The main thing keeping men from dating fat women is social pressure, not lack of attraction

DashneDK2 · 2017-12-27T07:06:58+00:00

Nope. Fat women are pretty ugly. Some can disguise it to some extend with clothes, but naked is bad bad bad. Also, fat (& meth) is absolutely the worst on early ageing. If you are fat in your 20s, you are 45 at 30.

Merger-Arbitrage · 2017-12-27T07:17:06+00:00

I'll preface this by saying being overweight or fat definitely makes a person LESS attractive than they would be otherwise, so you don't misunderstand me. But the thing is that it does not make women so unattractive to men that they would want to chase them for sex or relationships. In fact I would go further in saying that every heterosexual man has fantasized about one at least several times in their life.

It's a bit of "social pressure" and also the fact that they are less attractive (as you point out) to the point that you're only mildly attracted to them from a physical standpoint. It's weak attraction, which is the distinction that you're missing. It might be enough for a screw here and there... but not for long-term attraction.

EsauTheRed · 2017-12-27T06:30:29+00:00

wtf are all of these posts from you claiming men are attracted to fat women

I've gone on dates with fat women, I'll eat food and chat and such but I won't make a move and will be visibly disgusted and stop being affable if she makes any kind of advances on me

Also, you aren't distinguishing between levels of fat

Some girls are able to maintain a figure despite being a little chubby, some girls bloat up and just need to get it through their thick fucking pig skulls that no one wants to fuck the blueberry from Willy Wonka

RockinSocksII · 2017-12-27T07:58:59+00:00

Lol

You’re nuts.

Fat women are gross hell just their personality is gross.

Lack of self control - check

Lack of healthy lifestyle habits - check

Not to mention they’re fat, which is just gross. We need monumentally more fat shaming in this country.

mgtow_1 · 2017-12-27T06:37:50+00:00

Not the case for me or any of my close friends. One even divorced his wife because she got fat and refused to even try and lose weight.

cxj · 2017-12-27T07:15:29+00:00

Fat people smell. And really bad. They also take up too much space. And it is hard to find pussy through those fat rolls. And you telling me that somehow the opinion of strangers matters more to me?

rulenumber303 · 2017-12-27T06:14:15+00:00

Pretty much. It is also why the joking about fat women has some of the same tone to it that joking about gayness tends to have... where we all know that some men are joking about how they wouldn't do something that secretly, in the right place and at the right time, they'd be all about doing.

EsauTheRed · 2017-12-27T09:51:50+00:00

I have no idea how you'd get to this conclusion and I'm a dude who's attracted to overweight and fat women. What makes you think other men are attracted to or have secretly fantasized about fat women?

I think that while a significant amount of men would still fuck a fat girl if there's no other option they prefer to be with someone who's not overweight. I guess for a lot of men fat (up to a point) is still better than nothing. That doesn't mean it's social pressure keeping them from dating fat women or that they're dreaming about one.

MercedesBenzoAMG · 2017-12-27T09:55:19+00:00

Mate look if you have a thing for fat girls that's cool, no one cares for real, but you don't need to come on here and make daily posts trying to justify it to us you get me?

Your post is absurd, take the average man and give him a choice between a healthy weight woman and a fat one for the night, and tell him none of his friends will know who he picked... the majority would choose the healthy one every time.

Even the stereotypes about fat girls being eager to please etc are questionable in their truthfulness.

I along with the majority of men am simply not aroused by overweight women. That's a part of why I made sure I lost weight myself. I want hot girls, so I keep to a healthy weight so I can get them.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2017-12-27T15:26:53+00:00

there was a storyline on the not so great show "rescue me" that was about this, one of the young handsome firefighters had an affair wioth a fat girl and REALLY liked her but didnt want to be seen in public with her

[deleted] · 2017-12-27T06:48:02+00:00

Nope, pretty attracted to skinny girls

Monkey_Jerk · 2017-12-27T07:44:50+00:00

How fat are we talking? This fat? Or this? The fomer, yeah with a pretty enough face. The latter, nah I'll pass.

yayeey15 · 2017-12-27T07:46:16+00:00

The main thing keeping men from dating fat women is social pressure, not lack of attraction

The attraction is the main thing, social pressure only plays a minor role.

CMV.

In fact I would go further in saying that every heterosexual man has fantasized about one at least several times in their life.

If you mean fat as in thick (I.E OVERWEIGHT but with a lot of curves as well) then sure, a lot of guys certainly has.If you mean the average fat/obese girl, who by the way have more or less no curves (very flat), then not even close. The attraction just isn't there, these fat chicks are invisible in the real world. Maybe they will get some attention from desperate men on tinder, but in the real world, walking around college campus or around the mall you wouldn't even notice them.

Instead what men care about is how their friends will see them for dating one or bringing them home.

Never heard of anyone that has friends like this, guys also don't care nearly as much about societal pressure as women do.

While we are at it.

The main thing keeping women from dating short men is social pressure, not lack of attraction

CMV

Women are by nature very influenced by societal standards and what their friends think (compared to men). This is documented psychological phenomenon.

