People being born naturally RP? A discussion.

ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2021-06-04T09:25:42+00:00

I had the idea that girls were attracted to smart, sweet, and caring guys. (even then I was still aware of the minimum looks threshold)

I mean they are attracted to sweet smart and caring guys.

Hot sweet, hot smart, and hot caring guys.

Lol

Expensive-Guitar3609 · 2021-06-04T03:29:53+00:00

People are born with a well defined personality and behavioural traits, if that's what you mean, yes absolutely. Of course you can shape your behaviour and become a better (or worst) person, and sometimes situations and life experiences play a huge role on people's behavior, but yeah genetics define who you are, no doubt.

I remember se used to argue about this with my father and my older brother when my younger brother was in kinder. He was like what? 4? 5? And he had this great, magnetic personality that dragged kids, boys and girls, and even their teachers around him. The pearents of his little friends were almost obsessed with him, dads told my father all the time how smart, talkative and fun he was, moms were like infatuated with him, always telling my mom how cute he was, little girls wrote him cute love letters and boys would invite him first to their birthday parties.

Of course, my brother grew up to be a huge Chad, but this didn't surprise me, my brother or my dad not even a little, like we knew he was going to pull some hotties as an grown man, and we knew it right away when he was in kinder.

Mind you, both my older brother and I are quite good looking, and the kid wasn't the exception, but there is something more about him, it's not just looks alone, he has something, some kind of energy or magnetic aura, that drags people, and even things, around him. He doesn't need to behave in a certain way to make girls do this and that, he doesn't need to put on a facade in order to make people like him, he just needs to put himself there and things just happen because, you know, he is him. He can say the more dumb, stupid thing and people will laugh and think he's super cool, he can skip his first day at work and the boss will joke about him having "a wild night", no kidding. His girlfriends will go an extra mile for him, his exes will hunting down like forever, his friends love him, people trust him even if they barely know him.

There are lots of funny stories I could tell about the kid, but my point is that it's like he was just born, as we say in Argentina, "con un ángel aparte" (with an extra angel).

Is he "naturally red pilled", well, I know for sure he has some "Chad" traits even when he doesn't know about the existence of these pills stuff. Personally, I think if some guy can just born "likeable" then it's quite possible for others to born with a personality that ressembles the red pil ideas, absolutely.

AreOut · 2021-06-04T07:24:19+00:00

"natural" RPs are not born but taught about RP behaviour in their early age by their RP dad/uncle/some else older man

Mothers will actively try to "protect" their child from it and that's how you get braindead bluepillers, some recover in their 20s/30s, some, unfortunately, never.

owta_this_world · 2021-06-04T08:56:37+00:00

Yes people born into either extreme poverty or extreme wealth usually have redpill mindsets.

The people who were born in the middle are the bluepilled so that means the majority are bluepilled.

Good looking guys are usually bluepilled while the reverse is for very ugly guys.

Hoopy223 · 2021-06-04T02:49:30+00:00

A lot of the Redpill/PUA stuff is about cultivating a psychotic personality more than anything else.

ToughAnswers · 2021-06-04T03:33:34+00:00

I think it's a combination of genetics and experience.

Some who seem like they were born redpilled might just have had early experiences, some maybe which they don't even remember

SmurfESmurferson · 2021-06-04T02:37:57+00:00

All of this is obvious to kindergartners. That’s why it’s perplexing to the women of PPD when men claim that they never knew it

kissmetilyouredrunk · 2021-06-04T02:49:24+00:00

Basically everyone is "naturally red pilled"

The only people who claim they never knew this shit are internet dudes who are too socially inept to recognize polite progressive lies when they see them

milkyymochii · 2021-06-04T02:49:05+00:00

My favorite thing about the redpill is this crybaby notion that “women lied” about looks being important. When & how did women (as a monolith) lie to all males everywhere? Pretty sure all kids are told “looks don’t matter, what matters is on the inside”, this isn’t specific to just boys; and if anything girls were probably told this more than boys.

I think Adam Sandler movies, TV sitcoms, and whatever other cookie cutter hollywood productions lied to males. Males in shows/movies are pretty much almost always pictured with a gf/wife that is WAY hotter than they are:

George Lopez, King of Queens, any Adam Sandler movie, Family Guy, The Simpsons, According to Jim, Modern Family, The Big Bang Theory, The Sopranos, Family Ties, Still Standing, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, Parks and Rec, Flintstones, Etc etc

And aren’t most of these written by men?

