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Two NYC men arrested and charged with "man spreading"

roberttylerlee

May 28, 2015
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Title Two NYC men arrested and charged with "man spreading"
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roberttylerlee

Upvotes 409
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Date May 28, 2015 3:46 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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I just had to read June Kilbournes"Two Ways A Woman Can Get Hurt: Violence and Advertising" for my English class. My thoughts:

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[–]DavidByron2 157 points158 points159 points 11 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Two Latino men arrested for "manspreading".

This article is more broadly about the police racket of arresting and re-arresting minorities and the poor (mostly men of course) on trumped up charges. "Manspreading" now being seen as fair game because of feminist lobbying.

Let's be clear: all these attacks on men's civil rights by feminists hurt minority men the most because the people at the bottom of the heap are always the first fucked over by corruption and prejudice.

Judge throws it out -- sort of. But the charge is completely false (they were arrested around midnight when the tube was mostly empty so no by law says you can't take up two seats if you want to). They were let go eventually but told that if they get fake arrested for some other shit again this illegal charge will come back too.

Feminists lobbying attacks minorities. Their pretense at caring about other forms of prejudice are as bullshit as the pretense to care about sex equality.

[–]Man-jusri 45 points46 points47 points 11 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Feminist lobbying does indeed disproportionately impact minorities. Overcriminalization has this effect, generally, and feminist crusades only make things worse. Draconian child support laws are perhaps the most egregious example. Most of the 250-400 thousand men incarcerated every year for nonpayment of CS are poor and black. Edit: In the US.

[–]DavidByron2 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah someone was saying "CS is the new Jim Crow" in an article on it.

[–]Dak3wlguy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Would love a source for this.

[–]jb_trp 18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is spot on. Laws against catcalling and the like are predominantly going to be used against disadvantaged people like the poor, homeless, and minorities. When you watch the famous 10 hour catcalling video, almost all the "catcalls" are from the same poor neighborhood in New York, and almost all the men are black.

I'd love to see a 10 hours video of a woman walking around in a predominantly white suburban town in the midwest. It would probably very boring. She might get honked at once by a couple high school kids in their dad's SUV though.

[–]Gilthanass 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yep, feminism is about mainly white, upper-middle class women desperately wanting to feel oppressed so they lobby for laws that unfairly target members of actually disadvantaged communities while believing they are going after the "big bad white man".

[–]jb_trp 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's crazy too, with how much SJWs "align" themselves with other oppressed groups against the dreaded CIS-WHITE-MALE, you'd think they'd understand this more clearly. I'm beginning to understand more and more that Feminism isn't about equality, but the furthering of privilege for upper-middle class college-educated white women--who are already perhaps one of the most privileged classes in human history.

[–]leftajar 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Did I miss some bullshit anti-manspreading law? What "law" were they arrested for violating?

[–]DavidByron2 13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This would be another example:

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/undercover-cops-arresting-men-touching-urinating-public-bathrooms/

[–]BioGenx2b 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus Titty-Fucking Christ, that's so clearly a racket! Stop & Frisk wasn't enough, I guess.

[–]DavidByron2 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It would be a by-law of the transit authority. Like the existing rule that says don't put your feet on the seats. You can get arrested for these trivial infractions ---- if you're male and non-white that is. The cops have a policy of harassing such people using laws like that.

Now in this case the by-law in question is that you shouldn't inconvenience other passengers or stop the train working by taking up many seats. Since at the time of the arrest (as the judge noted) the cars would be almost empty, they did not violate the by-law even in a trivial manner.

But the point is that the cops felt emboldened to falsely arrest men for this shit because of the fuss feminists have made over it.

[–]farkface 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Does this mean we can start arresting women for putting sweaty bare feet all over the seats next to them because I see it all the time and it is worse than supposed manspreading.

[–]DavidByron2 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I doubt it.

[–]Bonerdramamama 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From the article:

a young white woman charged with foot on a subway seat

[–]Yearoftheboomerang 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can get ticketed for those offenses, but generally the only reason you'd be arrested if you have a warrant out for your arrest. That's why the guy's in article were arrested. It's still absolutely insane that you can even be ticketed for how you so on an empty train.

