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Australian teacher convicted over sex with student speaks out | Female journalist writes a sympathetic story about a female pedophile teacher, including witholding her name. Can you imagine a male pedophile ever being treated so leniently by the media?

EricAllonde

November 25, 2019
2376 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2019/11/25/sex-offender-school-teacher-speaks/
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Title Australian teacher convicted over sex with student speaks out | Female journalist writes a sympathetic story about a female pedophile teacher, including witholding her name. Can you imagine a male pedophile ever being treated so leniently by the media?
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Date November 25, 2019 11:55 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
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[–]EricAllonde[S] 544 points545 points546 points 6 years ago (43 children) | Copy Link

Knowing she was facing a prison sentence, Natalie took a self-defence course while on bail.

She feared she would be a target for violent offenders.

[...]

Her conviction means she has been barred from teaching, but she said she feels locked out of the employment market altogether.

“Even applying for jobs was frightening, because I’d have to tick the criminal history box,” she said.

[...]

She subsequently learned that the organisation introduced the check after an anonymous caller, claiming to be a journalist, threatened to publish a scoop about the sex offender on its payroll.

[...]

Church became a no-go zone after she was warned she will be charged with trespass if she ever attends a service again.

Her placement on the sex offenders’ register means she must tell police every time she changes her job, car or email address.

My god! How terrible that a woman is experiencing these negative consequences of being a convicted pedophile that are totally routine and normal for a man convicted of the same crime! /s

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 213 points214 points215 points 6 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Yeah that all seems rather mundane for a male sex offender

[–]neveragoodtime 128 points129 points130 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Hell, that’s mundane for a male caught urinating in public. Breastfeeding is natural, but urinating is not?

(Urinating in public is not OK, but it’s not a sexual offense anymore than public breastfeeding.)

[–]matrixislife 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Public urination is illegal for both sexes, this is indeed not a good comparison. You can argue about the differences in the way it's treated, about men going on the sex offenders register for it and women not, but it's not comparable to breast feeding. This would be equivalent to men going shirtless.

[–]Ass_Guzzle 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Did you miss the part where he compared it to breastfeeding? Or is this just how we do

[–]matrixislife 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Eh?

that’s mundane for a male caught urinating in public. Breastfeeding is natural, but urinating is not?

That's the comparison to breastfeeding, so afaik I didn't miss the comparison seeing as I mentioned it. Not really sure what you're trying to get at here, looks like you lost part of a sentence there?

[–]pm_me_your_buttbulge 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you're arguing a different point though. Similar to.mens nipples and women's nipples.

[+]jmkiii1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

Boobs are not genitals. This is a stupid comparison.

[–]neveragoodtime 30 points31 points32 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And neither of them are sexual assault, hence the comparison.

[–]counter345 35 points36 points37 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not being funny but what classifies as genitals shouldn't be the epidome of your argument, at the end of the day a lady breastfeeding in public isn't sexual more a minor convenience, exactly akin to a male peeing in public. Not sexual but a minor convenience.

[+]jmkiii -21 points-20 points-19 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Where would you draw the line?

[–]counter345 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This "line" you're talking about is drawn equal when you consider breastfeeding a baby vs public urination. Both, like I said, are nonsexual acts involving sometimes necessary actions. (Lack of public toilets everywhere vs feeding a baby). At the end of the day if you justify one and not the other it shows clear lack of understanding of the basic logic behind both actions

[–]YeltsinYerMouth 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pissing is not sexual

[–]GermanShepherdAMA 17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Penises aren’t inherently sexual. It’s a reproductive organ but also a part of the urinary system.

[+]jmkiii -16 points-15 points-14 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say otherwise.

[–]GermanShepherdAMA 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You heavily implied it

[+]jmkiii -7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

how?

[–]The_Great_Sarcasmo 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here.

"Boobs are not genitals. This is a stupid comparison."

