It's so unfair - women are not overwhelmingly winning in family courts any more

gimli2 · 2016-05-11T12:40:30+00:00

Do they not see how fucking retarded what they're saying is?

conspiracy_thug · 2016-05-11T12:52:06+00:00

Relevent

Edit: Thank you for the gold!

QcRoman · 2016-05-11T12:37:24+00:00

"imagine not having your children with you... bla bla bla... "

A very large percentage of fathers have for the last few decades !

1337Gandalf · 2016-05-11T13:28:45+00:00

"it's totally fine when it happens to dads tho, that's why we've never brought it up before"

FruitierGnome · 2016-05-11T13:16:44+00:00

Imagine that trauma....

Then you will start to understand how dads all over the world feel every day.

BigJ76 · 2016-05-11T13:11:31+00:00

"I'm all for equality until it interferes with my privilege"

Edit: to the Feminists, SJWs, and White Knights that found the report button for this thread - fuck outta here with your shit

wildmetacirclejerk · 2016-05-11T14:20:35+00:00

I feel like daily mail generated this deliberately to piss off people. This woman is a crazy nobody they just use to get clicks to their site

theFarginBastage · 2016-05-11T13:25:53+00:00

I would like to send good thoughts to all the Mothers out there who believe in equality. When my ex broke up with me when she was pregnant, I hated the thought of missing out on the special moments in my daughter's childhood. Fortunately, my ex and I have always worked together to share the time as best as possible. The worst she really does is forgets to return clothes on a regular basis and I am extremely thankful that is as bad as it gets for me.

locklin · 2016-05-11T12:35:08+00:00

I didn't believe this was real.

... WTF? I'm speechless.

arashimikata · 2016-05-11T12:58:54+00:00

You do not "stop being a mother" because you do not have legal custody of your children half the time.

You are still a mother. Your children still live and experience life. They do not remove themselves from existence, nor are they forcibly removed from existence.

The only reasons one would "stop being a mother" would be, heaven forfend, the mother or child dies.

2016-05-11T16:30:55+00:00

Mothers are having to divide their time equally with their exes.

You mean the fucking father of the children?

faded_jester · 2016-05-11T13:18:54+00:00

Welcome to equality bitch. Aren't you glad you insisted on being treated like a man? Keep being so strong and independent. There is a lot more equality coming.

BallShapedMan · 2016-05-11T13:57:08+00:00

I have full time custody of my two children from my first marriage, I do everything I can to see they get time with their Mom. Just because her and I couldn't get along doesn't mean my two oldest don't love their Mom as much as I love my Mom.

sirbeast · 2016-05-11T12:17:14+00:00

Fuck this sexist twunt right in the eye with a white-hot, rusty fork

socalnonsage · 2016-05-11T16:05:06+00:00

I feel that This author/"journalist" generally does not like men. See below for some other articles that she's written:

Forget men... girl friends can be the greatest love of your life: Why female friendships are often just as significant

Lauren Libbert says her female friendships have been 'life-changing' Aged 19, she was devastated to find out her best friend was engaged But she maintains these relationships with women are purely platonic

I think I can safely say she's lying to herself is she says her feelings for women are platonic

The hell of having a hoarder for a husband: Lauren Libbert reveals the stress that comes with a house full of clutter

Lauren spends much of her time putting things back in their rightful place

Her husband, Colin, is often irritated to find she has moved his belongings

So, after we suspect that Lauren isn't a fan of men and is a closet lesbian who lost the love of her life (to marriage) earlier, we now get a picture of an unhappy wife as she gets married to a man and resents him for small infractions.

My dirty little secret? I sneak my rubbish into my neighbours' bins at night - because I can't be bothered to drive to the tip!

Lauren Libbert's household has a lot of excess rubbish like broken toys She's become obsessed with sneaking extra refuse into other people's bins She knows she should just drive to the tip but 'hasn't got the energy'

She's lazy and dishonest.