[–]DavidByron2 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see. Just like only black people had to take the literacy test to vote. Because obviously they were in a suspect class.

[–]Yearoftheboomerang 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, they weren't arrested because of the "manspreading". They were arrested because of outstanding warrants. At most they would have been issued a ticket had they not had warrants for their arrest.

Still absolutely INSANE to ticket someone for how they sit on an empty train. Absolutely insane.

[–]dungone 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Article mentioned there were 1.2 million outstanding warrants in the city. Why would cops need to make up even more trumped up charges just to arrest someone?

It seems to me that it's far easier to haul in a couple of minority guys for "manspreading" than it is to bring in some slumlord for violating building codes that actually put poor people's lives at risk. There's absolutely no perspective here. Seems like a quota system is rewarding cops who go after low hanging fruit rather than for doing the extra legwork to go after something that would actually make the city a better place to live.

[–]DavidByron2 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a specifically racial targeting strategy of course.

[–]IcarusBurning -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's funny that she said the train was probably empty because that's usually NOT the case at that time of night.

[–]realsbeforefeels 52 points53 points54 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

'Man spreading' can't seriously be a charge surely? I feel like I've wandered into /r/nottheonion

[–]beleriand 18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

you mean /r/theonion

[+]WolfeBane84 -8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

so... /r/democratwetdream then?

[–]expert02 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Republitard.

[+]WolfeBane84 -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that doesn't work. Libtard works, rolls off the tongue.

[–]SteelCrossx 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"The two men had outstanding warrants for other Broken Windows charges, namely, being in a park after closing and public urination..."

[–]therealmasculistman 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They sound like public enemy number one./s

[–]superAL1394 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't believe the law is called manspreading, but 'taking up excessive space', including lying on the seats, putting bags on the seats, etc. is technically not allowed, and very frowned upon by other new yorkers.

The long and short of the rule is the subways are crowded, don't be a douche.

[–]Cosmic_Shinobi 25 points26 points27 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh sweet, are they arresting the obese yet? Cause nobody takes more space than the obese.

[–]pancreasgirl 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

good point, i'm constantly having fat spilling over my armrest on flights into my personal space.. when can that be an actual issue?

[–]therealmasculistman 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

don't be a douche.

Don't be a misandrist either.

[–]expert02 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

don't be a douche when you're taking up excessive space in the middle of the night when there's almost no one else on the subway.

FTFY.

[–]HalfysReddit 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We get that it's a shitty thing to do, but what's the actual crime? The actual charge being brought against them?

"Manspreading" is not a crime.

[–]Yearoftheboomerang 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not an arrestable offence, but it's apparently something you can get a ticket for on the subway. The guys in the article were arrested because they had warrants out for their arrest.

[–]General_Fear 64 points65 points66 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Selective enforcement.

How many times have I seen women seat in one seat and put their purse or bags in the seat next to her.

Are the police going after them? I don't think so.

[–]fashanoo 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In the article, I woman at 2.30am was held for 5 hours for having a foot on a seat (in an otherwise empty car). Despite its origins, everyone looks to be unreasonably affected by it.

[–]General_Fear 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right. They will have to arrest a few women otherwise they are going to face a class action lawsuit.

But believe me, they are going after men. That is why this law is called MANspreading. Not PeopleSpreading.

[–]remembz 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

archive.is link

Gothamist campaigned vehemently against "manspreading". Now they are unhappy.

Disgusting, disgraceful, and despicable.

[+]therealmasculistman -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Bitches are never happy.

[–]expert02 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Get lost, feminist troll.

[–]therealmasculistman -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Compared to me you're the feminist troll so get lost.

[–]elebrin 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So already there's this situation where men can't be alone with young women for fear of being accused of being a pedophile. I wonder how long it will be before men just won't be comfortable on public transit due to fear of being arrested for their posture?

And to top it off, there will be all sorts of articles out there about "Men are holding back progress about climate change by refusing to use public transit. What should be done?"

