Left wingers don’t even acknowledge men’s problems.

TypicalNPC · 2025-09-07T08:03:00+00:00

The problem is that acknowledging men's problems would mean removing men as the villain in a lot of narratives. Some of these narratives are beneficial for entire industries, including our corrupt governments, which thrive on men and women being at constant odds with each other.

This, and the fact that removing men as the villain would remove the victim status of a ton of people, especially women. In our society, being a victim is a form of currency, and so obviously women wouldn't want to give that up.

In short:

Companies gain more money, status, and notoriety when pandering to women. Corrupt government officials remain in power with us divided, and men as the villain in our split society. Women gain special status, face zero accountability, and gain rewards on top of being "equal" to men, something that they've had since the beginning of time. And despite the constant bitching, don't wish to give up these privileges.

There is no benefit to acknowledging men's issues for anyone other than men, which means its basically a non factor in our society.

KalashnikovParty · 2025-09-07T09:55:44+00:00

I’m pretty economically left leaning too, and used to be a full blown leftist. I think people quickly forget that socialist ideals were the most popular in the last century amongst a lot of working class men, the ones who toiled the fields and worked dusk til dawn in a damp dirty factory. I don’t know how leftism and socialism turned into this woke virtue signalling oppression olympics it is today, but in self respect i cannot bring myself back to support a movement that hates me for no reason

shingaladaz · 2025-09-07T08:03:52+00:00

Agreed. Uber-left wing men actually side against themselves.

Spare_Freedom4339 · 2025-09-07T09:26:58+00:00

In short: She complains about not getting paid for working less.

He complains that he was mutilated without his consent and not protected like her.

And the left sides with her.

I don’t say this to demean women, I’d prefer we didn’t do that because it’s unproductive, but I say it to show clearly where the priorities of the left are.

Inch_High · 2025-09-07T13:11:56+00:00

It's no secret that modern society values women heavily over men as described in other comments going into detail about the effect of divorce on men, hiring practices that choose women over men, and a biased education system.

I just wanted to add that you'll never get concessions from these people. They've been raised from birth being told that they are perfect princesses and any issue at all in their life is their dad's fault, or a man's. That type of person is completely unable to commit to any introspection and will never, ever, have a "am I the bad person here" moment.

Be careful associating with these people, because the best you'll ever be is "one of the good ones" and they'll take that away at the faintest hint of wrong-thought

redditisfacist3 · 2025-09-07T08:14:45+00:00

Its why they lost the election badly.

karasis · 2025-09-07T08:07:00+00:00

Politics are cope and all sides hate ordinary man but the left is the worst of the worst. At this point any dude who follows them has Stockholm syndrome.

Perfect_Sir4820 · 2025-09-07T13:35:03+00:00

I don't know what you are seeing that leads you to believe this is a left vs right issue. Smh at how utterly gullible some of you people are letting propaganda divide working class people and keep the ruling class doing whatever the hell they like.

mrmensplights · 2025-09-07T14:49:43+00:00

They can't. The left got out of the individualistic equality game and into the identity politics game and when you do that you have no choice but to create a common enemy in order to build solidarity among the other groups. The left has made a scapegoat of men. Men represent the past. Men represent oppression. Men represent domination. Men represent patriarchy. Men represent privilege. Men represent hierarchy. Men represent exclusion. Men represent control.

By casting men as oppressors you create an 'us vs them' mentality. By casting other men as privileged you create an 'means justify the ends' mentality. The left uses these two principals to create a sense of righteous anger and then convert it into political action. This mania also has a spiritual dimension. In a process not dissimilar to a confession believers can exorcise their own evils by placing them onto men via a kind of transference. "Yes I did wrong but I live in a system of oppression so I'm justified. Yes I did evil but it was justified - this was punching up. No bad tactics only bad targets". In the final stage this turns into a kind of magic spell; where other groups transfer their very capacity for evil onto men and believe their own natures to be superior and cleaner to men. This has become a common belief about men and women today.

Now add feminism itself on top of this. A scripture that encodes men as the great evil ideologically with a unified narrative. One that condemns men with the original sin of a new era in order to control them with guilt, keeping them on a hamster wheel forever seeking an impossible redemption. Feminism is the well spring by which scapegoating of men becomes self sustaining.

So how can the left possibly turn around and tell their own to consider men? After more than a decade of telling them men are the enemy, of restructuring systems so men aren't considered, of funding causes that have anti-male outcomes, and suckling a religion that sees men as evil? That's like spending a decade, all your money, and all your resources on going to Venus and then telling your people that need to be at Mars tomorrow. This stuff is now in the foundations.

