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Title	Simple Questions
Author	AutoModerator
Upvotes	13
Comments	79
Date	March 1, 2017 3:06 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/5wwe1d/simple_questions/
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I'm late to the party but wanted to spill some first and second hand tea. I'm 24, met my SO 3.5 years ago. Monogamous LTR LDR. swoon

Some of my girl friends and I spun a different plate every week/few weeks depending on our other goals/responsibilities and the nature of the plate. The range of experiences we had with our partners also varied drastically... I never sealed the deal with anyone, whereas other friends did so adventurously. The longer this spinning went on, the more everyone seemed to get bored with it or not have time for it any more.

Some of us maintained monogamous LTR's, again with varying degrees of celibacy/virginity.

The only thing that was consistent among us all was holding to personal standards of our own conduct, not settling for sub-standard partners, and not taking excessive risks (YMMV here, but we were all pretty insistent on testing, even so far as going to the university clinic together.)

I'm not sure what deception has to do with this, other than people deceiving themselves that AWALT is imperviously solid footing to stand on when it comes to sexual history and preference. I suppose anything is possible, though.

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You can view that the sign of success and what people brag about at TRP is to have as much sex with as many women while giving nothing in return, marriage means less women and more responsibilities.

This is what I have a problem understanding. At the same time they are saying AWALT, repeating how all women fall for the same game and brag about banging a lot of women. If it's the same principle then where's the difference between fucking 10 and 100 women? It's the same difference there is between solving 10 and 100 polynomial integrals. You get the principle, now you're just repeating it, there's not much success in that, is it?

After you learn to solve polynomial integrals it's time to let them go and move on to the bigger and more complex problems. It shouldn't be about gaming women anymore, real men starts to lead other men, he starts to conquer nature and make a world a better place. He should lead his woman, his children, his employees, not go the the bars and pick up young naive girls. At least this is how things are in my country. It's not the women who shame such men, it's the other men, for them he's like that boy going around bragging about solving 5th degree polynomial integral while they are deep into complex analysis. And a wife is there just like Wolfram Alpha, she's reliable and does job well so that he doesn't waste time on solving problems that are now trivial for him. And yes, from the point of view of that boy they seem lesser since they are using a program but that's not the case.

Again, this is how most older men in my country see things, and I think this is the right approach. But then again, maybe I'm biased since I grew up in such environment.

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That is because you are confusing your goals (or what you want men's goal to be) with their actual goals.

You can view that the sign of success and what people brag about at TRP is to have as much sex with as many women while giving nothing in return, marriage means less women and more responsibilities.

That is exactly what they want. There is no incentive for them to take on more responsibility in exchange for less fun. It's like you're asking them to stop playing with their dog and spend more time at the office, without getting paid for it. Yes, the second one is harder, but harder tasks aren't necessarily valueable or worthwhile just because they are harder.

What makes a relationship valuable to you is that you enjoy being in one, and you enjoy spending time in a relationship more than "just getting sex". There might be some level of difficulty in maintaining one for you, but you don't get into them for the opportunity to do something hard. You enjoy the value they add to your life.

The secret is that men, even red pill men, can find the same value in relationships that we do. The trick though is showing them that it can be a worthwhile experience by creating a positive environment that they want to be in. But if you expect them to "man up" and grind through relationships solely because "it's getting sex on hard mode", you are going to find more men checking out of the dating game.

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Taking responsibility is what gives life a meaning. Most people who have money and don't need to work, have all the hedonistic needs met are depressed or get depressed in time.

False dichotomy. Taking responsibility does not necessarily mean "getting into a relationship". There are many places people can channel responsibility and feel satisfaction, work, their selves, family, etc.

Actually, I think responsibility is the wrong word all together. It is not "responsibility" that gives people satisfaction in their lives. It is working hard to achieve something meaningful.

Like I said before, responsibility is just work if it doesn't come with a reward, and happiness isn't derived from that. Happiness is derived from achievements that you worked hard for.

For many of these men, they worked hard to become the sort of man who can get sex on cue, and being that sort of man is a huge accomplishment to them. It is like a very rich man buying a Ferrari. The achievement isn't buying a Ferrari, it is becoming a rich man. Buying the Ferrari is only an reward or indulgence to himself from the work he already put in.

These men have taken "responsibility" for their own lives by becoming better, more attractive men. Now they are reaping the rewards. Trying to say that their lives are empty simply comes from your differences in priorities in what makes life meaningful.

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I think they use the same information to achieve different things. If a man wants to get married to a great woman and have kids, he can use TRP to find a quality woman to marry. If a woman wants to get married to a great man, she can use RPW to vet men and find a husband. The knowledge of the differences between the sexes helps you to attract a quality partner, keep them once you have them, and have a happy and harmonious relationship.

Similarly, if your goal as a man is to have fun and get laid as much as possible, TRP can help with that too by teaching about the differences between the sexes and what women find attractive. And if a woman wants to have fun and get a lot of high-quality partners, knowledge of RPW can help her with that by teaching her what men find attractive.

So the information is about the differences between men and women, how you use that information is up to you. It's like there being two forums all about nutrition which divide into those wanting to bulk up and those wanting to slim down. They are using the same information but for different purposes. At least that's the way I see it.

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