An Infographic to convince people that gender inequality is a two way street. [Infographic]

chocoboat · 2015-04-22T05:05:57+00:00

This seems like a good idea. The graphics that only show where men are getting the short end of the stick... some people just dismiss it as anti-feminist lies or whatever.

Mix it with things that they know are true, and they might show more respect for men's issues.

Did you make the graphic? It's one of the better-designed ones I've seen around here.

rocelot7 · 2015-04-22T07:21:49+00:00

That rape statistic. Added with prison rape it should be majority male victims? Am I wrong?

thrikreen80 · 2015-04-22T07:06:19+00:00

Very nice graph overall. The victims of rape is not accurate if you count prisoners as people, which you should. If you do, then more men are victims of rape than women.

http://www.amren.com/news/2013/10/more-men-are-raped-in-the-us-than-women-figures-on-prison-assaults-reveal/

Also, income inequality overall is still in favor for men, the closest statistic I have seen is 93%, though most state around 77 - 80% that women make to men. However, if you are a single, childless, under 30 woman living in metropolitan areas you are likely to be making the same or more than your male counterpart.

http://content.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,2015274,00.html

cabinfervor · 2015-04-22T14:14:30+00:00

Excellent-this is exactly what MRA and Feminists need to see more of in order for us to all realize we're fighting the same battle (or should be). Well done!

Mambo_5 · 2015-04-22T14:45:26+00:00

I'm impressed to see this in /r/mensrights. This graphic is wonderful and I hope it spreads like wildfire. Gender inequality hurts us all, thank you for posting this.

2015-04-22T14:23:03+00:00

So, I know that men get longer sentences for the same crime, and that's what you're trying to show with the "average prison sentence" statistic, but if that's what you're getting at, you should probably use a specific crime. Because if you just list "average prison sentence", you're going to get the argument that men commit more violent crimes and tend to be sentenced to longer sentences because they commit more heinous crimes.

It's the same issue as with the gender pay gap argument: people supporting the idea that wage inequality exists cite a number that doesn't control for type of job, hours worked, etc. What you're doing here is the same thing - not controlling for crime committed.

ZombieAlpacaLips · 2015-04-22T15:33:07+00:00

Might be good to have a whole infographic just for charts of sexual assault and rape from various sources using various definitions.

Zezombye · 2015-04-22T11:58:55+00:00

How are the fact that members of congress are in majority men an inequality? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there several studies that proved that the lack of women in politics, tech, etc was coming from their own will? If the only reason there's a lack of women in Congress is that they want not to be in Congress, then it's not inequality. Wouldn't inequality occur only if women wanted to be in Congress, but couldn't just because they are women?

L0gic1o1 · 2015-04-22T05:32:50+00:00

The male rape statistic is misleading; it requires penetration. A woman have sex without consent with a man- you know, rape, will be called 'Made to Penetrate'.

EeeeeeevilMan · 2015-04-22T06:10:28+00:00

I almost feel bad for offering this criticism, especially since it's based on being socially conditioned to see certain colors as masculine or feminine, but.....

I think it would help the readability if you changed the colors to something more feminine for the female portion. Red doesn't scream female to me and while reading the graph I kept sort of having to remind myself that the red was women.

I know that's stupid, but hey social conditioning is a thing.

Maybe light blue for the guys and pink for women? That's colors everyone associates with male and female without having to think about it.

Blue and red I automatically associate with politics, like Democrats and Republicans.

2015-04-22T07:32:57+00:00

Could add kindergarten teacher and oilfield worker job compositions to that.

keeead · 2015-04-22T13:33:53+00:00

This suggests being a member of congress is a good thing!

Ricwulf · 2015-04-22T14:35:38+00:00

I love this infographic. More often than not, infographics tend to focus on one group. This one here removes that pissing contest that happens and shows that everyone has problems.

Thank You OP for making this.

klowt · 2015-04-22T15:31:37+00:00

which link did you use for the average prison sentences?

