When I argue that redpill culture prioritizes sexual access over real social competence, people insist “The redpill talks about social skills.” There’s a difference between discussing “game” and actually developing social judgment. Social competence starts with accurately identifying what is unacceptable, what is admirable, and what is merely baseline. If you can’t detect disrespect, boundary-testing, or antisocial behavior in other men, you won’t detect it in yourself so you’ll keep mislabeling your failures as “women are unreasonable” and “women are liars about caring about morals and good men” instead of “my behavior was off.”

Their definition of “good man” often means “not a criminal.”

Not committing felonies isn’t ‘good.’ It’s normal. If your bar for ‘good’ is ‘not in prison,’ you’re not evaluating morality. You’re evaluating arrest risk. Meanwhile, redpillers and “nice guys” believe doing something kind without expecting a prize is for pussies. Which is also why these guys scoff at men who actually protect women/people. Semi-related, I’ll never forget seeing MGTOW complained when Alyssa Milano gave the firemen who saved her house food: “Now bitches know to keep quiet and make a sandwich”.

Sidenote: People saying “look Daniel Penny!” Daniel got found not guilty, got praised as a hero and then got to meet POTUS. He got greatly rewarded and praised for what he did.

They miss the most common forms of awful behavior (except cheating) because it’s socially toxic, not legally actionable. Redpill rhetoric constantly tells women to “choose better,” but it can’t reliably identify better in the first place. It treats “not being a felon” as good character, ignores non-criminal red flags as “Women are irrational, shallow, hivemind, woke, etc.”

What they ignore: Aggression disguised as “confidence” Disrespect Bigotry Entitlement Victim Complex

For example: https://youtube.com/shorts/_ke-Ep2Gu1E?si=qfHQQ-AN_EKQMFOP

When I show them a particular video, most guys here cant detect the problem. Just reply with “Women are just upset men dont want to be with a transformer! He’s not gay!” not even detecting the bigotry in their own words.

When it comes to creepy behavior, redpill guys basically act like “creepy” only exists in two situations: (1) it breaks the law, or (2) a woman isn’t attracted to the man doing it. So they’ll say things like “women call everything creepy,” and use that as permission to treat nothing as creepy—because if “creepy” is just a fake label women slap on unattractive men, then there’s no need to self-reflect or adjust behavior.

Disappointed that guys here think saying “my dog asks do you like anal”, “can you moo for me”, and “have you farted today” is normal behavior, but not surprised.

In case anyone want to see the videos Im referring to:

https://youtube.com/shorts/4BvcLJfTyg8?si=QSh6EekiLlOJYY_u

https://youtube.com/shorts/6_zOH_wr2Q0?si=dKtQMWeYbHSEM8It

https://youtube.com/shorts/R08c0rk9YwY?si=--_4Tw6wWfc7lxQI

I really do think redpillers will hear this audio and think the moderators are “making men ashamed of being men”: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZThMAkQCy/

((For those who cant watch the vid, a moderator is asking for people to stop publicly announcing when theyre gonna go masturbate.))

This problem might also related to the types of women they know. Redpill men complain about women “choosing wrong,” but they can’t even detect wrong unless it comes with a mugshot. That’s why they keep seeing women who dont care about moral standards and never women who do. It’s not that “all women are fickle, lack self-awareness, and love felons.” It’s that the redpillers’ mindset funnels them toward people who with low standards and high dysfunction.