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[–]tickledpic 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (38 children) | Copy Link

To get a friend you need to be interesting to that person. To get a girlfriend you also need to be interesting to that person.

You can become interesting in many different ways. Most of them don't require you to put in any effort if you already naturally are the kind of person the other person seeks an interest in.

If you don't have any interesting qualities about you then you can develop them. But most people don't need to. What they need to is stop censoring themselves so they actually stand out of the crowd and attract attention (interest) to themselves.

From that point on it's just deciding what kind of interest you want. A sexual one? Well, stop censoring yourself about your sexual desires and interests to the person you want to be sexual with.

None of this requires you to be a jester.

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[–]tickledpic 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link

Why are you focused on tinder? Tinder is obviously mainly about looks. It's how the app was designed (mostly by men btw, so don't blame women). And OLD in general because removing the physical interaction takes away the mechanism of how women actually choose mates (so their sense of what they would choose IRL is hyperfoced on the visual just like it is for men).

don't know how you imagine sexual attention having something to do with expressing your personal desires

Because IRL you can capture the interest of women just by expressing your own interest. Sure, looks matter. But if you are at least average then nature has already instilled in you everything you need. Your desire for her, creates a desire in her.

It really does. It's just some "yeah they just say that because it sounds good or because they are good looking so no matter what they would say she would be interested".

Women get wet when they hear a guy whisper his dirty imagination into theirs ears. That captures their interest very well.

If there is any chance at all that she could be interested, then your desire for her will bring it out.

[–]gkom1917 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (29 children) | Copy Link

Why are you focused on tinder

Because the post is literally about tinder?

designed (mostly by men btw

And West African slave trade was first implemented by some West African chiefs. Guess who benefitted from it.

so their sense of what they would choose IRL is hyperfocused on the visual

They seems to be quite content with that. And since it's new reality both online and IRL, does it matter how it was established? The result still holds: women are more and more concentrated on looks.

Because IRL you can capture the interest of women just by expressing your own interest

That's basically the recipe to be creepy. Expressing your sexual desire to the women who didn't make it clear that she wants you already is the definition of harassment.

But if you are at least average

First, I'm not average. Second, plenty of average men here admitted they have struggles despite of it.

Women get wet when they hear a guy whisper his dirty imagination into theirs ears

Again, if they already want him.

So your advice may work in the very specific context, where a good-looking man has a flirtatious banter with a woman who is already positive to having sex with him. Doesn't really applies to tinder conversations and even first-date experience for most men, - and, again, that's what the post is about.

[–]tickledpic0 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That's basically the recipe to be creepy. Expressing your sexual desire to the women who didn't make it clear that she wants you already is the definition of harassment.

Ha, I knew you are going to trip up here.

Harassment is when you continue to offer your offer after rejection. Make your offer for the 1st time is not harassment.

And why are bothered about what she thinks of you. Being creepy is not a crime (and don't say it's soon going to be, it's not). You are going to have to risk being perceived as creepy if you are going to stop censoring yourself. That's how it works.

Expressing your sexual desire to the women who didn't make it clear IS the way you get her to make it clear. As long as you stop trying to interact with her as soon as she rejects you are fine. The point of your approach is to get a yes or no. How can she make that decision is she doesn't know your offer? So you just tell it to her. And don't give a flying fuck about those who say no, just move on like it was a fly went by and now is gone.

First, I'm not average.

Ok, it's going to be harder. So?

Second, plenty of average men here admitted they have struggles despite of it.

Have they stopped censoring themselves the way I suggested? No.

Again, if they already want him.

No. You don't understand. Your desires CREATES a desire in her (if at all possible, etc, etc). She does know you. She is stranger. You make an offer and see if that offer is interesting to her. How could she have already wanted the stranger she had never met? IRL women are not as visual as on timder. IRL women are way more auditory (which is why I suggested sexual whispering - it's an arousing act).

[–]gkom19172 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Make your offer for the 1st time is not harassment

Okay, I get you. Now please explain it to women.

Being creepy is not a crime

There is that old-timey silly thing called "reputation", you might have heard of it. Hopefully, I was never so desperate to trade it for an intercourse.

it's going to be harder. So?

So I draw an appropriate conclusion. Women are not interested in what I can offer, thus I don't bother them. Most of them don't bother me in return. It's win-win, nobody's wasting their time in vain.

Have they stopped censoring themselves the way I suggested?

Can't say for all men, but I have a strong feeling most of them never censored themselves in the first place.

