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[β]social_muleMGTOW 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
-I love to laugh
-If I super liked you it was on accident
-So sick of all the games
-Fluent in sarcasm
[β]Mark_Freedformer nice guy 88 points89 points90 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Dance monkey dance
[β]sootlordRedPillCombustion[S] 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ππ
[β]Individual-March8163 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
On that note, you heard of the song Dance Monkey? It has the worst vocals ever, so grating and annoying
[β]Mark_Freedformer nice guy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tones and I is one of my fav songs by dance monkey
[β]Nodeal_reddit 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dance, tall monkey, dance. Fuck off, short monkey.
[β]FishermanOk6465 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
All that texting "game" goes out the window when its chad chad could have the personality of a cardboard cut out and still get the girl
[β]hentaipolice 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Apparently he can be a nazi and do very well
[β]pecek11 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
my experience is exactly the opposite
it doesn't matter how progressive your life is, how husband material you are, how handsome and ripped body you have
if you don't say what she wants to hear, the trashbin you go
[β][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
King Bugs. 10/10 would fuck. RP men should use him as a barometer of not giving a fuck and being outcome independent. He should be the red pill mascot
[β]sootlordRedPillCombustion[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree
[β]ThisBoringLife 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What about Kermit drinking the tea?
[β][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kermit is a BP simp for a fattie
[β]TrueStormsReally? Likeβ¦okay. 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Of course you do realize this means war π₯
[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wuts up Doc
[β]wtknight 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's only if you're an average value guy. Everyone has seen the memes of the men who they simp for.
[β]IOportA 53 points54 points55 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Girls saying "make me laugh" is the equivalent of men asking for nudes.
[β]Submersiv 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Kind of but not really. Girls saying make me laugh is simply a shit test. What they're really saying is play my game and if you do, you're not really above my level (which is what triggers her hypergamous attraction). Even if you have the funniest joke, by complying instantly with her you're already starting out on a different level of attraction than a guy who doesn't really take the request seriously or outright ignores it.
E.g. "sure, come over to my place and I'll tickle your feet" or "I'm a really funny guy <smile and stare then change the subject>"
Guys asking for nudes is just cause they wanna see some tittays. But also kinda testing whether the girl is easy or too slutty for commitment material.
[β]IOportA 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You ain't wrong, I sure as hell don't respond to it.
[β]FatPam007 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The tickle your feet was a funny thing to say though
[β]Submersiv 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah you can coincidentally be funny as long as you're leading the interaction or talking for your own amusement.
[β]FatPam007 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh that's a great advice. Talking for my own amusement. Interesting. It's a selfish way of looking at communication. But it makes sense.
[β]gopherish -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Youβre also right, but it is the same because they will still enjoy the validation from the attention.
[β]pink-summer-skyNo Pill 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Didn't realize making jokes made you vulnerable and exposed
[β]AttachableSheep 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tell that to the Joker after his first attempt at stand up comedy lol
[β]IOportA 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
your nudes only make you vulnerable and exposed if you're stupid enough to show your face.
[β]toasterchild 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
By all means be boring, just don't expect to land a date unless you are super hot.
[β]LeUpboaterLe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So exactly the same as if you're funny.
[β]ethicsssss13 points 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
God save the kween.
[β]QueenJessica96 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The absolute state of society
[β]NakedlyStripped 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I will match the energy you provide me. This is boring? That's on you.
[β]Illustrious_Wish_383 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Love to travel. Because apparently everyone has infinite vacation days and is independently wealthy.
[β]Clean_Dig_5265Basedpill 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you are still wasting your time expecting something on Tinder, I'm not quite sure what to tell you broski
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[β]Strawberry3525_ 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmaoooo
[+]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (80 children) | Copy Link
Imagine taking to the internet to complain about your inability toβ¦not be boring.
[β]gkom1917 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (61 children) | Copy Link
How could we forget that definition of "not boring" is "entertaining random bored strangers as long as they're female"
[+]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (60 children) | Copy Link
What are you, a telemarketer? If youβre going to contact a stranger the least you could do is make their attention worth it.
For fuckβs sake, even the charity canvassers outside my building try to break the ice with an insincere compliment about my smile.
[β]gkom1917 17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (58 children) | Copy Link
The point is I'm not a telemarketer. And I don't need to play a dancing monkey. If they matched with me, they are free to get to know me and decide if they like my humour, and/or my thoughts etc. Not like I'm hiding anything. But it's not a job, and I don't owe them entertainment.