SJW confirmed.

EDIT: A Couple nice little tidbits from her Twitter account:

#1

#2

bobwi11ey · 2016-05-11T17:28:18+00:00

When my ex & I got divorced, she was smoking meth, being a prostitute, & never showing up to get our son. And I still only won custody by the skin of my teeth. It's time the courts looked at each case objectively instead of just assuming a child is better off with their mother.

Pseudonymble · 2016-05-11T18:30:01+00:00

Yes.... just imagine...or ask a single dad.

Lampoonzer · 2016-05-11T14:47:23+00:00

I have a 5 year old daughter. Her mom and I were never married. We broke up before our daughter was born and I knew she was going to make it difficult for me to see my daughter. I hired a paternal rights attorney and over the course of 4 years I got 50/50. It is the best feeling ever having my daughter as much as I can and also her mom not having control. She was more upset about the loss of control and me having our daughter's last name hyphenated than she was losing time with her. She now has a boyfriend and they went off to Costa Rica and were gone for mother's day. Our daughter was crushed because she made her presents and couldn't understand why she left without her.

Trebor417 · 2016-05-11T14:27:04+00:00

Meanwhile Dads like me have had to fight tooth and nail to see their children.

My son is coming up to two years and at the moment I get to spend 5 hours with him a week.

Imagine the agonizing pain of being privy to your child's life for only 3% of the time.

I missed my son's first birthday because my court date wasn't arranged until the week after, I've never had cuddles before bedtime because my 5 hours don't run that late.

2016-05-11T13:15:37+00:00

That's one thing i'll always love and respect my mom for. My parents we're divorced when i was like 2 and even though my dad was a complete asshole she never tried for full custody or keeping him from seeing me and my brother. This was back in 1990 in Texas where the mom can almost always get custody just for being a woman

notionsxpotions · 2016-05-11T13:36:14+00:00

Parents divorced at age 3..grew up spending every other weekend with my dad. Through thick and thin, sleeping on the couch in a 600sqft studio, sitting at the bar drinking virgin pina colatas watching his band play, him letting me watch my first horror film, spending the day at the beach because it was free.....

My mom gave me a good childhood, she supported me in everything, and I love her...but thinking back on it, even though I wouldn't have the luxuries I did with my mom, I still would have been happier with my dad.

dacotahd · 2016-05-11T18:12:45+00:00

As someone who went through an 8 year divorce with a physically abusive and mentally abusive mother, let me just say.

GOOD

Men have just as much of a right to see their kids and women do. To think men lack the compassion to raise kids on their own or that without a mother they are a harm to the children is bullshit. The fact that you need a specialized attorney just for a CHANCE or leaving the court room unscathed is BULLSHIT.

Our 3 judges just looooved giving my mom second chances. They even let her off the hook for child support. She lives in Port Byron, or something like that. Debt collectors still call me looking for her.

Shes a monster.

Messaged me on mothers day.

I guess I'm really upset shes even still alive

elkazay · 2016-05-11T18:19:16+00:00

How could someone type this... then review it... then send it to an editor... then probably to someone else.. and then someone had to push the publish button...

It's funny that they say custody is being split EQUALLY as if that is somehow bad? Feminism, at its very goddamned core, started as a movement for women to achieve equal rights as a person.

lol_camis · 2016-05-11T18:22:22+00:00

Fucking good. I've seen so many men ruined by divorce where the ex wife practically gained from it.

loli_trump · 2016-05-11T20:49:30+00:00

They don't want equality. They want privlage.

