Point out that men commit suicide more often than women? You're obviously a basement dweller who thinks all women belong in the kitchen.

chillmonkey88 · 2016-05-25T13:14:51+00:00

I see you're making points... but ad hominem and don't believe everything on tumblr and be so emotional. You sound like a (group affiliation) so your points never mattered in the first place.

Check your privelege!

xProperlyBakedx · 2016-05-25T14:17:28+00:00

I don't like the facts and opinions you have shared here. You are obviously a fat neck beard loser. God I am so much more mature than you....

Feminist delusion at it's best.

Nulono · 2016-05-25T16:03:36+00:00

Is Red seriously arguing that homeless women having an easier time finding a friend's couch to crash on makes them less privileged‽

Whisper · 2016-05-25T17:53:01+00:00

Evidently, "Male Tears" are really high in calories.

Vandechoz · 2016-05-25T16:46:49+00:00

This is feminism.

Azothlike · 2016-05-25T17:44:12+00:00

I love the "women attempt suicide more" sidestep.

So easy to shut down. Accurate Attempted Suicide statistics don't exist. Both medical and law enforcement statistics routinely include simple self harm and parasuicidal behavior in their "attempted suicide statistics", both of which are demonstrably not attempts at suicide.

nuesuh · 2016-05-25T15:18:06+00:00

"it would be nice we didn't have to justify the things we say".

lol. Poor womyn, having to present evidence for claims.

Golnarth · 2016-05-25T17:50:59+00:00

Wait is MGTOW an insult now? So not giving into women's bullshit is somehow a weakness?

Chickenthang47 · 2016-05-25T14:32:53+00:00

Tumblr and this generation of millennial feminists who use it are drastically changing the Western world.

Let's hope they don't cause the collapse of our societies and others; as in they decrease the male population, and years down the line they complain that there aren't enough men in the world to do everything for them.

As always, only time and data will tell.

smooth-move-ferguson · 2016-05-25T17:26:44+00:00

The last line says it all. They threw out a conversation stopping buzz word. mgtow, mra, gater... all words used to easily categorize dissenting opinion and easily dismiss.

ulpisen · 2016-05-25T18:22:34+00:00

okay, so from a philosophical perspective, the whole "women are afraid to walk home at night"/"women are told to be afraid walking home at night" are an interesting problem. considering that in general the risk of being attacked is rather small, it seems that the actual solution to this problem would be to convince women that they are reasonably safe.

if you for example take the hypothetical scenario of a person being afraid of being attacked by a bear walking home (living in a pretty rural area) the best solution to this would surely be to look at just how rare those attacks are, rather than trying to equip the person to fight off a bear that most likely will never show up.

a big part of the problem is that people are very emotional when it comes to the subject and saying something like "you'll most likely never be assaulted" is considered very offensive and will be met with responses like "tell that to all the rape victims" or "even a small chance of something horrible can be enough to make you scared every night" etc.

in the end I don't really know how to best solve this problem but on one hand, statistics like that seem to go down over time so it'll hopefully just get better, on the other hand what we can all pitch in and do is to try to call people out for fear mongering and point out that not only are they making the problem worse but they are the cause of 99% of the problem

JRPGFan · 2016-05-25T13:35:12+00:00

I can't follow the conversation very well with the names blacked out but it seems like at one point you agreed that women are oppressed, they are not. Western women are the most privileged class in history.

ExpendableOne · 2016-05-25T16:44:47+00:00

Men have to carry themselves with confidence, otherwise they are virtually invisible, easily discarded, viewed as disposable, deemed to be illegitimate by the greater majority of the female population(if not also completely eliminating them from any future gene pool) and/or belittled and berated as being "beta", "weak", "meek" or "unmasculine".

Also, fuck this sign and the person who made it. Who are you to call these men "mediocre"? Talk about fucking conceited. And, maybe, a lot of those white men carry themselves with confidence because they see themselves as having value and being people worthy of love and respect.

dominotw · 2016-05-25T14:22:26+00:00

well.. that went as expected.