[–]Blutarg 37 points38 points39 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She feared she would be a target

Oh, how awful to be a target of some unscrupulous person!

[–]vlad0202 26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

o myyy gooood, that's so unfair... or just the process every people on the sex offender list has to conform, yes, not only those nasty men; for once the justice system has equal right, feminist should be happy !

[–]beansguys 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean I think you should be charged equally under the law... but I also think the entire system should be changed and that would mean for cases like her the punishments wouldn’t be as harsh

[–]skgody 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She isn’t a convicted pedophile. Pedophiles have sex with children who have not reached puberty or are pre teen. She gets off lightly. If it was a male they would be run out of town, articles would be plastered all through the news papers.

[–]n3miD 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the term pedophilia is commonly used by the general public to refer to any sexual interest in minors below the legal age of consent regardless of their level of physical or mental development.

But the actual term for what she is..... an ephebophile

[–]skgody 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes you are on to it. The average person is using the term in an incorrect manner.

[–]Raunchy_Potato 63 points64 points65 points 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

She feared she would be a target for violent offenders.

Good.

Her conviction means she has been barred from teaching

Good.

but she said she feels locked out of the employment market altogether.

Good.

She subsequently learned that the organisation introduced the check after an anonymous caller, claiming to be a journalist, threatened to publish a scoop about the sex offender on its payroll.

Good.

Church became a no-go zone after she was warned she will be charged with trespass if she ever attends a service again.

Good.

Her placement on the sex offenders’ register means she must tell police every time she changes her job, car or email address.

Good. Fuck this bitch and every goddamn feminist who supports women like her. Which, incidentally, is every single feminist.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good. Fuck this bitch and every goddamn feminist who supports women like her. Which, incidentally, is every single feminist.

And horny guys who are like “lol at least she’s hot, she could’ve done whatever she wanted to me if she was my teacher.”

Some guys need to grow the hell up and quit making it seem justifiable.

[–]Bloke_Named_Bob 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a guy who was sexually assaulted by a MILF when I was 13, I really is not nearly as nice as they make it out to be. Surprisingly, it's impossible to enjoy something you didn't consent to.

[–]okilty 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Actually, I disagree with banning her from church. Of course someone could keep a discreet eye on her, but any church that forbids forgiveness is no church. I have a friend who I found out is on a list. All his friends left him, but I still phone him up for a beer every month or so. We chat about technology, a common interest.

[–]TheWheatOne 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. Until proof is found by the court or through extremely obvious actions, like in video or audio recording, it should be a standard for both sexes to allow institutions such as churches, therapy, and schooling, to help with legal and emotional self-defense. Mob mentality is devastating to those who are falsely accused.

[–]carlsberg24 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

but she said she feels locked out of the employment market altogether.

Good.

That's actually not good. No one benefits when people willing to work are not able to. With certain exceptions for volatile professions, criminals who have done their time should be able to return to work unobstructed.

[–]xRisingSunx 34 points35 points36 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the feminazi mis-representation here. She has been locked out from all the EZ bullshit jobs, but not jobs in general. Manual Labor doesn't give a fuck if you have a criminal record. They hire those type of guys all the time.

Speaking of gender, she is also a fucking GIRL. They will probably give her a job in the office doing paperwork for fucks sake. No, it won't Air Conditioned and yes, she will have to deal with low-class men that will ogle her every time she walks by, boo fucking hoo. Sometimes life ain't fair.

To the majority of society her crime is the subject of jokes. In fact, there are so many thirsty ass simps out there it might even make them want to hire her more.

VP: Hey Sir, is it okay if we hire a Female sex-offender?

CEO: Well, is she hot?

VP: Damn right she is

CEO: She's HIRED!

[–]Raunchy_Potato 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

With certain exceptions for volatile professions, criminals who have done their time should be able to return to work unobstructed.

Nah, pedos should be stored underneath the prison and never let out.

