A clear example of how feminism infantilizes women and excuses sexism faced by men

00saucy00 · 2018-03-12T13:15:52+00:00

Reverse sexism isn’t a thing. If anyone, regardless of their gender, is being mistreated just because of their gender then it’s sexism.

noleague · 2018-03-12T12:18:57+00:00

I like that they compared themselves to a child

azazelcrowley · 2018-03-12T12:35:45+00:00

Children are scolded for hitting adults all the time (at least when they have good parents). This comparison makes no sense.

FlatTire2005 · 2018-03-12T13:20:12+00:00

If this is true, then women shouldn’t be allowed to vote, drive vehicles, own their own property, own guns, etc.

If this is true. Oh, it isn’t? Well I guess women can continue to do these things and also accept the consequences of being a shitty adult. Maybe just don’t be shitty! Best of both worlds.

HeForeverBleeds · 2018-03-12T12:38:48+00:00

Yeah, both feminism and traditional gender stereotypes infantilize women. The main difference is that feminism is inconsistent: they'll say women are like children when they're arguing for perpetual female victimhood, then they'll say women are stronger, smarter, better leaders, etc. than men when they're arguing why half or more of CEO's or politicians and STEM majors should be women, or arguing why female athletes should be paid the same

The hitting a child analogy is wrong anyway, because

Sexism doesn't require a 'power structure'. It requires being prejudice towards someone due to sex
The idea that there are power structures in society that advantage men over women / male privilege is a myth in the first place

Saying things like sexism against men doesn't count because of social power is begging the question, since there are already so many prejudices and disadvantages that males face for being males that what is the evidence that males have more social power in the first place?

abend2 · 2018-03-12T15:14:02+00:00

Equality is granted to equals. If you can't handle being an equal then you don't deserve equality.

thrway_1000 · 2018-03-12T12:39:02+00:00

Feminism is sexism, just the socially acceptable kind at the moment. Feminism is also a hate movement with power, so they can definitely be sexist.

crnext · 2018-03-12T15:53:56+00:00

Feminism is no more about equality than heads / tails is about standing a coin on its edge.

cheshiredudeenema · 2018-03-12T12:59:27+00:00

Also, no surprise that this was retweeted by everyone's favourite feminist, Clementine Ford. This is mainstream feminism now.

DolphinsAreOk · 2018-03-12T14:47:17+00:00

So its ok for a child to hit its parent?

workthrow22 · 2018-03-12T15:41:17+00:00

this 'reverse _____ doesnt exist because of _____structure " is getting soo old. and its still dumb

mymarkis666 · 2018-03-12T16:06:43+00:00

But can't a 14 year old child knock out a 20 year old adult woman? That's fine?

outdoorsybum · 2018-03-12T16:20:48+00:00

Sexism is sexism. Racism is racism. It doesn't matter it you're a majority or minority. If you a black man deny a white person from a job because he is white , that's racism. If you, a woman, deny a man a job because he is a man that's sexism. Just because you believe that some grand conspiracy is plotting against you because of your genitals or skin color, you have some serious issues to work out.

Although I understand that these events tragically happen. And when blatant sexist/racist discrimination happens you should report it.

McFeely_Smackup · 2018-03-12T16:32:11+00:00

Sheer idiocy aside, how is it that people like this manage to miss/not notice/ignore the VAST amount of power women are granted in western society?

Where does this idea of "men have power, women are powerless" come from, it's like some kind of victim fetish role-playing. The reality is women are granted far more 'power' than men are, and they exercise it in ways like this...belittling men and declaring men have no right to equal treatment.

v574v · 2018-03-12T14:15:19+00:00

The definition of power:

the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events.

The historical male version:

the capacity or ability to direct the behavior of others or the course of events.

The historical female version:

the capacity or ability to influence the behavior of others or the course of events.

crippsy1988 · 2018-03-12T16:51:19+00:00

It's true, no such thing as reverse sexism or reverse racism. It's called sexism and racism. Fact.

8880886 · 2018-03-12T13:08:29+00:00

What about children that kill thier parents? Are they less than murderers? Are the wounds inflicted less deep?

lonewolfhistory · 2018-03-12T15:21:16+00:00

By there logic, women are nothing more than children. Children have very few rights. Therefore, again by there logic, women shouldn't have voting rights or other such rights afforded to adults. Based off there logic only of course

gevander · 2018-03-12T16:32:09+00:00

Feminists who use this argument also want to ignore that "power structures" (who has the power in a given place or time) are fluid and situational .
The manager at McDonald's has ZERO power in the hospital. The celebrities who say "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!" are trying to take power where they have none (or little).
Most power structures don't care about the gender of the person wielding power.

LilGreenCorvette · 2018-03-12T17:05:49+00:00

I hate these "reverse" blahblah things. Sexism is sexism, it's not reverse. where in the dictionary does it say "sexism is the unfair treatment of onllyy women"?

I'm a woman and hate all this stereotyping on men. My mom is a huge man basher because of her toxic experiences and doesn't understand all men aren't like that, just the ones she chose.

BruceCampbell123 · 2018-03-12T20:23:34+00:00

sexism is related to power structures

Says no dictionary ever.

