Society despises low-value men.

Cypher211 · 2015-01-19T21:16:31+00:00

/u/illimitableman had a really great quote from one of his submissions which I think can be perfectly applied in this context:

Be powerful if you want to be loved, or you will never be loved. You will be held in contempt for being weak.

Men generally don't have a lot of safety nets. Society won't give you the same sympathy as a man that it would if you were a woman going through hard times.

abdada · 2015-01-19T20:53:00+00:00

The funny thing is, a lot of Hollywood's famed actors use both Bosley and elevator shoes. So it's definitely better to keep these things to yourself because females want good genes, not hard work and parlor tricks. It's also why I tend to avoid women who have to get all glammed up before going out.

I met a famous singer who everyone (and himself) says is 6'1". He was at a pool party. He was about my height (5'8"). Oops.

rockoverchicago · 2015-01-20T05:54:28+00:00

dildo = female sexual empowerment!

flesh light = loser who can't get laid!!!!

Padre55 · 2015-01-20T00:28:55+00:00

All the more reason to not give two damns what society thinks when it applies to oneself. One of Greene's dictums, law 25, never let others define you. As soon as you then you are doomed, fits the female imperative to a "T".

Too short..no you are to tall ya Amazonian wench etc etc

OakTr3E · 2015-01-20T06:52:00+00:00

Feminist thinking in italic

Well it´s the female+feminist narrative extrapolated unto society.

Beauty is a female trait but with female hamstering men and women are alike. Therefore beauty is a human trait and women "must be forced" to put on make up via patriarchy while men get away because they are not oppressed.

So the male population is both accused of oppressing women while women get the power of artificially raising their SMV through beauty products. Women - Men, 2 - 0

Power is a male trait but with female hamstering men and women are alike. Therefore power is a human trait and since top people (bottom people are ignored) with power are male "the patriarchy must give men an advantage".

So the male population is both shamed for opressing women and women get free stuff from the government and the white knights in everyday life. Women - Men, 4 - 0

And as you say. If you advertise how much effort you put in towards self-improvement you will be seen as low value and women will discard you mentally (forgotten). Hence why successful men know to shut up about their hard work (be humble and/or proud, don't explain) and therefore seem like "men have it easier", reinforcing the idea of the patriarchy.

Different outcomes for different genders are seen as proof for discrimination. Not as proof for our big differences. Women are jealous of what men achieve but do not see the drawbacks. They think we have it all. All their benefits + the extras that comes with VIP membership in the patriarchy (being a white cis-male).

You can't reason with these feminists :)

redpilltom · 2015-01-20T02:45:53+00:00

Compound this by most women's gut reaction to men giving each other actual advice that works to be more attractive to women (aka stuff that is field tested and proven to work and not "be yourself, just be sweet and nice, worrying about getting laid is lame and vain, aim to be marriage material) and you get a perfect concoction to keep men from upwards mobility.

I remember reading a story about a Chinese (I believe) man who dumped his wife after she gave birth to an ugly baby, finding out that she had loads of plastic surgery. Women were bemoaning him as a horrible, superficial man who should love his wife despite how she got to where she is. I guarantee these same women would think very lowly of their partner if they found out he learned PUA stuff to get her.

SlickBlackCadillac · 2015-01-19T21:13:01+00:00

It makes sense. A man is capable of siring 100+ children is his lifetime. Society doesn't need or want that many kids from a man that relied on said parlor tricks.

A woman may be capable of having ~6 kids in her lifetime by comparison. Does society really care if we let a few uglies slip through the cracks?

DaegobahDan · 2015-01-19T22:40:43+00:00

this is a hundred percent the result of society being feminized. the reason it's unacceptable to do this kind of thing isn't because society hates low value men, it's because women don't want to be tricked into dating a low value man. because women are currently controlling the social dialoguedialogue, it's their opinions are the ones that matter. in older more quote "traditional" societies, low value men still had a very important social purpose as workers, as soldiers, as providers for low value women,and as general followers of high-ranking men (i.e.it's hard to be a leader with no one to lead).

BlueFreedom420 · 2015-01-20T05:07:02+00:00

Government loves low value men. They try so hard to buy into the system. New age serfs.

bobbatosakosanose · 2015-01-20T01:09:36+00:00

Society uses high value men as tools. Same shit. Fuck society.

RAGING_ERECTION · 2015-01-20T12:15:00+00:00

Even though there are way more low SMV men than women (80/20), low SMV women have plenty of safety nets and systems in place to either raise their SMV or give them the same power that those 8's, 9's and 10's have (this is a major part of feminism - giving low SMV women power, hence why the majority of feminists are fatties).