MEANMUTHAFUKA · 2016-05-12T00:44:10+00:00

I have 50/50 with my ex, and this makes me want to puke. It took me over a year of litigation, and I don't know how many 10's of thousands of dollars to get that too. She accused me of everything short of sexual abuse (alcoholism, drug addiction, etc). She could just casually throw those accusations out with no consequence when I proved them untrue. I spent over $7k in drug and alcohol testing alone. The final kick in the balls? I got to pay for her attorneys fees in addition to my own. The courts are still heavily weighted against the man. Don't get married!!! If you do, make damn sure you pick the right girl. It's a fucking travesty. She was literally just making shit up. Why not? What did she have to lose? Absolutely nothing.

mouseyes · 2016-05-11T14:35:20+00:00

Sexist on both sides really.. Message 1:Women can't be fulfilled without children, Message 2: men don't care about children. Both untrue

HardOff · 2016-05-11T15:00:26+00:00

One of my dutch uncles is divorced. His ex-wife got full custody, though he still has visitation rights. Before I start this story, know that I only hear snippets of it from my Mom from time to time, so I may have gotten some facts wrong.

I have never heard of someone so full of hatred. She does everything she can to destroy him in every way possible.

First, it was the kids; she turned them against them, then tried to fabricate claims that he abused them to reduce his visitation rights. The kids are now emotionally distant to him, though she was unsuccessful in her attempts to frame him for abuse.

Then, it was money. She sued him for failing to pay child support, which he hadn't, so the courts reduced his child support payments.

Then, it was religion. He is a pretty religious man and spends a lot of time volunteering at church. In response, she started calling up the bishop and accusing the ex-husband of horrible sins. It got to the point where she was repeatedly calling the bishop at 2 AM, trying to get him to give in and expel the man from church. The bishop refused to listen to her, though.

Because she's so aggressively and transparently spiteful, no one really listens to her other than her children. I hope that one day, they realize what's going on as well. Outside of that, I'm happy to say that my uncle's life seems to be on the upturn.

CorsairX89 · 2016-05-11T16:57:51+00:00

As a single dad who won custody of his kid the the state of Texas. Go Fuck yourself daily mail.

arthrax · 2016-05-11T17:16:44+00:00

these people should be drowned in lava

Laugh_At_Everything · 2016-05-11T18:42:20+00:00

The long nights spent wondering if they are sleeping sweetly, or crying out for Mummy

Or, you know, you could just CALL THEM.

And wtf, dads arent capable of putting their kids to sleep on time?

pittyfitty · 2016-05-11T18:59:22+00:00

"Imagine, then, the agonizing pain of being privy to your child's life for only half the time"

Gee, I wonder how the father feels?

ramot1 · 2016-05-12T04:36:37+00:00

I was lucky in my divorce. I got to see my kids three days/week, cause I worked 4 tens! I still had to pay child support, and got stuck with alimony for life, but my kids actually think of me as their dad, and not as a disposable ATM.

In that sense, I am very lucky!

Bewarr123 · 2016-05-11T16:42:39+00:00

Regardless of the validity of the newspaper or not.

If true, this is truly something that needed to happen.

As a father of 3 who has sole custody of all 3 of them.

It took me 10 years in court and it more or less ended because children pushed it themselves because of what she had and continued to put them through and she had undeniably made some extremely poor choices.

Cost tens of thousands of dollars and to be honest if I had done a tenth of what she did during that decade I would have lost immediately.

Sometimes it's a unmentioned byproduct that equal rights should mean just that.

lagspike · 2016-05-11T17:35:37+00:00

I don't see the point of marriage when it involves such a high risk of you losing half your shit.

it's like going to vegas and betting half of everything you own on a roulette spin.

RojoEscarlata · 2016-05-11T12:17:02+00:00

Still

don't get married

hayfever76 · 2016-05-11T15:04:02+00:00

As a divorced Dad whose wife intentionally moved across the country to keep me from the kids, this article fills me with a rage I cannot even describe. "Wondering if the kids are sleeping or crying for Mummy"? Every divorced Dad out there who's engaged with his children goes through that every single day. Fuck... vapor lock...I am so mad..I can't write. Fuck the Daily Mail... what. utter. shit.

pawless · 2016-05-11T16:22:28+00:00

Fuck this article. I really wish my father would have won custody of my brother and I. My mother is mentally ill and it really took a toll on my brother and I. She is a complete snake and verbally/mentally abusive.