DVHeld · 2018-03-12T15:47:39+00:00

Also, a child hitting an adult is still wrong.

2018-03-12T16:30:06+00:00

They're right.

Reverse sexism isn't a thing.

It's just plain old sexism.

srkelley5 · 2018-03-12T16:56:29+00:00

So are they arguing that women are inherently inferior to men? Do they ever read what they post before posting it?

SkeptiCynical · 2018-03-12T20:17:19+00:00

Combating the pseudo-intellectualism that would present such a shortsighted, retarded shower-thought as a fact is just as important as combating toxic feminism.

phoenix335 · 2018-03-12T16:21:51+00:00

If a power difference would be required to make behavior illegal or immoral, it would present a very very difficult question to solve:

Who determines if a power difference really exists?

That question is impossible to solve and it will be forever unsolvable since human society and social behavior are the most complex interactions of any system that we know. It is impossible to determine the degree of oppression, and it is perfectly possible for one individual to be oppressed on one issue and be the oppressor in another, or even the same issue. Also, the same acts can be oppressive on one person or beneficial when applied to another.

Oppression and power structure as a mode of determining guilt or morality is completely subjective and therefore a moral hazard of the highest degree to apply as a measure in social interactions.

MagicTire · 2018-03-12T16:40:54+00:00

"Sexism is OUR word!! And you can't have it!!"

Stephen1985 · 2018-03-12T20:06:45+00:00

Did this person just compare women to children? Oh dear.

chambertlo · 2018-03-12T22:39:29+00:00

Feminists are petulant children that want to use their female privilege to subjugate men rather than strive for equality.

149327 · 2018-03-12T13:18:38+00:00

Women are not children. They are responsible for themselves and can defend themselves

DirHR · 2018-03-12T12:32:43+00:00

They aren’t saying women are children exactly. They’re saying there’s an imbalance in power and they liken it to an adult vs a child. Completely stupid anyway since there’s no imbalance in power like that, but that’s what they were doing.

Ninjetik · 2018-03-12T16:31:38+00:00

You're right, I should let my 5 year old drive.

DOWN WITH POWER DIFFERENTIALS

meltedcheeser · 2018-03-12T17:21:30+00:00

This is embarrassing.

garden_toolshed · 2018-03-12T17:46:15+00:00

I'll agree with this as long as I get to hear every woman and minority say the words "I am a child and you are the adult".

CondemnedZealot · 2018-03-12T17:56:07+00:00

Every time I see one of these while flipping through my front page my immediate instinct is to downvote it. Then I realize the sub it's on and that we're actually lambasting it.

alclarkey · 2018-03-12T19:44:44+00:00

I have been physically assaulted on multiple occasions, told not to drive down this street, attempted robbery with a screwdriver, on mulitiple occasions by black people. Are you going to sit there and tell me the things they did to me, the slurs they yelled at me, they're not racist?

I have seen it multiple times, men express anger and frustration, but they're not allowed to because they might get violent, even when they say they have no plans of doing so, that's not due to sexism?

When you're in family court and everything you say gets twisted around to make you look like the bad guy, that's not due to sexism?

When you call the police about your abusive wife, and you get arrested instead, that's not sexism?

Surtysurt · 2018-03-12T20:07:59+00:00

Power is completely irrelevant in any conversation of racism or sexism.

FemaleHypnotist · 2018-03-12T20:13:27+00:00

There's strong women and there's weak men (mostly mentally) Well, if a stronger woman abuses a weaker man, this is "sexism" Sexism is the abuse of the weaker, whether male or female. Actually I wouldn't call it sexism but just plain abuse regardles of gender. As a matter of fact I no longer believe there's such a thing as sexism. It's just the stronger who abuses the weaker, regardless of gender.

thatCigarGuy · 2018-03-12T20:34:45+00:00

But when a child hits an adult you tell them they have been bad.

booblover513 · 2018-03-12T22:53:52+00:00

And yet we teach kids all the time not to hit adults because it’s wrong. Pretty silly point that is being made there.

2018-03-13T03:20:03+00:00

She’s flexing her Priviledge in a way that victimizes her at the same time

2018-03-13T04:30:50+00:00

The next person who tells me I can’t experience racism, sexism, or any other form of prejudice is going to get an ear full, sick of hearing it.

CrackaDon_YT · 2018-03-13T06:23:50+00:00

Remember guys, gender is just a social construct. Gender isn't real. But women are real. And the patriarchy is keeping them down. The genderless male patriarchy that is male but lacks gender other than male. Also, women are real. But gender is not. But women are. Also men, who are bad and women are good, but gender is bad, but that's okay because it doesn't exist. But women do.

RhEEziE · 2018-03-13T00:36:34+00:00

If I see a random woman on the street and think she must be dumb cause she's a woman. What power structure did I utilize to accomplish this sexism?

professor_mcamateur · 2018-03-12T20:53:17+00:00

reminds me of a news story years back where some young kid, about 6 years old and a child of a broken home, ran towards a police officer in the trailer he lived in while holding a knife. the officer shot the kid, kid died.

