I have no words.

garybuseysawakening · 2014-08-10T19:37:42+00:00

I hate how the meaning of troll has become so diluted that it means "person I don't like" now.

adamfxdx · 2014-08-10T20:59:49+00:00

I'd like to know how the author would respond to a woman writing in because "I left my laptop open and my husband went through all of my online accounts!"

ParanoidAgnostic · 2014-08-10T22:57:45+00:00

The Anita Sarkeesian thing works both ways. If someone thinks she has anything to offer, other than an example of the most annoying type of feminism, then I don't want to spend too much time with that person.

Hamakua · 2014-08-11T00:56:29+00:00

How do you reach this state of delusion? I mean honestly, what happened for this person to get here. I...just.... wut...

thesilentchief · 2014-08-11T03:55:15+00:00

Tenth: Your man is passionate about states’ rights. Racists and homophobes love states’ rights. Be afraid.

Yeah those are literally the only people. I'm getting sick of seeing public education regurgitated back at me. Yeah yeah, this is the same shit I heard in high school, I'm sorry you didn't choose to educate yourself past that point.

Also probably 90% of people would say the First Amendment is the most important (and make no mistake: it is). And she condemns people who would endorse it.

Does he recognize the name [Anita Sarkeesian] and say something that sounds feminist or, at the least, empathetic?

Why should a lying con artist receive any sort of empathy? I'd argue the opposite, if you do say something in support of Sarkeesian you're obviously not informed enough of her history to know what you're talking about. I don't think any reasonable person with all the facts could possibly support her.

AlphaWookie · 2014-08-11T04:16:47+00:00

From the comments: "This article is brilliant; it's beyond reproach... because if you were to criticize it you'll be dismissed as a troll. BTW, the reason there is no acknowledgement of female trolls because we don't call them trolls. We call them academic feminists"

gee_iwonderwhy · 2014-08-10T20:21:59+00:00

I actually laughed, it's like Cosmo for feminism. Too funny.

loddfavne · 2014-08-10T20:05:09+00:00

The people who is reading this are probably feminists. So, she's not telling women to dump men, but she's telling feminists to dump men. This makes all the difference. Men are much better off without a feminist partner imo.

scsimodem · 2014-08-10T20:20:16+00:00

I'm torn. On the one hand, I want anybody who believes this to dump me, and I want them to tell my why so I'll know I'm better off. On the other hand...facts...so...wrong. For example, I'm a male gamer and I didn't hear word one about Anita Sarkeesian from the gamer community...because they don't care. She's a non-issue, somebody to be dismissed and ignored for her blatant lack of facts. Public enemy number one in gaming used to be Jack Thompson, but as his disbarment knocked him to irrelevance, public enemy number one shifted to "EA" and recently among reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace "Ubisoft." I only heard about her through the MRA, or more specifically, Thunderf00t's take down of her stuff.

Also, I live in the South, where the 1st and 2nd amendments are considered very sexy. The others are considered important, but not 'sexy.'

I also like how the only amendment she considered an automatic 'keeper' was only there because it formed the foundation of Roe v. Wade. Even if I set aside my religious biases against abortion, the feminist obsession with the topic disturbs me.

Methodius_ · 2014-08-11T03:53:43+00:00

1) “What do you think of Seth MacFarlane?”

I've seen women who like this show. And you can like all kinds of content and still be critical of it. Family Guy is a hilarious show. It's not the best show, but it certainly is funny. Even the most politically correct person, outside of a tumblr feminist or SJW, would admit that the show is funny.

2) “Have you ever heard of Anita Sarkeesian?”

First, let's look at this quote:

This question is particularly useful if your man is a video gamer and, if your man plays video games, your troll-dar should already be set to high alert anyway.

FUUUUUUUCK YOU, lady. I'm a video gamer and have been my whole fucking life. And I've never trolled anyone. Do not equate a hobby that I love more than most with that type of negative horseshit. That's a small subsection of gamers (the kinds who only play shit like DOTA2/Lol and Call of Duty).

Second of all, Anita Sarkeesian is a fucking hack. And if you were able to get your head out of your ass and do any research into the claims she makes? You'd see that. But because she calls herself a feminist, you automatically take everything she says as gospel.

3) “Which amendment in the Bill of Rights do you think is the most important?”

I've never seen such drivel in all of my life.

Tenth: Your man is passionate about states’ rights. Racists and homophobes love states’ rights. Be afraid.

Or they could just be in favor of minimal interaction with the Federal government. It doesn't make them racist or homophobic just because some states tout that 10th Amendment to do racist and homophobic things.

Ninth: Your man picked the foundation for Roe v. Wade. Good egg!

I honestly doubt many people know this factoid unless they're extremely interested in politics/government or feminism.

And just because they're pro-choice doesn't automatically make them a good person. Pro-choicers can be douchebags too (and this is coming from a pro-choicer).