[–]dangerousopinions 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They'll just add women only train cars which already exist in a surprising number of places.

[+]Ransom_Stoddard 11 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

While still allowing women to use the other unisex cars, like they do to mens bathrooms when they turn them into unisex bathrooms.

[–]dangerousopinions 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh yes of course, they would never let their sexism negatively impact women in the process.

[–]shorty1988m 38 points39 points40 points 11 years ago (74 children) | Copy Link

So do fat people get arrested for taking up to much seat space?

And what the hell happened to just asking people to move?

[–]farkface 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No you see you can't ask men to move because men are doing this specifically to oppress and dominte women and put them in their place. That is what feminists actually believe

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[–]IcarusBurning 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's an implied "/s" here, right?

[–]TehJohnny 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (68 children) | Copy Link

What about those who are fat because they are disabled and can't handle the walking?

[–]CORNDOGCOMMANDO 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Wow I can't Fucking believe you have down votes, we fight for men who work them selves in to disability but hey there are no Fucking services for men.

I work with disabled people and the biggest problem is for men that have worked their entire lives you eat a lot. But once your disabled you still eat just the same out of habit.

There's only one gym for disabled people that I know of and getting their via bus or dial a ride is Tough. You want a healthier population then keep them informed but punishing without educating is not going to solve th he problem.

You have a problem with fat people keep that hate in /fatpeoplehate that hate is getting out of hand.

[–]TehJohnny -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Meh, I've started to expect these kinds of attitudes, especially in this subreddit, I always enjoyed reading stories about fathers and their kids and how the people in this subreddit and MRAs have helped them through their struggles, but lately this place (and most of reddit) has been a cesspool of intolerance. I just always find it hilarious how people say the MR movement is an egalitarian movement and then they shit all over women (and I guess fat people!) all day. Heck, wouldn't teaching men that eating salads and healthy foods "isn't gay" and it is okay to eat healthy, "EAT MEAT AND POTATOES FAGGOT!" is all I got while growing up... >> sigh.

[–]sudo_rm_onering 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Aaaand, now you're being downvoted. This sub has become really just toxic in general. Groupthink is getting almost as bad as some of the subs decried here. Which is too bad, because there really are important issues covered here that you don't often see elsewhere.

I hope, for the sake of Mens Rights gaining mainstream attention, the sub takes measures to clean itself up a bit... because if I, someone who has sympathies for the group and wants to see it meet its goals, is getting turned off by the kind of bile that's now pretty common here, you've got no chance with the mainstream. Zilch. And you can be right as you want, but if you can't convince others, you'll accomplish nothing.

Personally, gonna unsub after this one. I'll check back in a few months with the hope that things get a little less toxic. Best of luck.

[–]TehJohnny0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, I come and go, hoping it gets better, but it just gets worse, I'm not really worried about my fake internet points so the downvotes don't bother me, they're kind of making my point for me, no one wants to talk about real issues or do any kind of self reflection, it is always just more "random insignificant feminist blogger said bad things about men!" spam shit posts.

As someone who grew up without a father, I thought the MR stuff would be something I liked, I don't want to see kids grow up without their fathers and I admire men who want to take part in their children's lives, not bitch about hating women (and I guess fat people!) :P

[–]BlackMRA-edtastic1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Give me a break with the hating women nonsense. Women get far more respect from MRAs than they do in the general population or men from feminists. The egalitarian issue I see are the inability to take minoritiy men's issues seriously. You have a large movement to reform criminal justice with our 93.3% male prison population but it's a back burner issue for the men's movement along with police using excessive force that sent people to the streets in the tens of thousands around the country. Were MRAs pushing that movement? Nope it was mostly feminists who did the organizing. The MRM needs to stop acting like the Republican party building a base out of white male frustration. All men matter.

[–]soalone340 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I've been noticing this sub deteriorating some what as well. I saw a comment complaining about how men go to space and do the work and women follow that had 3 up votes. I also saw upvoted posts reposting from theredpill and linking to ROK. ROK is the misogynist site that originally started the whole mad max ordeal that the media attempted to pin on MRA's.

