Being seen as boyfriend material but not hookup potential

BeneficialWallaby660 · 2026-01-21T19:16:41+00:00

Try talking to the ones who put out they don't want a relationship.

If you don't care jus tell them you want something casual/open

There's always a chance they don't find you attractive and just enjoy free dates

Broad-Cranberry-9050 · 2026-01-21T19:32:09+00:00

For your first problem, i think your problem is how you present yrouself. I had a similar issue, im more BF material than hookup material because of how i presented myself. Always really respectful, talked abut life goals, etc. Girls appreciate that in a man they want to marry but not a man they just wnat to hookup with. I had to learn how to get more playful and talk more in the moment than of the future. It's hard because it kind of requires changing who you are but it's possible. I dont know you so maybe im wrong but i would say address how you present yourself. Are you the guy that everybody thinks, he's got his head straight? He's a good man? etc. If you are than you are likely giving husband vibes, not hookup vibes.

For your second issue, it just depends on the woman, you cant force that on them. Ill give you some tips but know it wont be 100% success rate. But for you if you are getting kisses, that's good. But it's all on how much fun this girl is having. Guys value sex, girls value having a fun time. So id say focus more on the amount of fun she is having. It can't just be she laughed at a few of your jokes, it has to be she is legit having so much fun that she doesnt want it to end.

When you kiss, Id suggest not giving her a full makeout sesh if it's not clear that it's headed to sex. Because the thing is, girls get slut shamed for less. So they dont want to risk the shaming for a ONS. So you have to find a way to lead it there but also make it clear that she can end the night whenever she wants and you are ok with that. me and my friend had this debate because we constantly would make otu with girls but it lead nowhere. Something we devised is if we had a really fun night and knew the girl was into us, we'd lean in closer towards nights end, grab her waist, give her a kiss and say "so what's the plan for after?" if the girl was into it she'd say "idk what were you thinking?" and then i'd respond with "i was thinking to continue the fun and maybe drink a bottle of wine back at my place". You arent saying "come hom eiwht me and fuck" you are bascially saying "here's an idea, i know you want to continue the night and you can end it whenever". But it also requires you to be ok that it might not end in sex. if she gets there drinks 2 glasses and goes home, let her go home. She might respect that more than if you tried to make it happen and she'd be back for seconds and the 2nd time she'll likely stay the night. So on dates, be more suggestive if it went that way. Big makeout sessions, youa re giving her too much too early. She may go home and say "that was fun but he clearly wants sex and i can get that with other men if i wanted to". But if you give her a good kiss but not everything you got, she may want more and you can just be like "well you gotta earn that".

PostAvailable9966 · 2026-01-21T19:24:51+00:00

The thing in general is that timing of sex determines the direction of the relationship.

Within 2-3 dates (ideally first) -> you determine the direction

Date 3 + -> usually its a relationship (in her head).

So your question, realistically, is how fast you can get to sex.

A guide for Fast Escalation is here, but the overall point from your position, is to crush and burn, until you figure out the limits

MrMetraGnome · 2026-01-22T07:49:01+00:00

Gotta hit the gym, dress like a slut, speak in short but impactful sentences.

JackSquirts · 2026-01-21T21:01:40+00:00

You give off boyfriend vibes - aka, you're investing in things that give her strong emotions beyond the sexual.

Im guessing you're probably getting into her thoughts, feelings, future, family, etc, etc. If you want a hookup, best start with treating her like a hookup. It's all fun and flirty, but heavier towards the naughty/sexual side, lots of touch escalation and bolder moves in general. If you dont have your shit together though, youll crash and burn on those bold moves, potentially getting into creep territory. So, dont be a creep and escalate out of nowhere, rather ebb and flow through the progression. Have to be real keyed in on her reactions.

LonerOnSorensen · 2026-01-21T19:51:22+00:00

Sorry based upon what you have typed, we will need to review your dating profile and examples of initial messages in order to determine where you are going wrong. You will need to quickly establish that you sexually desire them, whether conveyed through pics or text, even before the date.

ImpossibleWaiting · 2026-01-21T19:26:20+00:00

You're too nice and too kind. You've got to work on your sexuality, the r-selection. Read Daygame Mastery by Krauser.

Top_Expression6040 · 2026-01-21T20:13:39+00:00

How old are you man? Feel like that would help with context

PainKilla17 · 2026-01-22T00:33:13+00:00

You sound like you might have the nice guy syndrome like me. Almost every girl wants to be in a relationship, but in my case they particularly want more because I make them feel great emotionally and physically. I have a cute face and that doesn’t help with this either.

If a girl could sense that you’re only making her sexually aroused but emotionally she’s better off not connecting with you, she’d be down to just have sex. Those are what my FWBs have been like. But in your case, she might be sensing that she might end up with feelings.

I’d say don’t think about it too much, just focus on being slightly more cocky. You are who you are at the end of the day. Show her you’re a great guy to fuck but not great to be in a relationship with. You don’t have to be a complete asshole, but quite frankly, you have to be a little.

UnparliamentaryTea · 2026-01-21T20:41:12+00:00

How old are you and what sorts of dates are you going on?