ShalamiTsunami · 2016-05-25T15:02:48+00:00

Wow that was so frustrating to read. Every argument with feminists seems to go this exact same way too, I don't think I've ever had a reasonable discussion with a feminist that didn't devolve into shit like this. Its probably because they know that they can't defend their arguments with facts, so instead they just start randomly attacking and trying to discredit you rather than addressing your points.

Scarbane · 2016-05-25T11:54:57+00:00

Jesus, what a self-righteous cunt.

TacoNinjaSkills · 2016-05-25T16:51:18+00:00

Women are taught to be constantly fearful and vigilant..

BY WHOM? COULD IT BE FEMINISTS AND THEIR FALSE NARRATIVES?

TheDude41 · 2016-05-25T18:28:57+00:00

You did a good job.

Fwob · 2016-05-25T19:41:07+00:00

"Oh, because im a woman, you probably think I spend all my time in the kitchen! How offensive!? YOU'RE A WHITE MAN, GO BACK TO YOUR MOM'S BASEMENT!!"

Satansyngel · 2016-05-25T22:16:05+00:00

>2016
>arguing with feminazis
>expecting rational discussion

infiniteslinky · 2016-05-25T16:52:08+00:00

I am a mediocre white man and I wish I carried myself with the confidence of a black woman. I would be in charge.

JakeDC · 2016-05-25T17:39:02+00:00

I am a feminist. Name calling = argument. Also, shitlord.

Imnotmrabut · 2016-05-25T20:58:29+00:00

But it's Just "Ironic Misandry" and no feminists were hurt from the sling shots of outrageous farcebooking! /S

And lets not forget, the Irish Feminist Network is in fact just a solitary single lady living in Lisdoonvarna, and she's pissed cos her landlord won't let her have cats.

Nydusurmainus · 2016-05-25T22:19:41+00:00

I hope someone can answer this but how is manspreading A) actually a thing? and B) making women fearful in public places? They do know we have a dick and balls between our legs right? and that it is actually physically uncomfortable or even painful sometimes to sit with your knees together. boggles my mind

DashRiprockIII · 2016-05-25T22:41:03+00:00

Near the end she says ‘women attempt suicide more often than men.’ I always think the best comeback to that is to quote Warren Farrell when he said that when women attempt suicide there is still hope but when men attempt suicide there is no hope. And “Women attempt suicide more often because they want to become the priority of those they love rather than always prioritizing them” Whereas men don’t complain to the world they just get on with it.

Well done, good discussion, great job.

2016-05-25T14:51:54+00:00

And these people wonder why everyone hates them.

mikazee · 2016-05-25T19:42:41+00:00

"I'd like to live in a world where showing emotion isn't seen as a weak or feminine thing"

Yes because females are the true victims of male suicide.

treyokay · 2016-05-25T19:44:33+00:00

Needbouttreefiddy · 2016-05-25T19:45:45+00:00

This generation is truly doomed. My grandfather/WW II vet is rolling in his grave with the shit going on now.

Blutarg · 2016-05-25T22:59:10+00:00

Black kcks ass!

Xelipho · 2016-05-25T23:57:57+00:00

Feminists: "We need a man's confidence, women are scared to walk around at night!"

Society: "Okay, well here's some self defense lessons."

Feminists: "How is that gonna help us!!! Most women are scared because of what society teaches young girls in school, even if it doesn't happen that often."

Society: "Okay we'll tell young girls that they have little to worry about."

Feminists: "BUT RAPE CULTURE EXISTS, THOUGH, IT HAPPENS SUPER OFTEN"

Society: Well nothing to do but bend to the whim of everything you say.

creamyfrog · 2016-05-26T02:00:03+00:00

I just shut off when I see the word man-spreading.

