Why are you guys so cynical?

goneaway2thewind · 2020-07-23T19:13:47+00:00

Gain enough experience and watch enough denial of the truth and you'll be the same way. Also, putting agency on the average behaviors of a gender isn't resentment, we just don't sugarcoat here because discussion would get no where if we pretended everyone behaves morally.

CuriousIncel2 · 2020-07-23T19:21:55+00:00

Trying to be nice and avoid offending others is why society is in a shithole. It's where the oppression Olympics begins.

Key is to remain disaffected and stare at the harsh truths being presented (unless the post is nothing but vitreol in which case learn to ignore)

mensahi41 · 2020-07-23T19:04:42+00:00

You could stop coming here?

xFallacyx69 · 2020-07-23T19:23:00+00:00

I’m not cynical, my marriage was awesome. I’m happier now that I’m divorced, but it was still awesome and I learned A LOT.

Imagine being told to just be a good person, and you spend a decade working your tail off, spending tons of money, and sacrificing as much as you possibly can just to be told that you’re a piece of human garbage unworthy of love while the person you sacrificed so much for leaves with a guy who doesn’t care about her. She takes half of the money you worked hard for a parties it up with this guy while he treats her like garbage and cheats on her... does that guy get to feel jaded? Of course!!

Now imagine you do the same as a woman, you give your best and sacrifice so much and have a kid with a man who decides that he wants a family with some other woman. They get your kid, and the new woman treats that kid like garbage while you struggle to spend time with the kid (sharing custody). He was a POS with you, but he works hard to provide for his new family while his wife sits at home and sleeps with the pool boy/UPS guy/etc. Does she get to feel jaded? Of course!!

Bottom line, don’t go on Reddit to validate your experience. Life is short, go live it... don’t have regrets about things you never got around to. Treat everyone with respect when they EARN it and demand respect in return when you EARN it.

SaBahRub · 2020-07-23T20:39:33+00:00

Then don’t hang out here?

I just come here to watch the toddler sandbox fight. I’m years into a stable relationship

noafrochamplusamurai · 2020-07-23T23:41:59+00:00

Here's the truth, toxic inputs, will get you toxic outputs. The men that have problems dating. Usually have bad personalities. Those that complain the most, are usually the worst offenders.

They are cynical, because they lose in the dating game. They lose in the dating game because they have poor personalities, which make them more cynical. Its a loop that keeps repeating until they break the cycle, and fix their personalities.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2020-07-23T19:11:22+00:00

You'll get to our level, sweety.

PickleLine · 2020-07-23T19:21:05+00:00

We're here to debate. Why would we be nice to each other besides a low-level of civility required for debates?

ARFARFMF · 2020-07-23T19:27:05+00:00

Well you can't really express cynicism irl without a lot of social consequences.

John_Oakman · 2020-07-23T23:02:44+00:00

For a lot of them, it brings them a sense of comfort and rationalization of their lot in life. It isn't their fault that they're in a bad place, but rather the game's rigged from the start and the system needs to be toppled (to their favor). Also martyrdom complex.

Cobra_x30 · 2020-07-23T19:28:58+00:00

Life greatly favors cynicism. That doesn't mean that the world doesn't have rainbows.

The key is to understand women and accept them. You can have a happy life and never understand, or be delusional about them. You can understand and not accept, which is the path of misery. But when you can do both then you will be a man of wisdom and maturity, because in accepting women as they are, you also will find yourself understanding and accepting your own nature.

psypD · 2020-07-23T19:51:54+00:00

The more time I spent on this subreddit the more "depressed" (probably sad I actually get about how older adults are depicting the world).

Oh, my sweet summer child, we are actually trying to sugar coat it. The "world" is even worse.

usa_foot_print · 2020-07-23T19:07:13+00:00

The more time I spent on this subreddit the more "depressed" (probably sad I actually get about how older adults are depicting the world).

That's honestly reddit as a whole. While the English language is very precise, its still not precise enough. Online arguments are always going to come out of almost every discussion board. The arguments rarely are in good spirit. Your best bet is to leave internet discussion altogether. Non-verbal communication is a key component in understanding what people are saying but that can't be conveyed online, even with video accurately.