[–]TrajanOptimus117 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Then do that, but don't release them back into a world in which they can never properly function, what do we gain from that?

[–]xRisingSunx 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She can function just fine, she just doesn't want to downgrade the type of job she has to something that will allow someone with a criminal record.

Even though this dumb cunt will have an exponentially easier time than a Male Pedophile looking for work. Depending on the boss, her Sex-Crime history might even be a positive, and that is something you can NEVER say for a man.

[–]skgody 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is mainly what we do with the criminal justice system across the board, that’s why recidivism is so high because people often can not get jobs after leaving prison, as a society we gain nothing from this system that predominantly targets men.

[–]carlsberg24 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's not going to happen and in the meantime you are paying for their upkeep out of your taxes.

[–]Raunchy_Potato -4 points-3 points-2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then my taxes should stop going to them.

[–]GDMongorians 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure she “feels” locked out, but guess what she deserves to be locked out of jobs that require her to be around minors. That’s what the intention is of the sex offender registry, in order to protect minors.

[–]rabel111 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not child sex offenders. They should not, and are not permitted to work in areas involving children. That includes service, all health care and education jobs either involving children directly, or likely to involve exposure to children indirectly. Their work opportunities are limited, as they are no longer trusted with children.

As for other work, people should judge their reliability and trustworthiness by their previous acts. That can never be undone. Prison is punishment, and if possible rehabilitation. It is not an erasure of past criminal acts.

[–]LordMasterN 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

r/pussypassdenied

[–]huxepenner 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Summary- women get unconditional empathy no matter what they do, men don't.

[–]camletoejoe 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She had a trial and was convicted. Many men get no due process at all. Its a joke.

[–]HNutz 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Poor baby.

[–]KneeDeepThought 102 points103 points104 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I can't decide whether to laugh or cry at the blatant hypocrisy- somehow everyone forgets how to spell "rape" if the perpetrator is female, and that's just for starters.

[–]OliverV04 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It CanT Be RaPe if ThERe Is nO pEnEtrATIon

[–]rabel111 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only people who cannot use a capslock believe that dribble.

[–]redditor_aborigine 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, these cases aren't often called rapes in the Australian media.

[–]Roary93 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

About 98% aren't. Source - Am Aussie

[–]redditor_aborigine 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is technically correct.

[–]Lethn 139 points140 points141 points 6 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link

Her family members and friends have stuck by her, but other barriers remain.

I'm sorry, what? Good find on this article, but fuck is it hard to read, the media have gone from trying to paint female paedophiles in a positive light to giving them their own fucking interviews and justifying their bullshit. I'm somebody who thinks 16 years old and so on is a bit of a grey area when it comes to this sort of thing on either end but it's the case of adults should know better especially teachers.

This teenager was fucking 15, any younger and it would have definitely been just her being an outright predator. As for the last line, what a load of bullshit, this never stopped them from printing the names of men who have merely been accused of lesser crimes in comparison.

[–]tbl44 80 points81 points82 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Men are guilty until proven guilty, women are innocent after proven guilty.

[–]AbstruseMurmurings 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This may be the summary of our era.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

In this age-span, I don't think it's so clear cut, and I definitely think they should not be addressed as paedophiles - which is in this case used as a legal term and not the scientific pathology - because it hurts real children by devaluing the term.

Certainly any form of abuse is depraved, and the younger the victim is, the harder the punishment should be, but it's not always necessarily the case that it is abuse. Age of consent laws are drawn differently all over the world, over here in Europe at least a dozen countries or so set it at 14. The deciding factor of whether or not relationship is consentual or not can never reasonably be geography, in some cases they do want it and I don't think it's for anyone else to say that a teen being with a 25-year old is necessarily automatically bad.

The most prominent case where it was indeed a good and desirable thing is quite probably the French president, Emmanuel Macron, who met his current wife when he was a student of 15 as well, she was his teacher.