Vanriel · 2016-05-26T07:37:55+00:00

Well I would say I am shocked...but I'm really not. It still makes me laugh seeing how deluded some people are refusing to even consider that their point of view may be wrong when presented with facts and the studies that back it up.

franklindeer · 2016-05-26T08:09:19+00:00

Accusing your opponent of being angry or riled up is such an irritating tactic, not to mention that even if there were anger involved, anger doesn't invalidate an argument.

outhouse_steakhouse · 2016-05-26T15:00:31+00:00

Apart from anything else, why do they always have to drag race into everything?

m4dz3r · 2016-05-25T15:04:14+00:00

Jesus fuck I didn't the crazies existed in Ireland

wrekd · 2016-05-25T16:58:47+00:00

This is a lower quality post. It might be fine for new people just opening their eyes, but for people who have been around the block, this just adds noise to the signal. Nothing talked about was unexpected. Nothing new was learned. It's about as informative as a meme.

___Jamie___ · 2016-05-25T15:07:32+00:00

Man you have the mental durability of an elephant. I would've just given up after the first few pics. They are waaaaaaay too frustrating to talk to

Arby01 · 2016-05-25T16:29:25+00:00

I love that:

But you didn't ignore me?

I meant that I was about to.

Lolololol.

orangorilla · 2016-05-25T18:02:48+00:00

Okay, who works as a cyclist?

What the actual hell?

You mean like an athlete? Or more in a bicycle tester fashion? I can not get past that point.

Proteus_Marius · 2016-05-25T18:26:52+00:00

Unstructured debates on social media between ill prepared and edgy sides should be expected to go bad sooner or later.

I don't see how posting this stuff helps anyone, though.

ohbaybee · 2016-05-25T21:37:31+00:00

I'm in love with this man

Jakedubbleya · 2016-05-25T20:47:45+00:00

"I'm sorry, were you saying something stranger? Because ad hominem ad hominem ad hominem ad hominem ad hominem ad hominem ad hominema d hominem lol, ad hominem."

666Evo · 2016-05-25T22:02:18+00:00

Carry yourself with the confidence of a mediocre white man.

I wonder how well it would go down if you said something along the lines of, "We have that confidence because we know we're bigger and stronger than you, and despite a complete lack of coordination we've managed to systematically "oppress" you for millennia."

I'm assuming not well hahaha

MMABouncer · 2016-05-25T22:17:35+00:00

These bitches got REKT......

TheCheesy · 2016-05-26T00:37:37+00:00

They are in a bubble and you came in speaking aggressively against their opinion, I'd understand their logical frustration with that situation.

It's just petty humor, I believe they'd cringe over the tumblr feminist nonsense too, but you may have just came off as ignorant sharing it.

Not agreeing with all that, but you came off as someone looking to start drama in that situation. I don't agree with them either, I just don't want /r/mensrights to look so cheap.

double-happiness · 2016-05-26T10:30:39+00:00

I would like to live in a world where showing emotion wasn't viewed as a weak or feminine thing [for men].

Is that really true? I think there are quite a few postive dramatic and fictional portrayals of various male emotions. Usually when a man gets 'choked up' in a film or TV drama it's shown as a good thing. I suppose the classic scene along those lines would be marlon brando in a streetcar named desire, which isn't exactly a very positive characterisation, but if you look at the emotional sides of more recent male drama lead characters such as Tony Soprano and Walter White, I think the mainstream film and TV presentation of 'male tears' is quite un-macho.

Nima77 · 2016-05-26T19:04:09+00:00

I know I shouldn't let it get to me but this makes my blood boil.

samsc2 · 2016-05-25T16:19:23+00:00

You have asshole friends.

Eye_of_the_strum · 2016-05-25T16:40:44+00:00

Does anyone have the link to that Tumblr page?

real-boethius · 2016-05-25T14:46:55+00:00

It is better to ridicule and laugh at their BS than to take them seriously. Check out how Trump handles people like this.

killerbake · 2016-05-25T22:02:19+00:00

Manspreading... This is what it feels like to sit tight ladies.

Batman is my balls and those walls? They represent my thighs.

Title	Point out that men commit suicide more often than women? You're obviously a basement dweller who thinks all women belong in the kitchen.
Author	Folamh3
Upvotes	817
Comments	149
Date	May 25, 2016 11:07 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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