DiZzY_404 · 2025-09-07T12:04:24+00:00

The funniest thing is “the need of a left Joe Rogan for men” being passed around in the left bubble of the internet… They are straight up telling people there needs to be a men psyop…

Anything but understanding the problems at hand.

Subject-Storage4232 · 2025-09-07T09:05:18+00:00

This is why I am neither far left nor far right as a man.

The far right men want us to work ourselves to death or throw ourselves on the battlefield for the profit of the elite. And also, they love to call the younger generation of men 'weak'. Fuck your 'good old days'.

The far left men love to parade the male guilt trope in hopes of getting into women's pants. News flash male feminists, women still don't want your cuck ass.

A truly equitable society has to acknowledge both men and women as people and put justice before personal profit.

Wrong-Art5272 · 2025-09-07T13:51:18+00:00

Did you know that with domestic abuse woman are victims 1.46% more than men so not even double and yet 98-99% of the budget for DV is spent on woman.

Okay yeah woman are worse off in DV so lets look at mental health. The suicide rate is 3x higher for men and yet they only get 60% of the budget.

Ok_Night_7767 · 2025-09-07T14:45:07+00:00

She then proceeded to say “in honor of national women’s day we will do a jeopardy on women, because women deserves equal rights and much more than men”

She probably didn't even realize the contradiction in those words.

Mortalcouch · 2025-09-07T14:04:00+00:00

I used to be a pretty staunch right winger. It's become very clear, however, that they dont care about ME (US born white male). So now I dont know where that puts me, politically. Far right extremist? Probably in some aspects. Far left? Again, in some aspects.

Party loyalty is overrated. Left, right, nobody cares about men.

roystang · 2025-09-07T16:42:41+00:00

People in this sub are mistaking leftism with liberalism. Liberalism is still a capitalist right wing ideology.

dougpschyte · 2025-09-07T09:08:04+00:00

'Progressive' policies are a feature of female over-representation in the electorate, and are designed to IMPOSE FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE PREFERENCES.

The 'Patriarchy', which they go on and on and funking on about, is no more than man's (perfectly reasonable) wish for reassurance that his genes are in all of the children. Therefore, there was culturally and religiously imposed monogamy. Women accepted this social norm when the alternative was go out into the fields, down the mines, or into the steelworks.

Times are easier now, we have a service economy and (over-represented) female enfranchisement.

So, what happens? We have the National Association of Women Lawyers who fought tooth and nail for 'no fault' divorce. We have the male asset stripping which takes place in the Family Courts, allowing women to 'trade up' with cash & prizes. We have AA, EEO, ESG, DEI and other BS which advantages women in the workplace and removes jobs from men. The work of Roy F Baumeister on 'Sexual Economics' showed that a job was man's main trading card in the dating market. V C Wynne Edwards took it even further, saying that a job represented 'man's licence to breed'. All men beneath a woman's pay grade are invisible to her. 'Sexual Harassment' legislation keep them invisible by law. Quota placements for women place them in proximity with high value men, and her income allows her to be choosy for longer. And, 'progressive' welfare policies keep her safe should it all go wrong. And, she can abort her little 'mistakes'.

Feminism/left wing policies facilitate the destruction of the nuclear family. THIS is the 'Patriarchy' they seek to destroy.

https://www.azquotes.com/author/31156-Linda_Gordon

Then, they impose their own preferences. A carousel. 'Blended' fluid, fluxional 'families' which are metastable, and no-one is sure of how they 'relate' to who. Mommy doesn't care. HER genes are in all of the kids.

Mommy has a penchant for paternity fraud.

https://jme.bmj.com/content/33/8/475.abstract

http://empathygap.uk/?p=258

http://empathygap.uk/?p=1484

She doesn't reciprocate her expectations. The wicked stepmother became a meme for a reason.

TL;DR - vote left, vote for 'progressive' policies, designed for IMPOSITION of FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE PREFERENCES on the sly.

RealStarkey · 2025-09-08T04:40:16+00:00

The left has been dominated by feminists for decades

EnvironmentalRow996 · 2025-09-07T18:14:51+00:00

Both wings deperson men. Men aren't people. Hence no civil rights or empathy for their suffering. Men are only group this is net lifetime tax payer.

TheTinMenBlog · 2025-09-07T09:59:34+00:00

As a leftie too, I can relate.

aren3141 · 2025-09-07T08:51:32+00:00

If there were poor white people in 1850, how could anyone claim there was white supremacy?

random419 · 2025-09-07T18:02:39+00:00

I swear some women think that men get a check in the mail, box of cigars, bottle of whiskey, and a copy of "Patriarchy Monthly" rather then use just being generally good but flawed individuals.