[+]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (57 children) | Copy Link
Nobodyβs asking you to be a monkey or a clown or a jester, just a person. And if youβre the type of person who thinks a good way to introduce yourself to anyone is with a blank stare, then donβt be mad if they draw the right conclusion about you.
[β]gkom1917 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (56 children) | Copy Link
Requirement to be a person doesn't need to be stated explicitly. And I don't know why the hell you assume "blank stare" as a response, I'm just not interested in doing all the work by myself while "her not amused majesty" silently sits there like a doll. With an actual blank stare.
[β]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Just cutting through the noise: anyone who resents the expectation to make an interesting first impression to a stranger doesnβt have anything interesting to offer.
[β]gkom1917 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
Dude. I play 4 instruments, read in 2 languages (another 3 less confidently, but still) and got a whole wall of bookshelves to read. And since I'm never bored with all that, I'm pretty damn interesting for myself. If it's not enough for someone else, it's not my problem. Just don't make me play a clown for these people.
[β]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How is anyone going to know that if you treat sharing anything about yourself like some degrading concession to high standards?
[β]Drougen 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you not know how to read or comprehend? All the dude's saying is he's not going to tell jokes and be an entertainer for every match he gets.
[β]gkom1917 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
I don't know how you come up with such bizarre ideas. What degrading concession? Jeez. I was talking about OLD requirements to "entertain", which 99% of the time means "I'll be sitting there with bored face, and you must do all the talk and manage to make me laugh, even though I have a personality of an earthworm"
[–]TotalTravesty2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I strongly doubt youβve been on enough dates (okay, Iβll be nice: dates like that) to know that for certain. People donβt actually act like that in real life meetups. That sounds like the kind of conclusion angry men make to pre-reject girls out of their league and cope with their inability to make a good first impression.
[–]gkom19177 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Well, nobody pressures you to take my word. But in return I'll stick with my experience, guess we can agree to disagree here.
[–]Tungsten7_8 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Dude, stop explaining yourself to these mentally ill cucks on the internet. Youβre 100% right. Weβre not monkeys to dance for fat land whales with nothing to offer, as if they have authority to deem us acceptable and βworth their timeβ. That is how blue pilled- low testosterone males think.
[β]Think_Climate_1303 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
No, people would be fine with it if such things were reciprocated by women.
[β]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
You are allowed to turn down a woman if she bores you.
[β]Think_Climate_1303 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yes. What does that have to do with women and entitled attitudes?
If you actually retain some of your freedom of choice then womenβs entitlement wouldnβt be so devastating. I probably went on a dozen first dates with boring entitled women but I never gave them a second thought because they bored me every bit as much as I bored them. Now if I thought I was 100% at the mercy of the womanβs satisfaction with no choice or will of my own then yeah, Iβd probably take to Reddit too.
[–]Think_Climate_13035 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I believe in equality and while society calls out mens' bad attitudes, it rarely does the same for women. Thus, we should do that to them too.
Now if I thought I was 100% at the mercy of the womanβs satisfaction with no choice
You mean the life of most men who desire intimacy? Yes.
[–]TotalTravesty1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Sucks to be them, I guess. You wouldnβt catch me compromising my standards and settling for subpar women just for a whiff of βintimacy.β
I guess if youβre so pathetic that you throw yourself 100% at the mercy of a woman you just met and her often arbitrary approval standards then OPβs resentment makes sense.
[β][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Cmon have you ever seen a Russian actually smile? We donβt play that fake shit. Either be impressed with my bear taming and vodka chugging abilities or begone thot!
[β]gkom1917 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're running out of good ideas for trolling already? In less than a 24 hrs? I'm almost disappointed
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dammit. Iβm hung over. About to get some Korean wings maybe they will wake me up. Iβll try harder
[β]tickledpic 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (38 children) | Copy Link
To get a friend you need to be interesting to that person. To get a girlfriend you also need to be interesting to that person.
You can become interesting in many different ways. Most of them don't require you to put in any effort if you already naturally are the kind of person the other person seeks an interest in.
If you don't have any interesting qualities about you then you can develop them. But most people don't need to. What they need to is stop censoring themselves so they actually stand out of the crowd and attract attention (interest) to themselves.