Workaholiconew · 2020-07-23T19:58:30+00:00

The more correct term is "skeptical". Some may be cynical, but how most behave here and what you described is skeptical and blunt, not exactly cynical. Do not worry, many mistake these 2.

We are skeptical because we want to be sure about how reality is. we are skeptical about the findings of most so we put it in repeated trials to see if which hypotheses survive the trials of empirical data.

I.e. we are skeptical, by the same reason scientists are skeptical. To know better. And unfortunately, reality is usually worse than most suppose.

PPD is a debate sub, you should leave if you still cannot accept the bad side of reality without ending up sad yourself. You will grow to accept it with age.

2020-07-23T20:15:06+00:00

For me there is absolutely no resentment. There is just logical, pragmatic understanding of how people are. So understand their actions and what compels those actions so that you're never disappointed, but also never caught off guard should the worst case scenario happen. Just be ready to bounce at a moment's notice but 99% of the time, you'll be disappointed. The other 1% of the time, call it serendipitous and enjoy it while it lasts.

To me, this sub just helps to understand how people really are versus what they say. Once you understand how to see things for what they really are (TRP), you're never disappointed.

Suck-Less · 2020-07-23T22:23:31+00:00

This is the only subreddit that I know of where we can have actual discussion on this subject from both sides without getting blocked or banned.

It’s not always cynical, it’s.... blunt AF. There’s a difference.

2020-07-23T22:39:12+00:00

I'm not super cynical, this sub gets on my nerves too. But I think some people have way worse experiences in life than others, and that's what causes them to form cynical views. I'd really try not to take this sub (and the people on it) so seriously if I were you. You have no idea what they're actually like in real life, or what life experiences they've had.

decoy88 · 2020-07-23T23:49:43+00:00

Read some of my posts instead

2020-07-24T02:01:42+00:00

Lool you think only old people talk like this....

No. Your mentality is how things got so bad. The road to hell is paved with Good intentions.

I would rather you be honest with me then be nice. I would rather you be honest with Billy then set him up for a lifetime of disappointment

I am being honest when I say the things I say, as humanly as I can. If that means am an asshole so be it. The truth is an asshole in this age I suppose.

GGMcThroway · 2020-07-24T16:05:20+00:00

People would rather pretend that life is a videogame where you have to have certain stats or else you're unlovable than actually improve themselves as people and learn how to form genuine connections. Lots of people here could benefit from therapy.

Majorian420 · 2020-07-23T19:37:37+00:00

Honestly, I feel like FDSers and Redpillers are two sides of the same coin. Their both jaded and bitter by their experiences from the other sex, that almost borders on hatred.

I want to know the demographics of this place, but Im willing to bet the majority are older, in their 30s and 40s and predominantly white. Im in my early 20s and Latino, so I feel like I can’t relate to alot of the experiences on here and frankly I don’t want to. I pity them.

I relate this sexist attitude towards an entire gender the same way I look at racism. I’ve experienced racism throughout my life from white people, but it hasn’t made me jaded or make me hate white people. Some of the greatest people I know are white, who I would have never met or missed out if I let the actions of a few who discriminated against me sour a whole race.

I hold the individual responsible not the race. Just like I judge the individual not the gender. Its important to remember their are bad women just like there are good women, and theres good men just like there are bad men. Theres great and mediocre people of all shades out there, and I refuse to let a couple bad experiences make me bitter.

Slayermog · 2020-07-23T20:27:59+00:00

You think people are cynical here? Did you just get out of internet preschool and you’re shocked that kids are saying bad words in middle school? Just fucking lol

12112019 · 2020-07-23T21:12:45+00:00

Being too agreeable is a major problem, being nice is overrated, being truthful even if the truth is unpleasant is actually the most productive thing to do.

For instance women in this age are being cuddled: You are a princess, all women are beautiful, you deserve the best...

The truth is that she probably is average, doesn't deserve the best and should be truly thankful that she is born in a western country and not treated as cattle like in other countries.

When you grow up you just get sick of that PC BS, you want people to say what they truly believe and not mumble the same groupthink BS that everyone else are.

BachelorofBabylon · 2020-07-24T05:31:03+00:00

All the non cynical people have either left or been banned. Online is now meant to drag you down.

2020-07-24T16:23:51+00:00

Because women are liars. Thankfully I never had to learn it the hard way like a lot of men.