Themannywillbe · 2025-09-07T17:40:22+00:00

Conservatives aren't our friends ether, often contribute to it

jackom86999 · 2025-09-07T08:10:22+00:00

I’m a right winger. But you can thank extreme feminism for that. Sure women had it worse in the day (no voting, barely any rights, had to rely on men) and it’s great how far women’s right have come, but it’s socially driven that men are worse then women. That drive is from the statistics of DV, sexual assault, etc and that’s just part, mostly men commit crimes too, so women are just naturally more afraid, but what feminism has done is exploit those facts to benefit their ideology of if it weren’t for women men don’t (put in whatever suits you), but it is partly true. And most left wing people including yourself I imagine are more into socialist norms, and bingo equality is one of those big things, so realistically it’s mainly because we have allowed the narrative to be so skewed in women’s favour, the leftie politicians, etc, just appease to those people to get there votes, and also liking ? Idk but hope that makes more sense now?

purpprofit · 2025-09-07T13:07:32+00:00

They’re much more understanding if you just say you identify as (anything but man) I go with Sea Sponge

blimps_yall · 2025-09-07T19:49:29+00:00

What you're seeing is the disconnect between "left wing" ideas and reality, the reason leftist ideas sound good on paper but fall apart when actually implemented is that they rely on fictional narratives about oppressors and power structures. This is why they're typically embraced by the very young, the very sheltered, and those whose work exists entirely in the creative/theoretical realm, whereas people tend to become more "right wing" the more their life and career demands that they think in terms of real measurable outcomes.

joelberg · 2025-09-07T20:20:36+00:00

Income inequality and lack of affordable Healthcare are my two biggest issues.

HiveMindKing · 2025-09-07T14:35:06+00:00

Until this changes I would happier to watch the world burn that support leftism. I am not just petty either, I have been denied medical care, passed over for scholarships, have had attempts To reach out for help and support shot down…

Watched all of my ability to be expressive and authentic without fear be slowly be slowly destroyed.

pearl_harbour1941 · 2025-09-07T15:12:46+00:00

I am still trying to put together a list of qualities that determine if someone can be predicted as left wing, but it seems to be largely these two things:

You get upset seeing suffering
You don't have any resources, and want more
- (possibly at other people's expense)

This sometimes (in my view, erroneously) gets translated as "you have a heart" and "you believe in equality". I have found that left-wingers only have a heart on paper, and only in situations where it doesn't disadvantage them personally (no offence meant). I was left wing, so I am drawing on my own personal experience here.

I was all in favor of the redistribution of other people's money to those who were less fortunate, but I got quite upset if I had to give up part of my minimum wage to achieve that.

I became less left wing (I am almost dead-center) when I had earned enough money by my own hard work to have to do something to protect it from being stripped away or stolen by others.

Women tend to be left-wing by default - they are biologically wired to take other people's (men's) resources and redistribute them to those less fortunate (other women and children). This is natural and normal, and ensures the survival of the tribe. Men go get the majority of resources, give those resources to the women, and the women distribute them (I used to have a scholarly source that illustrated this perfectly, but I can't find it right now).

What this translates to in practice is that women have a tilt towards voting for the person that redistributes the most resources to them or other women (side note: shifting society ever-further left until communism and eventually fascism get enacted, causing the downfall of society).

Moreover, women have a 5x stronger in-group bias towards other women, than men do towards either men or women, meaning that women side with other women almost exclusively. It's such a strong bias that women will tend to side with a female stranger who is demonstrably wrong, over and above their close male relatives (such as husband) who are demonstrably right, simply because "woman".

This means that women may see men's problems, but will automatically be tilted towards supporting other women's problems first, regardless of how severe the man's problems are. "Women are the primary victims of war" makes sense from this perspective. Men die, women are mildly inconvenienced by having to move away from a war zone, therefore women's problems are worse.

You should not be surprised that the Left do not acknowledge men's problems. They never will unless it benefits them directly.

Only-Guest9920 · 2025-09-08T00:45:26+00:00

getting sick of it mate. can't complain about my own problems and can't complain about problems women cause me.

Helloworldorsomethin · 2025-09-08T01:18:11+00:00

I've always been left wing as well, progressive views with a few conservative ones but still on the left spectrum of politics. I completely agree and empathize with your sentiment, it's very difficult.

I've been to protests and rallies, the amount of slander I've seen at these events toward men is repulsive. What I find ironic is that there are so many men at these events, gay, straight, whatever, and yet they still spew this hateful rhetoric. The left has many similar problems as the right does and they don't even see it, there is no room for nuance or intellectual discussion in today's society.