From that point on it's just deciding what kind of interest you want. A sexual one? Well, stop censoring yourself about your sexual desires and interests to the person you want to be sexual with.
None of this requires you to be a jester.
[β]gkom1917 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
Now please tell this to tinder girls.
I've already have a circle of good friends who find me interesting the way I am, so I already don't censor myself.
Also don't know how you imagine sexual attention having something to do with expressing your personal desires, while it's mainly about looking good.
[β]tickledpic 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
Why are you focused on tinder? Tinder is obviously mainly about looks. It's how the app was designed (mostly by men btw, so don't blame women). And OLD in general because removing the physical interaction takes away the mechanism of how women actually choose mates (so their sense of what they would choose IRL is hyperfoced on the visual just like it is for men).
don't know how you imagine sexual attention having something to do with expressing your personal desires
Because IRL you can capture the interest of women just by expressing your own interest. Sure, looks matter. But if you are at least average then nature has already instilled in you everything you need. Your desire for her, creates a desire in her.
It really does. It's just some "yeah they just say that because it sounds good or because they are good looking so no matter what they would say she would be interested".
Women get wet when they hear a guy whisper his dirty imagination into theirs ears. That captures their interest very well.
If there is any chance at all that she could be interested, then your desire for her will bring it out.
[β]gkom1917 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (29 children) | Copy Link
Why are you focused on tinder
Because the post is literally about tinder?
designed (mostly by men btw
And West African slave trade was first implemented by some West African chiefs. Guess who benefitted from it.
so their sense of what they would choose IRL is hyperfocused on the visual
They seems to be quite content with that. And since it's new reality both online and IRL, does it matter how it was established? The result still holds: women are more and more concentrated on looks.
Because IRL you can capture the interest of women just by expressing your own interest
That's basically the recipe to be creepy. Expressing your sexual desire to the women who didn't make it clear that she wants you already is the definition of harassment.
But if you are at least average
First, I'm not average. Second, plenty of average men here admitted they have struggles despite of it.
Women get wet when they hear a guy whisper his dirty imagination into theirs ears
Again, if they already want him.
So your advice may work in the very specific context, where a good-looking man has a flirtatious banter with a woman who is already positive to having sex with him. Doesn't really applies to tinder conversations and even first-date experience for most men, - and, again, that's what the post is about.
[–]tickledpic0 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Ha, I knew you are going to trip up here.
Harassment is when you continue to offer your offer after rejection. Make your offer for the 1st time is not harassment.
And why are bothered about what she thinks of you. Being creepy is not a crime (and don't say it's soon going to be, it's not). You are going to have to risk being perceived as creepy if you are going to stop censoring yourself. That's how it works.
Expressing your sexual desire to the women who didn't make it clear IS the way you get her to make it clear. As long as you stop trying to interact with her as soon as she rejects you are fine. The point of your approach is to get a yes or no. How can she make that decision is she doesn't know your offer? So you just tell it to her. And don't give a flying fuck about those who say no, just move on like it was a fly went by and now is gone.
First, I'm not average.
Ok, it's going to be harder. So?
Second, plenty of average men here admitted they have struggles despite of it.
Have they stopped censoring themselves the way I suggested? No.
No. You don't understand. Your desires CREATES a desire in her (if at all possible, etc, etc). She does know you. She is stranger. You make an offer and see if that offer is interesting to her. How could she have already wanted the stranger she had never met? IRL women are not as visual as on timder. IRL women are way more auditory (which is why I suggested sexual whispering - it's an arousing act).
[–]gkom19172 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Make your offer for the 1st time is not harassment
Okay, I get you. Now please explain it to women.
Being creepy is not a crime
There is that old-timey silly thing called "reputation", you might have heard of it. Hopefully, I was never so desperate to trade it for an intercourse.
it's going to be harder. So?
So I draw an appropriate conclusion. Women are not interested in what I can offer, thus I don't bother them. Most of them don't bother me in return. It's win-win, nobody's wasting their time in vain.
Have they stopped censoring themselves the way I suggested?
Can't say for all men, but I have a strong feeling most of them never censored themselves in the first place.
Your desires CREATES a desire in her
Any evidence? Because I have at least one example I'm 100% sure of ('cause it's mine, lol) how it leads not to genuine desire, but to pretending to like you in order to receive care and support, while using and abusing you. And also plenty if second-hand examples.
IRL women are not as visual as on timder.