Don't be so hasty to judge.

[+]Mynameischad011 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Er...you haven't even mentioned the fact she was a teacher, so there's an abuse of trust and power issue here too. It's not just about the age difference, which is why in many countries teachers can't legally have sexual relationships with pupils until they're 18, no matter the age of consent (and in practice would be sacked even if they were 18 anyway).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's inconsequential. It entirely depends on the context and person. Abuse is always abuse, but that is not automatically the case just because they have/want a relationship. In the case of e.g. Emmanuel Macron (and others) it wasn't a problem that she was his teacher.

[–]PuddleOfMush -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

It's more that the places where the age of consent is older are the only ones actually doing it right. 14? A lot of 14 year olds are just hitting puberty, why would that ever be okay? Their idea of consent and "wanting it" is warped by their hormones.

Why would anyone above 20 even want to be with a 14 year old? You could never relate to them on any fundamental level because no matter how "mature for their age" they could be, they don't have the life experience. They aren't even fully their own person yet.

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

It's more that the places where the age of consent is older are the only ones actually doing it right

Hah, hardly. The medieval morality is certain places of the world is appalling.

And no, at 14 years 97% of males are mid to late-stage puberty.

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You could never relate to them on any fundamental level

People keep saying that as if you need to be able to discuss quantum physics or taxes with whomever you are seeing. In any way that matters, the younger you are, the more likely you are to be in touch with emotion, joi de vivre, creativity, spontaneity and other things. I personally think that 25 should likely be the roof for how old you can be to be with a teen, but I don't think that it's all unreasonable. Also you don't really decide who you fall in love with.

[–]SJimPickins 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

So 25 with a 13 year old is cool with you? It's almost double the age.

Fuck off outta here

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago* (19 children) | Copy Link

This is a 13-year old. This is a 24-year old.

Even though there are generalisations, there are no absolutes in this context. You cannot quantify quality, everyone is different, and tbh it's not for you to judge them.

[–]SJimPickins 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Uh yeah it is along with other fellow jury members and we would find them guilty.

You are advocating for full on adults in their literal mid 20s to be able to have sex with kids in their early teens. That's disgusting and I hope the authorities are monitoring you for such vile views that only other pedophiles would support

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago* (17 children) | Copy Link

Well, there's such a thing as law and ethics, and mob rule doesn't something wrong. You may disapprove all you want, everyone has an opinion, but that says absolutely nothing about the merits, values or nature of what you scorn.

I don't think you know what that word means, paedophilia is a pathology, children are always off limits, and I advise you to be careful with what slurs you throw around at and accuse people of. I'm well aware that the ultraconservaties that belong in the middle ages use that word to shame people, but regardless what legal terms you make use of it has no bearing on the real scientific and psychological terms.

[–]SJimPickins -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

You advocate 25 year olds able to sleep with 13 year olds. You are in no position to lecture me in the slightest you disgusting fuck

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Well you're out of line if you think that you can dismiss it that easily. Your reaction is kneejerk, I doubt you've ever come in contact with the very few people that it would suit. Nevertheless I won't waste my time arguing with someone who would rather yell than talk.

[–]SJimPickins -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

In my country, Australia, 16 is still below the age of consent, as is 17.

Considering he was 15 there is even less of an argument in her case, not that she had one ton begin with anyway

[–]redditor_aborigine 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That's just wrong. Age of consent varies by state, but 16 is typical (unless you're a teacher/scoutmaster/priest etc.).

[–]SJimPickins 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Not in my state. I tend to agree with it

[–]redditor_aborigine 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What state?

[–]SJimPickins 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Surprisingly, Victoria.

[–]redditor_aborigine 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not so.

It remains 16 in Victoria: http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/vic/consol_act/ca195882/s49b.html.

The exception I already mentioned exists: http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/legis/vic/consol_act/ca195882/s49c.html

[–]thejordanhall 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The age of consent in Australia is 16.

