Hypergamy and Pornography Driving Up Beta Standards

ADarkerNight · 2014-05-25T22:31:56+00:00

The jakeface had a post, some long time ago, about fat being the root of western girl problems. He pretty much nailed it saying that when there is a low supply of attractive women, the demand just blows those girls egos out the water. If even a third of women are not desirable for mating (fat being just about the worse thing you can be for you and your children's health) that seriously skews the whole supply/demand thingy.

He was saying that in places where most women actually look like women and not whales, girls were friendly, open, and all around didn't have the bitch shields that western women do. I think he was somewhere in ee when he wrote that.

VZPurp · 2014-05-25T20:50:11+00:00

Standards haven't gone up. Women have let themselves go.

Meatclap · 2014-05-26T08:41:41+00:00

I don't think being fat or unattractive are as much an issue for women as men assume. One of the lies of feminism is that men and women think, feel, and perceive things the same way or very close the the same way which is why equal treatment is paramount, including equal ideas of attractiveness or sexual activity. An example would be that it's only fair that women should sleep around as much as they want just like men, because the thinking behind this, sexual desire, modality, and more, are the same.

A simple truth is that women are predictable and immature. They say they want what they're told to want, the think they want what is advertised, and ultimately they settle for what they never wanted to begin with. In that order, the nice guy is what sounds good, the bad boy is what looks good, stability is what they settle for.

Again in that order; the nice guy is an attempt, like cosmetics, to deceive others into believing they are better people on the inside than they really are. That they are capable of true empathy or emotional depth. They've swallowed the blue pill, they take the lie and they knowingly recite the lie creating a generation of frustrated angry fed up men, doormats, and making a future run at it with children they feed this lie to in order to cement the role of the beta male doormat.

The bad boy appeals to the sense of adventure they all uniformly believe they want and deserve, even if they never tell others this openly. Again all part of the big blue lie. The bad boy is a guy they aren't thinking three steps ahead of, that's why he leaves her, why she's let herself get fat and believes she's still "gorgeous" and "sexy" and can keep him interested in her. She's seen him in movies and read about him in books, thinks he's the one she can tame, ironically forgetting or ignoring that if he becomes tame she will become bored with him, that he will become the nice guys/doormats she says she wants but oft ignores in her hypergamous impulses and selfish behavior.

Stability is where she usually winds up, and then only if she swallows her immature sense of pride, has grown fat and used, or is just plain desperate for any kind of validation, having grown so used to the easy validation her being an (at least) modestly attractive female had won for her [There are so many articles on this it's silly]. Stability is her resignation that her party life is over and it's time to just hook onto whatever she can, quietly, secretly hoping that Mr. Big will appear someday anyway, because he was gospel, he was tattooed into her ego saturated pea-brain for most of her life as the very plausible ideal. He is the trophy she will always want no matter who she's with.

Women care less about looks and more about appeasing their need for validation and satisfying childish impulses. Lift all you want, preen as much as they tell you, be a little more metro, contort yourself into whatever you think will make them want you, at the end of the game they're still playing things their way because they are not the same, they are the gatekeepers, because the rules and too many of the other players are on their side for them to need to do otherwise.

2014-05-26T08:29:51+00:00

Both genders are holding out for an ideal partner that doesn't exist because the 'soulmate' concept has been ingrained into many cultures per media since written tales of princes and princesses. There are really many factors at work here, not only does porn consumption dull male sensibility, it also portrays women as objects to be used (and abused) which may be one factor why ONS has become so prevalent in the recent decade or two - rather than looking for a partner, men are wasting their time looking for ONS'

2014-05-25T23:59:45+00:00

Standards haven't gone up. Product quality has gone down.

paracog · 2014-05-26T03:24:42+00:00

Bring back those old days when college girls were in shape! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Women_Basketball_team_-_The_George_Washington_University.tif/lossy-page1-250px-Women_Basketball_team_-_The_George_Washington_University.tif.jpg

magicalbird · 2014-05-26T05:23:57+00:00

Easy solution is to work on everything you can control.