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TrueCenterRealist · 2021-06-04T02:29:37+00:00

Yeah, seems like common sense to me.

evasive_manuevers2 · 2021-06-04T02:39:16+00:00

I would say like 50% of people's personalities, on average, are inherent and inborn, rather than taught.

If you were genetically predisposed towards narcissism/antisocial personality disorder you are probably automatically redpilled, or something close to it. No empathy = 100% immunity to bluepilled thinking, including "women are wonderful", just world fallacy and all traditional conceptions of good vs evil.

Much of TBP hinges on your ability to conceive of behavior as being driven by goodness rather than self-interest. For men to be simps, they have to buy into the madonna part of the madonna whore complex. Their angel is special and wonderful and would never do all the mean things TRP talks about... right?

Meanwhile someone who is genetically evil (more or less) will perceive all others as evil by default, and will therefore have an easier time understanding that women collectively are much, much, much more shallow, animalistic, deceitful and manipulative than everyone is willing to publicly admit.

By the way - Not saying you are evil OP... just more evil than average or something like that. You're like chaotic neutral at best on the DND alignment chart. Like an orc or demonspawn, you were born with a hard limit on how much morality you're capable of, and that's why you're insightful.

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-06-04T02:55:10+00:00

I don't think people are "born naturally redpill." The cognitive theory is that people's brains are basically lumps of clay that are shaped and molded by their experiences and then solidified somewhat.

People might be born with certain proclivities or predispositions toward being physically active or being socially affluent/savvy, and those inclinations are tuned up or down by their environment.

I've noticed that some less attractive people are very socially affluent and it makes sense because were it not for their social intelligence and linguistic skills, they probably wouldn't have reproduced.

angels-fan · 2021-06-04T03:12:57+00:00

The black community is full of naturally red pilled guys.

_lemazaki · 2021-06-04T03:27:14+00:00

I mean, you know people that have some redpill acknowledge here and there. Everybody has friends said they will never marry and girls who use they beauty and youth to their benefit.

What is thing most people don´t know it´s the "theory", the number, the logic deductions and etc... Today with internet is easier.

I was raised by my mother and grandfathers. I learned things taking punches on my face because there was no one to teach this stuff. Lucky for me that I don´t have fear to fuck my self and learn from experience and bad shit.

I always knew how to get girls, what they want, who can I get and who I could not, my weak spots, my strong points. My REAL MISTAKE was about marriage. I really though this shit was forever because she was a virgin, gave me a boy and tattooed my name on her body and was a good person.

AceOfBlacks · 2021-06-04T03:54:34+00:00

I disliked the social monkey dance since preschool, used to sit in the lego box and build things while actively avoiding and observing everyone. I don't trust you motherduckers.

Kind of like I do today.

sniper1905 · 2021-06-04T04:45:10+00:00

"The natural is the guy that learned all those skills just before you did. You're still trying to figure those things out and what works for YOU."

- Rollo Tomassi (The Godfather of the RP Community)

He talked about it in this video.

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-06-04T06:42:47+00:00

I wouldn't say naturally born, but I think a lot of stuff is really just learned from your environment, I just came into this pill stuff a couple years ago and I find it entertaining and a lot of it is a good laugh but a lot of the positives so-called red pill is really stuff that I learned from my parents in particular my father and just my upbringing, my father always pushed physical fitness in the household, he was an athlete and High School and so were my brother and I, my mother set a standard of the kind of traits that I look for in a woman, as far as the financials I was the first one in my family to graduate college and I specifically chose my major just for the money, we weren't truly poor, maybe lower-middle-class I guess but my father provided based on Blue Collar work, and my brother and I kind of just naturally knew that we were going down a different path I got into Tech and my brother has been in the Coast Guard for the past 20 years getting ready to retire soon so there's the financials, and even though my father was older when he had us he always gave us a lot of advice , some of it out dated, but most of it's still valuable when it came to women

So I guess that's why the only red pill content creator I watch on a regular basis of Coach Greg Adams and I just do that because he's funny as hell, a lot of the stuff I see on the red pill is really just A well-branded variation of things my father already taught me🤷‍♂️

ChibsFilipTelfordd · 2021-06-04T09:24:23+00:00

pretty much knew at age 8 that soulmates were bullshit. When anyone would ever talk about"That special someone", I was thinking "But how do you know that they're the perfect person? Cuz there's like... a hundred million people right?". Until I became religiously influenced for a little while and believed in soulmates for a few years but even then it just never made sense to me before I re-admitted the truth to myself

Just because mystical religious soulmates aren't a thing doesn't mean that the active choice of choosing a life partner with someone you care deeply about isn't beautiful nonetheless.

