What does the top 20% of men think about gender politics?

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2017-10-23T13:57:29+00:00

Liberal Feminism is useful in marketing, that's why it has taken off.

FairlyNaive · 2017-10-23T14:04:50+00:00

If you are talking strictly top 20% smp, then:
Naturals have a surprisingly even spread between what could be deacribed as feminist positions and narcissistic views like "everyone except me is subhuman, irrelevant of their gender"
Self made guys tend to be sexist af.

Top 20% moneywise range between tradcons and narcissists, sometimes paying lipservice to feminist or benevolent sexist talking points.
Top 20% in politics are narcissist to the core, but will not admit it under the gunpoint.
If you are looking for feminist viewpoints you need to be searching in either arts or academia.

2017-10-23T14:09:56+00:00

They don’t. They’re just happy.

prodigy2throw · 2017-10-23T14:34:52+00:00

The majority of the top men are just living life. Truth is, none of this shit is of huge interest to most people. We’re just the few weirdos that are either fascinated by this stuff or need to go really in depth on topics to internalize them.

theiamsamurai · 2017-10-23T14:00:48+00:00

Players don't care about them, aside from putting down men below them to keep themselves perceived to be in the top 20%. They're not feminist, but they'll confidently say they're feminist while acting aloof and borderline misogynistic if they think it will get them laid.

sublimemongrel · 2017-10-23T13:58:22+00:00

Absolutely less likely, without question. Am top 20% myself, know and am friends with plenty of other top 20% men. holding masculine views on issues is pretty common, and makes sense if you think about it.

Traditional gender norms benefit the top SMV men and women. Feminism is a power play, trying to reward women for masculine traits and sometimes penalize them for feminine traits. Who stands to benefit the most from this? Physically unattractive but capable women. Top men usually don't need to cater to this class. Below average/weak men however are more likely to take these view points as it penalizes masculinity, strength, decisiveness, etc.

Top men either: A: don't care or think about it too much B: pay it lip service but really don't care at all (see this in Hollywood types, or in any Pc work environment) Or C: actively think it's bullshit.

Mr_Smoogs · 2017-10-23T13:58:49+00:00

In my experience, they pay lip service if it gets them laid but are mostly ambivalent or indifferent.

funny_lyfe · 2017-10-23T14:25:31+00:00

Top 20% here. Most of my peers don't really give a damn about gender politics. I mean outside of me hanging out here every now and then I don't give much of a damn either.

Women will tell me they are a feminist and still date me even though I don't treat them like equals. I have straight out told them "I don't like feminists", and they don't care.

There are also feminist top 20% males, and extremely misogynistic ones (because women treat them like objects). It's not like nature looks at your parents political affiliation before giving you the genetic lottery. I mean yes you have to keep in shape, and eat right, and not be a slob but plenty of men do that are just barely average.

InformalCriticism · 2017-10-23T14:41:08+00:00

I don't think I ever made the top 20% cut while I was beta, but some do. And unless you are directly confronted with the horrors of 3rd Wave Feminism backed by government law, you will brush it off and carry on with your life as something that is either untrue (because it is so ridiculous), or unimportant, because it has nothing to do with your daily life.

2017-10-23T15:06:09+00:00

The top 20% of men are probably too busy getting their dick wet to contemplate gender politics.

EliteSpartanRanger · 2017-10-23T16:10:50+00:00

I don't think they even notice this kind of stuff...

Do you think they're more or less likely to hold feminist viewpoints than the 80% of supposed "beta" men?

I think there are more extremes. Some players are really sexist and some are sex-pos feminists.

2017-10-23T21:33:40+00:00

I'm undoubtedly not in the top 20%, so I can't comment.

DashneDK2 · 2017-10-24T03:10:49+00:00

There are no such thing as the top 20% of men. That's female solipsism. There are top 20% in specific areas. All men can be leaders in one place, but they'll not be leaders in the rest of life. A guy can be top 20% in his chosen career, but he'll still be an average guy in the gym, or when his car is broken and he needs to go to the mechanic, or when he tries to take up surfing, or whatever. Or he can be a surfer hero on the beach, but still has to work 9-5 at 7/11 and take shit from stupid fat bitches who come in to buy their 5 breakfast donuts. I used to work at a big multinational corporation with a very nice lunch arrangement and very nice gym. There was this big black dude who worked in the kitchen. He wasn't even a cook or anything, just a cleaner. He'd sir me this and sir me that. But in the gym he called no man sir, for he was the king there and other men came to him for advice. I earned in the top 5% of the company, he could bench press in the 5%. Who was top-20%?