In short: male 5s think they can land 7s, fail and jerk off. Female 5s think they can land 8s. Succeed occasionally. For a night. Everyone loses.

Disney told everyone we could have anyone. Reality really hits hard especially for the lower value males and females.

It's more like everyone could have anything if they're 8+ in SMV.

scalentorn · 2014-05-25T19:24:03+00:00

You've got point in what you say but nevertheless, you should always be aiming higher and higher while picking your partner.

That's why I hate everyone who says "wow, she's outta my league". But yes as you have stated, if you're not getting an 8 after numerous attemps for a long time, then yes, you should lower your standards and go for a 7-6 or increase your value.

Johnny10toes · 2014-05-26T05:15:46+00:00

They got to wait until the girls kids grow up. They'll find someone at 40-45 now...

2014-05-26T12:19:48+00:00

Serious I see this all the time, guys who are 4-5s on every known scale who never get laid and feel entitled to 7-8s and end up friendzoned in the process becoming bitter fags cuz "I'm such a nice guy but I get friendzoned all the time"

valesauce · 2014-05-26T12:53:21+00:00

Look up some red pill articles on sexbots. He artiste had a good on in particular. Men who are attractive will only have more power as time goes on. Men who are not attractive won't care about women because there are much better alternatives to what they can get (mgtow 2.0). That leaves the hypergamous women who aren't 8 and above in the dust. Long story short we guys are fine for another few generations until they start putting us on martial law.

Even if he could bang 24 chubs in his 30s, the cost to benefit is too low to bother. The illusion of sexing an 8 is 30x better than actually fucking a 4, at least for me it is fat women are nasty and mean on top of it lol.

valesauce · 2014-05-26T18:58:29+00:00

it's not all male 5s think they can land a 7, it's that 7 is the minimum quality of woman that any sane man would be willing to invest anything into for the cost/benefit ratio to not be against him. while i'm up for long term with a woman who's plain but treats me like a king(i can train her into smoking shape anyway but i can't untrain a shit personality), there's no fucking way i'd waste my time and resources on a 5 who shit tests me and behaves like a cunt...

any man with half a testicle and any respect for himself would do the exact same thing, and by depriving 5s of attention she might just get it someday that her vag isn't made of gold. if all he can land is landwhales because he doesn't have the motivation to up his value, then at least the illusion of an 8+ pleasuring him via porn is better than the alternative(getting lost in her ass fat trying to do doggy).

i can't believe how fat acceptence is even a thing, like what the fucking fuck...the only reason fat women are so ego inflated is because guys who aren't 8+ get desperate as fuck and start hounding these women out of sheer starvation. i even have a buddy in another state who's mostly beta but a great guy, he's in decent shape, eats well enough. he married a woman who was at least 30% body fat. i've never met the woman but i hope she's the real deal and doesn't frivorce him.

DanReggins · 2014-05-25T20:35:57+00:00

This is why I left the US.

You can thank the cultural marxists for this bullshit.

Ironically, with me, they win. I see their shit, but I'm going to stay with my East Asian girlfriends who are 13 years younger than me... which is their endgame. Dilution and extinction of the caucasoid.

everyone_wins · 2014-05-25T22:14:52+00:00

everyone loses

Lol, someone needs to make a user name that is converse to mine.

On a more relevant note, I am so apathetic to this harsh reality. Who the fuck cares if other people are miserable because they are victims of their environment? I'm happy, and I get laid, and I win most of the time. Nothing else matters much to me anymore.

iluminatiNYC · 2014-05-26T12:41:18+00:00

Personally, I think it's a part of how the internet is making things worse for the muddled middle. The elite men and women have more access to more sex than ever before. Meanwhile, if you have a particular kink or fetish that would turn off most people, you're winning anyway because now, you can find a context where you have a high SMV much easier in the past. For everyone else, it's making things a mess. Just because you can download the dream (for a guy) or get a hot guy to break you off from time to time (for a woman) doesn't mean you're that hot.