Your desires CREATES a desire in her

Any evidence? Because I have at least one example I'm 100% sure of ('cause it's mine, lol) how it leads not to genuine desire, but to pretending to like you in order to receive care and support, while using and abusing you. And also plenty if second-hand examples.

IRL women are not as visual as on timder.

Sure they do, otherwise my superficial physical traits wouldn't be explicitly stated as deal-breakers.

Please try to consider that you being that handsome player doesn't mean all the men have it the same.

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So I draw an appropriate conclusion. Women are not interested in what I can offer, thus I don't bother them.

That's fair. But you made an impression that it was your choice to not bother the doll who sits there and wants to be entertained. Not at what you are saying here.

Also, have you offered your actual true genuine offer nor just the mild, censored socially pleasing one?

Can't say for all men, but I have a strong feeling most of them never censored themselves in the first place.

LoL, no. They consor themselves all the time. Do most men want to go on dates? No, they want to fuck. But do they say that? No, they go on dates.

Any evidence? Because I have at least one example

Nice experiment with only one instance. Try doing it a thousand times and getting better over time like the rest of us do who are not so arrogant to think that success should come without effort.

Sure they do, otherwise my superficial physical traits wouldn't be explicitly stated as deal-breakers.

No. That's not what it means. There was a reason I said you need to be at least average. If you have something visual unattractive about you, you will have to work harder to get the same results better looking people get. So? You going to give up or work for it? If you give up, don't blame others. If you work for it, there are plenty of people who will cheer for you if you'll have the right attitude.

[–]gkom19172 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

it was your choice to not bother the doll who sits there and wants to be entertained

The fact I had my share of dates like this doesn't exclude neither other experiences, nor final conclusions.

They censor themselves all the time

So you're 100% sure you can speak of general population?

Nice experiment with only one instance

I wrote explicitly I also have observations of how other men had it. Or it doesn't count? Did I need to go through more suffering just to speak solely from first-hand experience? It's not that nice of you to wish things like that on me.

who are not so arrogant to think that success should come without effort.

Do I need to retell you now about all my efforts of almost 32 years?

you will have to work harder

Or you can try to put some basic intellectual effort and realize that deal-breakers are called "deal-breakers" for a reason, and if some immutable trait is not only a deal-breaker but even an inexcusable flaw (like "manlets must die" is totally acceptable sentiment), then you better respect yourself and don't be that desperate for women who don't view you as a human being.

don't blame others

Who do I blame? That's you who try to constantly blame me out of the blue.

there are plenty of people who will cheer for you

Like who?

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It means that you will have to work harder on finding a person for whom your shortcoming is not a deal breaker

First, I don't think absolutely normal healthy variation in height is a "shortcoming". If someone doesn't like it, it's not a reason to devalue myself.

Second, okay, let's assess the chances of "finding a right person". We'll be optimistic and say that 1 women in 100 would be perfectly okay with my 5'6. Let's also assume you go out every Friday night and meet 5 new women every time you go out on average. Given only 1% of them could like you, it leaves us with 5% chance at best. Then let's again be generous and say you find every other girl attractive enough. So, 2.5% chance. Then things may not work out due to other reasons. Let's say it leaves us with 2%. Let's then assume meeting women are more or less approximated by Poisson process. Then the chances to find the mutual attraction will exceed 80% only after TWO years of going out every Friday night. With THE MOST generous and optimistic assumptions. Realistically it would be like 5 years. With much, much rejection. Does it really worth it? You may really save a few hundred thousands of spare bucks if you work instead.

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Well, there are many things that's hard to replicate or even properly test. For instance, it's really hard even to assess the distances between galaxies, let alone unambiguously explain them. That's why we come up with hypotheses which can explain the observation by some consistent realistic assumptions. Dark matter is hard to detect, and dark energy - we don't even know what it is at all. But they fit the Einstein field equations well, and can explain the data without making assumptions that don't rely on General relativity and Standard model.

In dating it's realistic to assume that since physical appearance is observable quality that fits most women's expressed statements of desirable traits and deal-breakers, you can rely on it as main predictor of dating success. On the contrary, sexy whisper seem like a quite random and "unreplicateable" explanation for people experiences.

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Title	Jestermax these sluts 🧢
Author	sootlord
Upvotes	291
Comments	181
Date	October 3, 2021 5:04 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/q0lxly/jestermax_these_sluts/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/jestermax-these-sluts.1077929 https://theredarchive.com/post/1077929

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