[–]SJimPickins 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Afraid not

[–]thejordanhall 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The age of consent is 16 years of age in the Australian Capital Territory, New South Wales, Northern Territory, Queensland, Victoria and Western Australia.

https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/age-consent-laws

[–]Sergeant_Fred_Colon 119 points120 points121 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

- Natalie had been in education for 27 years.

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So the photo makes it look like a young attractive teacher but the reality is she's a 60 year old

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Christ it gets worse.

- Natalie has retrained and has started running mental health programs to adults.

Where I am from those with sex crime histories are not allowed to work with vulnerable people, ie adults (and children) with metal health issues.

[–]Lethn 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait so they basically manufactured this article outright with a photograph that's not even of her currently in order to sell their story? I actually didn't realise this because the article pissed me off, fucking hell it really does keep getting worse.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Uh, that sun-damaged skin clearly does not belong to a young woman.

[–]666Evo 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

20 + 27 = 47

Not that it makes it any better, but she's not 60. I also presume they meant at the time of her arrest, so it would have been less when the crime was committed.

A pic from her mid 40s seems appropriate to me.

[–]redditor_aborigine 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So the photo makes it look like a young attractive teacher but the reality is she's a 60 year old.

I didn't spot that.

[–]TheOnlyKarsh 41 points42 points43 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"* Natalie cannot be identified for legal reasons."

What legal reason keeps her from being identified?

Karsh

[–]xRisingSunx 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If she is already convicted? None. Her name and face are both public record. She is on the Sexual Predator Watch List that everyone in the public has access to.

The only "legal reason" would be one this shitty NewsRag put upon themselves.

"If you give us this interview we will hide your identity, sign here"

But they mention it in a such vague way to insinuate that it's some LAW and not their own bullshit that they wanted to do anyway.

[–]redditor_aborigine 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sex offender lists aren't public in Australia.

[–]matt271202 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it’s for the victim I’m not 100% though

[–]redditor_aborigine 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's the usual reason but that only normally happens when they're related.

I doubt any legal reason prevents her name being published.

[–]BaconMan957 32 points33 points34 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Her face is blurred out. If it was a man, it wouldn’t be

[–]keystothemoon 24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Also, that's not her picture. The article said she has spent 27 years in education. The person in that pic is 27 at most. They used a pic of a different person to make her blurred picture appear more attractive and therefore subconsciously easier to sympathize with.

[–]unr3a1r00t 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The caption under the picture says that it is a picture of the teacher in question. If you look at the neck and shoulder underneath and to the side of the blurred portion, you can see that it is indeed a neck of someone older.

I agree that the article is bullshit and trying to get readers to sympathize with someone they shouldn't, but lets not turn around and spread misinformation regarding the article. It will only serve to undermine your position.

Cheers.

[–]Dedubzees 90 points91 points92 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m a white man, so this pedophile will receive more sympathy from a post confirming her pedophilia then I will have receive my whole life.

[–]Axleonder 49 points50 points51 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This article is poo-pooing over female sex offenders not getting help to reintegrate, and facing barriers...

You'll NEVER see an article spew sympathy like this for male sex offenders.

[–]everythingiswrong911 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

i’ve seen a few articles and i think either a documentary or news story. they are just not common

[–]popzi 22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Australian Rapist*

[–]tragedyfish 42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The important takeaway here is that the author of the article, Denise Cullen, is an advocate for child rapists. And that the news organization The New Daily supports child rapists as well.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You know what, I know this was published because she's female, and this is part of giving her a pussy pass, but I'm not a fan of continuing to punish criminals after they've already done their time. If you're going to release them from jail, let them find employment. Otherwise, just kill them if you're never going to let them have a job or a life again. Male or female.

[–]420_Watermellon_69 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most people would rather hire a non-criminal over a criminal. It's simple Darwinism.

