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Man wants new GF to foot half the bill for him and his two kids. Throw the whole man away

YesNoMaybe87

May 3, 2020
147 upvotes
/r/FemaleDatingStrategy

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She claims he’s her “twin flame”. No. Dump him. He’s taking advantage of you.

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Title Man wants new GF to foot half the bill for him and his two kids. Throw the whole man away
Author

YesNoMaybe87

Upvotes 147
Comments 67
Date May 3, 2020 4:31 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/gckl5x/man_wants_new_gf_to_foot_half_the_bill_for_him/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/man-wants-new-gf-to-foot-half-the-bill-for-him-and.677054
https://theredarchive.com/post/677054
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Comments

[–]timeknifeFDS Newbie135 points136 points137 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

This woman’s self esteem is in the toilet.

“Looking for a man’s opinion” because she can’t trust her own judgement any more

“Twin Flame” she’s been brainwashed into thinking this soul sucker is her soul mate

[–]ScrappleSandwichesFDS Newbie65 points66 points67 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I like how his horrible personality is his ex-wife’s fault because she had the audacity to stay home and raise his children

[–]timeknifeFDS Newbie21 points22 points23 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Right?! She’s been conditioned so much by society and this man to see herself as a tool to be used.

She has no ability to put herself in another woman’s shoes it’s ridiculous

[–]ScrappleSandwichesFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s so sad.

[–]detectivejuiceeFDS Newbie58 points59 points60 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

“I’d really like that one perspective that would make me feel better about doing the wrong thing because these 126 other perspectives don’t make me feel good about myself”

[–]Meccha_me_2FDS Newbie46 points47 points48 points 6 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

I can’t believe she was asking female commenters who gave well thought out opinions if their freaking “husbands were around” as if a woman’s perspective isn’t enough. That’s something a ZVM would say.

She freaking out-pickmeisha’d herself. She’s come full circle now. I’m distraught.

[–]circescircusRuthless Strategist38 points39 points40 points 6 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

That got me distraught too. She is so vile and so disrespectful. People wrote her thoughtful, informative supportive comments, and she shamelessly responds with "Would you mind asking your husband or boyfriend for his opinion?" She is seriously awful. Maybe she can't see how awful her partner is because she herself is filled with rot? Not as much as him, but it's there, and it shows.

Also, did y'all catch this... "And it is more complicated. We were coworkers and he was still married when we met. We didn’t cheat but he did leave to start a relationship with me." Lol sure, he didn't cheat while still married. He just left his marriage to start a relationship with you. /s I love how she phrased that. Typical side chick. She's the main chick now but still has a side chick mentality.

[–]giteporFDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I felt exactly the same way reading her posts. I went from "oh hell no" to "this woman is getting exactly what she deserves".

Honestly we need to stop pretending every woman is a victim. She's not innocent here and this is the karma she gets for getting with a married man! I'd be nicer if she were receptive to feedback but jfc asking thoughtful women who commented what their husbands think instead... infuriating. I hope he uses this fool for every penny, lol.

[–]circescircusRuthless Strategist9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

She reminds me of an old childhood friend I had. We reconnected after many years, she started opening up to me. She was having an affair with a married co-worker. She had zero empathy for his wife, rationalized what she was doing in really fucked up ways. I later came to discover that she had issues with empathy in general, and was completely in denial about her abusive upbringing. I also learned how manipulative, selfish and self-centered she was. She would call me and pick my brains talking about asinine destructive shit for hours. I think she was into her old ugly sociopathic co-worker because they vibed, just like this woman vibes with her sociopathic partner. Birds of a feather. I couldn't deal anymore and told her I can't continue this friendship. It was sad and I didn't want it to have to come to that, but it is what it is.