My dad wanted to divorce my mother for a while but was talked out of it by my mother's side of the family. Then she went behind his back and filed for divorce. He didn't find out until we got a knock on the door during dinner one day and it was a man there to serve divorce papers to my dad.

My parents got divorced in 1997. My father wanted to gain custody of us but his attorney advised against it since my mother had custody of my older half-brother and didn't think it was a good idea to try to separate us. After the divorce settled, my dad's attorney said to him, "Man, you probably could have got those kids. That woman is crazy."...... My father had a really shitty attorney basically.

Today, my little brother is 24, a recovering heroine addict, and on anxiety medication. I'm 26 now and was recently diagnosed with severe anxiety, depression, and agoraphobia. Then my older half-brother died in 2010 at the age of 24 from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head because he was depressed. I definitely believe we wouldn't have developed these issues if we were raised by my father instead of my mother.

I'm a female and this is exactly why I don't have very many female friends. I can't trust my own mother, so I have a hard time trusting any female. I just expect girls to be backstabbers and extremely judge mental like my mother is.

hiphoprising · 2016-05-11T16:15:49+00:00

Imagine, then, the agonizing pain of being privy to your child's life for only half the time.

Why is this about the woman and not both, then? If they're splitting time... Nevermind.

2016-05-11T17:24:52+00:00

Every time I see my exwife crying and blubbering as she hands our son off to me for the few weeks out of the year I get to spend with him it makes me sick with fucking disgust at her. Fuck any person who would knowingly keep their children from someone they love and need.

strangebru · 2016-05-11T17:52:09+00:00

2 days vs 5 days is 50/50?!?!?!?!

g0zb07 · 2016-05-11T18:37:09+00:00

"A mummy is a deceased human or an animal whose skin and organs have been preserved by either intentional or accidental exposure to chemicals, extreme cold, very low humidity, or lack of air, so that the recovered body does not decay further if kept in cool and dry conditions."

2016-05-11T19:47:30+00:00

shockingly women can be unfit parents about as often as men... equality n shit, sjw assholes

Urano_Metria · 2016-05-11T20:26:02+00:00

What about the suicide-inducing torture of being a 10/90 father paying court ordered full child support.

Ctlz · 2016-05-11T21:47:47+00:00

The women who claim to be feminists today and want "equal" rights only want equality if they are more equal than men.

Lord-Lannister · 2016-05-12T02:52:26+00:00

Equality cannot be cherry-picked.

2016-05-12T18:35:41+00:00

All I saw was "Harpy shrieks 'cause she didn't get everything."

FluffyBunnyHugs · 2016-05-11T13:38:13+00:00

10:1 odds they got divorced because she was having an affair.

acobrien85 · 2016-05-11T13:59:38+00:00

I want to be equal except where I used to hold the advantage. That part please keep unequal. On second thought I want everything. Give me everything and no one else anything. That is the fair thing to do.

GhostSheSends · 2016-05-11T14:04:18+00:00

Why did they write the ages of the children as 10 and eight?

2016-05-11T16:08:25+00:00

"It's a growing phenomenon that - on the surface - might seem the fairest way for separated parents to organise their lives.

But it comes at an emotional price for the mothers involved"

Its a damn good thing men dont have emotions!

imissFPH · 2016-05-11T12:30:06+00:00

"Sleeping sweetly, or crying out for mommy at night" Give me a fucking break.. raise your kid like that and he'll have no balls when there ready to drop.

tillthebill · 2016-05-11T12:33:21+00:00

I think i'm gonna barf.

clydefrog811 · 2016-05-11T13:21:50+00:00

What a bitch.