[–]percocet_201 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I thought mods were policing the shitty red pill posts?

[–]TehJohnny-1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

linking to ROK. ROK is the misogynist site that originally started the whole mad max ordeal that the media attempted to pin on MRA's.

/cringe

[–]soalone341 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Are you saying it's not a misogynist site?

[–]TehJohnny1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No. The whole fake outrage stuff was cringy.

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[–]HalfysReddit 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The second comment was better.

[–]urban_flora 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (54 children) | Copy Link

maybe they should realize they cant walk and tone down their diet a bit

[–]TehJohnny 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (51 children) | Copy Link

Check you people out. How can you simultaneously champion the rights of one people while shitting on other groups of people. Egalitarian indeed.

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[–]sudo_rm_onering0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

/r/im14andthisisfunny

[–]expert020 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Found the douchebag!

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[–]ImNotIntoPokemon12 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Nah I agree with him. That kind of shit doesn't belong here. You brought up a valid point originally, don't push it.

[–]soalone342 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

MRA is slowly bleeding into TRP and fatpeoplehate.

[–]shorty1988m-1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Actually I think it does. The attitude of people who eat themselves into a disability and claim ignorance is a similar thought process to feminists who put their fingers in their ears and ignore facts.

[–]ImNotIntoPokemon7 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I don't think so, and you're vastly over generalizing. For starters, many people are disabled first and then put on weight - I put on 20 lbs just with a temporary disability (two torn tendons in left ankle after a fall at work.) I could easily see how a sudden, lengthy, and high reduction in activity could cause someone weight problems.

Then there's mental "disabilities" such as depression, which can cause people to just not give a fuck.

Both of the above are very common problems for men, and reducing it to saying it's merely a lifestyle choice is ignorant and helps nobody.

I'm not defending the "lifestyle" of being obese in any way or saying people are not responsible for themselves, far from it. Those statements were just ignorant, that's all.

You want a comparison to feminism? How about labeling an entire group of people, many of whom have problems, as a population viewed as less than fully human and only a blight on society? Sound familiar?

[–]666Evo0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Did you eat less when you got injured to adjust for not moving as much?

[–]ImNotIntoPokemon1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I suppose I could've eaten even less than I already was, yes. I was on medication that required I not take it on an empty stomach, so I had to eat something. As it was, I was nauseated from it because I wasn't eating enough. I don't know how much you think somebody who can't even walk to fix their own food and whose income was effectively halved for six months eats, but I can tell you it's not much.

[–]666Evo0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

So you ate less than prior to the injury, yet still put on weight?
You didn't reduce your intake enough.

Edit: Ahhh, so you edit your comments after I've already replied and then accuse me of not reading correctly. Nice try.

[–]ImNotIntoPokemon1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Obviously. Habits are hard to completely break. I went from ball-breaking physical activity daily (I work for UPS) to Sloth.

[–]666Evo0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

So... what you're saying is, you ate more than you should have given your reduced lack of activity which resulted in putting on weight?

You acknowledge that it was your own fault yet rip on a group of people for saying it was your own fault? Interesting.

[–]ImNotIntoPokemon0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What's interesting is that you drew that conclusion without reading a single thing I've said previously.

I find it fascinating how self-righteous people can get about correcting somebody else's mistakes which are only apparent when viewed in hindsight. Contact Trey Parker and Matt Stone; Captain Hindsight is a real person.

Obviously I should've contacted my worker's compensation people about hiring me a dietitian to balance my diet for my sudden and severe reduction in physical activity. That way I could've heard them laugh at me over the phone.

[–]666Evo1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Drew which conclusion? The only one I could possibly draw from our conversation so far? That you admit you ate too much during your injury?

There's no hindsight here. You move less, you should eat less. It's simple. I weigh 230lbs. I don't move enough for the amount of food I eat. I could stand to lose 30lbs but I like food too much and don't have an affinity for a lot of movement so I live with it. If my already sedentary lifestyle was suddenly even more sedentary, I'd be forced to reduce my intake.
This is not a difficult thing for an intelligent human being to comprehend. You got fat because you ate too much. No dietician needed. Eat less food overall or either lower carbs or lower fat.