[–]WeedleTheLiar 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree with this generally; there doesn't seem to be a genuine path to rehabilitation and reintegration for convicts in general and sexual offenders in particular.

That said, trying to make the situation seem unfair because she's a woman and claiming that there's only a 3% chance that a woman would reoffend is garbage. No one ever suggests that male sexual offenders are treated unfairly. I read about a whole community made up of only sex offenders that exists because certain state laws stipulate that they can't go within a certain range of schools which is such a distance that they're actually boxed in and can't legally leave, and this woman is talking about the difficulty of finding work.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's very true and the article definitely belongs here. I just want to see justice reforms in first world countries in a number of areas, that's one of them.

[–]Tkx421 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Some of these chicks end up doing porn after they are caught and making money off it. Wrap your head around that one.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This one's a bit late to the game methinks unless we're talking granny stuff.

[–]spideyjiri 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the only kind of rape apologia that exists in civilized countries.

But people in colleges are being taught the reverse.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If it's true, the media/ editor should be considered an accomplice to the crime. If you shield and protect a criminal on the basis of their gender, you may very well be a sexist.

[–]0pipis 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That "may" in your last sentence is completely unnecessary.

[–]parkowork 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Don’t fuck kids... shouldn’t be difficult unless you’re a sick puppy. I’m glad her life is hard now.

[–]BainzXoXo 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Didn’t you read the article? This poor pedo bitch was depressed because of her divorce!

[–]parkowork 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I did read it - she's disgusting.

This isn't the case where it was ignorance of age, and a one time thing . She was his teacher, and was helping him for a while, and then willingly engaged in that conduct on multiple occasions KNOWING he was underage.

She's a monster - I'm glad the world is treating her as such.

[–]BainzXoXo 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You don’t understand it at all. The kid obviously caught her in a bad moment.. when she caught him alone, multiple times. Do I have to create a false sense of injustice towards this woman like the article did for you to get it? And second of all this is a woman so she must be the victim in all of this some way.

[–]WeedleTheLiar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well, the kid was bragging...

[–]jakeinator21 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't think you're quite picking up on the sarcasm BainzXoXo is putting down.

[–]xmx900 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's not always easy to pick up on sarcasm through a wall of text.

[–]jakeinator21 -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure but, like, the first comment was only barely longer than yours and was obviously sarcastic.

This poor pedo bitch was depressed because of her divorce!

Maybe if you skimmed and didn't catch the poor pedo bitch part, I get that. But that was no wall of text.

[–]genericteenagename 18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All pedophilia is evil

[–]Unstable-Bat-Cat 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"in the back of my head, I think, I'm a sex offender."

Uhhhhhh no shit.

[+]Cest71 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Glad to know thenewdaily supports pedophilia.

[–]SurturOfMuspelheim -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

15 is not pedophilia holy fuck.

[–]White_Mlungu_Capital 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are they hiding her face? She is a convicted child rapist, people need to know who she is.

[–]AlphaWolf987 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Denise Cullen's twitter feed is a near constant attack on men. No wonder she writes a sympathy piece of a female sex offender

[–]skgody 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s only in more recent times in New Zealand that it has been made illegal for a woman to have sex with a young boy under 16, before that it was not illegal. Where as it was illegal for a male to have sex with a young girl. Originally below the age of 12 then raised to below the age of 16,

[–]m0mmyneedsabeer 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nasty woman.

[–]Mode1961 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

IT says she was in education for 27 years, assuming she was 18 she started in education (WHICH isn't likely) she was at least 45 years old. Imagine the public outcry if this was a man, the memes would be all over the place.

[–]Seventh_Planet 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Including witholding her name.

This should be a standard for any and all journalistic reporting on crime. If you hate reading the full name of a man accused of rape or a similar crime in the news, then don't condemn them when they are withholding the full name.

What good does it do to the reader knowing that person's full name? I don't know what the reporting restrictions on a convict's name are in australia.

