Anita sarkisian: sexism against men is impossible.

ParanoidAgnostic · 2014-12-29T05:59:12+00:00

There’s no such thing as sexism against men. That's because sexism is prejudice + power. Men are the dominant gender with power in society.

This perfectly sums up why the MRM needs to take down feminism as the dominant ideology on gender.

While the myth that men are the "dominant gender" is allowed to continue sexism against men will never be taken seriously.

IgnatiusBSamson · 2014-12-29T07:14:03+00:00

And there we have it. Rationalized bigotry.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2014-12-29T09:03:29+00:00

Step 1: Define power narrowly, disincluding forms of power you have

Step 2: Using the power you have to influence people under the veneer of being powerless

Step 3: Profit

Bonus Points: Define men as a group who uniformly have power, but insist on nuance when distinguishing women in the various subsets and women uniformly selectively when convenient.

chocoboat · 2014-12-29T06:04:43+00:00

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Black_caped_man · 2014-12-29T13:26:33+00:00

Her entire premise is inherently bigoted, divisive, and overly generalizing and patronizing towards both men and women. It's also factually wrong all the way through.

First of all, sexism is not power + prejudice. Sexism is prejudice on the basis of a persons sex. If sexism were power + prejudice then racism would also be sexism, because whites have more power than blacks, hypothetically.

It also fails to state what kind of power we are talking about, influential power? physical power? intellectual power? economical power? political power? Also are we talking about exercised power or potential power? Where does responsibility come in to the equation? It's not always the case but power often comes hand in hand with responsibility.

But okay, let's say that we are taking about perceived societal power (being a mix of different kinds of influential, political, and economical power) and disregard any influence that any responsibilities tied to that power has. Then yes, most of those who hold the majority of that power are men, so what? Does that mean I can't threaten any of those people, because to threaten someone you actually need to be able to overpower them.

Also this is going back to preschool levels of confused logic, I mean has she even heard of the fact that all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs? By her statement you can infer that since no man can face sexism and sexism is power + prejudice then any and all men will be more powerful than any and all women. She's basically saying that women are inferior in every way and could not possibly ever have more power than a man.

Even generally speaking that is simply not true and has never been, save for physical power but even that is a bit of a long shot and rarely relevant.

Sexism is prejudice based on sex, nothing more nothing less, everyone can face sexism even from someone with abundantly less power than them.

BeeeeboBrinker · 2014-12-29T06:02:37+00:00

Except that the power dynamic is often reversed in courts of law. It's reversed when it comes to parenting. It's reversed when it comes to being victims of violence and sexual abuse.

And it's convenient that she says "sexism against men" because she can ignore the rape of boys by women and the jailing and abuse of a 15-year-old boy based on false rape claims.

throwingwater · 2014-12-29T08:53:22+00:00

The dictionary definition of sexism is prejudice based on gender. Feminists love talking about the textbook definition of feminism being equality for all, yet this feminist here seems enjoy twisting her other definitions when it suits them.

baserace · 2014-12-29T08:56:43+00:00

That woman is a plague.

scamp41 · 2014-12-29T16:00:15+00:00

This view requires that all men are in positions of power, which is quite simply not true in the slightest.

Shironekosama404 · 2014-12-29T16:07:19+00:00

Dictionary definition of Feminism; Belief that men and women should be treated equally.

Dictionary definition of Sexisim; 1: prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women. 2 : behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex.

Feminists definition of Sexisim; Shit we make up.

2014-12-29T09:11:19+00:00

Ah yes, the same defense people use when saying "you can't be racist against white people".

2014-12-29T08:45:25+00:00

That "theory" falls flat on it's face right out of the starting gate.

No where is it proven Men are the dominant gender in society.

But if we even meet her "theory" halfway, men do not dominate all aspects of society, so there for ( by her theory) it would be impossible to be sexist against a female nurse, teacher , college student , Mid-wife etc etc. Or any woman where those women exist/ hold power. So by her own theory - there is zero sexism against girls in the education system. There is zero sexism against women in hospitals. There is zero sexism against women in social services . We could go on and on tracking what Jobs women dominate in and state that there is zero discrimination against women there ... if we followed feminist theory

TheGDBatman · 2014-12-29T16:52:32+00:00

At least she's consistent in her lunacy.

Tmomp · 2014-12-29T18:05:06+00:00

I find Warren Farrell's definition of power compelling -- essentially control over your own life. The power she's talking about doesn't give men power in their lives. Women's greater rights and men's greater responsibilities expose why he calls male power a myth, which I find compelling.