Edit: Don't change your comment and then accuse me of not reading what you've written. Not that your edit makes me change my opinion in any way at all. Heard of vegetables? Eat a bowl of them and then take your medication.

[–]Endless_Summer-3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Disabilities don't cause weight gain, only overeating. If calories in are greater than calories out, you gain weight. Physically disabled? Eat less.

Fuck your fat logic.

[–]ImNotIntoPokemon1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Such a constructive way to talk. I can safely disregard your opinion.

I wasn't defending obesity. It's a severe epidemic. More like "fat shaming doesn't help people, don't be a dick" and "you're acting really ignorant, educate yourself." I'd say the same thing to anyone with an unhealthy habit: It's a lot harder than simply accepting the advice of "stop that".

We already went over the facts. Facts don't help people break out of deeply ingrained habits. The "advice" you guys are giving is like telling a drug addict "just stop using drugs".

[–]expert020 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Fuck your entire life, you worthless piece of shit.

[–]Endless_Summer0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Lol

[+]Endless_Summer -8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago* (22 children) | Copy Link

Because obese people are a cancer and a drain to society and it's all based on life choices. Egalitarianism does not support gluttony and laziness.

Downvoting the truth doesn't make it go away. Obesity kills. Obesity affects others. I pay $500-1000 more a year in health insurance. Telling younger generations that obesity is healthy is heinous and far more disgusting than shaming a fatty.

The fact that this truth is downvoted so hard says a lot about the people here...

[–]PacoBedejo4 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

It's based on what we've been taught & subsidized to eat. I made it up to 335 lbs before finding /r/keto

Since February, I've dropped 30 lbs with no exercise. I've simply changed what I eat. Not even how much...just WHAT I eat. Instead of whole grain cereal, bread, pasta, fresh fruit, and low fat...I eat about 2600 calories of fatty meats and vegetables prepared in lard. My skin has cleared up, I feel at least twice as good as I used to, I can think more clearly, and I'm losing weight.

So, go ahead & be a giant asshole about it...but know that almost every obese person you know has tried "eating right" based on what they've been taught...but that eating a ton of carbohydrates (as per instructions) is a huge problem for many people.

[–]996392 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If you ate an appropriate amount of calories each day it wouldn't matter if you had a normal proportion of carbs.

[–]PacoBedejo0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, it does matter. Insulin and ketones operate differently. Do some reading instead of trying to oversimplify something about which you're clearly ignorant.

[–]Endless_Summer1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No, he's right and you're wrong. It's all physics, chemistry and biology, not your feels or opinions that control weight loss and gain.

[–]PacoBedejo0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The whole "your body is a furnace" thing is a very oversimplified, inaccurate way of looking at it. If my body is used to processing lots of carbohydrates with lots of insulin and almost immediately storing any of that energy for which my muscles aren't currently asking for, I get fat from <1500 calories per day. If I get my body used to processing lots of fats using lots of ketones, my body is able to perform a "free exchange" of energy from both what I eat and from my stores of bodyfat.

http://www.ruled.me/ketosis-ketones-and-how-it-works/

My wife used to eat only about 800 calories each day; mostly so-called "heathy carbs". She gained & gained weight this way, eventually reaching 330 lbs @ 5'-4". Since we started eating a high-fat, low-carb diet, she's doubled her caloric intake to 1600 calories per day and has lost almost 45 lbs since February w/out exercise.

Again, most of the fat people you know have likely tried in earnest to lose weight, but did so based on the same calorie-reduction oversimplification you're espousing. High-carb diets are what farmers use to fatten livestock, yet people like you continue to insist that a high-carb diet is fine as long as you don't eat too much...which is pure bullshit.

[–]Endless_Summer1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

which is pure bullshit.

That's a nice summary of your entire comment.

[–]PacoBedejo-1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Wow...wish I would have realized sooner that you're just a childish fucking troll. Hopefully someone else can benefit from what I took the time to type.

