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[–][deleted] 548 points549 points550 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
According to them, women have it so easy and even ugly women can date. However, they don’t wanna date them, somebody else should. Makes perfect sense!
[–][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly I think these type of idiots really believe if a girl has one thing to make her "unattractive" he more attractive than her. Why do fat men think they deserve a "beautiful" girlfriend but fat women ("attractive" and "unattractive") men think fat women don't deserve a handsome partner.? It mind boggles me there so many overweight women I think that are cute, pretty and beautiful in their own way but somehow these slugs think they better then these women. Some men need a reality check. I love how men ignore that women might have more options then them. They call it unfair when unattractive and attractive women have more options. Seriously? they just think looks play a role but ignore how shitty their personalities are usually are.
[–][deleted] 40 points41 points42 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"someone else should" lol. Exactly
[–]Petite_55Pickmeisha™️321 points322 points323 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LMAO that's gold! They whine about women being shallow/hypergamious/etc. all the time, but they blissfully ignore the fact that even the ugliest men lust after the hottest women. Zero self-awareness.
[–]dkarmFDS Newbie319 points320 points321 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I have a male acquaintance like this. He’s super short, unattractive, and whiny. And yet he always crushes on the hot women a lot younger than him, then complains about how no one ever likes him. Once an actually cute woman his age had a crush on him and wanted to go out, and not only did he reject her, he was mean to her about it. Then went right back to complaining.
[–]TheWarmestHugzFDS Newbie183 points184 points185 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wow ew, poor girl, he doesn’t deserve her at all. I hope she’s found someone much better.
[–]dkarmFDS Newbie32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do too. She was really nice and was really into him.
[–]NaturalRattleFDS Newbie140 points141 points142 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I can't decide if these kinds of men have just been so spoiled growing up that they're this deluded into thinking they truly deserve a Margot Robbie type when they look like a poor man's Seth Rogen with a crappy personality to boot, or if they're just deeply closeted and this is some kind of weird projection so as not to blow their cover ("It's not that I don't want women, it's that women don't want ME!").
I think it's both. But either way...it really needs to stop.
[–]ZeroNineOhNineFDS Newbie40 points41 points42 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Tbh I think a lot of men grow up with unrealistic expectations of what it's like to actually have to work for something, regarding seeking and maintaining relationships.
I was discussing this with my gf. A mutual acquaintance of mine is her husband (they are separated). Since before he was born, his family was prepping and planning his future, college, etc. Since him and her have began separation, hes been complaining that its sooo hard to find someone to date, but he also doesnt have any friends, and outright ignores mine and my gfs advice when it comes to social interaction. Men are more valued by their families before they even exist, and then they get into the "real world" and it confuses them, but to admit they arent as special as they've been told for decades is too painful for a lot of them.
They're born and everyones telling them how special and great they are from the get-go. If not outright telling them, they're getting special and preferential treatment. The girls are pushed to the wayside and trained in kitchen and family duties because "who cares about her future? Shes just gonna get married and have to take care of the house and kids anyway."
Then after being told and treated like they're special for decades, and having never done anything to stand out or be notable, they sit around and wonder why they cant compete with every other mediocre, entitled, over-egotisical guy looking for a mommy-replacement that makes their pee-pee feel good.
[–]dkarmFDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think I’m his case it’s “nice guy” syndrome. If you asked him if he’d date a women who was unattractive and complained all the time, he’d say no way, even though that’s him in a nutshell.
I do know what you’re saying though. Guys expecting things to be handed by them is why we end doing all the work while they lay there like lazy lions. Well did, before we started uniting on this sub!
[–]sometingwickedFDS Newbie173 points174 points175 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Too many people think they are just entitled to a relationship without considering what they actually have to offer another person.
Be the person you want to date. It’s not that complicated.
[–]jenneschguetFDS Newbie63 points64 points65 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s not a relationship they are after, though. They feel entitled to a woman that acts like one in a porno, but on call...
[–]cirrus_cloudRuthless Strategist278 points279 points280 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
They always conflate our ability to attract sexual attention from men with the ability to have a real relationship with men.
We all know there’s a huge difference and that finding a high value partner is extremely challenging.
[–]NaturalRattleFDS Newbie144 points145 points146 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
This is what frustrates me to no end, especially when speaking to older generations about struggling with dating. I'm in no way glorifying past eras for women, they were rife with their own issues, but at the very least, casual sex was not really an option then. You basically had to commit to the woman to get anything sexual from her, so go figure - men committed with the utmost of ease. Not like today, though, when you're "lucky" to even get a mere girlfriend title, and if you do, it's hard as hell to find a guy who'll truly honor even that minor commitment by not constantly watching porn, paying way too much attention to Instagram models, having inappropriate female friendships, cheating outright, the list goes on.
Factor in the added bonus of people acting like you're insane or defective for not really wanting that dysfunction and you've got a true romantic dystopia. It's rough out here.
[–]notforGenpop11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If we all stop doing that then they won’t be able to get away with it. That’s why I love this sub and every coach preaching the truth. Men don’t deserve this ridiculous treatment.