If you are a low SMV man you have absolutely NOTHING to help you. All you get is disgust from everyone around you. This is why male homelessness and male suicide rates are though the roof. Either you are constantly improving your SMV or you will end up homeless, jobless and will probably end up killing yourself.

mormon-nigger · 2015-01-20T06:26:20+00:00

Women have been pushing up their boobs for hundreds of years. What a lot of guys don't realize is they can use similar things to improve their appearance and hence attractiveness. Hair and makeup can do wonders for a girl. Hair and clothes can do wonder for a guy. Play to your strengths

Dronitto · 2015-01-20T02:08:10+00:00

Despises low value men- yes. But what about low value women? Well, they'll give them anything. Look at social services. Look who they support mostly. In 99% social help is a fucking mistake.

twistedbrother2 · 2015-01-20T15:39:20+00:00

Get rudimentary: men are supposed to not be girlish, vain narcissists who obsess over their looks. Men aren't supposed to care if they're bald or short, they're supposed to be men and move on.

paracog · 2015-01-19T23:19:31+00:00

In the past, there were monastic orders for lower value men to take refuge in. I think the MGTOW movement has some of that spirit and wouldn't be surprised if some sort of secular version of that sort of support and edification social structure started crystallizing. Edit: I've been checking out the historical phenomenon of mutual benefit societies, and the idea of those for men is appealing. Free-standing, no attached to any larger organization where oppression can be brought to bear, self sustaining... I guess men's clubs like the Elks, Shriners, etc have some element of this, but I'm thinking much more independent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_society

GhostOfAladdin · 2015-01-20T01:06:56+00:00

That's what fuels consumerism. Put down the males, so they need to buy stuff to make themselves temporarily feel better.

I see males going into the beer store down the street at all times of the day.

4_YRT · 2015-01-19T23:24:51+00:00

Have you ever noticed how there are all these products designed to cover up women's flaws (makeup, hair extensions, push-up bras) and that they are socially acceptable and even encouraged, while the select few products that exist to cover up men's flaws (Bosley, shoe lifts) are mocked.

a feminist would cite this as evidence of the Patriarchy. Women are taught that they have to achieve some artificial standard of beauty by covering her flaws, where men are mocked for doing the same.

ateyelevel · 2015-01-20T22:02:55+00:00

What's Up With All Of The Hate For Short Dudes?

HauntedBeepers · 2015-01-20T16:11:02+00:00

It's more about men not being allowed to show insecurity. When men show insecurity, women totally lose interest. Makeup, Bosley, shoe lifts....all of these things announce insecurity through a megaphone.

QuidulusBroQuo · 2015-01-20T00:06:46+00:00

I think that this has more to do with those products displaying insecurity. If you aren't confident in what you were given then you aren't a true alpha. It shows that you care too much about what others think of you, a trait that highlights low value.

HAQ_be · 2015-01-19T23:20:17+00:00

About flaws: check kim dotcom's (now ex-)wife. It doesnt matter.. these flaws are created by women for women imo

-Tyler_Durden- · 2015-01-20T04:55:02+00:00

When it comes to humans, nature does her experimentation with males. We have a larger standard deviation on all the physical and mental variables.

As compared to women, there are more male geniuses and more male dolts. There are more extremely tall men and more extremely short men (when the average 5" gender difference is taken into account). There is just more variety when it comes to the male of the species.

The 80/20 rule is engrained in our DNA. Before civilization, a mediocre male was ejected from the tribe and was left to live a solitary life with little or no chance to reproduce. The mediocre females were kept because eggs are expensive and the difference between the average female and a top quintile female wasn't that significant.

So yes, the low value man is despised. They are the worker drones for our society; they are the most disposable.

csmass · 2015-01-20T01:04:41+00:00

Height isn't important if you are 5' 7". That is the cut off line, and even that is due to our culture. Think about it, 50-100 years ago the average height for men was 5' 6" - 5' 7". Many men back then weren't even close to 6', and they still married and had children. This whole be 6' thing was only pushed recently, and anything past 5' 7" is a bonus in women's eyes. As long as you have good game, take good care of yourself, and don't take shit from others you will be fine.

bobbatosakosanose · 2015-01-20T04:05:31+00:00

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barbacoabeans · 2015-01-19T22:44:13+00:00

I learned very quickly that speaking of The Red Pill will get you ignored or even hated. I once told a female about the red pill. She was ugly I didn't really intend to bone her, I was just mentioning the red pill in passing. She looked it up on her phone and went all feminist bonanzas on me. She clawed out my left eye and I had to get a fucking eye patch. But hey the ladies like scars after all haha. I pressed charges but she got off with fucking community service. Damn pussy pass.

Title	Society despises low-value men.
Author	nikolathevisionary
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Date	January 19, 2015 8:50 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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