I'm looking to make a calculator/algorithm for figuring out "market value" for men. Looking for input.

SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-03-21T00:47:23+00:00

This is futile because everyone values different things at different levels

SmurfESmurferson · 2022-03-21T01:14:08+00:00

The calculator already exists. Go cold approach a bunch of women - the ones who are interested are your market value

Sea-Ocelot8299 · 2022-03-21T00:57:57+00:00

I think in general trying some made up math equations for relationship is dumb as fck. Everyone values different things, everyone finds someone else attractive, some people care about $$$ in bank some don't. Just own it that you suck at being nice and social human instead of later blaming it on low made up score.

DorianneGrey · 2022-03-21T00:49:18+00:00

I think it’s far more subjective than you think.

Consider that men like both Kate Moss and Kim Kardashian. Women’s preferences are equally diverse so you might be able to develop a Venn diagram that is somewhat true to life, but anything more exact will not be materially accurate.

chingness · 2022-03-21T06:29:27+00:00

Do you honestly have nothing better to do?

kissmetilyouredrunk · 2022-03-21T00:51:37+00:00

Men are compared to the other men they're around. What's high-value in Beverly Hills is different from Silicon Valley is different from Oklahoma City

sarkington · 2022-03-21T01:12:20+00:00

Why?

How would this be used?

purplish_possum · 2022-03-21T01:29:31+00:00

WTF? There aren't algorithms for everything.

Bandit174 · 2022-03-21T03:02:59+00:00

I'd say facial attractiveness is most important but hardest to calculate.

Other relevant factors would be height, hairline quality, shoulder to waist ratio, dick size, vocal pitch, salary and prestige.

And it would have to account for canceling out, like if you have an amazing face but are 5'2 you're still a 0 to most women because anything times 0 is still 0 and sucking in one category can tank your score.

You also need to account for preference variation. So for example women do varry in terms of what faces they find attractive. I've seen women say legit models were ugly and Adim Driver is handsome.

However other traits like height have near universal agreement that 6'0 - 6'4 is the ideal male height range. So even though face probably counts for more points on an individual basis, the fact that height preferences are so uniform means height grants points more consistently than face does.

mextreme10 · 2022-03-21T03:35:57+00:00

The best determinate of market value is the price that people are willing to pay. Going out and seeing who you can get.

2022-03-21T06:49:17+00:00

RP tends to focus a lot on looks, money etc but the big thing they are lacking is being a decent, egalitarian, likeable person. Mentally healthy women can smell the lack of those things a mile away.

Of course everybody is different but not sure how you can factor them in, when they are so make or break to a person's value.

Reisiluu · 2022-03-21T09:24:55+00:00

You make a calculator, find out your score is 3.88/5 and approach an average woman without knowing anything about her personal life, relationship status or preferences. When she says no, then what? Will you come back here to complain about women's out of control standards? I don't see what purpose this serves.

Skycat9 · 2022-03-21T14:04:45+00:00

I made an algorithm for grading your calculator. It has been determined to have negative value to society

briiiana1122 · 2022-03-21T16:09:29+00:00

You can put the kind of person who makes or uses (and takes seriously) this kind of thin way way down on the bottom on your scale.

Fit_Kiwi9703 · 2022-03-21T01:16:55+00:00

A lot depends on the type of user research you’ll do to determine the scoring system. What’s your sample size? What’s your target demographic? Who will you interview? What interview questions will you ask?

You could conduct an online survey using Google Forms and ask a pool of people to rate each criteria. r/samplesize is a good place to look.

Over_North8884 · 2022-03-21T01:25:56+00:00

You must first decide if you're referring to SMV, RMV, or MMV. They can all be wildly different.

42nanaimobars · 2022-03-21T03:12:45+00:00

Interview a bunch of women to find commonalities for attraction. Present the women with a bunch of men’s profiles. See what happens.

A lot of people talk about alphas and betas on this forum. I think sigmas are the most attractive.

IHuntSmallKids · 2022-03-21T04:39:34+00:00

The cringe hurts me on a spiritual level

OP please stop

Magnito-was-right · 2022-03-21T00:41:43+00:00

I think the most important factor is having an attractive face. Body can always be changed (besides height).