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Again for the ladies in the back! 👏🏻👏🏻
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[–]coolestgirlyouevermeFDS Apprentice241 points242 points243 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Mgtows delight in the suffering of "ugly" women and harbor a sick revenge fantasy against "hot" women
[–]FDSFemmeFataleFDS Newbie173 points174 points175 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
You'd be surprised how many men hate beautiful women just for being pretty. I've had mediocre men literally treat me like trash because they wanted to feel like a big man who "defeated" or "humbled" the pretty girl somehow.
[–]Hazel-rah99FDS Newbie28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They hate pretty men, too. The insecurity is surreal.
[–]whatismedicineFDS Newbie20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This. When they inform you that you’re “stuck up” because you value yourself and have standards...gross. I don’t need to be more humble you trash bag. I’m allowed to think that the work and effort I put into myself is worth something.
[–]FDSFemmeFataleFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly. It takes work to be this awesome! These uncultured slugs out here know better than to try approaching with nothing more to offer than some substandard crap. Nah...you'd better be just as brilliant, engaged, and talented as I am, or keep it moving.
[–]whatismedicineFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yas queen!!!!
[–]RedPlanitFDS Newbie42 points43 points44 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is it. I had a guy who was always giving me shit at work. One day I confronted him and said something like “look, I don’t know which hot mean girl from high school I remind you of, but being an asshole to me isn’t going to fix the reasons why she rejected you.”
He tried to say something back but I just walked away. He left me alone after that so maybe I struck a nerve.
[–]Elegant-StopFDS Newbie30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. A number of men I encounter (and sometimes, though more rarely, women) think I must have been some queen bee in high school and they want to show me what the “real world” is like by bullying me as an adult. I’m going to use this line.
[–]DazzlingMolasses7FDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LMAO this is amazing
[–]DazzlingMolasses7FDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why you don’t date ugly men. They’re very bitter.
Not to say hot men are immune but they’re less likely to be bitter about a woman being attractive.
[–]ZeroNineOhNineFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Preach, girl. It is fucking pathetic.
[–]wazdalos2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This whole thing is sad as hell. I came across a place once here on reddit that calls shortcels that I couldn’t believe was real at first. Its short men who claim that there life is shitty because of that and that they are not able to have a relationship, etc. I feel for them one side, but then I see the kind of hatred going on there, especially against women, mostly attractive ones. Its so crazy. The memes I saw there were the worst Ive ever seen in my life. Its like a sad circlejerk, spreading misery and projecting hatred on everything. And I was like.. yea, no one will ever date you because youre kind of an hateful asshat AND youre short on top of that. And I was banned and cursed at instantly when I tried to carefully and respectfully point out the kind of hate, etc. Truely a sad place all around
[–]BovvsetteFDS Disciple81 points82 points83 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Definitely, they whine about and hate any woman, for being either too ”old” and ”ugly” or too picky, yet do zero work to make themselves seem like a prize. Basically no introspection or improval on their part, it's you who must accommodate them and their ridiculous fantasies at all times and drop your own standards for no reason. And when such mentality (obviously) fails them, they have the audacity to play the victim card and complain that the world isn't made of barely legal personal pornstar mommy-maids lusting after their useless asses. So stupid.
[–]FlowingnebulaFDS Newbie120 points121 points122 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How do they not realize what the problem is, they write huge essays and analysis but can't understand how ugly dudes only want hot young supermodels. They want women to compromise, drop all their standards yet none of them will compromise even a bit
[–]sangrenomadeFDS Newbie28 points29 points30 points 3 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I’ve had a couple of guys tell me that women don’t care about looks. Yes we do. They believe men are really visual so they can’t compromise on physical appearance but women can.
[–]Coppermonkey199 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly, I read this statement ALL THE TIME on social media.. And I'm thinking dude wake up. Why do you think women get crazy for hot lead actors or young girls fawn over boybands and eboys. It's because they're handsome. It's not rocket science, I don't understand why they don't get this in their head.
[–]FlowingnebulaFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do they not know that we also have eyes. At least we don't have unrealistic expectations like them
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[–]lillmamaFDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😂 truly
[–]pairo5FDS Newbie68 points69 points70 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
*chefs kiss*
[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also, they can't handle when women complain about dating, I literally had a man manexplain to me on r/dating I'm clearly going after hot attractive men and I need to low my expectation or settle. I brought up most of the guys I was talking about were only average or below. Then he had the nerve to bring up looks are subjective. Like what the fuck? so apparently my words are shit and not true when I said they not attractive enough but apparently clearly I must be only going after hot men and it's my fault? I block his stupid ass after because quite frankly I don't want to talk to someone who mouths off they know my situation when they don't even know what's happening in my life.I also love how just because of my weight I'm written off as unattractive to these men on reddit lmao thank god I am not dating these losers.
[–]CloacaDiddlerFDS Newbie59 points60 points61 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And I oop -
[–]FitncurlyFDS Apprentice9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😆
[–]JojisRaviolis58 points59 points60 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think I speak for all short, ugly, broke women when I say we don't want him either. Guys like him are in our inboxes and we'll take being alone before we stoop low enough to consider him, we're still worth something while he is not.