Sure they do, otherwise my superficial physical traits wouldn't be explicitly stated as deal-breakers.
Please try to consider that you being that handsome player doesn't mean all the men have it the same.
[–]tickledpic1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
So I draw an appropriate conclusion. Women are not interested in what I can offer, thus I don't bother them.
That's fair. But you made an impression that it was your choice to not bother the doll who sits there and wants to be entertained. Not at what you are saying here.
Also, have you offered your actual true genuine offer nor just the mild, censored socially pleasing one?
LoL, no. They consor themselves all the time. Do most men want to go on dates? No, they want to fuck. But do they say that? No, they go on dates.
Any evidence? Because I have at least one example
Nice experiment with only one instance. Try doing it a thousand times and getting better over time like the rest of us do who are not so arrogant to think that success should come without effort.
No. That's not what it means. There was a reason I said you need to be at least average. If you have something visual unattractive about you, you will have to work harder to get the same results better looking people get. So? You going to give up or work for it? If you give up, don't blame others. If you work for it, there are plenty of people who will cheer for you if you'll have the right attitude.
it was your choice to not bother the doll who sits there and wants to be entertained
The fact I had my share of dates like this doesn't exclude neither other experiences, nor final conclusions.
They censor themselves all the time
So you're 100% sure you can speak of general population?
Nice experiment with only one instance
I wrote explicitly I also have observations of how other men had it. Or it doesn't count? Did I need to go through more suffering just to speak solely from first-hand experience? It's not that nice of you to wish things like that on me.
who are not so arrogant to think that success should come without effort.
Do I need to retell you now about all my efforts of almost 32 years?
you will have to work harder
Or you can try to put some basic intellectual effort and realize that deal-breakers are called "deal-breakers" for a reason, and if some immutable trait is not only a deal-breaker but even an inexcusable flaw (like "manlets must die" is totally acceptable sentiment), then you better respect yourself and don't be that desperate for women who don't view you as a human being.
don't blame others
Who do I blame? That's you who try to constantly blame me out of the blue.
there are plenty of people who will cheer for you
Like who?
realize that deal-breakers are called "deal-breakers" for a reason
Working harder doesn't mean that you will convince someone to not have the deal breaker they have. It means that you will have to work harder on finding a person for whom your shortcoming is not a deal breaker. And a what's a better way to find such a person by showcasing some other qualities you might have that are very attractive, such as direct, straightforward honesty?
Well, as I talk to you, you don't seem to be putting blame outside of yourself. But the comments that made me respond to you, did.
[–]gkom19171 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It means that you will have to work harder on finding a person for whom your shortcoming is not a deal breaker
First, I don't think absolutely normal healthy variation in height is a "shortcoming". If someone doesn't like it, it's not a reason to devalue myself.
Second, okay, let's assess the chances of "finding a right person". We'll be optimistic and say that 1 women in 100 would be perfectly okay with my 5'6. Let's also assume you go out every Friday night and meet 5 new women every time you go out on average. Given only 1% of them could like you, it leaves us with 5% chance at best. Then let's again be generous and say you find every other girl attractive enough. So, 2.5% chance. Then things may not work out due to other reasons. Let's say it leaves us with 2%. Let's then assume meeting women are more or less approximated by Poisson process. Then the chances to find the mutual attraction will exceed 80% only after TWO years of going out every Friday night. With THE MOST generous and optimistic assumptions. Realistically it would be like 5 years. With much, much rejection. Does it really worth it? You may really save a few hundred thousands of spare bucks if you work instead.
We'll be optimistic and say that 1 women in 100 would be perfectly okay with my 5'6.
That's not how it works. Women will forgive a drawback in face of a strong benefit. The percentage if higher.
you go out every Friday night and meet 5 new women every time you go out
If you live in a decently sized city, you can talk to 20 women in 2 hours of taking a longer route of walking to your home after work. No need to waste time in clubs and stuff.
You may really save a few hundred thousands of spare bucks if you work instead.
Talking is free. Walking outside is healthy.
Women will forgive a drawback in face of a strong benefit
My whole life experience says otherwise.
you can talk to 20 women in 2 hours of taking a longer route of walking to your home after work
Don't know about your culture, but in our culture bothering complete strangers on streets is considered impolite.
Talking is free. Walking outside is healthy
Can't argue, I personally enjoy both.
Have you ever been extremely direct with a woman? Laid out exactly what you want and don't want with her? Learned to do it in a smooth way?
is considered impolite.