Augustus_Rex · 2017-12-27T08:57:14+00:00

No.

In fact I would go further in saying that every heterosexual man has fantasized about one at least several times in their life.

This is projection.

If you fantasize about fat women go date a fat woman. Ignore superficial criticism from society. Most Americans are fat.

762Rifleman · 2017-12-27T09:45:54+00:00

I hate to sound an asshole, but I don't care about social pressure. The reason I don't want to date fat chicks is because I don't find them sexy. I like most body types -- pretty much anything of legal age too young to collect retirement benefits and weighing less than 200 pounds is okay with me. I'll have sex with them -- good puss is good puss -- but I don't want to be with them long term. However, OP, if you're alright with fatties, have fun!

TrueRustyShackleford · 2017-12-27T09:48:58+00:00

A lot of man are already dating fat women who were fat when they started dating. This is mostly in the LC and LMC.

In the UMC and UC there's significant social pressure against this and that does keep a significant minority of men in those classes from dating fat girls. I'd still say a majority of men in those classes are not attracted to fat women, I know I'm not.

MakeMoneyNotWar · 2017-12-27T20:37:28+00:00

Wow, it's not social pressure. Just look at the most popular categories of porn. You're in private so there's no social pressure on what porn you watch. I think pornhub looked at this, and the most popular categories for men are "teen." Now if you've watched porn, 99+% of "teen" porn consists of thin youthful women, or at most curvy (as in hourglass figure).

Is there a market for fat porn? Sure, but it's niche.

Secondly you can look at the rates charged in other sexwork markets, from cam performers to prostitutes. This is also not impacted by social pressure because the market is mostly underground in the U.S. The highest rates are charged by thin youthful women, who are in the highest demand. Of course, there are fat women who are sex workers, but the rates they charge a nowhere near as high. In my local market, for example, a thin and young woman can charge close from $500-1000 per hour. A fat young woman typically charges under $300 per hour.

The two examples I give are revealed preferences, or how a true market prices SMV.

[deleted] · 2017-12-27T17:01:42+00:00

No, men are willing to dump fucks in fat women every so often.

Men don't want fat women for relationships. And only some men are legitimately sexually attracted to fat women; it's a real fetish for a few men. I mean FAT women. Not curvy, not overweight, not a few extra pounds. FAT.

For most men, fat women are the women you use sexually when you have to slum it or you can't get anyone else.

AstuteBlackMan · 2017-12-27T17:39:54+00:00

The reason men don't date fat women OR why women don't date fat men is because lack of proper health is an indication of lack of discipline and lack of self control. Why would someone date someone who can't even take care of themselves?

If someone can't even control their weight at a young age 20s-30s(kinda understand if you're pushing 40 at least) then why would someone want to date you?

Nu_Guy · 2017-12-27T22:22:59+00:00

I agree with you, but will add that it is mostly in cultures where the girls look best skinny. Like some white girls and asian girls.

This rule does not apply with many hispanic or black cultures as they enjoy thick women

oneprettycoolcat · 2017-12-27T06:01:19+00:00

Well that or that fat women like all women have insanely overinflated standards nowadays because they can get pumped and dumped by every Chad in a 50 mile radius.

SmeggingRight · 2017-12-27T12:24:46+00:00

Of course it's societal pressure. The classic old paintings don't lie. Fatter women used to be held up as a standard of attractiveness.

Men are sheep and so are women. These days, fat just looks unfit to us and therefore undesirable. All that's changed is how we view things.

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ayeayefitlike · 2017-12-27T08:19:13+00:00

Instead what men care about is how their friends will see them for dating one or bringing them home. They would be shamed and laughed at by many for doing this

This is pretty true, and it's not talked much about PPD.

Anyway I think OP's point makes sense if he's talking about chubby girls, not the landwhales everyone in this thread is picturing.

Chelseaqix · 2017-12-27T08:56:59+00:00

Most men don’t care at all if you want my opinion they’re more scared she’ll go from slightly overweight to completely letting herself go and repulsive especially if they had a child.

Edit.. i mean in the just crossed from “normal” to “overweight” BMI not like in the obese column.

despisedlove2 · 2017-12-27T12:37:17+00:00

Nonsense.

There is a difference between womanly curves, and just obesity.

I have always been a loner, so I don't give a damn about what others think of my choices. Obesity is never attractive.

wtknight · 2017-12-27T15:09:40+00:00

What is and is not acceptable to society makes up a large part of attraction to begin with. Attraction does not exist in some kind of biological vacuum.