[–]EricAllonde[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you'll find most people in this sub only opposed naming accused sexual offenders, i.e. those who have not been convicted.

There are no legal barriers to naming convicted sexual offenders in Australia. This journalist is doing a favour to the convicted female pedophile by choosing to withhold her name. That would never be extended to a convicted male pedophile.

[–]GDMongorians 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow.. The author also posted to her twitter that she’s got tickets to the “Toxic masculinity writers event”. Hmm.. coincidence not likely.

[–]tdabc123 23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

However, due to his age, the 15-year-old “had no consent to give”.

Why THE FUCK is "had no consent to give" in quotation marks? Is she disagreeing with age of consent laws. Let a male journalist write that sentence about female victim and see what happens. Especially when they follow it with:

The victim, by then a young man, read an impact statement in court, saying how Natalie “made me feel excited and powerful”.

[–]lesbefriendly 31 points32 points33 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why THE FUCK is "had no consent to give" in quotation marks?

Because it is a quote. She's quoting the judge.

[–]BakedGoods 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

niiice.

[–]Toetickler 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, but who would want them to be? They should all be treated harshly, male or female, and always after they've seen due process.

[–]matrixislife 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

No comments allowed on the article of course, can't have anyone speaking out against the agenda.

She seems to want to have jobs where she's in charge of people, teacher, mentor, etc. If she wants a job without a check she could easily get a job behind a till, or stacking shelves.

[–]WeedleTheLiar 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or hard manual labour like the majority of convicts have to take.

[–]toadboy04 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What I find interesting is that they constantly state why she should be allowed to move on with her life and not have to deal with the consequences of her actions. Her actions being having sex with a 15 year old boy. I guarantee if it was a man in this position he'd be getting people saying "deal with it" or "you should've died in prison", not a sympathy piece from a news outlet.

[–]WeedleTheLiar 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I liked how they trotted out the "he didn't report it right away but waited 5 years". For some reason...

This right here is one of the only times I'm sympathetic to a person waiting to report a sexual crime. The kid was underage, likely wasn't sure of his rights, especially since he was being assaulted by someone that was supposed to be looking out for him, and still reported it shortly after becoming aware of the impact of the crime. This is reasonable.

[–]Anonymous2401 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Spread the news, everyone. The New Daily supports raping children.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

About the witholding name part. I live in australia and its illegal to publicly name any sex offenders. They’re not doing it cause they want to protect her. It’s literally the law. Radio presenter Derryn Hinch almost went to prison ages ago for naming two pedophiles. He was once also falsely accused of rape but that’s another story

The article does favour her being a woman though and it’s way more lenient on her than they would to a man and thats wrong.

[–]redditor_aborigine 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's false.

Derry Hinch breached a suppression order designed to ensure the fair trial of an accused man. Most sex cases have no suppression orders.

[–]SurturOfMuspelheim 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The victim was 15, she isn't a pedophile. Fucking hell, I wish Reddit actually knew what "pedophilia" was for once in its life.

[–]Azurenightsky 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Re:The Title

Yes, in fact I can. His name is Jefferey Epstein and not only did he not kill himself, he surely didn't protect himself from the Media, they did it for him.

Makes you wonder.

[–]themightyJG 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's not a "sex offender" she's a rapist pedophile.

[–]vladdeh_boiii 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pedophiles are pedophiles. Either you send them to jail, or you send them to a correctional facility.

[–]Son-Robert 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

GUYS don't worry, female sex offenders are only 2-3% likely to recommit. That's basically non-existent. We might as give her teaching license back.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But, he explained, “as I matured I felt ashamed, angry, guilty and confused”

we need to stop thinking that the male kids who are fucking these older women don't suffer from consequences of their actions

[–]maxcorrice 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Inb4 “but muh celebrity” like for fucks sake yeah they won’t face as much consequences because it’s a different level, hell look at cardie B in comparison to non celeb female cases, she got even less

[–]DestinyYeeter 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

SO she was 25 and the boy was 15 and now 5 or so years later he charged her. She then gets fired and so she was convicted in her early 30's so she was probably fired on the spot so she probably wasn't in the education industry for 27 years. The must of done that so people feel horrible for her.