As I've gotten older I've come to realize I'm politically isolated, despite having left wing views I cannot associate with them. You can support all their causes and fights, but no one will fight for you unless you're a part of their marginalized groups or whom they deem to have struggles.

Treebeard said it best: "I am not altogether on anybody’s side, because nobody is altogether on my side."

PastDifficulty7 · 2025-09-07T19:01:52+00:00

That girls was an asshole. They exist in every movement. Women don’t deserve “more” rights, but their liberation looks different from male liberation.

Left wing politics cares about the liberation of men in all types of situations. Are you a racial minority? Are you a student with loans? Do you a union laborer? Men benefit tremendously from Left wing politics.

The right has always had the corner on being gatekeepers of masculinity and male politics. The left could do a lot better in speaking specifically about “Men’s issues”; not just about issues that affect men.

redshift739 · 2025-09-07T12:25:04+00:00

You might find r/leftwingmaleadvocates interesting

GarlicFalse3779 · 2025-09-07T09:16:52+00:00

It's boring but it follows the script, you have to have peace of mind to finish college

mnight75 · 2025-09-08T03:56:25+00:00

Here are my political leanings, I want the left to stay out of my wallet, and the right to stay out of my bedroom. For some reason neither party gets this so there are no middle of the road politicians I can really identify with, and this trend of polarization with every issue not just men is increasing.

Melancholicdiana · 2025-09-07T13:38:06+00:00

I know it's a men's sub and sorry for posting. Just wanted to point out that a good deal of the "men bad, women good" men, simply do it bc they are trying to be performative and get their hooks on the more naive bit of their social circle, the "men bad, women good" women, desparately looking for a counter-example! So those men you are pointing out are not an ally to you and not an ally to others, as well. There actually are parts of feminist literature dedicated to men (not as villains). Bell Hooks is an example, although there are way more works leaning towards a more general view of reality. It's just that... those intellectual-wannabes do not need to go for them and hence, the impression of such literature being non-existant. Since you are in college, I highly advise you to focus on your path as a person and try to understand yourself and your world and this might actually end up with you saying something that would help everyone. Literature of social justice is pretty young and it obviously is lacking in many areas; "Men" are one of those areas that need better understanding, since most of the existing literature on men are from elite men and written about them or their point of view. Not inclusive at all. Those people you've mentioned have their own issues which do not allign with yours. If they are not your people, do not push yourself in, but keep them besides you for what they, as people, can offer. As a side note from a person to person: I have my fair share of side-switching. Be wary of the leftovers from the past. Accept that we have been raised in a world that taught us hate and it is almost impossible to fully get rid of them. It might not even be necessary at times!

Sytraxo · 2025-09-07T22:54:13+00:00

r/leftwingmakeadvocates.

Former_Range_1730 · 2025-09-07T13:25:39+00:00

The Left are Feminists. Of course they don't care about hetero men in particular.

Hyphalex · 2025-09-07T12:55:44+00:00

the left be like: some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make

Futuredanish · 2025-09-07T18:57:37+00:00

Nothing will ever change until a tipping point of men wake up and realize left wing politics is death for them.

Humble-Zucchini-6237 · 2025-09-07T11:00:19+00:00

Become a centrist

Aesop557 · 2025-09-07T08:03:16+00:00

Like all ideologues

armadillocan · 2025-09-07T07:54:31+00:00

Check out Scott Galloway hes left wing and is looking to help men.

WoodpeckerCapital167 · 2025-09-07T11:57:57+00:00

Smart, to be part of something that hate you thoroughly.

lol

AreSwordfishEvenReal · 2025-09-07T11:45:49+00:00

Yeah I voted for Kamala and am not sure where my vote will go in the future. I am still aligned with the left on the vast majority of issues, but I can't keep voting primarily for others without taking myself into consideration. I might just not vote in the midterms if I'm still confused.

happymonkey0123 · 2025-09-08T02:05:11+00:00

Super lefty guy here and I TOTALLY acknowledge men’s problems. I’m living all of them every day. Right there with you.

shongage · 2025-09-07T11:15:44+00:00

I'm on the left. The problem is most other people on the left are treating the 'patriarchy' (men) as the villain, when in reality the villain is capitalism. I suspect this has been done on purpose through propaganda to stop another french revolution from happening.

the_1st_inductionist · 2025-09-07T07:57:57+00:00

Men’s problems are problems men face in pursuing their self-interest. Left wingers are generally opposed to self-interest in politics. They’re only fine with helping the needier or oppressed stand up for themselves.

Title	Left wingers don’t even acknowledge men’s problems.
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Date	September 7, 2025 7:49 AM UTC (10 months ago)
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