What was your big breakthrough moment?

thecajunone · 2012-12-15T19:59:20+00:00

Biggest breakthrough? When I got my fucking life straight, started hitting the gym regularly, pursued my hobbies and career passionately, and stopped giving a shit what people thought of me and just started having fun in life. Then the girls started rolling in without me even trying.

matrex07 · 2012-12-15T19:19:20+00:00

My biggest realization is about texting. I was pretty decent at opening, but was having really shitty luck following up. To the point where I was analyzing texts that I sent over and over, worrying about wording/what I should say etc.

I realized that it really didn't matter what I said. If the girl was interested in escalating the relationship, she'll probably laugh at whatever stupid shit I say anyways and just be happy that I texted. And if she wasn't, well no amount of Shakespearean suaveness that I could cram into 1 text was going to change that.

MyThrowawaySeddit · 2012-12-15T17:36:57+00:00

It's when you realize you're not pretending anymore. And when you say whatever the fuck you say and roll with it, because fuck anyone who doesn't like you for you.

Polemicist82 · 2012-12-15T20:17:19+00:00

I was driving home from Chicago when my guitarist and I got to a toll booth. The 45 year old lady looked like she could have been any 1 of our moms 10 years ago. He paid the dollar and she said thanks have a good day. My guitar said whoa what's the hurry? He then proceeded to chat with her about her day and general chit chat small talk. Eventually a car started pulling up behind us and he said "well it's about that time. you have a good day."

Before this I only tried talking to hot women. That won't amount to anything if you can't talk to everybody. Men, women children old young regardless of their looks non judgementaly.

Everyone.

0mnis14sh · 2012-12-15T17:28:48+00:00

After a long night/morning of playing doubles in pool at a hostel with these 2 sisters and a dude I was chilling with (we teamed up with a girl each to make the teams fair). We were playing rounds from about 3am to 6am and I was tired as fuck from my night out so I was in no mood to be overly charming or flirty, but when it came to the point when we were saying goodnight I just knew that I had to do something with this so I asked the girl I teamed up with (HB7) if she wanted to come back to my room and she nodded - and thatś all it took. After all the time spent on seddit, nights out clubbing and having misadventures - all I had to do was ask.

unbiasedmike · 2012-12-15T20:32:49+00:00

When I realized that women wouldn't shoot me down for just talking to them 95% of the time. Once this hit me and really sunk in my confidence in approaching to women shot through the roof.

Darksider123 · 2012-12-15T19:46:48+00:00

The only time you lose is when you don't try

c00kiecutter · 2012-12-15T16:59:07+00:00

Don't worry, you're going to improve gradually. It's not like you wake up one morning and got it all figured out.

You just got to keep going out there and have fun.

thane_of_cawdor · 2012-12-15T17:12:14+00:00

My biggest breakthrough was a few weeks ago. I was at a club I frequent with my friends, and we were sarging like crazy. There were a ton of white-knights and AFCs at this club, so I foresaw that catching my "prey" would be significantly easier than usual.

I split off from my group of friends and slicked back my gel-saturated hair while sliding up to the bar. To the left of me were two HB9's, obviously alone and waiting for a true PUA like me to come sweep them off their feet. I rehearsed my routine in my head as I ordered a drink for myself. I decided on the "little sister" opening line that I picked up from casanovacrew.com (great site, if you've never been there. Those dudes know what they're talking about, for sure, no joke).

I turned to the closest HB9 and said "we would never get along, you are like my cute bratty little sister". She was talking to her friend and the music was loud, so she sort of half-paused and turned to me. "What" she said seductively. It was clear that she wanted me already. I know (as a master Pick Up ~~Autist~~ Artist) that it's not that easy, so I decided to go in for some heavy negging.

"Your shoes don't match your beautiful face" I said teasingly. Perfect delivery. "Who are you? What" she replied. Obviously she wanted an introduction so I gave her my Field Name ("the Mystery Man") as well as a seductive handshake that turned into kino as I planted kisses up and down her outstretched forearm.

By this point I could tell that she was moist and wanted to get out of there with me, so I suggested that we split back to my place. My parents were in California for the weekend, so we would have the basement all to ourselves. Unfortunately, she told me something like "I have a boyfriend" or "get off of me you freak" or something. What a tease!

I left the club and went home, knowing that my routine was perfect, and that I had almost slept with a HB9. The lesson here is - bitches don't like normal social conventions and other stuff that "normal" people do, so stick to your memorized routine and throw in as many cheesy one-liners as you can. You'll be fucking bitches in no time, like me. Well, I'm still a virgin, but I made out with a girl once.

ImJustAMan · 2012-12-16T01:13:22+00:00

Learning that girls want sex just as much as men. Learning that girls have the same insecurities as guys. Learning that girls are people too, not some unattainable status symbol.

With this rationalization, I also learned that I'm enough.

Turquill · 2012-12-15T23:06:12+00:00

When I tried to kiss the one of the hottest girls I know and got rejected. I knew that if I could survive that I could survive anything else, and I have.