Who cares? That's fear of rejection from strangers. Unless they are going to come and stop you talking to the woman of your interest, why the fuck does their opinion matter?
extremely direct with a woman
Yep, that's how I got my last gf and a couple of ONS after her. And that's how I learn my lesson that physical attractiveness is the key even if you can get some sex without it (mainly because it cones with the cost of humiliation afterwards, and also sex isn't that great).
mainly because it cones with the cost of humiliation afterwards
What would that be? I can't even imagine what could be so bad.
and also sex isn't that great
And why is that?
Yes, you can't imagine. That's the point.
Having hurt feelings? Being embarrassed in front of people? Those are things everyone experience. So I really can't imagine something a woman who had sex with you could do that's so humiliating you give up on women overall.
There are people who are raped, cooerced into actual humiliation on video for the world to see, etc. I have a hard time imagining that your experiences come anywhere near that.
"If you were not beaten nearly yo death and coerced into snuff porn, your experience and your feelings are invalid"
Wow, dude, I like this attitude.
I never said your feeling are invalid. I just can't imagine what would be so bad that you would better choose to dwell in past instead working on future.
I've had plenty bad feelings. Normal people move on. And if it's not an actual trauma, then, yes, in my opinion you are weak for not being able to deal with your feelings.
Then you're entitled to your opinion, fair enough. And I'm not obligated to explain every traumatic bit of my private experience for a stranger on the internet. So?
When engaging in a conversation people usually try to make their case and show that what they are saying is true. Especially if the other person isn't convinced.
Then why didn't you do this yourself? I thought it's not supposed to be one-sided.
This whole thread is me doing that. It's rare to get logical, coherent responses though.
This whole thread is you making claims about dating without backing them with any evidence, and then making assumptions on whether my experience is valid. Sorry, it can't pass as "showing the case to be true".
The thing extraordinary experiences in dating is that it's hard to replicate them in a study. Not because it's not possible but because most men don't have much seduction skills at all. So studies will show attractive men getting laid via attraction and possibly seduction (which they have learned thanks to positive reinforcement from attraction)... and average men not getting laid.
But testing for avarage men with seduction skill is not easy because how do you find them. It would need a really sophisticated qualification process. So all I can do is bring logical argumention in favor of my point.
Well, there are many things that's hard to replicate or even properly test. For instance, it's really hard even to assess the distances between galaxies, let alone unambiguously explain them. That's why we come up with hypotheses which can explain the observation by some consistent realistic assumptions. Dark matter is hard to detect, and dark energy - we don't even know what it is at all. But they fit the Einstein field equations well, and can explain the data without making assumptions that don't rely on General relativity and Standard model.
In dating it's realistic to assume that since physical appearance is observable quality that fits most women's expressed statements of desirable traits and deal-breakers, you can rely on it as main predictor of dating success. On the contrary, sexy whisper seem like a quite random and "unreplicateable" explanation for people experiences.
Yet it's not random. It's woven into the wisdom of past generation. For example a saying to which most women agree to "men love with their eyes, women love with their ears". Auditory input can have really profound effect on how a woman feels and what she feels (has been tested).
Also men get aroused by naked women, women get aroused by anything and everything sexual (has been tested).
So if you can get her imagination going into sexual direction and create a sexual story in her mind that involves the two of you - chances are good she will be aroused and want to act on it.
Wisdom of past generations is that tou can indeed talk that prudish girl you like to into dating you, because she's so out of touch with her sexuality that anything borderline exciting is infinitely better than closing her eyes and thinking of England within an arranged marriage. It doesn't apply that well to modern situation where any time she's slightly bored she can choose from a thousands of fuckboys by any superficial criteria. And arrange that sexual story with that chad with 8 inches down below without overthinking it and setting down for somebody average, no matter how smooth he talks.
It doesn't apply that well to modern situation where any time she's slightly bored she can choose from a thousands of fuckboys by any superficial criteria. And arrange that sexual story with that chad with 8 inches down below without overthinking it.
You do realize that it's a minority of women who do that consistently right? Sure there are some who like it. But in generally - nope. Most women hate the tinder experience.
Many aren't even intrested in trying. If they try, they see a candy of a man and maybe decide to give it a shot. After they are left unfulfilled in bed because the dude didn't try to please her but just wanted to quickly stick it in... they decide that it's not for them. Women in general are incredibly disatisfied with what OLD has to offer.