[–]Endless_Summer1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm a troll? Because I know your wife didn't balloon up to 330 pounds on 800 calories a day? That's just called using common sense.

Your entire anecdotal comment is contrary to medical facts and the laws of physics, so of course I'm going to call you out for being full of shit.

Your source is a blog not a scientific study. Anyone who payed attention in high school science knows your lying. But call me a troll.

[–]996390 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I wasn't referring to the very specific case of a type 1 diabetic in ketoacidosis. You either chose to use a disingenuous example to support a false statement or your simply don't understand the topic as well as you think. I understand this topic very well and your quick dismissive attitude reflects only your own insecurity about your lack of real understanding when challenged.

Maybe if you spent a little time reading you would know insulin is a hormone facilitating the manipulation of carbohydrates and other energy sources and ketones are endogenous molecules of last resort used to fuel the brain and other critical organs in times of extreme carbohydrate deprivation. This state is so extreme it can be fatal and is a medical emergency. Do you actually have any medical training or are you just some arrogant twat with a degree in new age bullshit nutrition from tumblr University?

I read several of your other comments and you actually claim to have violated the second law of thermodynamics. Congratulations idiot. You have failed at the most basic level one can fail at. What a depressing display of ignorance and ineptitude. Hubris is not an admirable trait and it is directly perpetuating your myopic view of this topic. Your wife is fat and you are trying so hard to find a reason so long as that reason exonerates her from diet and exercise. Your time is better spent studying human nutrition, endocrinology, and microbiology instead of vainly trying to convince the world of bold falsehoods.

[–]expert02-2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Because obese black gay people are a cancer and a drain to society and it's all based on life choices.

Just so you can see how much of a discriminating piece of shit you are.

[–]slimthigh2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Oh, go fuck yourself. I didn't choose to be gay. I did choose to eat and exercise like a healthy human being instead of being a gluttonous lazy blob.

I'm not black but, tell me, what dietary choices does one need to make to become black?

Fatness has nothing to do with black nor gay rights. Fuck you.

[–]expert02-1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I did choose to eat and exercise like a healthy human being instead of being a gluttonous lazy blob.

Here you go, educate yourself.

Fatness has nothing to do with black nor gay rights. Fuck you.

Discrimination is discrimination. And you reek of it. And hypocrisy.

If you weren't so ready to condemn others based on their appearance (discrimination), perhaps you would try to understand why fat people are fat.

So, you "eat and exercise like a healthy human being".

I'm guessing your parents raised you that way?

How about all the people who weren't fortunate enough to have great parents like yours? The people who, during the most important years of their life, were fed shit food by their parents? Whose parents never bothered to help them keep in shape?

That's where most fat people come from. Shitty parents.

Have you ever stopped to consider just what it takes to "eat and exercise like a healthy human being"?

You've probably been in good shape all your life. So you probably wouldn't be able to comprehend how difficult it is to exercise when not only are your muscles weak from lack of exercise, but you have the weight of an entire other person on you.

Seriously. Have someone jump on your back, then go for a run. That's what it's like for a fat person.

Maybe next time, before you decide to discriminate against others based on their appearance, you'll stop and think, and then just keep quiet.

[–]Endless_Summer1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yep, no personal responsibility for your own actions. Typical.

Diseases don't make you fat, continuing to shove food in your face when you shouldn't makes you fat. It's literally that simple.

[–]expert020 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I would love to live in this little bubble world you live in.

[–]Endless_Summer0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Why? You clearly live in your own.

[–]bildramer0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Those are explanations, but are they excuses? No. I'm also going to judge people who don't bathe, but there's no "dirty acceptance movement" or "this one person got a burn and has to apply a cream that smells a little, therefore tolerate everyone who reeks of booze" or "uncleanliness is an addiction". This shitty narrative only exists because half of America is fat and in denial.

[–]expert020 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm sorry you are so full of hate. Did a fat person touch you inappropriately when you were young?

[–]Endless_Summer1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Wow, you think being gay is a choice and you're calling me a piece of shit. Hilarious.