CP_Cuddler · 2012-12-15T22:49:18+00:00

When I realized true abundance mentality.

Once you have a few girls you're seeing, its easy to be selective. You finally realize that your time is valuable and that you're an asset and that there's no sense in wasting your time with a girl that you don't like 100 percent or a girl that isn't into you.

Boobatube · 2012-12-16T00:33:08+00:00

Saying silly shit makes people laugh. Rather than saying to themselves "what a weirdo," they tell you you're funny.

I have a sense of humor tending toward the whimsical. If you do too, embrace the impulse to say things in ridiculous voices, cackle, whateverthefuck. It's fun.

Another goodie: I don't really like a lot of the chicks people as a rule think are hot (bleach-blonde, big boobs). They are, with definite exceptions as this is clearly a generalization, often vapid and boring people after a life of cheerleading and being told how pretty and interesting they are by legions of dudes trying to get in their pants. Find the girls that don't look like they came out of a cookie cutter complete with perky tits and entitled personality.

Ah I was ranting, apparently. /endrant

ListenGotSoul · 2012-12-16T02:43:48+00:00

Been lurkin around here for a while, but i thought i could add my own epiphany to this because it might help someone.

Confidence was a big struggle for me. I could always talk to people well and make people laugh, but i usually felt like an outsider, and that made approach difficult. Strangely, my architecture teacher taught us a principle for making people feel comfortable in a built environment that I re-applied to my game and has totally changed my life.

"Purchase, and find place." In architecture its as simple as being able to open the window by your table. By doing so you have been able to make the place more comfortable and more rewarding for yourself, you made it yours, and therefore you will appreciate that place more. So, i took it further. I found that if I invested myself in my surroundings, be it the bar, the people i was with, my own body, the city im in, whatever, my surroundings become mine, I own it. YOU GOTTA OWN IT! You must see your affect on your surroundings for them to have any worth in your mind. So anyone else in that place is a new-comer, with less of a contribution to [whatever], and probably feels less comfortable than you in YOUR place. And with that feeling of place, it is easy to be confident.

koreasgots3oul · 2012-12-15T22:01:07+00:00

My biggest breakthrough? Realizing no one on this earth is perfect. There is something that is flawed about each person; friends, family, yourself, and EVEN the HB you were eyeing earlier in the day just casually sipping her large in the Starbucks. Having that set my mind I stopped categorizing HB as high value, instead just normal average human beings.

zer0gravity1234 · 2012-12-15T21:49:42+00:00

I realized that I could sit around, look cool, drink a few, and only talk to the girls who seemed interested in me. This may or may not work out, such is life. Then I looked around and saw 40 other guys doing exactly as I did, and this got them nowhere either. By the irony of it, we were all the same by not trying at all. Now I try. It works. Get off your ass and impress someone by being yourself.

kid-vicious · 2012-12-16T00:26:49+00:00

This girl who I was absolutely crazy about back when I was an awful AFC, who never really liked me back because I was too needy and spineless (and I don't blame her), came to visit for a weekend not too long ago. She had previously moved a few hours away and I hadn't seen her in months. It just so happens that IN those months is when I discovered Seddit and started my immense change and gradual improvement. My friends and her friends decided to meet up downtown and almost immediately I could see the shock and amazement in her eyes. I made out with her just a few minutes after meeting up while walking to the club. She was in awe and couldn't believe how I'd changed. I danced and made out with her all night. She texted me the entire night asking what had happened to me and how incredibly attracted to me she was. She cancelled her plans the following night with her "girls" to go out clubbing with me again the next night. Didn't F close because I live at home and so does she, but she was begging for it. That's when I KNEW I had obviously broken through.
A couple weeks ago I was at a club with my AFC brother and this girl he was hooking up with. They were making out the whole time so I decided to venture off on my own. I went to the dance floor and spotted these two HB 8s. Without hesitation I walked up to them with a huge smile, grabbed them both around the waist and started dancing with both of them. They were both so into it and I felt like I could honestly make out with both of them on the spot. However one of the girls decided she wanted me for herself and wrapped her arms around my neck to dance and get closer. We made out and I fingered her on the dance floor. Lmao. It was intense. I laughed all the way home. This is coming from a guy who hadn't stepped foot into a club or bar until two years ago and up until last year, wouldn't even THINK about dancing and embarrassing myself at a club, let alone approach a girl. Felt good man.

big_reddit-squid · 2012-12-15T20:16:46+00:00

I learned to behave a certain way in Highschool. I learned how to seem cool and interesting. Nothing changed when I found "pick-up." I just updated my learned behaviors and kept trying to seem awesome on the surface.

Took a long time before I broke away from that thinking. Eventually I realized I was trying way too hard. From there I learned to relax and be myself, now I focus on forming natural human connections with other people.

