims — as well as victims of most other severe violent crimes — are men.

https://imgur.com/a/kT6Eko4

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/downloads/DE/publikationen/themen/sicherheit/BMI25028_pks-2024.html

https://www.bka.de/DE/AktuelleInformationen/StatistikenLagebilder/PolizeilicheKriminalstatistik/PKS2023/PKSTabellen/BundOpfertabellen/bundopfertabellen.html

griii2 · 2025-04-16T21:54:56+00:00

She is a feminist - why am I not surprised

https://heidi-reichinnek.de/feminismus-fuer-die-99/

r/ToxicFeminismIsToxic

fluxdeken_ · 2025-04-16T23:35:02+00:00

Great, they are declaring a war on men

WifeCantWontDontCook · 2025-04-17T00:16:30+00:00

A few years back, I was walking down the street at night. Now, women in the country where I live are generally sane, not poisoned by the fruit from the tree of feminism and Western brainrot media.

So, I was on the sidewalk, minding my own business. And in the distance, I saw a young woman walking towards me. It was a well-lit street, cars passing by, in one of the safest large cities in the world. It was unlikely that she would feel unsafe, but she might.

As she's walking towards me, I remembered a post I read on a women's subreddit. The users had argued that men should cross the street or go out of their way to avoid women walking at night, as doing so demonstrates proper consideration of the woman's feelings.

These unhinged women, who had obviously spent an inordinate amount of time watching Law and Order: SVU and crime documentaries on YouTube, were so clearly convinced that it was a reasonable expectation for a man to go out of his way because of how a woman might feel.

The woman and I passed by, not even sparing each other a glance.

I had an epiphany at that point. Something I had struggled with for years became clear as day.

Women's feelings are not my problem.

I'm never going to harass a woman. I'm never going to assault a woman. I'm never going to make a woman uncomfortable by doing something inappropriate. If she wants to cross the street to avoid me, well, that's her prerogative.

I've got my own problems. I've got a lot of things going on in my life already. Two sons who need constant attention. A wife who also relies on me. A house to take care of, a challenging full-time job, my fitness, another dream that I'm currently pursuing. Men have been so conditioned by society to throw away what's theirs for women that we would do something as patently ridiculous as take a detour for a woman whose name we'll never even know.

So OK. She can say that. Men are the problem. Great. She's not my problem though, and so if she doesn't want to walk at night with men at night (who are the majority of night shift workers, by the way), she can just not walk at night.

Not my problem.

mukulsingh099 · 2025-04-17T00:44:53+00:00

And the same women will advocate against harsh punishment for criminals in name of human rights

WoollenMercury · 2025-04-17T00:48:27+00:00

God She looks like she took a pan to the face repeatededly

aivisst1984 · 2025-04-17T05:52:28+00:00

I always said Men things rational and women things emotional,so in politics biggest problem is a women

mrkpxx · 2025-04-17T09:03:51+00:00

Sexism in line with the left-wing narrative.

Excellent-Berry-2331 · 2025-04-17T09:34:41+00:00

"Prejudices are always a good benchmark for how dangerous a group is."

aaaaaabbcc123 · 2025-04-22T03:22:00+00:00

it’s true.. 🤷‍♂️ women are allowed to be upset idk why it’s always. big deal when women speak ab an issue that’s been going on forever. if you’re offended maybe it’s cuz you’re the type they’re talking ab. ppl on this sub claim “not all men” then say all women think the same way and it’s extremely unfair and literally contradicts everything y’all say 🤦‍♂️ men needa stop trying to make themselves victims in this sub when society has always been catered to us.

Taco-Time · 2025-04-16T18:13:52+00:00

She's sort of got this point about it's almost always a guy, but the whole it's all guys rather than looking at specific groups of guys is disingenuous. No one is scared to see a Sheldon walking down the street.

LiquidDreamtime · 2025-04-17T02:54:39+00:00

You keep moving the goal posts to find a point where men look more favorable.

I was talking about murder. Now you’re talking about domestic violence. You’re trying extremely hard to play with statistics to downplay the role men play in nearly all versions of violence. Men start wars, they engage in the wars, and do most of the killing of other men in war. Men commit most murders too. And every school shooter and mass shooter is a man or boy.

And here you are acting like high rates of reported domestic violence between lesbian couples is a “gotcha”.

You have an axe to grind here and do not care about lifting men up or addressing any problems we all face. You just want to make excuses and do and say anything to absolve yourself and all of us of any responsibility or accountability. Good luck.

CRescort · 2025-04-17T08:43:03+00:00

This is the price we pay for having fatherless girls taking out their "dady issues" in public...

InsaneBasti · 2025-04-16T19:54:53+00:00

As a few comment here go smth like "haha dumb germans didnt learn", i do wanna point out that she is just psrt of the loud and dumb group thst most of us laugh at. She is know for vocalizing a twisted view thats simply wrong. The actual truth is fear of groups when youre alone, and it doesnt matter if its a group of men or women both are scary to all genders.

Title	Again with the "all men are the problem".
Author	thrownaway9090000
Upvotes	705
Comments	259
Date	April 16, 2025 5:26 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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