Is there a reason red & purple pill claim women love shopping/spending money despite the vast majority of minimalist blogs, youtubes (including things like the financial diet) are started and ran by women who dont want those things?

passepar2t · 2019-02-01T10:01:58+00:00

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Hope this helps.

Dash_of_islam · 2019-02-01T13:37:02+00:00

Is there a reason people think men are getting weaker today, when all the power lifters and bodybuilders are men and are getting bigger and stronger than 10 years ago?

You are selecting a special group that is NON RANDOM and then analyzing the demographics of said NON RANDOM group and then generalizing to the overall population which is Bad Bad Bad Bad Bad statistics

reluctantly_red · 2019-02-01T10:46:13+00:00

Women consume those shows and books as well.

KikiYuyu · 2019-02-01T17:45:37+00:00

Are you legitimately asking why some women do one thing and some women do the other?

petrichordium · 2019-02-01T14:38:09+00:00

America is an obese nation with a tendency to worship eating disorders, as well as a consumerist junkiescape with a tendency to worship minimalism.

The people running blogs about interior decor are likely going to be women and a few queer men. Thus the minimalist blogs are likely to be the same. Women still do the vast amount of consumer spending. This is BOTH because of them running the house (most kids would be wiping their asses with leaves if it depended on dad keeping track of things) and ALSO because of 321PK’s comment about matching blacks.

It can be both!

Incidentally my ex who is ALL about minimalism still buys way more random stuff than i do, she just throws everything she isn’t immediately using out.

Aaren_Augustine · 2019-02-01T10:14:06+00:00

I spend money on stupid shit like video games, Warhammer 40k or a watch. I have yet to buy a new TV and haven't for the past...oh 15 years. I simply can't justify the cost and it's very frustrating that I do the market research only to see that damn price tag and go NOPE. My largest buy has been a new computer that I paid 1700 for because my old ass computer flat lined.

We do however spend 3 to 5k on vacations. Just bought a new 45k Honda Odyssey. And we got a awesome ass Viking table that cost 3k. I mean, whatever, I like my wife, but when she complains about a game purchase I kind of chuckle.

To me it ain't even about superficial shit. Most women are just far more expensive than men. Even with your examples and even when you got some dudes who spend a fucking fortune on their gun collection or some fast and the furious car hobby.

And isn't this marketing 101, women are usually the primary spenders?

Nodoxxintoxin · 2019-02-01T10:38:28+00:00

I am a “ leanfire” woman and converted my husband to the philosophy. I have to admit that most of the FIRE (financial independence retire early) message boards like MMM and Early retirement extreme are populated with more men than women. A high percentage of folks looking to FIRE are engineers for whatever reason.

shonenhikada · 2019-02-01T10:48:19+00:00

Women Influence 83% Of All Consumer Spending In U.S

Nevidimka- · 2019-02-01T10:17:35+00:00

ok but if 1 in 100 women runs a blog like that I'd be surprised.

I do think womens spending is overrated by men as a whole. In my experience women buy more small things, men buy more expensive things.

For example I spend about €1000 a year probably on clothes and makeup, where my SO spends probably €400 on clothes. But then he spends €4000 on a new tv, probably will last about a year of 5 before he wants an upgrade, where back when I was living on my own, I'd just buy a second hand one for €100 and be perfectly able to watch shows on that one. I think all in all it evens out.

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CamoWoobie10 · 2019-02-01T10:13:49+00:00

They are just a more visible minority. Take all those bloggers and video makers you're talking about. How many is it, a few thousand people? Out of a population of 150m+ women in the United states alone.

peterlongc · 2019-02-01T15:42:02+00:00

what you're referencing (Marie Kondo) is a reaction to loving shopping so much that your life is overflowing with the stuff you bought

madcockatiel · 2019-02-01T19:02:46+00:00

I think that these female pro-minimalism coaches exist because of first world women’s tendency to overbuy and overspend. Men certainly buy unnecessary shit too, but their spending patterns are different and they tend to be less self critical. Exact economic/cultural reasons aside though, women are more likely to look at their spending and say to themselves “Damn, I have a problem. I wonder if someone out there can help with this.” Which leads them to discover Marie Kondo, minimalism, etc. The antidote wouldn’t exist unless the poison was there first.

blackedoutfast · 2019-02-01T19:41:57+00:00

women are always looking for some way to become an e-celeb so they can get rich and famous from blogging or making youtube videos instead of working. minimalism is just trendy right now (and relatively easy to do), so women are jumping on board while it's hot.

also, there are a lot of dudes who will get into a minimalist lifestyle and end up saving a lot of money, but i bet that most women who get into minimalism end up spending money and buying shit.

minimalist guys will just throw away all of their extraneous shit. women will get rid of their old stuff, but then decide that they need to buy new clothes and furniture and home furnishings and organizational shit and whatever else to fit their new "minimalist" lifestyle.

ThisIsJustATr1bute · 2019-02-01T20:52:18+00:00

Men think women b shopping just because we tend to browse entire stores and see what’s there. The average women doesn’t actually buy the majority of what she sees.

Just because men get in an out of the store with a plan in mind doesn’t mean he’s buying less.

ScootsScoots · 2019-02-01T21:36:37+00:00

It doesn't matter. Women do the vast majority of consuming in the economy. Once again, stop listening to what they say and pay attention to what they do.

esiemualB · 2019-02-02T00:42:06+00:00

My experience is that there is a much bigger pressure on women to spend more money on "shopping". For example, it is expected that a woman buys a new dress for every big occasion. You can't just have that one nice dress and wear it to every wedding. The same thing goes for most fashion items. The companies want to sell more stuff, so they find creative ways to create artificial needs, for example by changing fashion all the time (what colours are in style, which cuts are considered fashionable etc.), by producing low quality products, by producing clothes that are so thin that you have to wear them in layers, by producing trousers with unusable pockets so that you have to buy a purse etc. The same thing is true for other "useless items". There is pressure on women to buy decorative items for their home. This means that many women will have boxes with seasonal decoration.

With that in mind, isn't it obvious why movements against this consumer culture are lead by women?

nevomintoarce · 2019-02-01T12:15:49+00:00

Men don't need to adopt a minimalist lifestyle inspired by bloggers/writers because they don't have shopping addictions to start with.

Source: I just came back from lunch with a new makeup sponge, a witch hazel toner, castor oil and tea.

crackrocksteady7 · 2019-02-01T14:33:40+00:00

despite the vast majority of minimalist blogs, youtubes (including things like the financial diet) are started and ran by women who dont want those things?

these vlogs are probably clicked on by women trying to control their shopping addictions and horribly failing

Ultramegasaurus · 2019-02-01T15:40:11+00:00

Frugal men are much less likely to make a phony blog on the internet to attention-whore.

quasirealikecreature · 2019-02-02T19:33:55+00:00

Hmmm... I dunno. Maybe they are making content for a niche? I know for sure the person you linked doesn't have to practice being frugal, since they make thousands and thousands of dollars through youtube every month, like almost any girl can do if she is at least a 6/10 and puts the minimal amount of effort into production.

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