Next time you're out socializing, step back and catch yourself trying too hard. See if you can relax and please yourself for a change. This is a gradual process, start small and empower yourself bit by bit.

muffboxes · 2012-12-15T19:58:38+00:00

more of a negative breakthrough, but regardless needed to get this off my chest and other opinions would be great

had one yesterday and it was really deuchy, I realised I'll sometimes kiss people not even because I'm really interested them, intent on having sex with them or whatever, but I'll do it just so that I know that I can, as it triggers some sort of mental release where I'm just like "yh got what I wanted and now I can move on with my night".

I'll even do it with girls who aren't of my standard or (sometimes, my mind goes from having morals to not having them on a whim) are inebriated to the point where it's questionable whether it's even morally ok for me to kiss them. not talking paraletic, more talking about girls who are drunk but still coherent enough to display interest, asin when I get drunk if I show interest in a girl and she's up for doing stuff, doesn't mean she took advantage. It's not like I take full advantage over them either, as it's just a kiss, but at the same time it's not exactly kosher

I'd say this is one of the main negative ways in which pua has effected me, and if anyone's got any help that'd be great!

Versarious · 2012-12-15T23:20:29+00:00

Getting over approach anxiety was my biggest breakthrough moment. Just having the free will to go up to any girl you please and talk to them is huge. Just recently got over this and every aspect of life is changing.

2012-12-15T19:13:13+00:00

My breakthrough was looking at all the AFCs around me, noticing all their mistakes, their posture and neediness in their eyes and realizing that I'm at the top of the food chain now.

angry_dave · 2012-12-15T19:32:03+00:00

I spent most of a year clocking all of my free hours either in a gym, online or out at a bar talking to women. Close to zero success, couple of numbers. I fucked up my knee doing something unrelated and couldn't walk for a few months, so I got out of my gym routine and got potbellied and jiggly again but with all this time back on my hands I got reinvested in my musical shit which I had been neglecting. Suddenly I had things to talk about that didn't involve lifting heavy things and drinking beer and my attitude changed once I had something going for me, so even though I lost my guns I spent so long on the women basically started falling out of the woodwork and it's been smooth sailing ever since

the moral is don't be a meathead, do something productive with yourself

ColonelKurtzPhD · 2012-12-15T20:56:55+00:00

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georgekuhnrulez · 2012-12-15T23:28:51+00:00

First time I went to a club. I learned that people are fun.

Ossuari · 2012-12-16T06:59:09+00:00

When i fell for this girl and didn't do anything about it for a year until one day i finally got the balls to tell her how i feel and got rejected because she had a boyfriend.

This oneitis changed my life for the better and i thank her for being that catalyst

dialdfordesi · 2012-12-16T15:49:54+00:00

Realizing that I'm no longer my quiet, submissive, nonsocial high school self. That regret is far worse than seeing that an approach won't pan out. That all the blowouts make for laughter filled stories in the end.

Attila_TheHipster · 2012-12-17T00:38:36+00:00

Shrooms. Was crazy for my innergame.

longboarddan · 2012-12-15T23:16:10+00:00

I think I just had one today, texting doesn't work... Girls will friend zone you and it's a bad way to communicate, people interpret words differently then you and there will be miss communication. The best way is to use texts as a way to set up in person meetings, not have several hour long conversations.

Peffico · 2012-12-15T17:55:23+00:00

The only break out moment you have is when you can say to yourself, "I can get any girl I want", and actually mean it.

SupALupRT · 2012-12-16T03:42:26+00:00

Its a slow process you just have to hang in there and NEVER GET DOWN ON YOURSELF. Remember girls do not live in a vacuum, you could get blown out for reasons that have 0 to do with you. Just focus on being as fun and awesome as you can be and you WILL get girls. The not giving a fuck attitude is absolutely crucial, girls can sense when you are getting wrapped up in them too quick and it kills attraction.

I had been mostly day gaming but Thursday night I just said fuck it and hit up the piano bar with some friends. Made out with 2 different girls within 5 minutes of meeting them. Like the others are saying girls like getting physical too they just have a harder time not catching the feelings from sex...the alcohol also strips away the ASD. I'm convinced girls drink for this very reason so they have a excuse to want it as bad as guys.

OvercomeAwkward · 2012-12-16T13:23:56+00:00

Biggest moment was the first time I went up to a girl and approached her direct at a club. It felt great AND it worked.

Made me realise the importance of making REAL approaches instead of just hoping for something situational to come up (it rarely would)

Before this, I had pulled plenty of girls in clubs but I was far more hit and miss due to relying largely on luck to get me into conversations with girls.

laughmaker_son · 2012-12-17T07:16:19+00:00

My first solo night out, I went to a club that I frequent with friends, but all of them were either working or already had plans. It's a country bar so asking other girls to dance is crucial and necessary. I danced with 8 different girls (some for more than just 1 song) and convinced a whole group who were hanging out at a table to come on the dance floor when they played a dance song. This resulted in 5 girls dancing ON me, and a girl grinding her hips on my leg, almost dry humping me. I also got a number from one of the girls I danced with earlier. What I realized, is I did better solo than with friends. Wild ass night.

tacocatism · 2012-12-16T22:32:01+00:00

That if you dance and just enjoy yourself, the girls will come to you.

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