Eighth: No “cruel and unusual punishment” for your guy! It’s unlikely that he’d be cruel to strangers.

Or he just thinks that punishments should be fair compared to the crime committed? What are you doing, throwing this into Google Translate and having it spit it out back at you in a foreign language?

Seventh, Sixth, Fifth, or Fourth: He’s really into criminal justice but probably not a troll. Breathe a sigh of relief.

Following your logic, this could also mean he's interested in the laws regarding how courts work because he's hoping to manipulate them for some grand scheme.

Third: If he picks an amendment this useless, you should just dump him anyway even if he’s not a troll.

Wow, solid advice there. >_>

First: This could be a huge warning sign. Trolls cite the First Amendment as frequently as college application essays cite “The Road Not Taken.” They think that it gives them the right to verbally harass, stalk, and threaten whomever they want without any consequences.

So if someone misunderstands the 1st Amendment (as many people do), they're automatically a bad person?

4) “Can I borrow your laptop really quick?”

Ask him this question when he’s in the middle of using it. And then count how long it takes for him to get his computer into a state where he’s comfortable handing it over to you. If he passes it over immediately with his email and social media accounts still open, you’re likely to be in the clear. This is a man with nothing to hide.

If he spends thirty seconds meticulously logging out of his email and social media accounts before handing it to you, there might be something going on with him and trolling is definitely on the table. It’s 2014, after all. Men don’t just cheat on you and watch too much porn anymore. They also obsessively track down and harass people who are different from them in order to feel the fleeting sense of control and superiority that defines their particular version of masculinity.

Yes, clearly no one should ever have a sense of privacy and any man who is dating a woman should leave all of their private, personal things open for them to peruse at their leisure.

Try telling that to a woman, sometime.

And then finally:

[My husband] left the browser open on our laptop after he went to work this morning… I was disgusted at what I found. My husband is a troll. A really fucking nasty troll. He leaves horribly mean comments to all kinds of people. They're filled with racist slurs, awful insults… I was horrified. Completely horrified. My husband is a nice, gentle man who is supportive and kind. In our 9-year relationship, we've fought three times total. I never thought this is a behavior he would take part in.

Uh, so what? Maybe he's a nasty internet troll so that he can be the "nice, gentle man who is supportive and kind"? Some people play FPSes. Some people play GTA. Some people probably troll to relieve stress. And as long as you know that these aren't things he actually believes, why the hell should any of it matter?

Now, granted, if the stuff that he says online is how he actually feels and he's just been showing you what he thinks you want to see? You should probably leave his ass.

MockingDead · 2014-08-10T20:40:47+00:00

1) Sure. Family Guy dude? 2) Who? 3) All of them? 4) Nope. 5) Probably.

This sort of shit has got to stop. I don't mean postign these articles, but reading into every fuck-thing people like. Repeat after my tumblrina - sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

hhkirn · 2014-08-10T18:29:30+00:00

The comments are just as interesting. "Can't take a joke when the object is men." While calling family guy actually sexist. I'm not a huge fan of the show but the entire premise revolves around everything in it being a joke.

HSBrendan · 2014-08-10T18:44:14+00:00

Because only men can be trolls. And you're probably dating one.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2014-08-10T22:29:03+00:00

Your BF likes the first amendment? Run!!!

LeeryLucifer · 2014-08-11T07:34:56+00:00

Top signs your dating a raging cunt: Does she judge your personality based on her own hatred of Seth MacFarlane and her drooling love for Anita Sarkeesian?

Women like that are just terrible and I would never even try to date them. Why would I?

Riktrat · 2014-08-10T21:56:51+00:00

I do love the "Which Amendment is most important" part because all amendments are considered equivalently necessary and important. To try and pigeonhole a person into declaring one is more important than the other is to fundamentally misunderstand why such rules exist in the first place.

What good would the right to free speech be if the government could station soldiers in your house and you, nor the state government, had any capacity to stop them with the right to bear arms?

2014-08-10T23:11:48+00:00

She wrote something intentionally inciteful and therefore trolled. Since she's a troll she's responsible for harassment and making rape and death threats.

captainfantastyk · 2014-08-10T23:28:06+00:00

Apart from the Anita sarkeesian thing. The thing that bothered me most was Seth mcfarlane.

Like seriously? Is it that wrong to laugh at shit? And I may not agree with everything he does. But the man is talented.

cewubaaca · 2014-08-11T06:55:23+00:00

2) Sarkesian? You mean that feminist who thinks that of all the evil done to women in the world, like honour rapes and stoning for adultery, her time is most productively spent poring over harmless fun for the purposes of finding offence? Has she finished her series of videos yet? When did she get that money?

mrphilip11 · 2014-08-10T19:54:33+00:00

If you think freedom of speech is more important than abortion law, you're an Internet troll.