2016-05-11T14:13:38+00:00

Holy shit. These people are dense.

bicks236 · 2016-05-11T16:22:52+00:00

Because not having your child 2 out of 7 days is totally 50/50.

physalisx · 2016-05-11T16:47:11+00:00

her children Devon, 10, and Sonny, eight

the way they chose to write the ages gives me cancer

Arntor1184 · 2016-05-11T16:54:12+00:00

How someone could fail to see that this will impact the lives of both parties involved is beyond me. Are people really so wrapped up in their narratives that they legitimately cannot see that this would effect the Father in the same exact way?

whitek8gixxer · 2016-05-11T17:27:40+00:00

As dad that has my kids half time I feel the same way about every moment I've lost. Let's not mention that as much as 75% of divorces are now being initiated by the wife. But guys are unloyal....

Tue-Mar-22 · 2016-05-11T17:46:43+00:00

You do us all great disservice by not including the name of the media outlet that published this crap.

2016-05-11T17:51:40+00:00

I get the pleasure of having my kids only four days out of the month if I'm lucky. Even though I had to spend thousands on the lawyer going to court just to get a piece of paper that has joint custody written on it. Plus I have no say in what goes on in their life.

puckfirate · 2016-05-11T17:54:12+00:00

Im glad to hear its becoming more fair. IMO they should not disclose the sex of either party to the judge until after the custody decision has been made. This will eliminate the rampant sexism against men in the court system.

Sw0rDz · 2016-05-11T18:07:18+00:00

About fucking time things changed. I've seen hardships from kids who were child support money for their mom, and there dad was one teddy bear fathers. He worked only to support his kids as they were his world. I could only imagine how tough it was. The kids are adults now and have pretty much left their mom out of their lives.

Psykerr · 2016-05-11T18:07:26+00:00

Yeah, she's going through agony until those kids are teenagers and she's like "you can take them this weekend."

2016-05-11T18:11:17+00:00

I recently started working in child maintenance...being able to stop child maintenance cases because the child is lucky enough to have 50/50 care is a delight.

I was a child in a case where the mother had the upper hand, and nothing pleases me more than hearing a child getting parented by both mum and dad.

empw · 2016-05-11T18:13:14+00:00

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Nicholas_ · 2016-05-11T18:17:39+00:00

As much as the courts are still very in favour of women, don't read the daily mail, it's a pile of shite.

Also this is just a huge gender war, I guarantee she was paid to say this or she's just one in 100,000 women who would say that.

The best thing most folk can do about bullshit articles like this which just want to add fuel to this retarded gender war is to simply ignore them.

I'm glad I like most women and I'm glad most women like me.

lenswipe · 2016-05-11T18:33:38+00:00

/r/sjwhate

Master_JeZZy · 2016-05-11T19:13:30+00:00

I wouldn't really call that a win. In this article the women still gets the kids for the week, while only losing them on the weekend.

diggyziggy · 2016-05-11T19:18:48+00:00

Well I guess their secret is out. "I'm gonna make him send me all his money. And then I'm going to go party". All while the kids get used as a tool. I say fuck them bitches. Boo fucking hoo!

srichland · 2016-05-11T19:35:45+00:00

Equality is so unfair.

Swmitch · 2016-05-11T19:57:30+00:00

Finally father's are being recognized as important also... Perhaps soon they will move on to recognising the children.

johnnyRebb · 2016-05-11T20:04:10+00:00

It's like they're sharing with a monster or something... Rather than the OTHER FREAKING PARENT

Daedelous2k · 2016-05-11T21:29:09+00:00

Hooray for the fathers that have to deal with their cheating spouses trying to take their kids they have stood by.

ImOP_need_nerf · 2016-05-11T23:27:28+00:00

Equality goes both ways. That's the point.

2016-05-11T23:31:10+00:00

About. Fucking. Time

2016-05-12T00:49:34+00:00

She's more concerned about her own experiences than her childrens' experiences.

ThicklyThweet · 2016-05-12T06:30:07+00:00

Now they know how the fathers feel! 💯

2016-05-12T06:46:29+00:00

In any divorce the father experiences all of those things they mention. But that's ok. He's probably a cheater and abusive and should be out making money so 3/4 can be given to the mother.

