What do we think? https://www.elle.com/life-love/a35398184/alienation-of-affection-lawsuits/

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LadyGrimes · 2021-02-05T18:41:47+00:00

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tallwomenneedlovetoo · 2021-02-05T19:04:50+00:00

Former family law attorney stepping in:

This isn’t about some poor sweet woman meeting a lying guy on online dating and the scorned, hateful wife decides to come in and ruin their happiness.

No. To prove alienation of affection, there has to be proof of the third party’s malicious actions, aka proof that he/she knew that the partner was married and made affirmative actions to continue and further the affair despite knowing that fact.

You literally cannot prevail on an AOA claim without that fact. There are plenty of other tort claims that fall along those same lines but for some reason, this gets people up in arms. Historically, it was men suing women’s friends and people she knew (not sexual in any way) for alienation of affection when they were helping a wife realize the husband was no good. But now that women have weaponized it, it’s suddenly being touted as fighting over a man? Nah. AOA lawsuits are essentially highly specific tortious interference with a contractual relationship suits and as FDS says, it’s paramount to remember that marriages are contracts that should benefit us, first and foremost.

LadyGrimes · 2021-02-05T19:17:18+00:00

He's more likely to cheat with porn or OnlyFans, those women affected should be able to sue those sites, cause chances are their boyfriend/husband blew all his money on those sites and now the wife/girlfriend can't afford rent and bills on her own.

dancedance_83 · 2021-02-05T20:43:17+00:00

If she knew he was married and continued on, why not?

UmmmHiHello · 2021-02-05T18:48:32+00:00

The mistress often doesn't know, and courts don't care to take it on case-by-case.

The only one who should be blamed is the one who broke the marriage contract - but then again, how many areas actually stipulate that a husband must be sexually loyal?

The entire marriage system is not set up to benefit women, and if we're thinking we have any kind of legal edge, we're incorrect in most cases.

There need to be legal repercussions against a man for legally entangling a woman with lies, that's for sure.

Fresh-Presentation76 · 2021-02-05T19:07:40+00:00

another thought: the way they villify this mistress is the reason single women start being excluded as their friends marry and get older. They frame her as 40, single, "running out of time" to have a baby and husband, so she decides to steal another woman's life out from under her. (This is a dude who posted revenge porn of his ex wife, I wouldn't say he's an innocent and upstanding man that was manipulated by another woman.)

The idea that older single women are desperate and will steal a husband results in single women being ostracized from social groups and it's so wrong.

warinmymind94 · 2021-02-05T23:43:29+00:00

The man should be able to get sued, and then divorced.

If the woman involved clearly KNEW he was married to another woman and yet continued to pursue the fling with the man, yes she should also be sued. Its negative value for a woman to be getting with a man she knows is married too, and ultimately she still doesn't get picked.

I remember being in a relationship when I was young and stupid and several other women clearly knew I was dating him and still were throwing themselves at him, aggressively trying to hookup with him. Why were they chasing after a man period let alone a man thats taken? Its low value behavior- ladies NEVER bother with a married man.

Watzoo · 2021-02-06T04:32:58+00:00

I’m sure there are legal requirements that must be met to file and then to prevail.

That said, I’ve lurked the “other woman” and “leaving for my affair partner” Reddits and read enough chump lady blog to be totally fine with suing affair partners into the next century at every opportunity. They’re not a real sympathetic group of people when you read their own words.

OrangeyPanda · 2021-02-05T18:51:50+00:00

Sounds like pickme stuff. "Oh no my poor husband has been seduced by this evil mistress! Don't worry sweety, we'll sue her for what she did to our marriage."

ASeaOfQuotes · 2021-02-05T19:01:34+00:00

Defendants in these suits are often an adulterous spouse's lover, but family members, counselors, therapists, and religious members who have encouraged a spouse to get a divorce have also been sued for these matters

This is really an interesting law. It also works for the benefit of men as well. I really can’t decide what my opinion on it is, but now I’m going down a rabbit hole reading about cases. I’ll have to read more and get back to you. 😅

Babooshka-123 · 2021-02-06T00:49:07+00:00

Should be able to sue them both

PollyAnnaSunshine · 2021-02-07T00:13:21+00:00

I think this law could be a useful deterrent for

"Other women" who go after married men intentionally
Meddling in-laws who intentionally create divisions in a marriage (this happens more than one would think).