With that being said, I think that men have a wide variety of body types that they can potentially be attracted to, and personal psychology also plays a part in attraction. Some men are attracted to overweight women and not ashamed about it. Some men are potentially attracted to overweight women and are ashamed about it because of what their peers would think. And, some men just aren't attracted to overweight women and would not be even if almost every woman in the world were overweight. I don't think that any generalizations about men's tastes in this sense can be made.

blackedoutfast · 2017-12-27T16:25:59+00:00

lol no.

there is a range of what is attractive, but the thicker end of that range would still not be considered fat at all by normal western standards.

if you want to see examples of the body types that are most attractive to most men, look at the VS angels or sports illustrated swimsuit models (but not the newest ones where they started including fat-sized models for PC virtue-signalling purposes)

every self-proclaimed chubby chaser i've ever met was really just a low SMV failure who couldn't do any better. they were trying to convince themselves and everyone else that that's what they wanted, but it was really just because they didn't want to face the fact that they couldn't get any girls who were actually attractive.

decoy88 · 2017-12-27T17:01:03+00:00

This has been my experience. There's guys that will fuck fatties and justify to their friends they did it because they are "an easy lay" then LTR a skinny chick, barely fuck her and then maybe cheat with a fat girl.

This is absolutely a thing. Guys into fat girls are not in small numbers.

EDIT: tbf I'm referring to the UK's definition of fat and not the US. OP, can you give us an image or something for reference? 'Fat' and the level of fat can be very subjective

InformalCriticism · 2017-12-27T17:51:11+00:00

I've accidentally shamed a (fat) friend of mine for liking a fat girl. I immediately regretted my mistake, because I didn't understand the conversation.

He was like, "hey, so, you know [fat girl]?" and I said, "oh yeah, the fat girl?" And the look on his face made me say oh, shit, oh shit, and all my backtracking couldn't bring it back around, damage done. The social pressure is real, but it's case by case. He obviously didn't mind bringing it up, but I accidentally shut him down.

Some men have shitty friends (like me), and shitty people are everywhere, so you're right, but not for the reasons you think you are.

dicklord_airplane · 2017-12-28T00:29:47+00:00

No, I have never fantasized about fat women. No matter how much your try to portray fat women as attractive, i will never feel that way about women. Their only redeeming qualities are their huge titties and baking skills, but thats not enough to make up for their repuslive bodies.

Sorry to burst your bubble. I suggest you drop this hypothesis because its just dead wrong. Listen to what men tell you and BELIEVE THEM.

winterrider · 2017-12-28T02:51:05+00:00

No this is definitely not the case. Nobody cares if a woman is like 10 pounds overweight but if a woman is 100 or more pounds overweight this is unsightly and unattractive in my book. No matter what society says or doesn't this is not attractive.

Niikopol · 2017-12-28T15:12:31+00:00

Instead what men care about is how their friends will see them for dating one or bringing them home. They would be shamed and laughed at by many for doing this

Some do. But in those cases its bit pathetic. You don't date someone for that will please your surrounding or make them jelly. At least majority of people don't.

Lots of men date fat women, I know number of guys who are more attracted to them than to skinny (in their words, its more there to grab and that they don't find skinny women attractive)

But if fat woman tries to say to herself that reason she doesn't get dates is social pressure on guy, well I have a bridge to sell her. It may be that she has a shitty personality. Or that she is unattractive. Or both. But not social pressure on guys, there will always be in a group at least a couple who like that.

Also, there are level to fatness. There are chubby, most guys don't take issues with that, and levels go all the way to beached whale level. Where guys draw line differs.

[deleted] · 2017-12-28T17:21:37+00:00

I think it's the likelihood that between her ass cheeks and thighs, the skin is gross and unappealing looking. After like, high school, I have never known a man to be ashamed of being with a heavy woman, unless that woman was sloppy and very likely and evidently fit into the category of, "gross sex skin." Heavy women with nice skin are still trophied around in every circle I've ever been around.

RooseChange · 2017-12-29T22:24:51+00:00

I know this post is two days old and downvoted into oblivion, but I felt compelled to respond to your insanity anyway.

No way in hell does social pressure have anything to do with it. Unless you're an extreme outlier (which you seem to be), no guy is going to prefer a fat woman over an average one. If anything, there's more shame brought down on guys who believe in "no fat chicks" than there is for dating a fat chick. Guys rib on each other for everything, including just normal sexual preferences.

At first I thought you were just talking about maybe 15 pounds overweight until I saw some of the pictures elsewhere in this thread. No, you're nuts. It might happen rarely, but it's definitely not "the main thing keeping men from dating fat women."

In fact I would go further in saying that every heterosexual man has fantasized about one at least several times in their life.

Lol. Maybe some dudes fall for a fat girl in spite of her weight, but I guarantee they wish she was thinner. How many marriages have ended due to the woman putting on weight? Yet I've never heard of marital stress caused by a fat woman losing weight. Of the two obese wife/thin husband marriages I know of, one ended due to his infidelity and in the other the husband has spent years trying to get his wife to eat right and be more active. He married her despite her weight, not because of it.

I'm not trying to be mean to any fat women out there. I wish everyone could be happy. But considering the laundry list of requirements that women have for men (including not being fat), I think we're allowed to have this one.

Look, if you like fat chicks then you don't need to rationalize it to anyone. Contrary to what you seem to think, no one cares.

Blackhawktestpiot · 2018-01-31T00:18:42+00:00

Not me, I can’t stand fat people. Of course my career made me work out and take fitness tests. Fat people are low energy and have serious DNA problems. I might ride a fatty out of sympathy but I never bring one home to MaMa.

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