MrMeem · 2015-04-22T15:51:05+00:00

Thanks OP!

I hope you expand on this and add some of the clarifications / edits mentioned below. This is a great tool to promote conversation that doesn't originate from bias, and I'd personally love to share it with friends and family once it's at v2.

Deansdale · 2015-04-22T11:59:27+00:00

If you do not concentrate on sex trafficking but look at trafficking in general, the ratio of male victims is much higher.

pupunoob · 2015-04-22T13:04:29+00:00

Lol, they won't accept it and will just say the numbers are made up.

thehumungus · 2015-04-22T14:33:20+00:00

It would be really helpful if, rather than trying to argue that men have every little thing worse in every instance (or that women do) we just acknowledged the problems our genders faced and worked on fixing them. The winner of the victim olympics doesn't get anything.

2015-04-22T14:46:12+00:00

The rape % is wrong however as many recent posts have started to explore.

BlackMRA-edtastic · 2015-04-22T14:52:00+00:00

The infographic underestimated male victimization in many areas. For example a John Jay study concluded juvenile males are half of the underage people sex trafficked in NYC. For rape victimization we see the usual disregard for forced to penetrtrate.

2015-04-22T15:39:05+00:00

Spot on, but I think sex trafficking and human trafficking are two different things.

Edghyatt · 2015-04-22T16:01:00+00:00

Is anybody else okay with the High School graduates disparity? If that was the only inequality in the world, I wouldn't complain at all. 48/52 is not that disproportionate.

2015-04-22T16:26:20+00:00

It's pretty good, but radfems don't care about facts anyway.

yummyluckycharms · 2015-04-22T17:10:30+00:00

The problem with these sort of infographs is that while they are good for creating conversation amongst men, it offers little incentive for the matriarchy to care.....

People who benefit from the system have an amazing capacity to rationalize any sort of imbalance.

2015-04-22T17:55:26+00:00

Great graphic, love the Egalitarianism.

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Not_An_Ambulance · 2015-04-22T18:01:45+00:00

Can someone tell me which of the links is the one for custody?

I'm an Attorney and the title "winning of custody" feels a bit weird.

2015-04-22T18:04:36+00:00

I used your image with credit in /r/Libertarian

Here is the link.

iongantas · 2015-04-22T19:46:24+00:00

Well, the rape victims bar is way off. I don't know what "sex trafficking" is supposed to mean, so I can't comment on that. The pink part for homeless also seems somewhat large.

blamb211 · 2015-04-22T21:26:36+00:00

Is the high school graduation difference there because of gender politics, or is it just there because the female population is larger than the male population? That's just a very slight difference, I could very easily see it being there because the difference in gender numbers.

galtthedestroyer · 2015-04-22T22:51:52+00:00

You forgot percent of people in prison, average life span, on the job deaths, and percent of people drafted into war.

speedisavirus · 2015-04-22T12:43:00+00:00

Except if you are going to apply the same criteria for "rape" to men as you do women then the men's rape rate is on par with the women's rape rate. At least.

iamheathbar · 2015-04-22T16:03:08+00:00

"Rape victims"

jtaylor73003 · 2015-04-22T08:49:13+00:00

You should include congress compare to prison terms (I know you didn't mean for that to happen but if a person groups things then that is what you did) because can choose to be congressmen yet men can't choose what there sentence for a crime will be. I suggest comparing jobs like nurse to garbage collector.

2015-04-22T15:53:58+00:00

What this tells me is, a bunch of deadbeat congressmen who graduated from college are living on the street, and run around raping women and killing men until they finally commit suicide.

masterrod · 2015-04-22T14:06:39+00:00

if men are more likely to die then women why would why should they get more custody rights?

I think custody portion doesn't help support the argument.

Title	An Infographic to convince people that gender inequality is a two way street. [Infographic]
Author	KanyeWest_GayFish
Upvotes	707
Comments	124
Date	April 22, 2015 4:26 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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