I want to hear opinions on what you think of this person, based on your Red Pill/BluePill/ect perspective. Eg, Do you consider this guy an alpha, beta, betabux, or whatever new terminology is being used.
Is this guy successful or a loser? Tell me what you really think. I'll preface that this stems from a curiosity to see how different pills/genders view the same person. I am expecting spectrum of answers, but maybe with consistency from some groups?
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Guy struggles with girls growing up in his teenage years. No girlfriend, no interest. Has a core group of male and female friends, just not romantically. Not considered "attractive" and at best case would be considered average in almost every aspect. 5'9", 200lbs, a bit chubby, ethnic in a majority Caucasian demographic location.
Guy graduates high school, takes basic minimum wage retail job, and eventually goes to college/university/post-secondary, whatever you call it. There are no concerns with his hygiene, he showers, grooms, brushes his teeth, ect.
Guy meets conventionally attractive girl (Caucasian, blue eyes, blond hair, ect fill in the gaps). She has many options, he has few (or none). There are ups and downs as any normal relationship. He has never cheated, but he has also never had anyone else interested in him, so he has never had an opportunity.
She has never cheated on him, but there was a period where she broke up with Guy because he was jealous of her male friend. She immediately hooks up with before returning to Guy and forever cutting out the male friend going forward. Guy acknowledges they weren't in a relationship at the time.
They eventually go on to corporate jobs, marry, buy a house. He is always an under-achiever, but somehow finds a way to fail upwards until he is making six figures and they have financial security, but by no means would be "rich" or "wealthy" to the point of being a sugar daddy/be used for money.
Girl says she feels happy and content. Guy feels somewhere between still a failure and grateful he's not an incel. Guy heavily contributes to the orgasm gap, in that he has never made her orgasm, but she can do so fine on her own.
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So, where does this guy fall in your opinion? Is he a loser who settled. Is he a loser who won the lottery? Is he a winner for succeeding in your eyes by having a successful long relationship? Is he somewhere in between?
I fully appreciate the fact most people may not want to comment on judging a person and making assumptions based on these paragraphs, and in general, I completely agree. I am asking only to see how different perspectives look at the same case study. If there are huge gaps that make this too unrealistic to answer, I'm happy to try to fill in any gaps or inconsistencies in the comments.
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