SmaugDaDragons · 2016-05-12T09:38:50+00:00

The original article:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3573927/Agony-50-50-mum-Women-held-upper-hand-custody-battles-fathers-winning-EQUAL-access-mothers-struggling-cope.html

YeOldePoop · 2016-05-11T15:06:57+00:00

Is this an onion article? If not, the writer is clearly insane, and should either be reprimanded or fired for the article.

razrblazr420 · 2016-05-11T14:22:56+00:00

Immediately checked to see author. Was not surprised

lewis_and_clark · 2016-05-11T15:11:30+00:00

Having a kid is different than being a mother. I never understood why people think popping a kid out of your pussy turns you into some saint overnight. If you were a shitty person before you had a kid then you're most likely going to be a shitty mother.

Sjwpoet · 2016-05-11T15:42:11+00:00

How have you guys not mentioned, it says agony of a 50/50 mom... but she has them 5 of 7 days. Far more than half the time.

Holy_canoli_olie · 2016-05-11T15:50:48+00:00

As a woman with 2 kids, I try to make sure their father sees them whenever he is able. I'm sad when they leave, but happy because they can spend time together and it makes them happy. This article is a huge pile of bullshit and these women are ridiculous. Parenting is 50/50, together or not. They need to get the fuck over their selfish selves.

2016-05-11T15:43:48+00:00

Women have it better than men in the Western world. Women also benefit the most from Affirmative action programs. But none of that matters because some drunk girl decides to get fucked one time and nobody called it rape.

deadfallpro · 2016-05-11T15:32:23+00:00

Suck a cock you worthless bitch. How many thousands of fathers have missed out on those special things, simply because family court sided with the vagina?

Photog1981 · 2016-05-11T14:23:08+00:00

This speaks to western culture where the father is considered to be nothing more than support for the main parent, the mother. I would imagine the person who wrote this article also refers to fathers as "babysitting" their kids when Mom's out. In the absence of abuse, other mitigating factors, a father absolutely should have equal time with their kids.

AtomicKittenz · 2016-05-11T14:45:05+00:00

Two daughters? One of them looks and is dressed like a boy.

soisurface · 2016-05-11T13:42:33+00:00

I can't even. The retards are here in Australia too.

Manburpigx · 2016-05-11T13:56:02+00:00

Those kids look like they were paid to take that picture.

drqxx · 2016-05-11T14:18:54+00:00

The lesson here:

Be Careful where you plant your seeds.

Camel_Holocaust · 2016-05-11T14:31:00+00:00

This is so sexist my dick hurts.

derekr999 · 2016-05-11T14:36:29+00:00

let me say this, i love my kid and would die for him. 50/50 wont happen not in ky where i live, they fucking out right fuck me. idk what to do i keep him 3 4 days a week and pay childsupport, and when i mention 50/50 or even full for me. she takes me to court and says im trying to take her child away. i dont get the system.

dimechimes · 2016-05-11T14:39:58+00:00

As a 50/50 dad, I hope to see more of these articles. Not because I give a crap about other people's custody situations. Just so I don't have to hear the whining about "unfair to men".

2016-05-11T14:51:31+00:00

The Daily Mail is written by Cunts for Cunts.

2016-05-11T14:53:55+00:00

Why does the Daily Mail hate Dads so much? They've been against any sort of parental equality for ages. I remember them getting angry at protestors who were advocating this exact thing about 12 years ago.

saul_japancakes · 2016-05-11T15:19:56+00:00

As a father that never misses his payments and only gets to see his son 4 days over night and only two hours on Thursdays this seriously pissed me off.

It's so unfair - women are not overwhelmingly winning in family courts any more

Comments

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

don't get married

The lesson here:

Title	It's so unfair - women are not overwhelmingly winning in family courts any more
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