[–]FluffandRaincloudsFDS Disciple13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't think she is awful. I think she was fed the lie that when women friends are too "uppity" they become "too hard" on your significant other and undermine the relationship. Ask me how I know. I'm hoping these comments bring her to the light... When her father, mother, relative, religion, whoever/whatever taught her that, she embodied pickme/patriarchy handmaiden beliefs in which she NEEDS "a guy's perspective." I would wager she thinks, if she finds some man, any man, who agrees with the women, maybe it IS true her SO is treating her badly and the women commenters aren't feeding her uppity girl-power BS.

Patriarchy is disgusting and I feel so bad for her.

[–]circescircusRuthless Strategist17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I felt bad for her when I initially read her post, but my empathy pretty much disappeared after I read her comments. She's unbelievable.

[–]FluffandRaincloudsFDS Disciple4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's understandable you felt burnt out. We did what we could, and ultimately it is her decision. I say it with love and hope she chooses better (and joins us!).

Just saw your edit. An emotional affair seemed to be part of it... eek!

[–]circescircusRuthless Strategist13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I generally have empathy for pickmeishas and women being exploited by men, but she is the type of enabler that I have limited empathy for. I know she has problems and would probably choose something better if it were as easy as snapping her fingers, but her level of denial, mental gymnastics, etc is dangerous because those are the types of women who let men steamroll other women and abuse children, just for a little bit of attention and affection.

She already showed a bit of that, by responding to women's thoughtful comments with "I was hoping men would respond" and "We didn’t cheat but he did leave to start a relationship with me". I just can't.

But yeah, I understand why you feel bad for her. I just can't deal with that level of pickme, it totally burns me out, I have no patience for people that committed to mindfucking themselves.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's straight up being dismissive of herself (& all of the other women who are attempting to give her much-needed & valuable advice). What difference does it make if a man tells you the same damn advice that all of these women are telling you? It's ludicrous! Honestly she sounds brain-washed to me & after reading most of her replies; she's not being very receptive at all. She dug herself into this hole; it's ultimately her decision to dig herself back out.

[–]supersmallfeetFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They started their relationship with an emotional affair while he was still married. So they're both trash, quite frankly. After reading that, she deserves him.

[–]Davina33FDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I never saw that bit! That's disgusting!

[–]timeknifeFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She was a side chick too? This story really has it all, smh.

All she needs is a therapist to work through her Not-like-other-girls-itis.

[–]AdawritesrulesFDS Disciple6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“Out-pickmeisha’d”😂 love it. Imma be using that

[–]NottheprobFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

SHE ASKED ME THAT! I about died.

[–]YesNoMaybe87FDS Newbie[S] 30 points31 points32 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I cannot tell you how times I hear this. “He’s my soulmate. My twin flame. It’s complicated but I love him!” Bitch that’s not love. That’s trauma bonding. If it’s that hard, get out. You shouldn’t feel bad about yourself and cry daily.

[–]QueenLatifaLaBiggestFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or trust the opinions of the other women. She keeps asking for the male opinions. Like what? Sis please😭

[–]FluffandRaincloudsFDS Disciple8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you know a lot of men on Reddit would tell her to "communicate" and use Evo-psych bullshit to justify his manipulative, selfish, narcisstiic behavior. Or, maybe worse, "with feminisim ThIs Is WhAt u WaNtEd!!1!"

[–]level_up_alwaysFDS Disciple100 points101 points102 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

i used to read that subreddit but it got too painful. so many women sacrificing their entire existence for some other woman's kids and you never see men asking the same questions. hard pass.

[–]VikingPugFDS Apprentice33 points34 points35 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. I was banned from that sub for telling it like it is. They don’t appreciate anything other than, bUT haVE You TAlkeD to Him??

Seriously the abuse and high conflict exes, I don’t know why anyone would want to chose that life.