[–]expert020 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Did I say that I think being gay is a choice?

No. You did.

I was trying to make you see how your words are discrimination, and are no different than what other people say when they discriminate against black people or gay people or any other group. But apparently you are to hateful and spiteful to see that.

You are what we call a hypocrite. You don't want to be discriminated against on the basis of your gender, but you discriminate against others based on their appearance.

[–]Endless_Summer0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Being fat is a choice and you compared it to being gay. So yes, you fucking idiot, you said being gay is a choice.

[–]expert020 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I see.

So, if I compare apples to oranges, I'm saying that oranges are apples?

[–]Endless_Summer0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Wow you're dumb.

[–]ImNotIntoPokemon 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're by far the dumbest mother fucker in this thread for simplifying a complex problem to that degree. "Oh you're disabled and putting on pounds? Just eat less!"

Wow, who the fuck needs doctors, dietitians, and physical therapists with brains like yours. You should write a book.

Yeah, at its essence losing weight is output should exceed input, but it takes more than merely the facts for people to change.

[–]urban_flora 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow bravo man

[–]QuestandFC 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why the hell are you being downvoted?

[–]pancreasgirl 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

gahhahahah

[–]TheRealMouseRat 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

fatspreading :P

[–]R67H 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm surprised there aren't more riots. If this is legit, NYC is a pretty fucked up place

[–]ApplicableSongLyric 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bread and circuses.

[–]i_cant_find_a_name 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I hate this manspreading bullshit. I'm sorry I have a dick and balls.

[+]Lose__Not__Loose -11 points-10 points-9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's absolutely ridiculous to make it a crime but many people, male and female, can be exceptionally inconsiderate on the NYC trains. Men do it by spreading their legs extra wide, women do it by crossing their legs. The reason they do it isn't because they have a dick and balls, they do it so that no one is able to sit next to them. They take up 3 seats while people are standing. It's an asshole move.

[–]mimetic-polyalloy 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Female sprawl. #STOPTHESPRAWL

[–]autourbanbot 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's the Urban Dictionary definition of Female Sprawl :


When a woman on public transit uses the seat and/or seats next to her to store her purse, handbag, backpack, etc in complete and utter disregard for the actual paying customers of said public transit that are left standing because their Coach bag is too expensive to put on the floor.


I was on the bus the other day and a lady had her purse taking up the TWO seats next to her, in typical Female Sprawl fashion. I politely asked her if she could move it and she refused. I then told her that if it doesnt have a fucking ticket, i'm sitting on it.


about | flag for glitch | Summon: urbanbot, what is something?

[–]therealmasculistman 18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Fuck New York. It is an emasculated hellhole.

[–]Keftedes89 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think you ever been to New York. People don't give a fuck over here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5GjlJYJF90

[+]whtsabagginses -22 points-21 points-20 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Have some evidence to back that up?

[–]morerokk 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The article that was linked in the OP.

[–]therealmasculistman 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Manspreading for one. Two,the way New York tried to railroad Dominique Strauss Khan on a trumped rape charge. Three,a male McDonald's employee had to defend himself against two lesbians that tried to attack him. He was arrested but let go when the grand jury learned the truth. His reward for defending himself? He was fired by his female boss. Four,if you get a hooker in New York and get arrested you go to the same "school" pedophiles go to and most likely end up on the sex offender registry too. If you are a New Yorker and don't like what you see do something about it. As you guys say busting my chops isn't going to push the movement forward.

[–]Targren 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Stay classy, NYPD. That flag-waving 9/11 PR will surely last forever, right?

[–]BowDown2Anthony 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I manspread and still take less room than a fat person

[+]expert02 -11 points-10 points-9 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not when you consider all that douchebaggery you're carrying around with you.

[–]BowDown2Anthony 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

found the fatty

[–]expert02 -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Found the hypocrite. Doesn't want to be discriminated against as a man, wants to discriminate against others by their appearance.

[–]BowDown2Anthony -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

this nothing to do with being a man.. it's about paying for space on a subway. Why shouldn't we charge people based of the amount of space they will utilize?