[–]666Evo 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

she was 25

Where did you get that? The article doesn't mention her age as far as I can see.

[–]n3miD 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its interesting to read this about this woman being so "hard done by" because when I think about news articles I've read about teachers abusing their power I can only recall it being females......

[–]rabel111 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Working with children checks are required for all health care workers whether they are working with children or not. It's to cover those HCW who may be trusted by friends or family of adults patients, or who use their employment as a HCW to groom families or volunteer organisations.

Health care providers are legally responsible for ensuring that their staff have them, and are liable for heavy fines or deregistration if found to be employing someone without it.

[–]1LegendaryWombat 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What I did was wrong,” she told The New Daily.

“I didn’t tell a soul. I felt so much shame and guilt.”

Not enough guilt to stop it or confess...I guess.

The convicted criminal said she is speaking out about her experience after leaving prison to highlight that female sex offenders need help to reintegrate into the community.

Because male sex offenders have no problems! Goddamned idiot. Yeah, sex offenders are treated harshly, no shit, and much like say, murderers, we treat those who commit them with disdain. In particular her sentence was not very high and I doubt it would have changed her.

Natalie has retrained and has started running mental health programs to adults.

So...working with more vulnerable people, of course you're going to have trouble!

[–]Yoda300 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's a trooper

[+]Addictedtomatcha1 points 6 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Is there a place on reddit where news like that one are copy-paste'd after replacing all mentions of the female offender by a male offender's? Just the same words, with the teacher being a "Bob" and a "he / his / him". It would be very revealing to switch genders or ethnicity (in the case of some tweets) at times just to see how offensive it sounds after search / replace.

[–]EricAllonde[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The nearest thing to that I know of would be r/menkampf.

[–]cali1013 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Serves her right, entitled bitch.

[–]rabel111 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Clinical and forensic psychologist Dr Katie Seidler said it is almost impossible for sex offenders to start afresh. Dr Seidler said current policies failed to distinguish between offenders’ different levels of risk. The reality is that female sex offenders have between a 1 and 3 per cent chance of reoffending – this is almost non-existent,” she said. There is no grounds in reality or risk to limit (Natalie’s) involvement with the community in this way.”

This attitude, that women cannot commit sexual crimes or crimes of violence and abuse against children or that when they commit these crimes they are less culpablle, this is the attitude that allowed this rapist to get away with her perverted attack on this boy without detection.

The body of evidence that underpins psychology practice and education in Australia is so infiltrated and contaminated with feminist ideology, female sex offenders are viewed as victims. The feminist ideological dogma is so entrenched and unchallenged, that even when a woman commits a sexual crime against a child, she can only be viewed as a victim.

Until psychology practice is reviewed and reformed and its sexist bias removed, it's contributions to the community, gender studies and criminal matters is misleading and destructive. That this feminist author who is also a psychologist, supports the perpetrator and reframes the male child victim as the perpetrator or a least will victim, this is not surprising. Her twitter account show her bragging about supporting the "hate speech" of "toxic masculinity". How people like her ever get their "working with children" certificates is beyond me.

[–]insane_playzYT -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, convicted of rape

[–]redditor_aborigine 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no offense of statutory rape in Australia.

[–]SJimPickins -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You advocate for 25 year olds to fuck 13 year olds. You are sick

[+]Badusernameguy2 -7 points-6 points-5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Since this is men's rights that means you're concerned for the hypothetical male pedo teacher not the male student literal victim?

[–]EricAllonde[S] 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We're concerned about double standards, including where men face far more harsh punishment than women who commit the same crimes.

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