[–]cherry-sweetFDS Newbie132 points133 points134 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
These worthless wastes of space also have the following requirements for women: must be a size 0, earn 6 figures, be 20 years old and willing to have sex 24/7 and not demand anything in return. LOL.
[–]ceejaymemeFDS Newbie62 points63 points64 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’ve chatted to a few guys who wanted to meet a curvy lady. Curvy translates to a stick with big boobs.
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Curvy translates to a stick with big boobs
😆😆😆😆
[–]WitchykoFDS Newbie56 points57 points58 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And she needs to pay all of the bills and always cook and clean.
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must be a size 0, earn 6 figures, be 20 years old and willing to have sex 24/7 and not demand anything in return
Yeah, you forgot virgin 😆😆😆
[–]NinoEminesFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And virgin, or else they'll start calculating ''how muvh length of D was in her''
[–]MountainRockTree4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Meanwhile they're 5ft6, work at Walmart, unattractive and overweight with a toxic personality
[–]Acherontia_atro0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You forgot being obedient and a virgin and have no debt, that is also a requirement.
[–][deleted] 74 points75 points76 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lmao!
[–][deleted] 67 points68 points69 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Lol. Solid response. I was doing online dating not too long ago and was getting messages by ugly fat men that were old enough to be my dad. I told them flat out that they were delusional if they thought I would be into them. I told them specifically bat in your own league. They thought I was being sooooo rude, lol men need a fucking reality check.
[–]edcargalFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes!!! I had that happened to me some old, short, very unattractive man sent me a message saying that I was so gorgeous that he was willing to marry me. As if he was going to do me the favor... and all I kept thinking was: what makes him think I would want to marry him???
[–]radical__daphneRuthless Strategist20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good for you!
[–]Blackishcat27FDS STRATEGY COACH44 points45 points46 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That retort is sheer gold.
[–]katherineemeraldFDS Newbie63 points64 points65 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Have they ever considered that women may have an easier time finding a date because they actually put effort into their appearance? I have my tinder settings set to everyone and there are way more women who are beautiful with interesting bios than there are men. Men think they can get away with having nothing to offer simply because they’re men.
[–]FDSFemmeFataleFDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men on OLD hold up a fish while wearing a dirty, nasty t-shirt and think they deserve a fucking model in a cocktail dress for their effort. 🙄
[–]EntireTadpoleFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yesssss!😂
[–]Elegant-StopFDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love how they don’t want women to care about looks, but also not to care about money, career, status. We’re supposed to be swooning over basic decency and wanting anything more makes us shallow. I can’t with LVM.
[–]seraphinelysionFDS Apprentice35 points36 points37 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow. Just wow.
[–]fairygems35 points36 points37 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This reminds me so much of Ed from 90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days. He’s 54 years old, awkward, not conventionally ‘hot’, and was single for 28 years before trolling Facebook to find a beautiful, 23-year-old girlfriend because he doesn’t consider women similar to him in age and appearance acceptable partners.
[–]EntireTadpoleFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
“Not conventionally hot”? Is this the loser with the super-cute Filipina? My god he must be one of the ugliest men who has walked the earth. To think he was married and had an affair on his wife.
[–]FatPam007FDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol I don't get why people are surprised when someone with the genetical lottery obviously gets all the people of the opposite sex, or the same sex, or whatever, but how they can question that an obvious alpha female/male is gonna get laid much more??? I guess it's just science
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
😭 the jokes write themselves. Self awareness, lads... it’s free
[–]ZeroNineOhNineFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unfortunately I think self awareness costs the high price of introspection and admitting mistakes, which, when it comes to these guys, the cost of abandoning their sexist superiority complex is too high a price to pay for self awareness...
[–]blackcelfemcel_FDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
HVM always and only for the non-wgtow girls. No betas never, ever.
[–]parieta1FDS Newbie37 points38 points39 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Introspection: 0
[–]chochipandcheescakeFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😂😂😂😂😂😂
[–]kittycakes22FDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m short and broke, not ugly though. Still a catch or nah?
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LMAOOO. The entitlement is real!
[–]BlackgirlwandersFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Men are pathetic
[–]Sonderdragon2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe if you’re a 3/10 stop shooting for 10/10s?... or are you not able to admit you’re shallow asf?
[–]OnlySolMain2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's kinda ironic because I have seen a couple of posts that cry the same thing just gender reversed. People obviously wanna settle for the best they can. And some people are delusional in their expectations. Be the best you and date the best for you! People always say that and forget that the best for you isn't always the best for him/her. :/
[–]stovetop_bellbottomFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sigh 😔
[–]Miraculousflorist0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hi! I’m new so I’m still kind of picking up the lingo. What is an mgtow?
(Also if anybody has a list of the acronyms used commonly for this sub please redirect me to it!)
[–]Just_A_R_I_A0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agreed with him till he said his standards were super high too. It happens on both sides, I think people should date who they want and be able to love, but should evaluate their standards if they find themselves single for a long time.
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