I grew up as a poor black boy in the middle of a big American city. I dug myself out. Hard not to be cynical after the shit I've been through.

cloud-pill · 2020-07-23T19:40:18+00:00

There aren't enough gay people in the sub.

Mimoxs · 2020-07-23T19:39:47+00:00

The men who are cynical usually can't get women, the women who are cynical usually have been victims of some sort or got burned, usually multiple times. Failure and victimization/hurt breed cynicism.

Plus when you bring in two very radically opposing groups of cynical people, they fuel each other. The bitter attitudes of the women here confirms to men that wahmen aren't the angels they believed they were, the psychopathic statements of the men here make women more afraid and bitter towards them.

TheGirlGetter9000 · 2020-07-23T20:27:35+00:00

I don’t know what to tell you other than that learning how the opposite gender works doesn’t need to be a negative thing. I’ve had a lot of fun doing it and a lot of fun benefitting from it. Women are cool. They’re just different from men.

thetruthishere_ · 2020-07-23T21:25:32+00:00

I dont have resentment at all towards men.

I experience the opposite from things said here a lot.

Also being aware is not resentment.

BachelorofBabylon · 2020-07-23T19:22:07+00:00

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BROWN-TOILET-PAPER · 2020-07-23T22:12:32+00:00

Most people are cynical here because most people aren't young like yourself. You can't be cynical about what you haven't experienced.

Grave_Heresy · 2020-07-24T02:17:47+00:00

What you are seeing is a glimpse into the future of romance.

Save yourself GYOW

Laytheblameonluck · 2020-07-24T06:29:10+00:00

This stuff does do that, make people cynical, so if in doubt take a break.

Zippo-Cat · 2020-07-24T08:45:52+00:00

I don't get the resentment for each other.

Keep lurking then. Especially during purges. That's a real eye opener.

Sepean · 2020-07-24T09:21:50+00:00

The cynical ones are the losers who don’t follow the red pill advice. The guys who lift, alpha up and learn game, the girls who put effort into their looks and being feminine, they have a great time.

JesterMcGavin · 2020-07-24T10:26:15+00:00

Lol :D

Ah, to be young.

i_amtheice · 2020-07-24T13:38:08+00:00

We’ve all been hurt.

AdolfGandi · 2020-07-24T16:21:16+00:00

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Sid_Insidious · 2020-07-24T22:56:56+00:00

I you don't like cynical, avoid divorced men like me. And hell, my divorce went comparatively WELL compared to a lot of men. But it was still the worst thing that happened to me so far in life and it was 8 years ago and I'll still a shadow of the person I used to be. It really took that much out of me.

I was cynical BEFORE I got married.

Marriage made me MORE CYNICAL.

Divorce made me ultra mechagodzilla CYNICAL.

AdolfGandi · 2020-07-25T00:33:24+00:00

I've been lied to by women my entire life. Of course I'm bitter about it. I'm the second choice beta cuck they marry for money after spending most of their life trying to get fuckboys to commit. I'm a pretty caring and loving dude but they see me as weak so I guess I deserve to be alone.

jackandjill22 · 2020-07-25T03:20:13+00:00

Shit gets really bad as you get older. Dissolutionment quicky becomes reality.

daddysgotanew · 2020-07-25T03:34:34+00:00

Putting aside the good or bad of it, cynical people are more intelligent and more observant, and have better critical thinking ability as a general rule. Think of every happy go lucky person you know who thinks the world is all unicorn farts and rainbows. They’re usually not that smart.

throw-away-1709 · 2020-07-25T10:05:04+00:00

We are not cynical at all. We are realistic. You are young and naive.

We see the world through own experience not throgh a Disney or Hollywood lens.

SuitableStart · 2020-07-25T10:06:00+00:00

Because if you aren't cynical you get burned harder by life.

SplushkaMcOwlFace · 2020-07-23T19:17:09+00:00

If you are not dating better do not read this sub. You will get traumatized and won't be able to look at men without disgust. Only people with established relationships can survive here.

Dora_Bowl · 2020-07-23T19:20:30+00:00

I am not and I have no idea who this is being addressed to.

Title	Why are you guys so cynical?
Author	mensahi41
Upvotes	14
Comments	123
Date	July 23, 2020 7:01 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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