Evidence for male powerlessness includes lower life spans, higher rates of workplace injury and death, nearly all military deaths, and higher rates and lengths of incarceration, to name a few.

I hope she one day tries to understand men as well as she learned to attack us. She might develop some compassion and empathy.

AloysiusC · 2014-12-29T11:19:24+00:00

It's a woman's world and women have more power than men by a large margin. Any power individual men have, is a result of very hard work and personal sacrifice, not privilege. That's why men strive for power, it's their pitiful attempt to equalize (subconscious of course) with women. For a man to be of comparable social status to an average woman, he must be in the top 2% perhaps even higher.

This unequal pressure men face, produces exactly the distribution you'd expect: The few people at the very top are usually men and the few women that benefited from being with a man up there. And the vast majority of losers at the bottom of society are also men. More pressure causes more winners and a LOT more losers.

Want equality? Take some of the pressure off men and put it on women. Everything else will follow automatically.

modern_rabbit · 2014-12-29T13:25:16+00:00

Ah, the feminist habit of "using existing words with existing definitions to mean this new thing we just made up".

TheRealMouseRat · 2014-12-29T15:44:28+00:00

Kids in africa don't starve either, because starvation = hunger + power.

warspite88 · 2014-12-29T18:22:19+00:00

every time this woman opens her mouth or puts her hate to pen, she proves her misandry, her contempt for men and the real reason to her agenda. she is not trying to make a better society, she is not trying to improve gaming for women. her entire goal is to hurt men, to punish them and frame them for something that is unfair and unjust all the while she wants to get her own power, influence and money in the process. That is the core of feminism from its inception.

Wallsphincters · 2014-12-29T08:06:51+00:00

She hurts my brain

2014-12-29T09:27:45+00:00

And people believe this nonsense. This is the same retard that went after video games.

DarthNobody · 2014-12-29T09:45:21+00:00

Dont give her oxygen.

AmazingFlightLizard · 2014-12-29T14:11:25+00:00

I feel like if people had just ignored her schtick a while back, her dumb ass wouldn't be in the limelight now. But now we have to keep listening and sharing it all over because we seem unable to learn patterns when it comes to this shit.

new-man2 · 2014-12-29T16:21:52+00:00

If I get to define the terms, then everything I say is correct... by definition.

keeb119 · 2014-12-29T09:45:07+00:00

the ability to destroy someone reputation with an unfounded accusation of rape from feminist shows that this is a lie.

Nomenimion · 2014-12-29T09:45:23+00:00

She proves with every breath she takes that it's possible.

2014-12-29T17:07:11+00:00

A lot of men are powerless so this is just fucking ridiculous.

KAWUrban · 2014-12-29T17:29:55+00:00

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notIsugarpie · 2014-12-29T06:31:19+00:00

anita sarkisian and Jessica Valenti did change my mind, completely on one crucial idea and convince me that I was very much mistaken, so I'll give them that.

I used to think that the crazy/hot scale was absolute. That no matter how crazy a girl was, if she was hot enough, that crazy could be put up with. Valenti and Sarkisian convinced me to rethink this. They are both attractive, but no amount of hot could ever convince me to put up with their crazy. They proved to me that there is an upper limit to crazy in the crazy/hot scale, that once this upper limit is breached, it doesn't matter how hot the girl is, she's not worth it anymore.

At this point, Sarkisian is either so nuts that she believes what she's saying, or she's so manipulative that she's willing to seriously hurt society to further her own fame and fortune. I can't honestly decide which I would find more disturbing, and at this point, I will only say that, either way, I want nothing to do with her.

2014-12-29T10:57:30+00:00

She is so good at trolling us. Slow clap.

Wargame4life · 2014-12-29T10:33:10+00:00

This woman has all the credibility and logical merit of David Ike, i.e only deluded followers who don't live in the real world swallow their bullshit.

Thunderf00t repeatedly exposes this moron, and for me she has become a litmus test for bad journalism.

anyone who references or uses her "work/opinion/view" other than to criticise. has extremely poor logical faculties

Space_Ninja · 2014-12-29T20:12:51+00:00

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/01/women-children-can-leave-syria-homs-2014126171622446761.html

Women and children in the besieged districts of the city of Homs can leave "immediately", the Syrian government has said as peace talks between it and the country's opposition continues.