Also, no man is born top 20% in anything. Girls with the right genes can be born top 20%. Men have to work for it.

-AveMaria- · 2017-10-24T19:27:24+00:00

My fiancé (top 20% naturally, yay for hypergamy!) hardly ever talks about gender politics. I'm sure he barely ever thinks about it. If you prod him for his views, he's pretty against feminism. But he just thinks they are idiots, he doesn't harbor bitterness or hatred towards them. Overall I guess most top 20% men barely think about it.

boundarychimps · 2017-10-23T14:12:11+00:00

Assuming I'm in that top 20% - stable job, good income, occasional positive comments about looks - I think it's mostly pretty stupid. But then some news story comes out, and I think "wtf people actually do that".

But also, stuff like trashing people for #notallmen mostly makes me think how different the reactions might be if people were arguing over race instead. Does me (as a guy) not being a rapist mean I'm "one of the good ones", just like any colored folks that a racist knows personally are?

says_harsh_things · 2017-10-23T14:12:42+00:00

Mostly, I don't think about it because I don't have to.

I don't need to virtue signal that I'm a 'good boy' and post about how Im going to try REALLY HARD not to make women uncomfortable because I don't anyway.

No woman ever asks me what I think about rape culture, or manspreading, or mansplaining, or any of that nonsense, although part of that may be that your typical blue-haired, nose-ringed liberal college girl tends to avoid me in the first place. So, maybe self-segregation?

That said, I am absolutely in support of equal opportunity for women, but not necessarily equal outcome. Theres nothing someone 'shouldn't' do just because they are a woman.

2017-10-23T14:40:17+00:00

They're probably more likely to hold feminist views because they would never experience the downside of any of them. Since women are readily dropping on their knees to suck their dicks anyway, they never really earn their ire or get on their bad side.

It's like a rich person who fully supports basic universal income. Sure, what do they care?

darla10 · 2017-10-23T15:23:56+00:00

They think it's cute. And they do have a protective masculine impulse and sincerely want women to feel 'safe' but they don't really give a shit about gender politics. They're too busy being in charge. Ha.

CasinoLucky · 2017-10-23T13:57:29+00:00

I think most of them dont really care much - it is not their problem nor does it cause them problems.

But the ones who do, more likely to be in favour of feminism I would argue. They never had problems getting girls and therefore dont carry the anger against feminism nor women in general.

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2017-10-23T14:25:54+00:00

They don't

couldbemage · 2017-10-23T17:38:44+00:00

I am very liberal in some ways, but not a feminist. I'm dating one, and she has a whole bunch of OkCupid answers that are very SJW. My answers to those are what she listed as unacceptable, but I'm an exception. Apparently.

But others I know? They're all over the place. At least based on actions, and what they say. I have friends on both sides that are very successful with women. Full on SJWs as well as gun nut survivalists.

2017-10-23T19:48:21+00:00

I'm pretty sure they invented these slave ideologies

Slaves shall serve

2017-10-24T00:23:20+00:00

They couldn't care. They can say anything and still get laid. I don't think it affects whether they're feminist or not. Either way, they're getting laid.

washington_breadstix · 2017-10-24T00:57:32+00:00

Top 20% of men in terms of what?

If you're talking about looks, then I would guess that most of them tend to lean more feminist/blue pill because their looks will get them laid despite the behaviors so they never need to correct those behaviors to get sexual attention from women.

1UPZ_ · 2017-10-24T03:43:22+00:00

Top 20% of what?

HighResolutionSleep · 2017-10-24T05:13:47+00:00

It seems like most men here think they are top 20%, and I guess I do too. I'm probably not that far into the top 20% bracket. I do have a nice face and am relatively fit with distinctly masculine characteristics, and just about the only "flaw" that I have is that my hairline has peeled back a bit. Considering that I'll soon have a career with starting income well into the six figures with plenty of room for growth, I think that owning my own house in my mid twenties will put me up there if I'm not already.

I might be anomalous, but I think about gender politics a lot and it's the greatest source of suffering in my life. Perhaps it's because I'm distinctly romantically inclined and have been so since the onset of puberty, with no interest in promiscuity ever experienced, that learning the depth and breadth of women's indifference to men's sacrifices and contributions to society and contempt for our pain and distress, that it is so exquisitely painful that it made me wish I never sought the truth.