[–]expert02 -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"found the fatty" has nothing to do with anything you said.

It has everything to do with you being a hateful, discriminating, hypocrite.

[–]AryaBarzan 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Things feminists actually care about.

[–]Halfback 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This seems entirely unfair to Matthew Broderick, his condition isn't rudeness, it's a disability and should be treated as such.

Broderick has spend much of his adult life being conditioned to sit a certain way and I'm sure you would have trouble adjusting your seated position if you had to ride your wife the way he has to ride Sarah Jessica Parker on a daily basis.

[–]FookSake 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't physically eye-roll hard enough

[–]Tmomp 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The article says people aren't allowed to take up more than one seat. I see no problem with that rule.

Making up a gendered, insulting term for it makes it sound sexist.

Just don't put gender into a non-gendered issue and there's no problem.

[+]Clientkill 11 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice to see some regular race baiting by gothamist in the lower bullet points

[–]zpatriarchy 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

gothamist is a mangina site & should not be linked to directly.

[–]stop_stalking_me 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please tell me this is one of those satirical sites

[–]9001 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait, this isn't satire?

[–]ShitfacedBatman2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Man spread?

Wtf. Protest by manufacturing a line of mayonnaise by the name. Take that, ladies.

[–]a_posh_trophy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some people seriously have absolutely fuck all better to do.

[–]Curious_Swede 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope they sue.

Ask a person to make some room and they will or you could stand up and hate the person who is unknowingly being treated like a monster and a criminal like the cancer you are.

[–]Beamazedbyme 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

RIP being safe as a man in this country, unconscious behaviors can get you arrested.

[–]Beamazedbyme 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God, taking up a little bit of space on the seat next to you is the worst thing you can do on an NY subway? I've seen people lay across multiple seats for stations on end, wheres the cops chasing them down?

[–]unklestinky 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's amazing that law enforcement in NYC has so much free time.

[–]BlackMRA-edtastic 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The list goes on. Ninety-four percent of the 850 defendants observed by PROP were people of color, according to the report. Plenty more of the accounts take place above ground.

That's the big take away for me and I'm sure it's over 90% male. The targeting of men and minorities by police is a real issue. They're the low hanging fruit for cops on ticket or arrest quotas.

[–]BendersDame 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck?

[–]murderhuman 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it's also racist

[–]DrFjord 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha, is this for real? What the fuck.

[–]thekingofdicks1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This would never happen to women!

[–]greycloud24 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the quotas are a social control mechanism as well as an economic resource. they are conditioning you to think that you are so small that you cannot challenge the ruling class. it is a trick, the many outnumber and overpower the few.

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[–]tygertiger 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love doing this on packed buses or trains. I'm not paying fare so that you can use up a seat for your shopping bags or purses, assholes.

[–]pancreasgirl -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

personally, i think that this is ridiculous. but, it is undoubtfully hilarious. man-spreading is an "issue", but we can all agree that it's nothing to be arrested over... i worry for our country.

[+]Shubrook -23 points-22 points-21 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Dear lord we aren't grabbing our pitchforks for this again are we?

If the men were taking up two seats on a busy train, then the NYPD just met their annual quota for good deeds.

Maybe they were intentionally taking up space, maybe they were arrested for being Latino. Without a picture of the alleged man spreading, we can't know.

[–]dreddriver 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

1) The summons specifically mentioned "Manspreading". Which makes it a crime that can only be pointed to one gender. They weren't arrested for "taking up two seats".

2) It was 12:11am when they got the ticket. The train wasn't busy.

3) I hate taking up space as much as the next person but why should the charge purposefully apply to only men?

[–]therealmasculistman 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because if it is applied to women feminists will have a shit fit and that will scare the fuck out of the castrati.

[–]Tell_Like_It_Is 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you read it?

Before issuing an [adjournment contemplating dismissal] for both men, the judge expressed her skepticism about the charge because of the time of the arrests: "12:11AM, I can't believe there were many people on the subway"

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