"I assure you at this second if the terrorists allow the women and children to leave Old Homs, they can leave immediately," Faisal Maqdad, Syrian deputy foreign minister, said on Sunday after the third day of negotiations between the warring sides.

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2014480316_restaurantadrift13.html

"An upscale waterfront eatery on the Ohio River in Covington, Ky., broke free and floated downstream during the dinner rush when the restaurant broke from its moorings. It came to rest against a bridge about 100 feet downriver, and all 83 on board had to be rescued, one at a time"

...Women were rescued first, then the men.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_children_first

The phrase was popularised by its usage on the RMS Titanic.[9][page needed] The Second Officer suggested to Captain Smith, "Hadn't we better get the women and children into the boats, sir?", to which the captain responded: "women and children in and lower away".[10] The First and Second officers interpreted the evacuation order differently; one took it to mean women and children first, while the other took it to mean women and children only. Thus one of the officers lowered lifeboats with empty seats if there were no women and children waiting to board, while the other allowed a limited number of men to board if all the nearby women and children had embarked.[11] As a consequence, 74% of the women and 52% of the children on board were saved, but only 20% of the men.[12] Some officers on the Titanic misinterpreted the order from Captain Smith, and tried to prevent men from boarding the lifeboats.[13][14] It was intended that women and children would board first, with any remaining free spaces for men. Because not all women and children were saved on the Titanic, the few men who survived, like White Star official J. Bruce Ismay, were initially branded as cowards.[15]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather

In August 1914, at the start of the First World War, Admiral Charles Fitzgerald founded the Order of the White Feather with support from the prominent author Mrs Humphrey Ward. The organization aimed to shame men into enlisting in the British Army by persuading women to present them with a white feather if they were not wearing a uniform.[2][3]

This was joined by prominent feminists and suffragettes of the time, such as Emmeline Pankhurst and her daughter Christabel. They, in addition to handing out the feathers, also lobbied to institute an involuntary universal draft, which included those who lacked votes due to being too young or not owning property.[4][5][6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuations_of_civilians_in_Japan_during_World_War_II

These evacuations started in December 1943 as a voluntary government program to prepare the country's main cities for bombing raids by evacuating children, women and the elderly to rural towns.

What about ze mens?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evacuations_of_civilians_in_Britain_during_World_War_II

Almost 3.75 million people were displaced, with around a third of the entire population experiencing some effects of the evacuation. In the first three days of official evacuation, 1.5 million people were moved: 827,000 children of school age; 524,000 mothers and young children (under 5); 13,000 pregnant women; 7,000 disabled persons and over 103,000 teachers and other 'helpers'.[1]

No mention of men.

You know Anita. Some men have power, but most men have none. Zero. That's why during evacuations they'll bus all the women and children out of harms way while the men wait at the back of the line. All those men that have died waiting for the buses and trucks to come back had no power at all.

scanspeak · 2014-12-29T21:37:50+00:00

Feminism - the radical notion that women are infants.

Falkner09 · 2014-12-29T22:27:47+00:00

That's because sexism is prejudice + power.

sigh. no, sexism is prejudice on the basis of sex, whereas sexism + power=gender inequality. why do these types insist on redefining the terms sexism and racism to refer to the social results of the ideology, instead of the ideology itself? it only ever seems to hinder their ability to get their point across to the rest of society.

2014-12-30T15:07:37+00:00

Like most feminists, she's not intelligent.

2014-12-29T19:01:48+00:00

Faster than light travel is impossible. If you look up sexism men can be easily at the receiving end of it.

neightdog · 2014-12-29T20:24:38+00:00

Because women cant ever have power

/sarcasm

solaria_mra · 2014-12-29T20:35:16+00:00

So if Alice Walton told one of her 29 hour-a-week, minimum wage employees to have sex with her or he'd be fired, that would be..... no? Still nothing?

Sasha_ · 2014-12-29T20:37:41+00:00

How do men have 'power'? It's a funny sort of 'power' when you die younger.

2014-12-29T21:55:39+00:00

My boss is a woman. Is it not sexism if she fires me just because she doesn't like men?

2014-12-30T06:31:13+00:00

Her statement is sexist itself.

IDOWNVOTECATSONSIGHT · 2014-12-29T12:02:46+00:00

Idc what she says, I would still fuck her

Title	Anita sarkisian: sexism against men is impossible.
Author	Lrellok
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Date	December 29, 2014 5:52 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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