Nope, I realize most of the women hate tinder experience because the fuckboys they choose dump them after sex (because they can lol). Not because they look for smooth talkers with incredible personality but magically stumble upon chads every single time.
What women look for and what they respond to is not the same.
Just because women respond fuckboys doesn't mean they want them for a relationships. It's in the name - "a boy for fucking". And a fuckboy is usually a smooth talker btw.
[–]Gackt1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Thank you. I've been un-cesoring myself lately, saw one result already.
[β]TorhamZed 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
To get a girlfriend you also need to be interesting to that person.
No you retard you need to be attractive. This has almost nothing to do with being interesting.
[β]tickledpic 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Sure, but what do you do if you don't capture her immidiate interest by attraction? You demonstrate your sexuality to her and give attraction another chance to develop (by trying to seduce her).
If it does good, if it doesn't you have done your best. If you don't give her another chance to develop attraction besides just looking at you, you have NOT done your best.
[β]TorhamZed 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sure, but what do you do if you don't capture her immidiate interest by attraction?
Then there will be no relationship. At best you can be a betabux.
BS. I've fucked plenty women who were like "meh" when I approached them, but when I started ear fucking them with my word they were ready to have sex with me.
[–]TorhamZed1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Sure lmao.
Your lack of belief doesn't invalidate my experience
[β]dbhmilolmgrjk 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly they're all trying to sell you something when I was trying to sell my dick and only get laid I was ready to dance like a monkey too.
[β]MisterFlipside 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Its about women expecting more out of you than they give in return just because of mens sexual lust. They are not nearly as entertaining, and they dont have to be.
[β]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
And whose fault is that?
Hint: itβs not even all menβs fault since there are still plenty of men who expect more from their date than a living sex doll.
[β]MisterFlipside 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Prisoners dilemma, cant control the actions of all the men in the world, blah blah blah.
[β]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
βItβs not my fault, itβs societyβs!β -The motto of the useless PPD guy
[β]MisterFlipside 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I just said men have to work a lot harder than women do in the dating scene. You said whose fault is that, and I gave you an answer.
What do you want from me?
[β]gothicSuperfluous 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You could have the most varied and unusual interests but if women donβt like you, youβre boring.
Give me a break, most womenβs βinterestsβ involve watching Netflix and eating. They arenβt in any position to judge lmao
[β]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then it sounds like youβre not a match. Congratulations! Youβre free to find someone who doesnβt bore you and isnβt bored by you.
[β]antonio_aurelio 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Stop pussy-pandering. It's shameful.
[β]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Stop making men look like you.
[β]Drougen 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop making any kind of human being look like you.
[β]antonio_aurelio 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine missing the point this hard, the point is the expectation to be entertaining falls solely on men
Imagine being so boring and feckless that you donβt expect the woman youβre with to not be boring either.
[β]ilovepetya 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmfao why are you such a pick me
[β]xxxLemonation 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Are you incapable of grasping the point? We don't wanna be treated as entertainment objects the same way women don't wanna be treated as sex objects.
[β]TotalTravestyNo Pill Male 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
YOUβRE BOTH SUPPOSED TO BE ENTERTAINMENT OBJECTS! If youβre so thirsty that youβll let any boring girl with the right parts in the right places win you over, thatβs your fault. You are allowed to expect her to entertain you too.
[β]TheSmallerGambler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This has nothing to do with the OP
[β]SlashCo80 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not about being boring, it's about being expected to entertain her just for the continued honor of talking to her. Stop trolling badly.
[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I'll take Using Misogyny to Cope with Heartbreak for 200, Alex!
[β]ilovepetya 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
How is this misogyny lmao
[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I'll take I'm not a misogynist! I just refuse to give women the benefit of the doubt! for 500, Alex!
[β]throwthatmfaway 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
And how exactly do you excuse this entitled trait tinder women have?
[β][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'll take Loaded Questions for 300, Alex!
[β]throwthatmfaway 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[β]hate_redditors 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'll take keeping the Jeopardy gimmick going to save face after confronted with a basic criticism for $420
I'll take Sense of Humor for 200, Alex!
[β]hate_redditors 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
200? you should take it for any price
[β]gothicSuperfluous 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why do redditors use shitty, overused lines and think theyβre funny
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'll take Striking a Raw Nerve for 200, Alex!