It's not magic. But that kind of makes it better since it's an active, autonomous choice.

Kumquat_conniption · 2021-06-04T11:08:14+00:00

Good. Girls are smarter and more competent. Especially when they are compared to boys when they are children, since they mature so much faster.

GrandRub · 2021-06-04T11:24:26+00:00

"soulmates" isnt bullshit. its bullshit that there is only ONE person that will make you perfectly happy ... but it isnt bullshit that there are people you will vibe with in an instant ... and there are people you will hate in an instant.

Indis96 · 2021-06-04T12:14:43+00:00

Have you ever noticed this? Have you ever felt some people are naturally born redpilled or that it's even possible?

Yes, of course some people are born RP, Mike Tyson for example always had that mentality, Dont let anyone take you off your main purpose (Boxing in his case)

Work your ass to get results, dont be a pussy that bends to PC society norms.etc.

Lots of examples of people that have RP traits and behaviour...

I think though, what counts the most for people is experience in life in general, a dude like me admittely that sits on the computer for better half of the day is not going to garner much experience outside in real life when encountrering social situations.

Also neglecting outside also means less oppurtunitys to meet others and mutal. Most of the action is done in real life encounters.Unless you are actually making a profit from home, its not a good way to live when you realise 10 years later you have neglected a lot from just sitting inside non-stop.

Im getting side tracked here.

If the answer is yes, how common? If the answer is yes, to what extent?

I think thats hard to anwser to what extent.

I think its definately in the minority of men for sure. say a group of 10, maybe 1-3 are RP at best.

If the answer is yes were you born redpill?

By nature men are born ''RP'', but of course society bends that in a way of shaping the population, through marketing/media/infulence etc, when that becomes ingrained over the years, you have social conditioning.Men cant speak what they have on their minds without careful constructed words that wont offend 72 different pathetic new ''genders'' and views without being cancelled and labeled every word under the sun, even if its true in what he says.

thegr8profiter · 2021-06-04T12:30:07+00:00

Nope. Even as a child, I was more concerned about my Mom than my Dad. A child resonates with women and their struggle more. Yes, I grew up to a typical man but if a woman ever leaves me for my masculine ideas, I will have only myself to blame for. No, I am not changing. I am what I am.

wtknight · 2021-06-04T13:08:00+00:00

Some people are either more genetically disposed to have dark triad traits, or grew up in environments where dark triad traits were encouraged, or at least not discouraged. So yeah, some people are going to be more “naturally Red Pilled” than others.

houstongradengineer · 2021-06-04T14:13:51+00:00

RP is about casual sex for the most part. Some people are definitely born predisposed to enjoying it being okay with that lifestyle. Other people are more predisposed to be loners, and others still are predisposed to porn addiction or LTR's. Some people are also born with certain strengths and weaknesses that limit their amount of choices from the full above variety. Most people, however, have access to each choice on how to live their life. They'll go with what makes them feel good, I guess.

NDN2004 · 2021-06-04T15:44:37+00:00

I can’t speak for everyone but there’s two type of guys who were red pill minded before discovering it.

They were winners, popular, good looking, athletic, confident/cocky. They’re comfortable with women because women were naturally attracted to them. So they eventually understood validation doesn’t work in their favour and other rp techniques.
The losers, the guys who never got any female attention for whatever reason, ugly, overweight, underweight. They understood the darker side of the dating market and life in general for that matter because they’ve been rejected because of their physical appearance. So if they decide to get in shape they already understand hypergamy, because they felt it.

These are usually the only two ways someone can understand the darker side of the dating market by default

BlackPorcelainDoll · 2021-06-05T05:45:31+00:00

Yeah all this shit is basic and easy stuff.

Icy_Consideration905 · 2021-06-06T13:31:01+00:00

from my experience i think people who born with a bad mothers have a much more reasonable view on women maybe just me, but that shock you had about how good caring beautiful creature just shrink until it disappear and somehow you will see them as they truly are!!!

Title	People being born naturally RP? A discussion.
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