Tom_Doniphan · 2018-03-12T21:07:07+00:00

They got the women being children part correct.

carbenz · 2018-03-12T14:48:21+00:00

unrelated note: hitting children as an adult is very fun.

KingRobotPrince · 2018-03-12T16:29:28+00:00

Stupid post. The reason a child hitting an adult is not as bad as an adult hitting a child is that an adult if far stronger and capable of doing considerably more damage.

For this to be the same it would mean that sexism could not hurt men as much as women, which is obvious horse shit.

To say you aren't allowed this or you cannot go here because you are a man, is no different than saying the same to a woman. To say 'kill all men' is no different to 'kill all women'. No amount of perceived "power" is going to change that.

It's obvious what they are trying to achieve. To establish a discourse where they establish that men "have the power" therefore no man can ever experience sexism. Allowing them the freedom to treat men awfully.

Kind of reminds me of the 'blame the rich/blame the Jews, kill them all they are or oppressors' mentality of Stalin and Hitler.

candidly1 · 2018-03-12T16:16:56+00:00

What fucking genius posted this nonsense?

ahremanes80 · 2018-03-12T16:59:33+00:00

So, given the example in this post as a reference point, men are the adults and women are the children hitting back in retaliation. Grow the fuck up women... Hitting an adult is only gonna get your ass beat as a child.

psomaster226 · 2018-03-12T17:11:07+00:00

Wait, is she saying it's completely acceptable for a child to hit an adult, regardless of context?

2018-03-12T17:45:05+00:00

It's still wrong for a child to hit an adult though...they didn't really think this through did they?

IamBrian · 2018-03-12T18:13:22+00:00

I have no idea if traditional feminism embraces this idea but I think many normal people can see that there are microcosms in the world in which minorities or women are in power or are equal in power. The “reverse racism” argument holds no merit.

ScottyBrown · 2018-03-12T18:17:14+00:00

There are more female managers in the workplace because off extreme sexism against men. Women have the most power to have flipped the script in forty years

2018-03-12T18:51:41+00:00

Children are only different from adults because of the power structure? Or the difference between children and adults created the power structure?

I'm so confused by this analogy. Reminds me of the time I worked on a case where we won over $300k against a law firm that fired a white attorney in order to hire a black attorney.

C2074579 · 2018-03-12T20:03:08+00:00

Any woman who agrees with this is saying that she is lesser than men. HA! Take that femicunts.

Ballsdeepinreality · 2018-03-12T23:22:30+00:00

A clear example of a child who wasn't loved.

LoveEsq · 2018-03-13T02:37:21+00:00

Not my normal forum, but FYI both are probably assault and battery and the severity of the damage may control (you might want to know that children can be tried as adults in many jurisdictions and children do commit murder) as well as heightened penalties for crimes against certain types of people (like senior citizens or people under a certain age). I really hate pointing out that the term children is vague since all of us have parents and are children. I assume the author meant people under the age of majority, which not only differs by jurisdiction but also can change by statute.

Generally the difference is in the facts and the strength of those facts rather than assumptions, a lesson everyone should probably learn if you want to uphold the rights of people (or get to the truth) and not just spread stupidity.

2018-03-13T05:54:20+00:00

So I am superior to women in practically every way? Hmmm.

4iamalien · 2018-03-13T12:17:55+00:00

What about a good looking female with power over males?

QuasiQwazi · 2018-03-13T14:30:59+00:00

Feminists hold all the power on campus. So you can’t be sexist against them.

the_unseen_one · 2018-03-13T17:01:48+00:00

So, women are children and men are adults? I feel like this erodes more feminist arguments than it supports.

Arcanegil · 2018-03-19T16:49:30+00:00

Sure reverse sexism isn’t a thing. It’s just sexism, regardless of the the power structure or dichotomy in which said sexism occurs , so when a member of the minority targets a member of the majority guess what it’s still an act of prejudice no matter which ways it goes.

jpin86 · 2018-04-24T09:07:54+00:00

Sexism is sexism in both directions

2018-03-12T16:42:14+00:00

lol finally admitting that their role in society is similar to that of a child.

Leneord1 · 2018-03-12T21:09:15+00:00

Twitter user is a sexist for making a woman equivalent to a child

Peridorito1001 · 2018-03-12T17:46:14+00:00

For what is worth not all feminist think like this , I don’t know how many think like this but looking at Twitter probably isn’t looking at what is “normal” , so let’a try to not generalize saying all feminism is like X , that’s like saying Men’s right movement is sexist because this one dude said something sexist , feminism is about bringing equality to women , but not all feminist are about bringing equality

garden_toolshed · 2018-03-12T18:14:10+00:00

Shhh, don't tell them they have no concept of using storytelling devices when it comes to similes and metaphors.

JHHELLO · 2018-03-12T21:36:20+00:00

Good picture, awful, awful title that takes away from the sub

Title	A clear example of how feminism infantilizes women and excuses sexism faced by men
Author	cheshiredudeenema
Upvotes	1700
Comments	235
Date	March 12, 2018 12:04 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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Feminism is no more about equality than heads / tails is about standing a coin on its edge.