Bla34112 · 2014-08-11T00:35:52+00:00

Troll =/= someone you with a different opinion than you.

rocelot7 · 2014-08-11T01:27:43+00:00

As a troll I find this insulting.

Bla34112 · 2014-08-11T00:36:30+00:00

Yes, all trolls are men and never has there ever been a feminist harrassing anyone... ::rollseyes::

Arakin · 2014-08-11T02:32:38+00:00

I remember when internet blogs weren't filled with assholes.

thepizzapeople · 2014-08-11T04:20:22+00:00

Holy shit..... The comments....... I always check the comments on articles like this and I'm usually disappointed, but holy shit is this drivel being called out.

chocoboat · 2014-08-11T04:49:46+00:00

Holy shit. If someone thinks the First Amendment is important, they must be an internet troll?

It's been a while since I've seen stupidity of this level.

redgreenyellowblu · 2014-08-11T06:13:36+00:00

I don't have twitter or facebook and don't want to start, but maybe if someone does they can post this over at dailydot. It's an article about a study showing women are just as likely to troll each other, making rape threats while they pose as men, etc.:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2628755/Women-troll-online-How-females-just-likely-abused-sex-men.html

Koalachan · 2014-08-11T06:22:39+00:00

According to these questions, all but the last one anyway, I am a troll....

cewubaaca · 2014-08-11T06:50:55+00:00

1) Yeah, I think Family guy is funny. I think it's funny because funny things are funny regardless of whether some feminist academic has held a social studies faculty meeting to pore over a joke and torn it apart to remove all humour from it and analyse it in its historical social context so as to rule on whether it should be approved for laughter or legitimate reason to punish the person who found it funny. Oh yes, laughed at any jokes about Wayne Bobbit or dropping the soap in the prison shower recently?

cewubaaca · 2014-08-11T06:57:55+00:00

3) Not a yank myself, but I would say the first, because without that one none of the others are possible. Kapish?

cewubaaca · 2014-08-11T07:03:22+00:00

4) Knock yourself out, most of my emails are spam, the rest are work related, my comments on reddit and elsewhere can be provocative, but then they have to be to get an entertaining discussion with someone on the internet these days, the alternative is just to end up with fifty replies that say nothing more than, 'I disagree with you, but you have the right to your opinion, let's all just agree to disagree'. Boring!

Oh, and take a look at my porn, see how my sexual fantasies are so much more exciting than sex with you? Take what you like from that.

cewubaaca · 2014-08-11T07:21:42+00:00

5) Once, yes. Some little brat on Reddit was flinging around homophobic, sexist insults and decided to use them on me. Rather than whinge to everyone else about it being indicative of all teenagers being oppressors of delicate little me, I spent about a fortnight following him around on Reddit, correcting his grammar and spelling, and highlighting everything he said that indicated that he might be, or become, a worthless person.

I'm not sure it had the intended impact, but I enjoyed it, and if you live by the pen, be prepared to die by the pen.

I've been accused of harassment loads though. Usually this happens when I criticise a post by a feminist, using reason and verifiable facts. It usually comes after having made a sanguine post that undermines a threat narrative. The reply typically includes accusations of at least one or more of the following:

Rapist.
Rape promoter/apologist.
Harassment.
Misogyny.
Wife beater/domestic abuse apologist.
Stalking (usually only after a second reply)

I'm sure everyone here knows the script. My response tends to be to send the numbers for Police Emergency, Police Non-emergency and the National Crime Agency (British equivalent of the FBI). One of these days someone will end up with a charge for wasting police time! "Someone disagreed with me on the internet, you must arrest him to protect my fee fees".

Edit. Correcting autocorrect.

2014-08-11T09:38:15+00:00

Why do people even read newspapers anymore? They've been worthless ever since they all switched to the clickbait model.

jpflathead · 2014-08-10T23:15:16+00:00

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blueoak9 · 2014-08-11T00:24:51+00:00

I love the smell of desperation in the morning. It's the smell of their final collapse.

First they broadcast the MRM to the world with their Chicken Little damseling, and now they are spreading the word on Reddit.

under_score16 · 2014-08-11T00:57:28+00:00

it’s pretty clear that Internet harassment comes from actual human men.

Come again? Now only men are internet trolls? http://media2.teenormous.com/items/www.goodguycomics.com/130/media-0f-a20791812b026c02e7492a_m.jpg

ThePigmanAgain · 2014-08-11T01:25:36+00:00

Here's some more relationship advice...

"Does your woman read DailyDot.Com? If the answer is "yes," you need a new woman."

iNQpsMMlzAR9 · 2014-08-11T00:02:13+00:00

This article reads like it was written by a high-schooler trying to emulate Cosmopolitan.

Title	I have no words.
Author	FellKin
Upvotes	53
Comments	88
Date	August 10, 2014 6:10 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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