Honestly the number of comments on here sympathizing with the other woman is surprising Yes, the man is the one who is married and he should be the one primarily held responsible via the divorce and any other legal avenues available to the wife. But that doesn't make the other woman blameless.

I've seen situations where women targeted married men- often due to money or sometimes just for the fun/attention of it. Classic Pickme/Sugar Baby behavior that we talk about often on here. These women pit themselves against other women and get off on hearing about how bad, unattractive, and mean the wife is and that she isn't "meeting his needs." This doesn't mean the scrote husband is not responsible. BOTH the cheating parties are responsible.

In the case that the other woman was tricked and lied to, of course she is not responsible for that and she is also an aggrieved party in the situation. I don't think she could be sued in that case and she is a victim of deception.

Maingurl · 2021-02-05T18:45:49+00:00

What!

LevelTurbulent · 2021-02-05T22:18:27+00:00

I would like to sue for the money they knowingly took from him out of my marriage. I'm not going to lie. He was claiming money was going into his 401K and it was going to women who knew about me, some who knew me and pretended to be friends with me, and they gleefully took money from me and my son. I basically worked to hand money to horrible, nasty women who screechingly laughed about hurting me and my child behind my back while they smiled to my face.

I don't blame women who sue. This shit is fucking evil. I already did what I could to my ex husband, my fake friends and his fuck buddies get to giggle off into the sunset to do this shit to another woman and her kids.

asocialsocialite · 2021-02-06T23:24:59+00:00

I absolutely think that the scorned spouse should be able to sue the other woman if she's aware of the relationship. I feel like there's a lack of nuance regarding OW, and while many aren't aware of what's going on, I think there needs to be an understanding that 1. There are women out there that have no problem steamrolling over other women for their own ends and 2. OW behavior leads to MORE, not less, LVM. OW that know what's going on have agency, treat her like an adult and hit her ass with some consequences.

Getting rid of AOA laws in many states mainly serves to benefit cheating scrotes and the pick-mes that will fuck over another woman for attention.

Fresh-Presentation76 · 2021-02-05T19:01:45+00:00

they'll find any way to blame a woman for a man doing wrong.

Fatt3stAveng3r · 2021-02-05T18:52:53+00:00

Why should a woman hurt another woman?

Get together and sue the man, especially if he lied to both parties. Suing the other woman is stupid.

Lazy-Design1979 · 2021-02-05T21:24:43+00:00

After reading that, I think a law like this is a really bad idea. It seems like yet another way for a misogynistic society to victimize women using other women, while diverting responsibility from men. I haven't looked into it, but I'd bet a lot of money that in the last 50 years this law has been primarily used by women against their husband's mistress(es). How would you even prove the 3rd party deliberately and maliciously worked specifically to break up the marriage? The only examples I can think of that would remotely come close are from Disney or soap operas.

This tactic has been used by LVMs forever...the object of the game is to reduce the amount of anger at him by getting the woman he cheated on to blame the other woman and not him. Don't do that. The best thing you can ever do is hold him solely accountable for his behaviour and then walk away.

This story right here is probably the number one reason I won't date men with kids - who wants to find themselves in the middle of a disaster like this? Not me.

Street_Narwhal_3361 · 2021-02-05T19:09:44+00:00

Why not team up with her and file a class action lawsuit against the scrote??

jackrusselterror1 · 2021-02-05T19:14:23+00:00

While I would never condone a woman sleeping with married/taken men I have to point out that it wasn't her who promised commitment to you. Sure, to shag someone's man is extremely low-value but that's her standard for herself and at the end of the day we can't expect others to be gatekeepers of your man's moral code. Any form of straying should be punished on the spot. Personally to me, wondering eye is already a dealbreaker, leave alone if I find a man chatting with female "friend", ogling Insta models, having an "old" Tinder account, etc

ReignOnYou95 · 2021-02-05T18:56:08+00:00

No. Sue him.

kapuchen · 2021-02-06T11:57:27+00:00

Just have a section in your prenup that has a punitive amount for infidelity

GlamorKiss · 2021-02-05T18:34:48+00:00

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equity over equality lol

Title	What do we think? https://www.elle.com/life-love/a35398184/alienation-of-affection-lawsuits/
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