I think that MGTOW and such is a rational response to the callous disposition of modern women. They are undeserving of men's tender and loving side.

mgtownigga · 2017-10-24T11:35:30+00:00

the truth is that it doesnt really matter what beliefs they hold, because they're unlikely to be penalized too harshly for it. Like, short of being an extremist or a literal nazi, a top 20 percenter can pretty hold whatever viewpoints they fucking want and most women will overlook it at best, change their actual viewpoints to conform to their man at worst. Seen it a million times

czerdec · 2017-10-24T23:02:56+00:00

The top 20% love affirmative action for less talented people because they're the weakest rivals. So they're happy to work in a subordinate role to a clueless person who's given a role in order to appease a demographic. A clueless manager is good if they understand their limitations. If the manager is like Trump, he'll just haul ass to another great job.

I'm confining myself to the richest 20%.

If we mean the most sexually successful 20%, that's just genes. What they think is immaterial. Nobody has ever laid a thousand women because of what he thinks, if it happens, it's because of what you are.

2017-10-23T21:03:14+00:00

They don't have to care because women will let them do whatever they want. They just have to say "I'm a feminist" and then they're home free.

2017-10-23T15:38:29+00:00

According to various on both sides, my success on tinder qualifies me as part of the top 20%...I don't give a shit about feminist view points and am happy to let beta men continue to fuck up.

2017-10-23T16:12:45+00:00

With the risk of sounding arrogant, i'd put myself in the top 20%. Judging by my sexual history, i'd say it's warranted.

I am interested in Gender Politics, but try to mostly keep it at arms length. Feminists annoy me and RedPillers often make me cringe. I do pay more attention to it nowadays, even though it's mostly shitposting, but back when i was sleeping around i hardly cared at all and laughed openly at redpillers.

I'm pretty certain than the top 20% are far less likely to be feminists. Think of all the players and successful men you've met in your life. How many of them has fallen under the "Progressive man in contact with his feminine side?"

2017-10-23T16:26:42+00:00

I'm in the top 20% of inshells, people should listen to me whenever I start asking for chicken roasties

2017-10-23T16:59:39+00:00

Buddy of mine, perfect example of a natural.

Because of OP Honour, he treats female subordinates as if they were communicable diseases. So they don't look into it too hard, they simply react to the current environment.

In this case, by detaching, and holding to the women in their life who don't do that dumb shit

wtknight · 2017-10-23T18:54:00+00:00

Some of them are probably affected by feminism if they miss out on a promotion because of feminism or if they don't get to see their kids as much as they want after a failed marriage because of feminism, some are likely not affected at all. I think it varies based upon each guy's individual experience and whether a guy or alpha or beta has nothing to do with it. Similarly, there are plenty of beta guys who are angry about being relatively sexually unsuccessful compared to an alpha guy, and there are plenty of beta guys who are happy with the quality relationships and sexual encounters that they have been in and that they continue to have, even if that number is relatively small compared to an alpha.

Entropy-7 · 2017-10-23T18:56:18+00:00

Players DNGAF. The politically inclined will repeat the feminist rhetoric ad nauseaum until molesting their intern or babysitter (Democrat gets a pass, Republican is hounded out of office).

More or less regular guys who are top whatever% know feminism is largely bullshit.

Merger-Arbitrage · 2017-10-23T14:01:35+00:00

I suppose I do alright (I'm 29, currently married)... but additionally I do get double takes, smiles from passing women on the street with fairly high frequency,women regularly begin conversations with me in various nightlife venues if I'm out and about solo, and other similar attention. Saturday night some ~40 year old who was with her husband started blatantly hitting on me, tried hooking me up with her sister (not present) and suggested we get together sometime soon while rubbing up against me. You can be the judge on whether that qualifies for "top 20%" or not. If you deem me to be, read on what I think about gender politics:

Not much. I don't think about it.

Temperfuelmma · 2017-10-23T14:21:26+00:00

I'm definitely top 20% if not even higher. I don't live in a liberal infected feminist region but I have been seeing some of the bullshit creeping in slowly. I do think about this shit, mostly because I'm scared of this bullshit infecting my community, rupturing families, causing an epidemic of sluts/single mothers, that sort of thing. I don't speak about this with anyone. The more you talk about them the more credit you give them. Just mocking, shaming or just laughing at them will cool things down.

Title	What does the top 20% of men think about gender politics?
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