[–]rinabeanFDS Disciple10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not for the kids it's for the man. If they cared about the kids even the ones who are nice to them would not be aiding and abetting their shitty fathers the way they do

[–]valsavanaFDS Newbie39 points40 points41 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is the exact kind of guy that, if the worst happens in 10-15 years and she becomes disabled or has cancer or whatever, will destroy her & her self-worth mentally and emotionally before trading her in for a "newer model"

[–]rinabeanFDS Disciple23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From her comments it sounds like he already did this to his first wife for the sin of having his kids. Leopards don't change their spots! I hope writing all this down helps her see it

[+][deleted] 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]ScrappleSandwichesFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t move to Ohio for 1984 Duran Duran

[–]mightbethrowawayyyFDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

What does twin flame even mean and how is it different from soul mate

Truly don’t understand 😂

[–]ScrappleSandwichesFDS Newbie48 points49 points50 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It means he’s a charming narcissist who gets to abuse her at will because they’re “meant to be”

[–]cherrybombfieldFDS Newbie20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Basically it is how pickmeisha are justifying staying in abusive dysfunctional relationships- he's my twin flame. It doesn't matter how bad it is bc they are TF's and therefore meant to be. It is really lame.

[–]glittersparklesglitzFDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure but I've seen it used in the context of a cult and in the context of a narcissist relationship 🤷‍♀️

[–]level_up_alwaysFDS Disciple6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

/r/twinflames

[–]glittersparklesglitzFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

My level of confusion has worsened...

[–]level_up_alwaysFDS Disciple13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

basically it's a cover for being triggered/trauma bonded/codependent. i got into spiritual stuff so got into it for a while wanting to understand. this video is long but i like the perspective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2da2CQEyy0 basically everyone is your twin flame because it forces you to learn and grow and we ultimately need to balance the masculine/feminine energies within OURSELVES not externally

[–]SarcasmSlideFDS Disciple2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Jeez. Everyone in that sub listens to way too much Nine Inch Nails.

[–]level_up_alwaysFDS Disciple0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

😂😂😂

[–]Milobear27FDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was more committed to him than he is to me

Boy 👋🏽

[–]YesNoMaybe87FDS Newbie[S] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This never ends well

[–]nosynobodyFDS Newbie20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is just sad. I think am gonna stop trying to date after 32, all these men sound absolutely awful. I think I would rather be single than end up with someone like this

[–]lilitha134Pickmeisha™️20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Reading her comments is so sad, she is desperately trying to find someone justifying his behavior because she realizes what kind of asshole he is but for some reason still wants to be with him...

[–]ny-ladyFDS Apprentice5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seriously!!

Some of the stuff I read here makes my skin crawl...

[–]Davina33FDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's child free with a good income and she settles for that arsehole? She really needs a brain transplant for considering his shitty offer. This is one reason why as a fellow child free woman I don't date men with kids.

[–]_boring_daven_FDS Newbie32 points33 points34 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I say anyone who doesn’t want to split things proportional to income can kick rocks. Sure, it’s not “equal” but it’s fair. Like life.

It deeply saddens me that she doesn’t realize how shitty he is.

[–]glittersparklesglitzFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm gonna disagree and say that life isn't fair lol

[–]even_thrillerFDS Apprentice15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Omg all the women in that sub know what’s up and said it’s time to find a new man yet she wants a males opinion??? She’s so brainwashed.

[–]YesNoMaybe87FDS Newbie[S] 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I’d like to use the “she’s young and dumb” excuse but.... she’s 31

[–]even_thrillerFDS Apprentice5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She’s my age??? Yikes. Sis needs an intervention.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’ve noticed that so many times on the relationships sub. A woman will post a problem that is clearly “he’s a POS” and a hundred women will say “he does not care about you, this is unhealthy, you deserve better” and two men will say “but did you tell him clearly not to shit on the coffee table, you are high maintenance, he is not a mind reader” and the OP will fall all over herself to thank him for his “rational and logical” advice.

[–]ShieldMaidenLagerthaFDS Apprentice14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Omg...and moving out of state...😱

[–]YesNoMaybe87FDS Newbie[S] 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It would be a hard no to moving in together locally. No way would I move states for a piece of trash like this. He’ll dump her the first time something better comes along.

[–]ScrappleSandwichesFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah; he’ll use her for her money and cheat behind her back

[–]ShieldMaidenLagerthaFDS Apprentice0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

100%!