Siukslinis_acc · 2022-03-21T06:09:16+00:00

You should define what marketplace are you tackling. Because the same thing has different value in different markets. It's marketing 101 to firstly define the target audience and then look how your product meets the requirements of the target audience. One of the pitfalls is saying that everyone is your target audience. In your place you are looking how a product is gonna do in the marketplace, so you should define the marketplace. You don't go to sell potatoes inside a car shop.

Example you might say the marketplace is women, but the same qualities bear different walues depending if it's a conservative women or liberal women marketplace, goth women or rap women marketplace, women in their 20's or women in their 60's marketplace.

So in addition to a specific product (men in their mid-20s to mid-30s) you should define a marketplace (like women in their mid-20s to mid-30s).

If you want a more spanning calculator you could include a selection of values/subcultures/social group/age group that you are interested in. Those would be expressed in text and not in number. and based on the selection, one would be compared to different markets.

M3taBuster · 2022-03-21T09:23:36+00:00

If you're struggling to quantify personality as a category, I suggest using the Big 5/OCEAN model. It's my opinion, and I think many would agree, that the ideal personality for men when it comes to dating success is high extroversion, low agreeableness, high conscientiousness, high openness, and low neuroticism.

It would actually line up quite nicely with your scoring system. Having 0 or 1 out of 5 of the traits in the ideal personality stack for men gives you a 1/5 score for personality, having 2 gives you 2/5, and so on.

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throwawaylessons103 · 2022-03-21T00:42:17+00:00

"Playing with fire" did a good one:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5_grb7l-kn4

Skip to :42

zerofeetpersecond · 2022-03-21T01:20:11+00:00

What would make sense is a percentile calculator? You want this kind of man and they represent XYZ percent of population, and then allow filter by age. Let women see just how many 6ft millionaires there are by age😭

Lateralanouncer · 2022-03-21T02:43:16+00:00

It's already been done. Unless yours is different. Enter your height income, etc, and it calculates what percentage you are.

Short-Fingers · 2022-03-21T04:02:39+00:00

The race one might depend on what region of the world you are in.

enoesraht · 2022-03-22T00:02:04+00:00

Don't bother, this is as autistic as it goes. There is no math to attraction.

OfficialHavik · 2022-03-22T04:29:43+00:00

The female delusion calculator largely does this already in terms of height and income. Other factors such as looks and even race have subjective components to them so they're hard to plot out on a graph. You'd need to be rated anonymously by a ton of women to get a real sense of your value there.

If dating apps aren't a complete and total waste of your time, then you at least have to be above average. That doesn't mean you're slaying on there, but you're not in that bucket of guys who will be on a dating app for three months and get two matches the whole time.

DarkSp3ctre · 2022-03-22T18:17:51+00:00

Attraction is too subjective for that, y’all need to do yourselves a favor and stop sweating over some arbitrary hierarchy and touch sone fuckin grass.

friedpicklesforever · 2022-03-21T03:28:14+00:00

Most important thing is money and career potential

welcometothejl · 2022-03-21T08:39:59+00:00

Just make a calculator that narrows down which percentile a man is in.

For example, you could put in parameters like, age, height, weight, savings, income.

I'll make up the percentiles, but this will be an example. If you are 5'10", you're in the upper 45% of men. If you make $65,000 a year at age 25, you're in the top 35%. If you have $40,000 saved with no debt, your in the top 20% in your age group. Then put it all together and that's where you're at. I don't know if that example makes sense.

If you're 6', with a 6 figure income, and a 6 pack, you're like the top 1% of dudes.

Professional-Car7752 · 2022-03-21T09:42:02+00:00

If you actually want to do something like this, then let men rate themself on different factors, or input data like how much they earn, how many friends they have etc. and compare the results to a database so the men can see if they are above or below average

Title	I'm looking to make a calculator/algorithm for figuring out "market value" for men. Looking for input.
Author	Sea-Ocelot8299
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Date	March 21, 2022 12:39 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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