[β]gothicSuperfluous 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Clown moment π€‘
[β]lolomotif12 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Straight NEXT when I sense this.
[+]Sewud -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
I can entertain males, why can't you entertain females?
[β]sootlordRedPillCombustion[S] 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Doubt.
[β]upalse 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She means penbis in vagena by "entertain males". Imo it's all big talk as they're usually super reluctant to deliver.
[β]Drougen 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"I totally play blideo blames" OMG SO ENTERTAINING
[β]MrMescaline 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Go ahead. Try to be funny
[β]Genetic_PrisonerNo Pill 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Incoming vegana jokes
[β]AtomGalaxy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Donβt worry. I got this. It took me until my mid-30s and nine years of marriage to be funny around women who are also attractive.
My friends were talking about neat stuff they found in the random crap section at Aldi.
I replied: βWhat if the real beyond section isnβt at Bed, Bath, and Beyond but itβs at Aldi?β
βShow me wonders I cannot buy online. Show me mysteries that will bring a lesser man to tears. Leave me with the feeling experienced by the ancients in distant bazaars at the nexus of the Silk Road. Show me the 21st century version of a snake charmer or voodoo sorcerer bringing back the dead.β
[β]throwthatmfaway 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Lmao. You think you're entertaining cause the dudes trying to fuck your hole allow you to think so. Women think regurgitating lines from The Office is game.
[β]Sewud 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
The Office on imdb was rated by 233 191 males compared to 70 252 females, but sure, women are the ones responsible for ubiquitous "The Office jokes" π Actually I don't know if we should take this moment to realize that when trying to name something lame about women, you came up with something that is about men
[β]throwthatmfaway 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
You're actually so dense that you think the average Becky goes out of her way to rate shows on imdb? No. Nerds do. And Men outnumber women in Nerdsphere.
[β]Sewud 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
If you look at the ratings for Grey's Anatomy, it's more females than males.
[β]throwthatmfaway 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
an exception ?!?! π±
[β]Sewud 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
No my point is if a show is more watched by females, it gets more ratings from females. Imdb ratings overrepresent men due to men not being able to refrain sharing their opinion about everything as if everyone is dying to hear it, but not to the point of doubling or tripling the ratio. When you have a ratio of 23:7, that's a show that is more watched by men than by women.
[β]throwthatmfaway 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
I don't really care for imdb stats when my original point is that women have no game. And if we're gonna go with your goal posts its clear that women indulge in The Office more than men. "Looking for the Jim to my Pam" being so overused in tinder bios it became a meme.
[β]FatPam007 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women don't need to be funny because it's men who need to put all the effort to bang women. If women are funny is because they're just enjoying their time and not because they're desperate to stick their dicks somewhere... :)
[β]throwthatmfaway 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well you mfs are clearly miserable cause where are the funny women?
[β]kblkbl165Purple Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Where is it clear if the few viewer metrics we can grasp are invalidated byβ¦your experience with Office quotes on tinder?
[β]throwthatmfaway 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My original point had nothing to do with the show or the shows viewership. My original point was that women don't have game. But of course the random example I came up with is what got nit picked.
[–]kblkbl1652 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Jokeβs on you for taking the bait. I agree women have no game
[β]lemon-fiendi dont care about pills 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Shut your deformed toe looking ass up
just cause women donβt bother with you doesnβt mean they donβt put in their game for men they actually like lol
[β]throwthatmfaway 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
If I recall you said I was cute π. And I dont have problems w women. They have 0 game but they still make it clear they wanna smash and we do :)
[–][deleted]1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I was just trynna be nice.
[–]throwthatmfaway1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
don't be bratty cause we can't link π₯Ί
donβt be a misogynistic pig just cause itβs an anon platform π₯Ί
[–]throwthatmfaway2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
everything you disagree w isn't misogyny π₯Ί
you called me a slut on one of my previous postsβ¦ whyβre you such a dick like fr? do you have some medical issues?
It was a joke cause it's purge. But sorry if you were offended.
[β]gothicSuperfluous 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Make me laugh woman
[β]Commercial-Engineer3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes and I can teleport...
[β]Gofishingrn 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. SMH. Wait till the wall! π
[+]Mimoxs -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Y'all dudes are exposing yourselves these past few days
Not being boring to women is so easy
[β]throwthatmfaway 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How many times have you seen on r/tinder the dude spitting absolute game and the chick responds dry af with single words. All the time. Women are not easy to entertain because they have 40+ other dudes doing it. This is such an ignorant take but I expect nothing less from some broad with 0 experience dating hetero women.