[–]SeraphinxFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm so sad and angry that this successful independent woman is even considering this, let alone actively fighting against all the women telling her how wrong this is.

I'd kill to be earning that kind of money, I'd never suffer than kind of bullshit. The only reason I've ever lived with men was to share / reduce expenses.

[–]BerryCocoLoveFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That thread read like narcissistic abuse on top of her already being a pickmeisha.

Men like him will hook into anyone but they especially sink their teeth into someone who is weak-willed and lacking in self love.

The part that really bothered me was the emotional blackmail, like how his daughter can’t stand the OP but yet he doesn’t do anything to remedy the situation.

After I learned about narcissism, I run at the sight of men who refuse to take responsibility for their own actions or shift the blame.

[–]Davina33FDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was raised by a narcissistic mother so I saw that guy in that post for what he is. He is a user and abuser, I really hope the OP sees sense.

[–]ItsFreezenFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She's a glutton for punishment.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was just thinking "gawd damn, some people just WANT to be miserable. "

[–]circescircusRuthless Strategist6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, is this a new species of pickmeisha? She needs to wake up and run.

What a disgrace of a man, preying on some desperate woman, so he can avoid providing for his own children.

I got sick reading that post. Sounds like a typical narcissist/codependent relationship. The "twin flame" thing cements that. Codependent enabler types love trying to rationalize their sick twisted abusive relationships with "twin flame" bullshit.

[–]MagnoliaMirageFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why I don't like the twin flame thing. People always get confused and believe that means putting up with every shitty thing someone does.🤦‍♂️

[–]n_AMALTFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the advice a MAN gave her in a now deleted thread.

My view 50/50 is always the best way to do things.

I know this is me and not everyone. I was in relationships where it wasn't 50/50. And eventually i start to resent them because i had to pay more.

Its not his fault that you make less then him. And you chose him even tho he has kids. Moving in together makes them your responsibility also.

Keep trying to talk with him. Make your points. And maybe he will cave.

Good luck.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Advice/comments/gc6s0k/z/fp9l28m

[–]YesNoMaybe87FDS Newbie[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ahhh noooooo. I hate all of this 🤦‍♀️

[–]StupidHappyPancakesFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God, reading all that was nauseating. I just can't understand this woman at all. I mean, I put up with a terrible marriage to an abusive narcissist, but I also was disabled, had no way to support myself, and had no family to turn to. If I had been able-bodied, self-sufficient, and pulling in six figures...I damn well would have walked the fuck right out the first time he was abusive. And my self-esteem was shit at the time and I still would have given anything to be on my own!

The cherry on top was at the end when she admitted to wanting to have kids with this abusive asshole, and he's already basically told her no, so she's trying to convince herself that she doesn't necessarily want kids either.

So she has to live in a state she hates which may also well mean a pay cut, without being married, paying a ludicrously disproportionate amount of the bills, taking care of his kids who hate her while he goes climbing mountains, she isn't allowed to want a wedding or an engagement ring, he'd rather get a shittier job just to spite her rather than paying for his own damn kids, he demeans her job, and she can't even have her own KIDS with him! What the everloving bloody hell is the POINT of this guy!?

She definitely lost my sympathy with her shitty misogyny, though, and I'm not a fan of women who have affairs with married men and then expect a happy ending. Do you notice that she has absolutely NO IDEA why the kids don't like her? Like they aren't fully aware that this is the homewrecker who broke their mom and dad up. 🙄

[–]idiosyncraticg1FDS Disciple3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least the comments are sane.

It shouldn’t even be a question that he pays more because he has not one, but two kids. That’s a higher electricity bill, larger grocery bills, more water used.

[–]ErikaNaumannFDS Apprentice1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She is the pickmeisha queen. Every single comment is telling her to get away from this man, and she just keeps defending him.

She's a lost cause. Some people only learn from their mistakes. Others never learn at all. In 10 years she will be complaining about how life is unfair.

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