Coffee dates in the middle of the day vs. grabbing drinks late night on a weekend give off different vibes.

On your second point, like someone else also said, are you kissing them at your place or theirs (somewhere private) or like out on the street at the end of a date? If it’s the latter, just see if they’re down to go back to your place. Much easier to escalate from there, things “just happen.”

I know it probably feels forward from your perspective, but since it sounds like you’re not a super pushy guy, most women will see that as a really normal bid/offer than as an imposition

Dandys3107 · 2026-01-22T00:59:26+00:00

First thing, women are rarely straightforward about wanting to hookup, they don't want to be perceived as easy and they need a warmup to feel horny and open sexually to a stranger anyways. Focus on presenting sexually attractive traits that are appealing to our primal instincts, even if they are a bit indecent or cocky. Also, trigger strong emotions in them and touch sexual sphere in your conversation. Keep increasing the tension, don't stop but don't get dull about it either. Take care about proper logistics. Don't care too much about conducting a date, activities, approval, dull interview topics and typical scenarios, think more about animalistic attraction between man and woman. Don't get too fancy, get to the thing, women like that about men, but still you need to go with it under the radar of social culture so the girl won't feel awkward about it.

RubenAndJavi · 2026-01-22T09:59:37+00:00

Your problem is almost surely related to the fact that you don't sexually flirt. Most women won't be rationally and consciously willing to hookup, it's more like they get horny with a guy they find attractive and they just do it.

Since you get dates, you're probably attractive, now you only need to get them horny.

Remarkable_Outside67 · 2026-01-22T11:09:14+00:00

I get you, because I’ve been in your position a few times myself. And honestly, the only real way is to tell the woman how you feel — saying something like, “I feel like tonight with you we could take things a bit further,” or something along those lines. Yeah, it might sound a little awkward, but that’s exactly the point: stepping out of that “safe frame” you’re both stuck in.

Kissing all night is fine, of course, but there are moments when you have to be a bit more direct. Otherwise, you just end up stuck in endless dates that never go anywhere.

kelleykraft · 2026-01-21T21:42:11+00:00

Grab em by the pussy. Not literally, but you get what I mean. Burn the bridge. Make it obvious to the point where she either gets irredeemably offended, or goes along with it.

Certain_Process_7657 · 2026-01-21T20:20:00+00:00

None of this necessarily means the women think of you as boyfriend material. Just because she agrees to go on a second date with you and kiss you briefly, doesn't mean she considers you bf material.

To get to boyfriend level, you need to establish a strong physical connection first. You didn't provide that much detail, but I'd say it sounds like you just need to be more direct/assertive when escalating.

Never ask for a kiss. If you want more of a proper make out, some women prefer to that in more private environments rather than in a public venue.

markus_hates_reddit · 2026-01-21T21:12:54+00:00

Means they see you as safe and sweet, but not much more.

Matter_Still · 2026-01-21T20:19:09+00:00

I’d guess you don’t mention you just want to get laid and that you desire FWB status, which is essentially a license to have sex repeatedly, without commitment, or any distinct boundaries.

I don’t know how this FWB thing started; my guess is with high school kids. More mature men and women should have known better. “Friends with Benefits” is marked by uncertainty, and uncertainty is unsustainable. As someone very clever pointed out, Friends with Benefits is “Schrodinger’s Relationship: you’re in a relationship and you’re not at the same time. (This was written in “The Science Of Why Friends With Benefits Doesn’t Work” in an article on Medium.)

The same person noted (after going that route) that you might be getting “certain physical and attention-related perks from a FWB relationship, but without the love, commitment and stability of an official partnership.” The foundation is built on shifting sands and when the waves roll in—potentially jealousy, one person developing feelings for the other, the casual aspect of the relationship giving way to something more intimate and dramatic, it’s no longer a “win-win”.

Ultimately, about 1:4 revert to friends—no sex, and 1:3 stop seeing each other entirely. Another 25%-28% just feel “stuck”.

My second assumption is that if you confide your true intentions to many women (I just need you for sex, if that requires friendship, so be it)—or even hint that, you get what you’re getting.

You’re offering sex without fidelity and predictability. They aren’t buying it but they might believe they can change your mind and are open to seeing you again.

ElGuap042069 · 2026-01-22T01:21:22+00:00

Your to nice

novasoline · 2026-01-22T03:03:44+00:00

I don’t really sexually flirt… mainly due to fear of saying the wrong thing.

This is the problem!

You’re escalating physically but not psychologically/verbally.