[β]FatPam007 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The thing is that if you're really funny a woman will want you as a friend. If you're hot, a woman will want you as a lover. But if you're hot and too funny, you will loose attractiveness because men with chaotic funny crazy energy don't expell masculinity. Seriousness is a great characteristic in guys. Men that can take things seriously and in a mature way. I like funny guys as friends and mature and serious guys as lovers. Maybe it's me though. Everyone has different taste.
Yea I think it's just you.
[β]xxxLemonation 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I agree it easy, but how come it's expected of us but 90 percent of women are incapable of not being boring?
That means you just don get along with them. You need to find a woman you will get along with. There are many women out there with great personalities.
[β]xxxLemonation 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The personalities are not the problem, at least in my experience, it's the shit they talk about... it's fucking mind numbingly boring.
[β]DarkDoomDoom 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
it's not about being funny but being the one who has to entertain
[β]Mimoxs 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
So what? Each has their role. Women provide you with sex and chores and children, you have to offer SOMETHING in return. And these days most couples make similar salaries and women can provide for themselves, so you can't use that. What do you have to offer if not being enjoyable to be around?
[β]DarkDoomDoom 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
lol you are for equality when it comes to equal pay but when it's about dating you're all about traditional roles
[β]Mimoxs 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't really care about pay equality
You're not answering the question though. What do you have to offer? If you aren't enjoyable to be around, why should women date you? You have to have something.
[β]DarkDoomDoom 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
well it's simply that i don't give a fuck about your vagina, women mistake is thinking that men need sex. That's why you think it's fair to ask being entertained because "i bring pUsSy on the table".
Men are happy without sex, it just that we're educated to believe we need female validation. It turns out that we don't.
But they're literally talk about dudes on tinder. It's okay if you don't want sex, but guys on tinder always want sex.
[β]meshflesh40 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Sex? Men can provide sex. Chores? Men can do their own chores? Children? You cant have that without a man.
Soo...
[β]Mimoxs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
But those are things men generally want that women can live just fine without. Women don't really value sex, it's something you want not us. A lot of women actively dislike or dread it, and plenty can take it or leave it and don't care
Men don't want to do chores they want to push it off on a woman, statistically
The biggest eye opener/surprise of adulthood tbh was realizing just how many women don't actually like or desire kids, it's largely the husband wanting kids and she does it bc she wants him to be happy. It's wild seeing the pattern over and over of new parents/soon to be parents where the dad is ecstatic while the mom is apathetic and disengaged, or how many moms will admit in private they had kids for his sake.
[β]FatPam007 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Also you see sex as a mean of exchange. Just like money. You see sex like, you do this and I give you sex. Well, sex is not money. Sex should be enjoyed by both parts. Unless you're a prostitute you usually don't sell your body or sex for other things. So a guy needing to provide or something like that in exchange of sex is ridiculous. Sex is about pleasure and satisfaction. If a man has sexually satisfied you, he doesn't owe you anything. Unless he wants to voluntarily date you or something like that. Same for women, you don't owe anything to anyone.
[β]Mimoxs 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sex is about pleasure and satisfaction. If a man has sexually satisfied you, he doesn't owe you anything
You fail to understand how many women don't care about this and don't want or need it. A man needs to have something to offer that I actually want. Sex is just an annoyance and chore, it detracts from his value to me and won't be enjoyable or "satisfying" no matter what he does
That's really weird to say. Many women are really really sexual and they enjoy sex as much as men. Maybe you're asexual if you don't enjoy having sex
[β]C4yourshelf 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So you're saying you'll do all the chores for your man and have sex whenever he wants if he's entertaining all the time?
[β]GacktRed Pill Man 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not totally clueless but can you expand like a bit
[β]methamphetamile 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be glad youβre not dressing up and performing an elaborate dance like other animals.
[β]pubgmisc -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its the illusion of choice. Conflicting sex and relationship attention + can she even make a lemonade though?
[β]Willow-girlLiving simply so cows can simply live. -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[β]sootlordRedPillCombustion[S] 19 points20 points21 points (2 children) | Copy Link
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[β]throwthatmfaway 6 points7 points8 points (20 children) | Copy Link
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