That said, it's easier for guys to unplug from the dream than women. I think most guys have enough of a grip on reality to realize that porn is Just Entertainment, or can figure it out given a few weeks to unplug. The women had a flesh and blood guy in their presence. So long as they are get the occasional hot guy to break them off, they can Keep Hope Alive Jesse Jackson-style until it's too late. Then, we all suffer.

circlhat · 2014-05-26T16:01:41+00:00

Betas/omegas develop higher standards of female attractiveness by watching porn.

There is a saying in prison, "IN 6 months s(he) will be attractive" , in other words the longer you go without sexual release the more less attractive females will be attractive.

if you jack off you will not have fat acceptance, if you don't jack off for two weeks back fat will be sexy.

In short: male 5s think they can land 7s, fail and jerk off. Female 5s think they can land 8s. Succeed occasionally. For a night. Everyone loses.

So wrong, We see more attractive people on TV every day, movie stars , rock stars are typically attractive and yet no one complains about that.

Add this to the fact the most popular type of porn is armature, a guy that is a 5 will usually out of depression hit on a 1, and get rejected

2014-05-30T01:59:32+00:00

Half of American Women are unfuckable i.e fat.

USA is fat-fetishist heaven. You know, the guys whose deepest fantasy, sometimes fulfilled is fall in love with a slim girl and contribute to her porking up to over 200 lbs..

Many of these fatties were slim once. In the deep corners of the internet, you can find ridiculously long threads chronicling the various ways cute girls pork up, via variously culled Facebook photos.

MrMagwitch · 2014-05-26T05:38:57+00:00

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tsotha · 2014-05-25T18:41:14+00:00

maybe if everyone is that concerned one could you know... improve things a little.

Ive always suspected that people would treat each other better if everyone looked good/young because thats our instinct.

AgentSmith27 · 2014-05-26T01:21:43+00:00

If we are going to talk about sex as a free market, then you can't try to "regulate" it in the same sentence.

You know why guys in their 30's don't chase younger fat girls? Sexual attraction has more value than any of the things that TRP typically complains about. The girl was a former whore? Most people don't care as long as she is the most attractive girl they can get.

That is just what most guys value, and you won't be able to change that...

FeelLikeFlexing · 2014-05-26T15:50:31+00:00

In short: male 5s think they can land 7s, fail and jerk off. Female 5s think they can land 8s. Succeed occasionally. For a night. Everyone loses.

This is not a confidcen issue. Men are always gonna try and date out of their league. Its the job of the 7-10s to lock down the females in their class and keep them from needing to drop to 4-6 levels.

raceAround126 · 2014-05-26T13:31:36+00:00

Quitting porn was the best thing I ever did. Quitting smoking was far more difficult I'd admit, but after quitting porn I feel it's contributed to my self esteem and really what I now shouldn't expect from real sex and sexuality.

Plus, having an entire 4TB drive now suddenly clear is just fantastic! Saved me a bundle!

After quitting porn, the few times I've dipped in and watched it since, it has done absolutely nothing for me. It doesn't have the novelty it did when I was 13, I don't feel attracted to any girls or any situations, it just seems very mechanical and tiresome.

swolebird · 2014-05-25T19:31:38+00:00

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throwaway2343454 · 2014-05-25T23:08:51+00:00

men who have an outlook where a woman is unfuckable or fuckable, period.

So I'm not alone. I don't really grade women at all, there's no difference to me between a 6 and a 10 because in my mind - a hole is a hole as long as it's fuckable.

2014-05-25T19:18:53+00:00

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cascadecombo · 2014-05-26T02:10:58+00:00

These guys would really do good banging chubby 24 year olds but they have no clue how low their SMVs are. The chubby 24 year olds think their SMV is higher than it is because hey landed a drunk 8 once.

No thank you. chubby 24 year olds need to be getting 0 dick so they realize they need to stop being chubby.

Those drunk 8's who have no standards, well it's amusing because those guys usually pop their pole into anything.

Title	Hypergamy and Pornography Driving Up Beta Standards
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Date	May 25, 2014 6:31 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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