Read Mode 1 by Roger Allen Curry. The idea is to be more upfront about your desires. Your on a date talking about hobbies and interest and dream when what you want is sex and hookup. Change your conversation, attraction is not polite its polarizing, disagreeable, and is outcome independent.

mikkyr · 2026-01-22T05:06:15+00:00

Most healthy people actually looking for relationships aren’t going to want an exclusive relationship with someone after one date so I’d maybe think about that a bit in the future in regards to the company you are keeping… I also wouldn’t say the problem you’re dealing with is “being boyfriend material” but probably more so just who you are choosing to “date”, you are using a dating app so it’s not overly surprising the women don’t want hookups. It doesn’t sound like the women you are choosing to take out on dates are interested in hookups at all so it’s interesting you keep ending up on dates with them regardless. You don’t have it on your profile you’re looking for long term, but do you have that you’re only looking for FWB/hookups? Be honest, don’t pretend you’re “going with the flow”, or “seeing what’s out there”, or “wanting long term but open to anything”, that just misleads the other person into thinking something long term may be a possibility despite you knowing it’s not. There is nothing wrong with only wanting hookups, it just sounds like you’re not even approaching the people that want that as well.

NotUsedUsernameYet · 2026-01-22T09:26:54+00:00

What does your dating profile say about your dating goals? If you say “long-term” and woman you go on dates with want long-term it’s expected. Also how old are you now? There is less FWB opportunities with age.

FearInoculumTool · 2026-01-22T12:00:43+00:00

Well then you need to stop sending signals that you are boyfriend material. How are you dressed in your profile? Are you nice and clean and appear like a good boy? Or do you have fuckboi vibes, some tatts, shirtless photos, etc. You need to give off the badboy vibe.

Also on dates, you gotta make it abundantly clear that you are not hubby material. You need to immediately tell women that you are not in the emotional headspace for anything serious but that you are always looking to meet people you can have fun with in a mutually respectful manner.

It is very important that you don’t make a woman feel like a cheap whore (unless it’s already in bed) and signal stuff like not really respecting her or valuing her for anything but her body. Take interest in what she’s saying but still be a dirty playful and sexual pervert.

Sorry-Place6291 · 2026-01-22T17:53:23+00:00

You said it at the end. One dude says on YouTube to act like you just ate a big ol pizza and your already satisfied so your not overthinking. I thought it was funny. Casey Zander talks about it

BicycleSpiritual1048 · 2026-01-23T14:18:54+00:00

I had same problem. So few things:

- Mindset: imagine what would broke punk rock university student which is popular among girls will do. Do that. So not invitation for dinner, where you pay for taxi, go in nice clothes etc. Instead you ask her to grab hot dog, close to your place, you buy cheap wine and cigaretes and you flirt with her, while smoking few cigs and look at moon.
- Clothes/vibe: Do you look like "safe good guy", somebody who cannot offend, who is too nice, who is doing anything she wants? You need different clothes. Even if you go for more serious notes, try to add jewelry, earings, necklaces etc. work wonders. but it must fit you.
- learn how to directly tell her what you like sexually on herself. i was amused when i see my friend how he told this basketball girl how she loves her cute ass, she was blushing. keep it low, make it bit funny and unserious, but mean it. watch some good actors on tv and try to emulate them. you want to reduce creepiness and instead use passion. you can say i love your sexi ass both creepy and passionately. difference is between body language, confidence and energy.
- Energy. You need to pour your sexual energy on her. I think sometime you seen it, some guys don't even have to look good, but they just pull woman by their sexual energy. Best is to go to latino dance classes and learn it there. Its different state of mind. I remember how girl told me she would show me ass, if i show her too. Just because i had sexual presence.
- Ultimate abundace mindset. You need to know, i mean KNOW that you don't need that girl for you being happy, that you can have any girl, and you are not chasing her. You have fun with her, but don't text her always, find time for other girls. Best is to have other priorities in the lifetime and focus on that. She can feel that. If you look like sad puppy which needs her, you are never going to be fwb.

Nigelthornfruit · 2026-01-25T18:59:11+00:00

Sucks , it takes more polarity and a critical mass. Keep pushing through and you will meet the mojo standards of the casual sex market.

norwegiandoggo · 2026-01-21T19:18:10+00:00

Giving off long-term vibes isn't a bad thing persé, but you need to be even more direct about what you're looking for. For example, if you're chatting you can tell her straight up "btw. I'm not looking for anything serious right now".

This will weed out most of those who only want something serious.

You may also have more success if you ask them out for drinks at night, rather than some other kind of date. I know this increases the chance she will reject your date - but those who accept drink dates late at night are usually more open to hooking up.

It could also be where you live. In some areas, women are far more likely to hookup compared to other areas. If you're a traveler - women are also more likely to hookup with you than if you're a person who lives there.

Lastly, you can just meet them on a second date and escalate then. Not everything has to happen on the first date. As long as you set her expectations that it's not serious - then it's all good. It could be the 3rd date even. Some women have rules like that "no sex before the third date" because they don't went to feel cheap or whatever. And OK. You can still work with that as long as you tell her you don't want anything serious.

Whole_Day9866 · 2026-01-21T20:36:28+00:00

Bro gotta learn how to fuck

jjbinks4 · 2026-04-11T19:32:49+00:00

Forgot I even made this post but a lil update: been hitting the gym hard, added physique photos to my dating apps, and make sure I always am laid back and kino on dates and I’ve been having success

Title	Being seen as boyfriend material but not hookup potential
Author	jjbinks4
Upvotes	174
Comments	69
Date	January 21, 2026 7:10 PM UTC (7 months ago)
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